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Youth, Education, and Agriculture Panel

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  • November 13, 2015
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We're going to find out a little bit about youth and young people in agriculture. How they got started what their interest is what some of the challenges may be where they see themselves going with this. All those kind of good things my name is Ricky Seiler. My wife and I Vivian are blessed to have a couple of young people who are who have a desire and passion to be in agriculture. And so we hear a lot. We talk a lot about these questions ourselves at home. So I'll be interesting in seeing how these other young people are dealing with some of these questions as well. But first let's just power heads and ask the Lord's presence to be here with this. Father we are grateful for life for being able to come together. At this conference and. I just think about. It's need to learn information. But it's also so valuable to meet other people who are on this journey. And we're all it different stages and. We just are now. Blessed to have a group of young people here on the stage with us and we just ask that you be with them as a handle these questions. And that we can always glorify you in those things that we do. We thank you for that is our prayer. All right we're going to start off with just having us get acquainted with them. A little better. All right so we'll start right here on my immediate left if you don't mind sharing with us your name where you are currently where you currently are. Maybe even your age I think that's pretty safe because you're all pretty young I could be OK. I can ask that question. And maybe don't tell us so much right now of. Exactly what you're doing in the agricultural area. But we'll come back to some of that is probably with the questions. My name is Timothy hide. I am twenty one. And I am farming in Fresno California right now. Hi My name is Kendra word I am the senior days are Avon's the cattle and I am seventeen. Hi Amy Smith I'm twenty four. And I'm working at Sunny's on family farms in Arizona. When I was Josh advice here and I'm nineteen and working. Our family farm in Tennessee. And I'm sure. Westbrook's a little family farm in the mountains of New Mexico. My name is Weston Adams. And our family's farm in Tennessee and seventeen. All right thank you so much. And are dissing yourself let's just go right into this first question we have a lot to cover. So I'm not going to ask you to individually answer each question so. Not everybody feels like they need to hop on every question but if you feel so impressed to hop and on one. Feel free to do that please. What is the reason young people get interested in the agricultural lifestyle or farming. Maybe. Today. I would I would like to maybe pose that to. What do you think in your case. I mean some of us maybe were born into it sorta. Yeah. Others of us maybe grew into it. So what was it that got you interested in farming or the agricultural way of life. Currently where you How did that happen. I was not born into agriculture. But I grew up in the country nine joined country living as a kid. And I would say. You know one reason I considered agriculture is because I could never picture myself having an office job. And just the idea of having to sit inside. Every day for work. Terrified me probably. But also for me it was also just having a little bit of experiences with it in the five pool and realizing how rewarding it was to provide healthy. Fresh produce for people and the relationships that were a part of that were really inspiring to really get engaged with agriculture and see the potential How does a ministry tool. And things like that I can identify with that. I think you know I being raised in the country. That was always enjoyed that but then seeing a way to be able to. You know you don't have to grow up and you know. Go away from that lifestyle away to continue a country lifestyle and. Also realizing the importance of then if you into and have a family. There's a lot of merit and raising them. Close to the land as well. And then I guess the other thing would be again. Agreeing with you Timothy's the ministry opportunities. Outreach. It's exciting. I love the diversity of it. I think there's so many different avenues that you can get involved and still be doing farming like you have to do marketing you have to do sales you have to do accounting you have to do. There's so much that even if you're not wanting to just be planting plants in the ground. There's other ways of still being involved with it and doing some of that or having other people help you with that part of it and you can get involved in other aspects I think that's really cool. One thing that I in my own experience. I think part of the reason that I'm so interested in agriculture is that in our family. We don't have a television or video games. And so agriculture which is a great blessing. And so I grew up loving outdoors. And so as we got older agriculture. My. My mom and dad started small garden. And since then it's just been kind of a natural thing to do and it gets more and more fun as I get older and you move. We've moved from the gardening to put in an orchard so you can watch it year to year get bigger and bigger and. So I think that that's been a big key and my life that I didn't grow up with all the other things that would have distracted me. So kind of follow up to that what parts of the agricultural lifestyle. Have you personally found most beneficial for you. What parts of that whole package of lifestyle has. You have you found most yes. Well it's really rewarding in general because you start from the beginning you plant the seeds and everything and then from there you receive the product in which is the harvest and not only for yourself. But as they said it's a really big witnessing opportunity and I'm just personally knows that. Quite recently actually for fundraising for here what we did is we went around the community with boxes of fresh produce and we went door to door offering to sell them and people were super receptive We raised almost twenty five hundred dollars doing that and we only had like a hundred bucks of the