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The 144,000

Norman McNulty

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Norman McNulty

Neurologist at Southern Tennessee Regional Health System, Lawrenceburg, TN

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  • June 7, 2008
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good morning everyone happy sonnets it is theology here again just the brief reminder of our class works if you have a question or comment ask that you raise your hand so we can get you the microphone we are weak wording this so for the sake of the recording artists that you wait for the microphone if possible and now let's go ahead and open up with a word of her and will get right into it plus Beckenbauer has rewarded for father in heaven we thank you for the Sabbath day we pray that you would be with us as we study Revelation chapter seven and the hundred and forty four thousand give us deeper insight into these things I pray this in Jesus Romans okay was here to see all of you here again were in Revelation chapter seven and if you were here last week we covered Revelation chapter six which is the beginning of the seven seals and Revelation chapter six cases through the first six seals and then the seventh seal is not the revelation chapter eight verse one and we saw that the sequence of the seals chronologically beginning with the six seal year of the great earthquake of the Lisbon earthquake seventeen fifty five near the dark Davis May nineteen seventeen eighty denier must start falling from heaven with eighteen thirty three and then you have the second time and somewhere in between the stars falling in the second sentence of sometime between eighteen thirty three and the second coming of Christ and then on this the seventh seal is open we see at their silence in heaven for half an hour that's about seven and a half literal days so we believe in us during the time of the second coming so image tween the sixth and the seventh you know we have revelation chapter seven and this gives us an idea of why we are still here why the second coming has not taken place and so we are going to get right into Revelation chapter seven and if I could have a volunteer read Revelation chapter seven verses one through three so some greater hand and read Revelation seven one three three the Revelation seven versus one to three in these things and saw four angels can you speak after the microphone is just for the record industry after these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of years when the four winds of the earth that the wind should not low on the earth on the seat one eight three and I saw another angel ascending from the east having the seal of the living God he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea saying do not harm the earth the sea or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their four heads of said first three verses which are threatened thank you for reading my receipt for angels holding the four winds and we see her that article cable than the question is when will the four winds be released when when God 's servants are sealed now based on our understanding of chronology are God 's servants sealed before or after the second coming there sealed before the second time in seven and other words were in between the sixth and the seventh seal and unseal unsealed the servants of God are sealed we are not going to see Jesus come that makes sense so that's where we are right now so we have these four angels holding the four winds die I want to point out something very early writings this is Psalm pages thirty seven and thirty eight Ellen White comments on this passage here she says I saw four angels to have a work to be on the earth and were on their way to accomplish it Jesus was clothed with priestly garments he gazed Infinium the remnant of raised his hands and with the voice of deep pity cried my blood bother my blood my blood my blood then I thought exceeding bright light come from God he sat upon the great white throne and was shat all a plot about Jesus then I saw an angel with a commission from Jesus 's walks swiftly flying to the four angels who had a work to view them here is an waving something up and holding innocent hand and crying with a loud voice hold hold hold hold unsettle the servants of God are sealed and therefore his I asked my company angel the meaning of what I heard in with the four angels were about to view he said to me that it was God that restrained the powers and that he gave his angels charge of the things on the earth that the four angels have power from God of all the four winds and that they were about to let them go but while their hands were loosening the four winds were about to blow the merciful IMGs his gaze on the remnant that were not sealed and he raised his hands to the father and pleaded with him that he is spilled his blood for them so the point of this passage is that over a hundred years ago shortly after eighteen forty four the four angels were touts it on lease or they were about to lease these for when's and Jesus looked at his remnant church and said they're not ready to be sealed yet let's hold all the wins a little bit longer and so here we still are in two thousand eight hundred and sixty four years after eighteen forty four and that passage was nearly fulfilled this message here and in Revelation seven was nearly full so sixty years ago so keep that in mind that though the four winds will not be released until the servants are sealed in the form of Minnesota's first seat 's were going through this chapter we see another angel ascending from the East having the seal of the living God now