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  • November 11, 2015
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We're going to talk about what to grow and how to grow it and. Are you on or OK. And this is the one that I said I don't have pictures and my daughter is embarrassed about that but it's not her fault. So I think you know you know what is to made a Looks like you know what. What a lot of these things we're going to talk about so. The pictures would make it pretty but I don't think it will take away from the present patients that. You don't have them. So again I apologize. Let's just say. We can't have too much prayer here so let's just pray for God to be with us or it is we go into this next section we just ask for your your guidance your wisdom. Give me again the right words to say and may it be to your honor and glory in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. I'm going to give you a little heads up here that. Next year the conference is going to be the end of January. And no no it will be two thousand and seventeen. OK so it's going to be a little bit more space between. But and the reason I tell you that now is just because we have been you know for farmers. They're still kind of wrapping up their summer. At this time of year. And then with my son. Doing his first winter C.S.A. we've been very involved with that. So we've been running full speed. The last. Well. Pretty much since purring. So. I had wanted him to help me with this treason patient but he got in the snoring. Driving all night. Because he had C.S.A. delivery yesterday I think I mentioned that so anyway. We were. I wanted this to be more family. But we do have Kiersten presenting later on my dear wife present. And again. I wish it was different but we're doing the best we can. So let's let's try to get practical here and you're getting a couple handouts. That. It's with things that we grow. And again we're in middle Tennessee. We're almost at thirty six degrees latitude. We're in. You know the zone. Thing is all. I think a little up in the air because of climate change and all of that we're getting the politics here but I say we're in zone six be OK. Some. Some people divide it into a and be sown six B. we get temperatures down in the single digits in the winter time and occasionally on an occasional year it gets below zero. A lot of weather in the teens at night. Very little snow. Which is kind of unusual We get lots of cold weather but very little snow. So anyway that. Just to give you an idea of where we are. And so our recommendations for varieties and timing. Obviously is our recommendations and that's going to vary a whole lot depending on where you are in the country. But it's a starting point and then if you get other starting point. Eliot Coleman is in Maine. And he gives recommendations for timing and varieties and. J.M. is in Canada's southern Canada. He gives recommendations so the more you glean from others. The more you can say OK well he planted this date and I'm planning at this state in Tennessee so if I'm in Indiana. You know you've got a stick can help you not start from zero. You know you're learning from others. Yes. Question. That's a good point. And for whatever reason. And I should just kind of restate that for the audio. But he was asking if there's any any people growing. Further south from us that would give starting points. Unfortunately I can't think of anybody for whatever reason the most of the writers seem to be from more up north and I think there are reasons for that. This south southeast is kind of rough. Because of the heat and humidity those two combined. Make gardening. More challenging than a drier climate. Yes. How do our times. Correlate with what we see in the newspaper well. My short answer is I don't look at the newspaper so high I don't know. Yeah. And we're going to have to save questions were try to make sure at least in the final session that there's time for questions. But in order to get through things we're going to have to plunge ahead. So write your questions down and even if we can't do it in the seminar. We'll do our best. Once I get through tomorrow morning. I'm through presenting. So I can relax and. Look me up. And I'll be happy to try to answer your questions. OK. So today is crazy. If we can get through today and then I have one present Taishan in the morning. OK. What to grow and again. You know these are guidelines. It may vary somewhat. But these are pretty much tried in. Our one of your biggest sellers and. And I'm talking about cherry tomatoes I'm talking about. When I say regular I mean. Large tomatoes. Slicing tomatoes hybrids and heirlooms and. Again I don't want to I'm not going to get into hybrids versus heirlooms and stuff because I trust that you know the difference at this point and. I just want to say. You know hybrids have kind of gotten a bad name and hybrids are not necessarily the ideal because it's. It's not easy to save the seed and we know is that going is we've got the inside scoop that at some point we're not going to be able to buy seeds. So that's a very good argument for growing heirlooms. But when you're doing a market garden. There's a balance there because heirlooms