produce to sell and. I think that's what's the writing about it is that it's not only the farming that. Like vegetable and nursing aspect of it goes in all the other areas of your life and it also gives you something to do with young people. We kind of always want to be doing something and so if it wasn't for like farming over the summer I think that I mean like. There's a lot of other things that you can get into such like movies and all that kind of stuff. So it's something that really good that you can do when you get rewarded out of that way more than you would with. As far as the most beneficial I guess the question was for my life whatever. I mean just the whole lifestyle is is you know. A blessing. I would say. I've always been very busy always have such to do. I know the devil has me things for idle hands. And so just you know. Always be in this if there's always stuff to do so that. And the lack of artificial entertainment. Just. I made all those kind of encompassed in the lifestyle but you know. Which is. Seemingly the are you able to have any kind of fun being having in the farming lifestyles is there any kind of pleasure or is it just all work work work that sounds like. Well it depends on what you call fun I guess. It is very fun. Yeah. I enjoy it but I want to give us give us a few ideas of what you classify as fun. It doesn't have to just be I'm not just picking on Joshua and anybody here who would what do you think what's actually find about this. Well and one thing we like to do for fun is fruit and vegetable ninja. With a machete. What exactly is fruit and vegetable ninja. It's when you. Number two or worst orange up in the air and try to chop it in house with a machete. Midair. All right very good cause sounds like a video game I guess or you can surprise your co-workers with a bunch of runs made in their base which is also really fun. There's always geared around like doing something with food. Or is there fun outside of that. I mean is it destroying food or throwing food at other people or key repeat the question know. Well the question I had was the follow up question with fun I mean I know there's a lot of work involved in in farming right. There's always more to do but do you ever come to the end of the day and feel like at least where you're at right now like OK I'm done I'm caught up. Really one of my going to do tomorrow. The ever have that feeling. Squarely hot so. I mean how do you balance the idea of working. Having so much to do with having. Time for. Not just work. If that makes sense. I think there's a quote that I found really interesting in my life. And I'm paraphrasing it so might get a really wrong but it says something like the greatest hope of the Gospel is in teaching us to love work and. I think that happens when you do a culture and you have to work. You actually start enjoying it and I don't know if I'm speaking just from my own experience here but people always ask me what I do for fun and I don't have a very long list because. But I have a very fulfilled and enjoyable life. But you end up spending it with family or doing recreation like hiking. And that kind of stuff on the weekends but you also just really enjoy your work because you know you're fulfilling someone's felt need people need to eat well and they know they want to eat well and you feel very fulfilled when you can fill that need at least for me. We're going to have you ever. When you were as you were younger growing up were any of you ever. Punished by having to go out to the to the farm to pull weeds or anything like that. Did you ever see that as a kind of a discipline. Yeah. Yeah. When we were in Florida. Used to live for an hour and to see that happened a few times so that has happened. But now it's now I don't think you'd be a punishment. Interesting how that works because you know I don't know I'm just a little older than you guys. I know you probably picked up on that. But. You know. Well some of us. I don't remember this personally but I've heard stories of. I know of a good friend of mine who's his has experience with gardening growing up was. It was basically required. Discipline and absence. In some ways. When I was just curious to know that if you're saying like you guys have a little different mindset and attitude towards the same type of activity. I wonder how does that happen you think. How does that it does require discipline. But as the required discipline I would necessarily recommend of it how does that happen how did you guys go from not not necessarily you had that personal front end experience but how do you go from doing a similar type of activity with maybe requires discipline that you find this enjoyment or it's kind of that deep satisfaction from it and set of. I gotta go out and do whatever. Pick the ogre or whatever it is. When I was at school. I did have to do weeding for work for a while and. I mean it was required it was expected of me I didn't really have a choice. But I think once you get in the mindset of doing something productive with your time. And the work becomes rewarding. And you see the fruit of your labor. I think. It doesn't become a drug free and. I mean there are ways to make it enjoyable especially deal friends that are doing it with you but I think in time. Even if it starts out as a drudgery. If you learn to appreciate the. The benefits that you are firing from it. I think becomes a joyful. I think it just depends. Basically on your attitude how you go about it and if it's something that you're like OK I'm going to make the most out of this and it becomes enjoyable and. Personally for me I really enjoy because even when I'm like weeding alone it can be like a prayer time for me and so like. Sometime during my school day it's really busy and I don't really have time to just sit down and pray. And so it's a time where I can just get a part. Get a wave Don't worry about I knew my score going to bring that and pray line leading. That's what I enjoy. So I'm just just to from a show of hands here just real quick. Who actually is involved in farming in full full time. This is their full time line. I mean you're out you're technically out of school. You know what to say and your vile involve farm raise your hands up I saw four of you are. This is