and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to him and was given to hurt the earth and the sea now notice at some point in Earth 's history you're going to have an angel coming from the East with the seal of the living God and when that happens God 's people are going to be sealed so we haven't as far as we know that point in time has not happened yet but at some point you will have any angel coming from the east having the seal of the living double first of all let's talk about the seal of the living God I think most of you if I ask you okay with the seal of the living I'm pretty sure I know what you would say salami asked you what is our understanding our biblical understanding of the seal of God what is okay here some people saying it's the Sabbath now if someone comes up here off the street and you tell them that the seal of God is the Sabbath how are you in a prevented them from the Bible I may have to get answer that we need to have a solid biblical way to prove that an show from the Bible that yes the Sabbath indeed is the seal of the living God so in the interest of farmers and goats here a couple of verses the firstfruits were to negotiate is a versatile clip out what SCO is in its Roman chapter four verso one and seven year are probably familiar with this idea Romans chapter four thought about Abraham talking about the faith of Abraham and here we have an idea of what seal of God or Eric are how the words you'll is used in scripture Romans chapter four verse eleven if I can have a volunteer read Romans four eleven Rod has her hand up and think your underserved Romans for you and he received a sign of circumcision as seen in the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised that he might be defined as all them that believe though they be not circumcised that righteousness might be imputed unto them also appear thank you Roger now running to get into a breakdown of round-trip for the powerful chapter but what were specifically looking at is the words sealed here in Romans four eleven and is there another word in verse eleven that is the is a synonym or essentially identical to the words seal in Romans for verse eleven the word sign so that the words sign is synonymous with Seo and I encourage you to study Romans four eleven later now is there it anywhere in Scripture that the word sign is connected with the sound so easy to chapter twenty is the verse I was never theirs maybe some other races but for the interest of time are designed to work at this one passages in Ezekiel chapter twenty versus twelve and twenty surviving I will volunteer to read Ezekiel chapter twenty versus twelve and twenty seven raise their hand or all that volunteered Salem writers standard diesel chapter twenty versus twelve and twenty to sixty versus and moreover also I gave them I said that to be a sign between me and them that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them and how will my Sabbath and they shall be a sign between me and you think you may I know that I am the Lord your God okay so what is the sign that we are following God it's the Sabbath furthermore it's a sign that God is the one who sanctifies us so it remember foramen for that seal and sign are used interchangeably and in Revelation chapter seven we have any ascending from the east having the seal of the living God this is presumably after eighteen forty four or the six seal sort of ends as far as we can tell the lasting that we see that we can identify the eighteen thirty three with the falling of the stars but clearly than eighteen forty four happen we see Revelation eleven nineteen you go under the most holy place there's the arc of a testament with a lot of God and of course with a lot of God you have the fourth commandment so after or during the time of the six seal I should say there would be a rediscovery of the sap the Sabbath message and God 's last day remnant church discovered the status message in the Miller writes discovered that an obviously understand that that's can be a major testing issue at the end of time the true worship of God Sabbath versus Sunday now I'm a just throughout one other point member to move along here UMass the question why is the Sabbath the seal of God well in desire of ages Ellen White says in order for men to keep the Sabbath holy they must themselves be holy so in other words if you're partying all week long smoking cigarettes watching dirty TV programs and then you shut the church on Sabbath and thinking think that you're keeping the Sabbath because you're not watching this TV programs that you're looking forward to watching once the sun northbound bus my Sabbath keeping that Saturday keeping and the Sabbath is a sign of a holy relationship between you and God that you have been sanctified and set apart for holy use that's why the Sabbath is the seal of God and Sunday on the other hand as God is man's day that says we can worship God the way we want Bill still saves so that's just the reef on point they're not here's the other thing I want to focus on quickly your notice that this angel is ascending from the East having the seal of the living God for those of you who remember our study on Daniel eleven and I don't have time to do this really day in Daniel eleven forty four and forty five the King of the North hears tidings out of the East and North trouble the money goes with great fury to destroy and hardly make away money that that's hiding 's out of the East is the same as the angel ascending from the east having the seal of the living God this is the loud cry message that calls people out about one of the very end so God servants receive the seal of the living God and therefore did they receive water rain power this