your. You're committed to this at this point time. So why are you committed to agriculture. Why do you think you got there. How did you get there. What was it that you decided to get. You know. I mean there's the. I know most of you up here and I know a couple of you were born into families that were doing farming. In essence. So to speak and to have you kind of the ones who are doing full time now and to have you weren't trying to figure out how. If you're tell us your the folks there why why are you committed to agriculture. Now. Well I would say. You know how I got there I was born into I guess you'd say. And you know when I was younger I didn't enjoy it as much but it was always enjoyable I guess and. So you know I just I enjoy I really enjoy it now and I don't see a reason to do anything different you know being on the farm growing up on the farms opened. Opportunities for business and. So it's you know. Opportunities open for me to be more involved. And do more and. I enjoy it. You know. I see the blessing in it. So I just don't really see any dipped any reason to do anything else you know to change. I think one of the probably the biggest factors that I keep coming back to is. You know being raised in the country and seeing the agriculture as a way to enable the country lifestyle. And you know you can be. It's a great family. Enterprise it's good for those kind of things and I think over time that is so thin. It was a real attracting factor for me. I think for me some of the deals back to what Amy said about the fact that it's not the same every time. If I was weeding day in day out every day. Trust me I would be looking for another job but there's an ever expanding horizon of possibilities you can develop different crops you can try different systems. You can invent new tools. I mean there's so much potential and. There's never going to be a shortage of the need for it. So that's something that I think inspires me to keep at it. Yeah that is true drop real Could job security. Now here's a here's a question I know a couple of young people in our family have have faced. More than once. How do you answer people. When they ask about your choice of an occupation. And I would like to just expand on that just a little bit. The idea of. You know this is this is a delicate area. We've talked about this internally. Number of times and I think I struggle with this more as a parent. Then. Actually our kids do. But it happens to do with what we call. College education. OK I don't know if you know where I'm going with this. But the idea is that. You know I am a little I'm a generation ahead of you. And one of the things that happens is there's kind of a mindset that you need to go to college. But that's just kind of a basic thing that you need to do. And I was caught up in that. So. The interesting thing that I find is that not always but often times college has a tendency to remove people from the farm. Not to encourage them to be on the farm and. I don't know if anybody else out there can appreciate where I'm coming from. So I'm curious to know you guys are all in an age where some of you may be quote should be in college right now with me. So I'm kind of wondering how have you process yourself through that. And for those who have not maybe are not of college age yet. How do you how do you navigate that have you ever been asked that question. Have you ever been kind of put up against the clock Have you ever felt like you're in a corner like oh I just built a rather somebody not asked me that question of ever. OK. What how do you deal with that. I know I've gotten that a lot actually where people. What my degree is or. If I'm going to school or. And there's definitely a ton of pressure from society to get a college education which I'm not against but I do think that there are a lot of fields that don't necessarily need it and the practical education is in my opinion. A lot more use than an educational degree would be for that same field. So it's been something that. When I was younger especially it was even more looked upon like Babli so sometimes I felt very like put on the spot. But now I found that when people ask what I do and I say have an organic farm. It's surprising what kind of good responses I've been getting at least that the people I meet they're all like wow that's so cool you have an organic farm because they just a lot of people are in society or wanting to go that direction. And as far as. When I got Sept twenty my life when I was the sighting. I don't think my dad's here so I can say this but I felt like a lot of pressure from my family. Not because because they were putting pressure on me but I just felt it because I felt like. I've been in this business I don't want to leave my parents alone. And I felt like I don't want to go to school and. You know but at the same time I I felt very independent and I felt like I don't know what's out there like. I've only been around farming what else is there even a farm for the rest of my life. Maybe I want to do something else so I did go to college for a very brief period of time about a semester. And I decided you know what like I. There are other things out there. But at the end of the day. I love the flexibility. And the ability to do really what you enjoy and just go in whatever direction you want to go like. Like I said earlier that diversity in that. That feeling of freedom to do what you want to do versus being stuck in an office or stuck doing some. There that. Like there's really I don't. I mean there are few curious but there's very few careers that you can have as much flexibility. As you can with having your own business and and doing like farming. And of course that comes with responsibility and there's a lot of other stuff that come along with it but I think it's through writing. I mean I believe. College is a means of getting an education for your future life work but if nothing else the only way to learn and. For me after high school I was doing some college classes. But I really wasn't sure what I wanted to take. And with farming there really aren't that many prerequisites. I mean if you can work hard you can focus on what you're supposed to do. You can pretty much. Do anything with agriculture. So for me it was just kind of wanting to