infuriates the papacy and serve the servants of God are being sealed and therefore heads while the lot latter rain has been poured out of God 's people melodic cry goes forth so that's just him a quick point you can say that further revelation eighteen in Daniel eleven but I wanted to point that out so the Sabbath is what will CO the servants of God and therefore have been sent based on what I just said about why the Sabbath is the seal of God is the sign of God sanctifying work in our hearts the reason why God 's servants have yet to be sealed and therefore have because God 's Sabbath keeping people collectively don't understand what it means to keep the Sabbath we had we don't have a true concept of what Sabbath is more young people grow up learning that is the day that we can have fun and that's about all they and they can't wait this is over instead of being taught to love and reverence not all week long and that Sabbath is a is the most special day of the week or we can have especially close communion with him and where we don't have to worry about the cares of this life that there is a difference in our mentality how do we view the Sabbath is the day where we can't wait so the Sabbath and so we can watch the playoffs and hope for the Lakers won the finals are something like that or is it a day forward is so an chain with God that we are having a special experience with them so my challenge to asses we have not received the seal of the living God yet because we don't truly understand God in the Sabbath and he created for us now if you remember at the end of Revelation chapter six it talks about the great day of the wrath of the Lamb is come and the question is who shall be able to stand it's a rhetorical question as answered in Revelation chapter seven and the people that are able to stand in the great day of the wrath of the Lamb are those who are sealed and therefore have the servants of God that are sealed and therefore had now sure the servants of God that are sealed and therefore had the revelation chapter seven if you look right after verse three versus four through eight describe the one hundred and forty four thousand now remember where we are in the book of Revelation which had the seven churches in our setting the seven seals and the son of church we have a way to see in church which is the worst church even during the time of judgment and so and we understand that the latest insurance it's fine began in eighteen forty four when the judgment began so then we get to the seven seals we see that during the time of the judgment hundred and forty four thousand will be sealed and therefore had so here we have got the last day church is the worst church but yet during our last pictures which is the worst church out of that comes the hundred and forty four thousand and then you get to the seven trumpets and you have a innovate between the sixth and seventh trumpet we seek is the second habit maven that the message of the second Advent movement that prepares the one hundred and forty four we'll get to that when we get to the seven trumpets such as child should understand the big picture of where we are now I'm not going to take the time to read verses five through eight you can read that on your you have the twelve tribes and there's twelve thousand from each tribe what I will say is this one tribe in particular is missing is the tribe of Dan and if you study out the characteristics of Dan Dan was aback by the elected gossip behind peoples backs and his name means judge and he said that to the point of judging others in an unknown Christian way backbiting gossip and speaking behind peoples backs in a judgment away therefore the tribe of Dan was left out of the one hundred and forty four thousand so remember the characteristics of the one hundred and forty four thousand in their mouth was found no guile and suffer any current one hundred and forty four thousand we better learn how to not gossip about others here on this Earth we don't want to be like the tribe of Dan 's judgment sold backbiting and gossiping and we end up getting left out of God 's last state people who have seal of God therefore the third son of gossiping about someone hated your with zones edited praying for the month that that's a biblical way to approach it so that's now and one other thing I'll say no to search while different tribes and why are there twelve if you tries where I'm at in my study is that each tribe represents a different characteristic of God 's people and what God is saying is what if you look at the twelve sons of Jacob those guys were a mass each one each one of them have their own faulty characteristics you can look at Jacob giving his charged each son right before he died and understand the characteristics of each of the sun now each of the sons had strengths and weaknesses and they were all different from each other and what God is saying is the hundred and forty four thousand are living at a time in Earth 's history which is the weakest and most degenerate of all ages and all generations and I'm going to take large numbers of people from all sorts of different characteristics perhaps twelve different parts a characteristic that can prove that for sure but you may have this type of weakness someone else may have this type of weakness from announcement of another type weakness in there maybe all different types of weaknesses that God has to work with and he says you know what my power is so strong that I can take anybody who has the worst type of weakness possible and I can make them part of a hundred and forty four thousand safe your Aruban I can work with you and make you part of a hundred and forty four thousand if you're sending it I