see if I could enjoy doing agriculture. And because I didn't have to do any prerequisites I just said OK I'm going to college on hold and I haven't seen the need to pick it back up. I mean in the future. I've had an interest in getting in to green business. After working out Sunny Zona I really was interested in entomology. But at this stage I'm my life. I'm happy to just be working sting out of that and any more experience. You know I think sometimes these different society it's looked at as school or education means you come out with a degree a piece of paper and all OK you're all right. But education is important in many facets you still have to have an education to farm well. It just may not look like what people have come to expect to see still have to get the tools and I think. You don't have to be embarrassed about that. You know. To farm well you still have to be quite knowledgeable and educated and you know. There is anything wrong with you need to bolster your marketing skills or whatever you know. Take a college class and get the tools you need. I think so. So just. I'm going to have to interject a personal comment here. So your grandmother is trying to get ahold of me. My mom. So would you be kind enough to she's trying to get to the camp and I think she's lost so I'm going to have my daughter to see if you get a whole OK. You know you guys talked about the flexibility and all the different dynamics. You know. My son and daughter have a small farm I help with from time to time and. I can't imagine many things as challenging as being a farmer. This comes from a person who has no background in agriculture. You know Anyway I was just thinking. There's a lot there's a lot of unique challenges. And all the different things that go along with it so it's an amazing. Yeah. It's there's not a lot of time for boredom and. It's very challenging and I think that's a really really intriguing and attractive thing about that. Asked the question. Please. So for those of you who have not finished high school. Are you planning to go straight to college or. What is your. Your goal was. I don't know yet but I don't know yet either that's the short answer. I know that there are some parts of college you can take from home. So. I have no one person is doing that. So we'll just we'll see what the Lord takes me. But that's something that I've kept in the back of my mind. So just a curiosity just to get the audience participation here just for a moment. Just by showing of your hands if you don't mind. How many of you here. Let's say over the age. Let's just say thirty. OK if you're over the age of thirty. How many of you were raised on agricultural farm. Lifestyle. OK. That's how you raise OK. How many of you were not. Pretty amazing the difference. How many of you in this room actually. At least had a four degree. College education. Raise your hand. OK. Keep your hands up just for a second of those hands that were raised. How many of you were raised in a farming agricultural lifestyle. Not many. So you know the curiosity would be if I was a young person. You know maybe you can check out some of those people out there as well. Why are they here now. What's gone on with that. And maybe some of the decisions that they've made. Because you know it's kind of a challenge I think out there for some of us for young people and. I mean you have to be pretty settled if this is where the direction you're wanting to go. Because that question's going to come up a lot. It's just going to come up a lot at least in this spirit so here's a neat follow up question of that. I thought as a young person faced or focused on agriculture do you consider your education complete imbalance thirty you feel the need for more formal schooling. You can sort of answer that but I wonder. Tell us where you are out on that I mean I got a kind of got a sense of that a minute ago but I mean we have a. We have a kind of unique group up here because some of your full time into farming and some of you are not there yet and you're not even sure if that's maybe the direction you want to go which is OK. So go ahead you're. I think you know. You got of. You've got to keep learning. Throughout life. And. Just like coming to this conference we all came here to learn. So you know that's not ever complete. As for continuing education. The the niche we're in we do a lot of online sales. So to bolster billeted to market online or whatever. I could see benefit in going and getting more training in that area or marketing or things like that so yeah I could see that. I would agree I mean I don't plan to stop learning but at this point I see myself getting more formal schooling in the near future. You know and one actually has a quote about that and she says that if you're doing hard manual labor and you're enjoying it and actually make your mind grow. And so I think that God will use whatever he wants to make it went very well and maybe perhaps our understanding of education. Right. Because when we think about education what generally do we think we think about what institutions Yeah. We think about classroom type education and. It's amazing the way people can learn now. Very good so what do you sense is the biggest challenge you see in your future. And working. If you decide to stay. Kind of in agriculture and for those who aren't in full time. If you decide to go that way. What do you think. Going to be possibly some of your biggest challenges or your biggest challenge. How many of you are married anybody or married. Now. Anybody here. So if you're not married. Good chance you don't have any kids. OK. I mean it's not always easy question to ask. I mean what do you think what happens when two people who farm Do they ever think about getting married. I mean you see think Jeff. What do you think. Looking down the road a little bit what do you see is a challenge what do you think might be one of your biggest challenges a few Does side to stay in the agricultural lifestyle. Well as a girl. Probably a big challenges is what your husband going to do. Because that has a big the deciding factor on what you can end up doing. Unless you narrow it down and say he has to be a farmer well. Not that many farmers out there are avenues. And that live close to other farms. So