can work with you make it part of the one hundred and forty four thousand the only type of people he's not in it ring into the one hundred and forty four thousand of those who are backbiting to our gossiping and judgmental towards others those people will not make into the hundred and forty four thousand try to keep impractical here that on those are the characteristics as ICS of the one hundred and forty four thousand and if you think about it what God is doing here is is really kind of insane but of course does not say God is saying but I will have the entire group and I'm not here to say whether its literal or symbolic but God can have one hundred and forty four thousand out of the weakest generation of several with so he spends a great controversy on its head and make same a completely unreasonable Satan was a perfect being to send in a perfect environment God will take a hundred and forty four thousand out of a worse environment ever possible make them perfect just like the Mets his challenge to Satan and that's the challenge were part of right now because God sang out of my wants a way to see them people is to become the most perfect group of people that's ever been here on this Earth and Satan saying you wanted that and so that's the struggle is happening right now with commenting here I went to add to and it had detected to get the time again was an admitted and Manasseh was actually added instead it was not Jacob son but he claimed he knew is just designed a weekly Gibson Joseph named Manaus seminary because at which is forgiveness for gave everything that was done to him by his brothers and so God will add the forgiving and loving accepting people rather the fair again thank you registered for the video may not occurred the NASA was added in the replace Van the word Manasseh means forgiving and just to forgive his brothers and so a characteristic of people who will be part of a hundred and forty four thousand are those who have the spirit of forgiveness to others even if you have been wronged and they don't have it spirit of 4G fourth Joseph brothers apparently then that anyone so thank you for that comment now I want and our class today by talking about the great multitude versus the one hundred and forty four thousand is a sort of an interesting area of discussion that some people don't see I die I'm going to share with you some question the spirit of prophecy and also read through the passages on so that hopefully we will come to you I hope a more clear understanding of a few these two groups of people are so what I wanted you right now I want like a volunteer to read verses nine through twelve of Revelation chapter seven never volunteer down here's the relation chapter seven versus nine through twelve this is speaking about the great multitude after this I beheld and low a great multitude which no man could number of all nations and kindreds and people and tongues stood before the throne and before the Lamb clothed with white robes and palms in their hands and cried with a loud voice saying salvation to our God which sit upon the throne and unto the Lamb and all the angels stood round about the throne and about the elders and the four beasts and fell before the throne on their faces and worshiped God saying amen blessing and glory and wisdom and Thanksgiving and honor and power and might be unto our God forever and ever amen thank you so here we have a description of the great multitude now does it say Eric how does it describe the number of this multitude was the passage say here says no man could number now is money asking this question one when the hundred and forty four thousand orders Grimes earlier how how how was the number described so John heard the number of them that were sealed and it was one hundred and forty four thousand now it might take a long time to count a hundred and forty four thousand but if you actually a few years ago the population has changed the population of Ontario California three hundred and forty four thousand other than that doesn't really mean anything that I can't walk the retarder by the sign on mouth like a hundred and sixty thousandth visitor not the hundred and forty four thousand one but the flight I'm trying to make there is is that the city officials of Ontario were actually able to count one hundred or thousand whereas the great multitude is a number that no man could number you see the difference there so John is making a distinction that year he heard the number of them that were sealed and it was a hundred and forty four thousand in number and then he sees the great multitude and it was some number which no man could number to me that that's a contrast so I'll make that point now one thing that I want to point out here you look at this great multitude notice where they come from since they come from all nations kindreds people and songs and then you come down she would group in researching versus one of the elders answered saying underneath what are these which are arrayed in white robes and whence came they so the question is now were talking about this group in verses thirteen through seventeen and John is saying heard of it the elder is saying where did these people come from all if they were the same grip as the great multitude John should I want to come from every nation kindred tribes common people but John doesn't know he's as while you know that he's implying I don't know where they come from and then if you read on down it says in verse fourteen and I sat on to him stir down nicely set underneath these are they which came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb therefore are they before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his Temple