that can be. Definitely can be a challenge. As far as that goes. I think as far as farming goes. Probably for me something that I find challenging. Is keeping changing. It's easy I think any business in order to succeed how do you keep changing and growing because our world around us is changing and growing. But that's really frustrating because it's nice to just do one thing and make that work and then be able to do that for years to come. But that doesn't succeed you have to every year be thinking about what's new in Bahrain around you and. Coming up with better processes. The market changes so much. The prices that you get can change drastically from year to year so keeping up with that. I find to be an interesting challenge it's not a bad challenge is just a challenge. One challenge that I would say I've given you three months off he was starting my own farm. And the challenge of finding land. Fortunately my dad has a desire to do something with me at some point. So the the land. Dilemma becomes a little bit more manageable. But of the family on a big step. When I reach the point. Definitely is. Farmers starting out that's a big thing to figure out how do you how do you get a start you know you're starting from zero and. It's it's a big investment. And I think some of the other upcoming challenges might also involve the. The farming environment you know it's getting so hard to keep. Just simple things like pure seed. And that's going to affect a lot. And the next. Many years ago and ahead. I think as well. And how do you. How do you get the money to to start up a farm. If you are coming from a background where you've already been having another job for years and years and years. If you just start now at starting out with farming where do you. What do you start out with anybody to see that is maybe been a challenge. I hope somebody has a good answer to that question. I mean all those that you presented I think are very valid challenges. I think that particular one has to be one on the top. I'm not sure if there's there's the theories out there but I'm not sure if we if we really have great answers. I wonder why we have a lot of questions here. Great question. But those are all those are all very good questions. So I'd like to ask what to take just a second here and we're going to think about ministry within agriculture and. Does anybody here have a story or a situation that you felt like was that shows a nice example of kind of the dynamic of the ministry aspect. I mean we've talked a lot about a lot of the great benefits for you personally. How how has your involvement with agriculture affected other people and a positive way. Maybe beyond just given him good food. Anybody have any experience like that yet. I know you're all pretty young but when you think. Well I'll tell you what our experience is where we are we're in a kind of a unique situation. We live in Tennessee. And it's pretty rural where we live. And so the area we live in there are a lot of people who are living the lifestyle that. Basically this conference or this conference is promoting. And so there are lots of not evidence but Christian. Folks who have these values and. So when we are doing the agriculture. It gives us. It gives us. I guess you'd say. Some credibility. Because they use their as they share the same values they're trying to do it. They're basically trying to follow. What Mrs White says but they are following date. Not Mrs White They're not following what Mrs Weiss says. But they're basically doing the same thing. They have the same values even though they are learning that. What she says. So that's been a unique situation for us in our community. I found that. There's so many ministry opportunities. I think like even with for us we have employees so it's been interesting to see the changes that they've started to make in their life and some of them have come at least to know God and accept him even if they're not all the way avenues to get the. There were should be on top of that kind of thing. So I think that's been really rewarding to see in people that you work with every day. And then. We've also with our like C.F.A. type program. We do something that we call a farm day and. Most of our clients are because we live way out in the country. They live an hour and a half to thirty hours from us. So it's all ways to drive. And we decided we came up with this concept we're going to have a farm day where everyone can come up to the farm work on the farm Get a GOOD have the good meal and. So we decided to advertise it. And my dad said if we get thirty people to come eat my shirt. And we're like OK. And none of us thought we get that many. And like two hundred people leaders. Registered to come out to our farm. To experience farm life. These people came out to our farm and. It was interesting to see their responses after they left they start. Email start coming in and of how they're like it's like your house is like a Little House On The Prairie and there's just something different about it that. So it's not about and this is word for word what they're saying like. You know it makes us not have to worry about our cars and. What kind of house we have like you have a different lifestyle that this is so much more meaningful and was showing them something better I think that they really resonated with and. It was kind of funny because they're all coming out and like their legs this is B.M.W. is all these spent cars they have like four five flat tires. By the time he got through our card so it was even with all those challenges everyone's responses were just so positive. And it's something we've been doing. Every year and had to have gotten tough really great for. Friends out of it and people that respect you. In more aspects because you're here giving them their food in the. They respect that and expect that you obviously have some sort of knowledge. So they respect your opinions when it comes to other aspects of life as well. And we have with that we also do cooking schools. And we say it as it's part of our farm like. We advertise it from the farm. Perspective instead of from a church. And even though our church is very involved with it. And so we've had really good response from that as well because people are willing to come when it's from a farm they don't feel that threat means of it's it's church related. And we've had people come to church. After the cooking schools because obviously we incorporate evangelism in with it. So it's awesome. How that taste that that your dad how did you enjoy the sure. We never could convince him to actually eat it. I thought he might have made it out of Kaylor some of them to think of it. And I was there. One of the farm days in Arizona. And the excitement people had when they came to the farm was just incredible to me like at the end they're doing on the car they're like are you one of the farmers and they're just like jumping up and down and it's like I'm just a farmer. No they were thrilled to be there and. I mean obviously like any sense the influence you how in those people because they're you know. Invested in your project and they feel like they have a relationship with you. I would write notes on their boxes after that. Just some people you know I enjoyed seeing them at the farm day and. It's the small ways that you develop relationships with them. That just so you how much potential. You can house. To minister to them. But the other thing I would share is the ministry. Opportunities that I had when I was that good news farmer Michigan and working with the students. Many of those students came from the inner city. Environment. So for me growing up on a farm. I do believe relate to some the things they were going through the first time being on the farm and. Just to see their their change in perspective there. The beginning of the molding of their character as they learn to work. They learn discipline. But some of the students that gave me the most trouble of getting in the summer. Became the most reliable and predictable students and. It just it just really inspired me because only only something God ordained to do that. Yes go ahead. I just have to add with the good news Farve it's its was so interesting to see these students I remember this one. This one fellow. That was relatively young and had no experience whatsoever. Like when it comes to any sort of labor. So just completely green and. He's working on this role and having such a hard time just sitting down all the time when can't can't do it my mom comes along it is like I think a fly buzzing to my ear. And my mom was like really. Well he's probably just buzzing around in your head now. And he totally believed her like. There's just no practical understanding he was like freak it out it's like the. Really it's OK it's out of the U.K. and the practical Missy students learn that any career you go into in life. They would learn. The simplest things and how to actually work and I think that was really rewarding. I think what these guys are saying. The relationship aspect. I guess truly for us humans often the way to the heart is through the stomach. And just there's something special about the connection the trust that's built in this aspect. Just one little. Quick example we have found this little. The game. Ties food restaurant in a town about three hours away. And we've started going there and we interact with them and they're all Buddhist and very very sweet people and. So we've started taking some of our garlic into him and they love that. Anyway. And the connection. The way the. The waitress should just come and visit with us for like. You know ten fifteen minutes just you know. After she takes her order and whatnot. Because she feels a connection. And those kind of doors are really exciting to see opened. So let's follow it up with this question water good ways that you. Young people find to involve other young people in agriculture. Maybe young people who have not grown up. You know. Around that time. Experience. I mean I know Timothy you're out of school. And you know schools I mean you guys have young people built them. Right but I mean are there ways. How do you find that to that experience so far. The school has been at and getting young people and volved and. How do you bring someone or encourage someone to have maybe more of a desire of this if they don't really have a working knowledge or. They have a desire for it. Or do you how does it work. Obviously not work. I think the the big picture that is provided an event with the farm where people of the community come out and the students. Being able to see. The role it plays in the community and. How big of a how big of a deal it is to those customers. I think that really inspires the young people that you know. Maybe this is actually something I could do. And you know. It actually is valuable and. I think another thing is just being a positive influence and. As a young person is going to be other young people looking at me and seen. Wait. I mean he's having fun with that he's able to work hard. I can do that too and. Yeah. Concur with to be safe to say that a pretty requirement to actually be accepted into Daystar Academy is that you have to love agriculture. Know that that's actually when the use of the thing about the fly flying the sunset I thought of a story there was this one kid who came in he was really cool guy out every day he's working on the tomatoes and he had a print and some of this made of that had mosaic disease and. So we were like You gotta be really careful and wash your hands afterwards because you can get the disease and he was like freaking out and we really like totally kidding or like no like not going to happen to you or another but no. I but I think something that really gets them involved is. We've been starting to take some of them to our farmers market with us. Like every week we'll take one or two. And that really just like brings them into like the full picture like. They get to also like to talk to the people that are buying it and we have since we're in Moab Utah we have a lot of like tourists that come inside. And so we just have this huge I mean we're missing the people that come from like England in like everywhere just anywhere you can imagine. Honestly. And these people. People like to know what's happening with their food and so we can honestly tell them we're like. I mean a lot of times we'll have picked that food that morning will be like yeah we think this is morning like and they're like bull that's so cool. And so