and units that it's on the throne shall dwell among them they shall hunger no more neither thirst any more neither shall the sunlight on them nor any heat for the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them and shall lead them in the living fountains of waters and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes up to now here's a group of people who came out of great tribulation so you have in Revelation chapter seven we've heard the number of a hundred and forty four thousand described in the twelve thousand from each tribe and then we have the great multitude which no man could number and they come from every nation kindred tongue and people and then at church John sees the great multitude the elder says hey who's this group over here in John Solana basically and John and the elders of these are they which came out of great tribulation not to read a couple of quotes to you from element why they were going to try to spend some time figuring out how to make sense of this because just to give you a heads up tell him why describes the great multitude and the one hundred and forty four thousand both as having come out of great emulation questions that make them the same I want to go through that particular argument today services an interesting point in my mind let's read about the hundred and forty four thousand and eleven read about the great multitude first this is from pamphlet one oh nine page six is probably a better source amount of the focus on in such pamphlet one oh nine page six she says I'd be held and low a great multitude which no man could number of all nations and kindreds and people and tongues stood before the throne clearly she's quoting Revelation seven verse nine is indisputable that's what she's described the strategy goes on to finish that verse then she said she skips down to verse fourteen and says these are they which came out of much tribulation and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb therefore are they before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his Temple so here at all why do saying the great multitude which no man could number are people who came out of much tribulations she's quoting verse fourteen of Revelation chapter seven now let me then reach you another quote and hopefully this doesn't confuse you good keep them on our own light talk about the great multitude when she talks about the hundred and forty four thousand visits from great controversy Donna Baxter page six forty eight and six forty nine sure she's talking about the one hundred and forty four thousand she says none but the hundred and forty four thousand ten learn that song for it is the sign of their experience and experience which net as no other company have ever had these are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he guess these having been translated from the earth from among the living are counted as the first I got into the want to clearly just talking about one hundred and forty four thousand years is as indisputable and noticed this point next now she's not link the hundred and forty four thousands of those economic great tribulation these are they which came out of great tribulation and she's quoting Revelation seven fourteen but notice the next point that she makes your Savior issues this is great conversely the sister standard expositional mosque they are not so she says yes the hundred and forty four thousand came out of great tribulation and she uses quotation marks to quote Revelation seven fourteen so she's clearly quoting Revelation seven fourteen the notice the great tribulation she describes here they have passed through the time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation they haven't geared the anguish of the time of Jacob 's trouble they have stood without an intercessor through the final outpourings of God 's judgment but they have been delivered for their wash their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb therefore they before the citrine of God and serve him day and night in this cell phone so she goes on to quote verses fourteen through seventeen of Revelation seven now a question as could be possible that the great tribulation of the great multitude comes out of and the great tribulation of the one hundred and forty four thousand go through our different but one has to question and this is not a salvation knowledge about a way out this is just items this for fun the study the Bible and try to dig deeper and see what the Bible says how many of you think that the great tribulation of the great multitude passes through the great tribulation of the hundred and forty four thousand three are the same thing okay so there's some people that think that my font on a sense that they're different how can a number of him now are there to shoot the tribulation under the comment over here when asked this question what you're raising your hand are there shoe such regulation that are described of in Scripture or do we only know of one when you're younger handles and speak to it say other than if or question it seems that it's progressive from the time of trouble that the great multitude go through and the hundred and forty four thousand has a beginning point and ending point until some may not be around at the end but some will be at the end so that is a progressive movement through the time trouble for nothing if I get thoughts on why assignment there is a progression of this time of trouble that's some may not pass through it all the way to the end so maybe martyrs on the baby passed through great tribulation so that's one Patricia Hedger and also went to the microphone on red onion there's a tribulation that Jesus talked about in Matthew