that will also open doors open source to see you can start talking to them and you can just start. I mean you can slip in like a god blesses or leaving or whatever and. People are really receptive when you put it in that environment I guess. And. But anyway is that I think that's something that really helps the students get excited about it because it's not just the pulling the weeds or it's like you're giving it to other people. Josh. Yeah. Please go ahead and I know you guys have like a revolving door over at your house kind of with young people coming through things like and what. What do you see and what do you sense happening as far as yeah well with us. Mainly people that we're encouraging are people that are ready. Have an interest in like ask if they can come. And you know we have the pressure program for six months. But then we also just try and try and keep the door open for people that want you know want to come for a week or. Couple weeks. And we do have quite a few quite a few people that will come. We've got a young man that's been with us for the last week. He's here. From a lot of you know he's been a Wildwood. And he came down to spend some time on the farm. And so you know we're just trying to keep keep it open and let people come if they're interested in learning. Have they have you have you have any of you actually ever associated with another young person who's not actually involved in agriculture. How to how does that work. How does that work. We both speak the same language. So usually works pretty well. I mean you know. You know where I'm coming from with that question is there like common ground with other people. Yeah I mean how do you how do you as a as someone who's kind of in this lifestyle pattern. How do you relate to other young people who who you know just choose a different path or do you find that they have a tendency to maybe fluence you in a way more than you may be influenced them or you not even is influencing not really part of it you're just how does that work do you find yourself being a little more distant. Perhaps. Almost like I'm sure about the previous question to you. You know how do you engage young people. I think in our society we become so detached from the land from agriculture. That really there's a fascination. And a novelty to it. And so I think just getting young people out on the farm whatever that takes. Really will open their eyes to see wait this is something new and exciting. And another thing I thought of is truly the only thing that can make people really happy in life is useful service and. Just like if you go on a mission trip. You become inspired to serve. We become and fired to do that again. With agriculture and seeing that it's really something that benefits of the people. Once you get catch the vision I think you can really inspire you to continue in that path. And one more thing on the same question I'm going back to the question about how do you incorporate other people in actually with this example it's kids. When we have extra plants. EXTRA STARTS. Will often give them away. There's a family that has a bunch of kids that we there one of one of our friends. And so we'll give them like lettuce plants is fall. And it's fun I mean we'll just give him fifty plants and the platter of it it's so fun to watch the kids. Enjoy the plants and watch them grow and. Whenever we go over there I want to show us how they were doing and how the plants are doing and. So that's one way we just give away our action plan. So we only have time for just a couple more questions. So here's one kind of maybe should have been ask earlier but from your perspective what would you say to a family with young children. Who are contemplating getting more into an agricultural way of life or farming live from your personal experience what would you say that. Mom and Dad Maybe you are just sitting out here there. You know. Twenty eight years old or thirty two years old they have a one year old and a three year old and they're thinking about this. HOW THE been for you. I mean you've kind of shed a little on that but maybe you could go ahead Josh. I would say that it's been a big boss thing. Just the the lifestyle you learn how to work and learn how you know you learned BASIC. And it doesn't mean that you will be doing agriculture all your life. I mean you know our family. Jonathan is got a business going. It's still involved in agriculture but he's not you know. Involved on the farm. But it's still you know. He's to be able to go off and start a business and. You just learn a lot of practical common and. You know. By living and growing up in the country. And you know. Even more so she's got a working farm but even just being in the country. You know. Being out and just learning from the sure. It's a big bus and. I think from. Growing up most of the years I can remember at least in the country if even if we weren't necessarily farming. I would encourage that it's a beautiful opportunity I think it's the strongest foundation you can give the young family. Men So if you can find any possible way to do that. Despite all the hurdles to get a small piece of land and do that. That's that's a great opportunity. I think that at the end of the day we'll have to eat right so I think it's important to make sure that that like you're really set up to take that step. Farming is a challenge. It's a lot of hard work. And it's a lot of trust in God and. I don't know how many times this has happened in their own farm over the years. Where it was getting close to meeting the payroll and there was just no way we were going to meet that payroll and there was. We had maxed out everything that we could try to do to to make that payroll and the end of the day if can't make the payroll. And we weren't taking checks were we were at a point that our business of going to fail if. If we didn't make the payroll because our employees will quit and our crops it all go to waste and. Obviously we had a larger farm. So this was a big deal for us and. This one experience that I remember of course we're just praying. So hard and. And you feel like is God forsaken you because you know he says he's going to supply your needs and you don't see it. And where is this becomes a day that we that we need to