twenty four which is talking about the children sixty years because of the context of the stars falling in the dark day and then there is that your relation in Daniel twelve wine exactly how it's talking about the time of trouble between now and when probation closes and when Jesus comes tension between the event and the specific number of the hundred forty four thousand and then then seeing the great multitude John does this over and over again in Revelation but seeming tension between something that hears first he heard the sound of a trumpet in chapter one and then he sees me on a being that is Christ and then in chapter five he hears out the line the tribe of the tribe of Judah has been able to conquer nature and he sees a man here's one thing he sees another hears and forty four thousand turns he sees a great multitude to make number of trigger point now Chris brought up an interesting point here about the sheer tribulations if you look at Matthew twenty four versus twenty one and twenty two Jesus describes a period of great tribulation Jesus says for this should for then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time now nor ever shall be and except those days should be shortened there should no flesh be saved but for the elect 's sake those days shall be shortened and then Daniel twelve you have in verses in verse one dozen at that time shall Michael stand up the great prince which data for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation even in that same time and at that time thy people shall be delivered every one that shall be found written in the book now in Matthew chapter twenty four as Chris pointed out which the period of tribulation we believe is the twelve hundred and sixty years and then the time and trouble in Daniel twelve we believe is after the cause of probation during Jacobs time of trouble now is there a conflict and saying there both the worst ever since the twelfth this is on the way some of the scholars have said this I think it's a good and valid points of the twelve hundred and sixty years was of a piece with a purity of tribulation that was so great because of its duration and so the duration of the twelve sixty makes it worse than anything else but the world will ever see on Jacob 's time of trouble will be the worst ever of tribulation which almost as will be worse than we can even anticipate because of its intensity so you have tribulation duration you have a period of great tribulation of intensity now I don't claim to have all the answers about the great multitude versus the one hundred and forty four thousand the mike flowing is is that during the seven seals you have in the first four seals you have a period of tribulation in which God 's saints are martyred for the word of God and for the testimony which they hold them when you get to the fifth seal in Revelation chapter six verses nine through eleventh you have the same thing how long Lord so you judge and avenge our blood on the earth so these are people who were martyrs for their faith and it would be fair to say that the Christian church in the first century and the and the Christian church that went to the twelve hundred and sixty years endured much tribulation and so then it would make sense that the seven seals in this interlude when you're talking about initially God 's people are martyred for their faith then you get towards the end of the seven seals and while there's a great multitude which no man could number and Ellen White's as these are people who came out a great tribulation they went through that the first century where the pagans martyred the Christians or they went to the twelve hundred and sixty years for the papacy Martin God 's faithful people now I'm not limiting the great multitude just to that time I agree that you can also have people in the great multitude who lived during the little time of trouble between the beginning of a loud cry in the home the death decree for those you do not worship the sun a lot and during that time is to be martyrs for the face and so those people can be part of a great multitude as well so people who die though are not part of the one hundred and forty four thousand hundred and forty four thousand are only those who are translated without seeing death buses national privilege is granted one hundred and forty four thousand one so to say that the great multitude in the one hundred and forty four thousand are exactly the same thing I personally don't see it that way if you want to see it that way were friends in the Psalms salvation was that the great multitude as I see it are those you were martyrs for the faith during the first century in the first seal and then seals two three and four were you have the papacy persecuting God Saints and then they cry out Mephisto how long till you judge and avenge our blood and then you have the promise of the resurrection that they will eventually form a great multitude from every nation kindred taught tribe tongue and people that no man could not number at the end and then you have a hundred and forty four thousand also can come out of great tribulation to go through Jacobs China travel which is a totally different experience the twelve hundred and sixty years so that's my that's where I'm at I could be wrong if you feel otherwise come talk to me at some point that that's one in my study and I encourage all of you keep studying in the main things we want to be part of that one hundred and forty four thousand that's our identity and mission in the time which is to draw you receive the seal of God forsake everyone and we will continue with a seven dryer next week will look for the

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