write these checks and there's just no way we're going to make this happen. And we get a check in the mail from someone who we had paid double like two or three years before. And it was like for some shipment of product that we were getting in and his exact amount to cover that payroll for that day. And that's happened time and time again with us not exactly was some check coming in the mail but. But where we shouldn't make it and somehow it comes through and God pulls through. But it takes such trust and if you don't say. I'm putting all on the line here. And I'm willing to be pushed to my limits. Then it's not for you because I think I lose I've seen with other people that I've talked to that are season farmers you have those experiences that are just so challenging. And it's a great experience to test your faith but sometimes it's really testing. Very true that's just part of the. Nation. I would have to agree because from everything down to the weather you know you're there and you know if you. If you get rain. It's going to keep you out of the field for another week. And you know and then you're going to miss your window and. And you know. It doesn't start to sleet and rain and I'll the last little little distance you're planting or or what not so great opportunity to build faith and in the little ones as well and. I guess that doesn't necessarily mean you go outside of human reason you always want to try to be as responsible as possible and you know starting out you may have to have something that helps you support your farming. Habit. But it is a lot for duty for for for the faiths. Growing and I would encourage to. Not not delegate the meeting as a discipline and really to enjoy it as a family. Because if you're going out and you're moving into the country. I think the three going to receive the most benefits if it becomes a family project. So our speaker last night. John Quaid we were you here. To to hear. So he talked about his job here. John you hear this morning. I don't seem OK. So he mentioned that he was a sells meant at one time did you catch that he was trying to sell. So we're we're wrapping things up. We have moving towards our next. Breakout session. So I'd like to give you guys. You know thirty to forty five seconds to to you know. Sell us on why you are so committed to agriculture at this point in time. And I'd love to hear from everybody. And I mean if you know. If you're in school and you haven't made that commitment so obviously you're up here on stage and there's something about it but what is it about agriculture that just kind of draws you towards that. Well it's. It's really rewarding to see the full circle of your produce to go from seed to song or to person then you know. Tuesday night after our market we know that there's hundreds of families in the show that eating our produce here suffer. And it's just it's rewarding. Good. Well. If I could just summon up on one word I think going to say it's really real. Like I don't. I don't know how to necessarily expand on that but just you feel like you're really living when you're doing is just like you're connected to. You know your true that your communion like you know exactly where it came from and you're connected to all the people that you're working with so. Like so much closer than he would be and like any other job you know. And I know this is at the end of the day you feel like you really lived. I think just because of all the options it's like having you know. A fresh plot of ground you can do all kinds of stuff with it in less opportunities are really can be really exciting. I think our world is so disconnected. And I know this is like to sing whatever one is already been saying but it is so connecting to be on a farm and connect with real people on a weekly basis. And be supplying their needs and. And then connecting at the family. Because you're all able to work together. All our meals as a kid growing up or even as a family we didn't have my dad off at work and. Just my mom and us kids. At the house alone together it was all of us. And the evening for spent together and. And that created this bond. That is just amazing you can't get that any other way and. Yeah. I think that that's a really fulfilling. Part of it. And for me. I mean of course I'm not out of high school in tenth grade. So for me personally. I love it so I I especially like the perennials. That's that's my special thing I enjoy. But it's something I love I find great fulfillment in it but it's also not only the agriculture. The lifestyle. There are other things in the lifestyle the agricultural lifestyle. My brother does. He does call for change. You know like they used to do it a long time ago so he can make stuff out of a piece of rebar that you never know it came from rebar. So the whole lifestyle as. What I want to. I would say when the most convincing ways to be convicted on agriculture is to you to look at the Council and. I know a few books have been written and. I have been able to hear most of the content of David's book. And just to use to understand the perspective of how foundational of learning experience that is and how valuable it is to develop the character and to strengthen God's people. I think that really just convicts. To the importance of it. So anybody here appreciative for the young people who participate. This morning blessing. So we're going to just have a brief word of prayer. And then I have a to the short announcement. So if you would and John's I think I have one as well so let's power has a prayer. Father we thank you for. Just the cycle of life and. We know that this earth that's kind of how things work. We look forward to your soon return. But until then board we just ask that we can be faithful. Faithful to you. Faithful to being good stewards of the things that you've provided us. This soil that we are made of and yet. It helps give us life. And we thank you. Most importantly for your surgery. This media was brought to you by audio person a Web site dedicated to spreading God's word through free. Sermon audio. And much more. If you would like to know more about audio version or you would like to listen to more sermon. Leave visit. W W W dot. Audio person dot.

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