don't always have the consistency. And the yields that you have to rely on if you're if you've got a C.S.A. and you need this many heads of broccoli. I tell you I haven't found a good heirloom broccoli. That's one thing. You'll find very few heirloom broccolis and. There's reasons for that. So we use a hybrid broccoli. And we don't. We don't feel guilty about that because there's nothing evil about hybrids. Now G.M.O. is a whole different issue. Were we won't go there. But yeah. So. So there's that balance you know that someday you're not going to be able to buy seeds so you want to have one hand in the heirlooms. But if you're doing it for a living. You gotta have some some assurance that when you plant it it's going to to produce for you. So we do some of both of most things and especially tomatoes you know some people love. Heirlooms and there's no question that some of the heirlooms are very good. To Cumbers big money maker we struggled with Q cumbers. The last few years. But we sell whatever we can produce peppers are certainly not on the same level as tomatoes and cucumbers peppers. You know people. People buy peppers and they bring a good price. Let us. Such a big one. Tomatoes and lettuce you know if you're only going to grow two things grow tomatoes and lettuce and not just lettuce. But other salad greens if you can make what some people call a mask when you mix that kind of thing that's very popular. Something that they can buy in a bag. And basically just. Straight out of the bag. Now you don't want to Kurds. Because legally. There's some issues there. You need to just kind of tell him. We're not claiming this is ready to eat. Straight out the back. But most people do. Carrots big. You know we can. We can sell carrots and winter carrots are unbelievable. So tasty. When the weather turns cold. The starches turn to sugars and winter carrots are like candy. Our customers children. Come. Well I mean we could tell you lots of stories but I remember one the child came home crying because somebody had stolen her care. It's because they're so good they're fighting over carrots at lunch. I mean isn't that amazing. Praise God. I mean it's not don't praise God that they're fighting. But if they're going to fight over something rather be care than candy. Be this one has kind of surprised us. Because a lot of people don't like beats but there's enough people who do like beets and like real beat. You know that we can sell a lot of beats in the spring time. And I mean you know basically you're selling for a dollar a beat. It's unbelievable. That's why I don't market because I'm a barrister. To sell this stuff for these prices. You know of for our family. You'd pay ten dollars to buy beads for a meal you know. But we don't charge that much more than the grocery store you know it's food is expensive. You're cooking greens Kayla's the big one. That's become really kind of cool in the last however many years ten years. Wish chard. There's a good market for that those are the two big ones. But depending on where you live. You know you kind of got to feel out your market and what the locals like in that kind of thing. You know collard greens we grow some collards. For whatever reason collards don't have the status of kale Kalends cool you know. Collards. I like collards better. Personally. But. So you have to get a feel for that. And this is a big one fruit. If if you can grow any kind of fruit. People love it. You know in our boxes we try as much as possible through the summer. You know we start with strawberries we do a lot of strawberries. They always have. Strawberries in their box. And you know they open the box. And it may have ten other things. Beautiful things but man oh strawberries. Oh I can't wait. You know and then blueberries later and we have some black berries. Fruits cells. And that's going to be something that a lot of people who are just getting into growing you know if they're doing home gardens or whatever they may not have that. You know because blueberries take years to establish So any kind of fruit and. We're not even into tree free. I'm a little embarrassed about that but growing tree fruit in the southeast. Organically. Most people would tell use impossible. I can't tell you because I haven't done it yet but the reason I haven't done it is because I only have so much time and it's kind of an iffy thing. You'll notice all the organic fruits you buy in the store comes from the north west. Maybe a little bit from Michigan and up there but there's very good reasons for that. But berries. The small fruits. We can grow. Not always easily. But we can do that so I would really encourage you to look into that. OK so we're just going to get I'm going to mention some specifics in some of these are not on your hand out. Because these were some standouts from this year. It course every year is different and. Because it was a standout this year doesn't mean it will be a standout next year but be orange. The ones with the asterisk are the. The ones that were really hits with the should be orange was a greenhouse hybrid tomato. That did very well and we got very good reviews from our customers on. It's obviously an orange tomato seeds. Most expensive. Seed I buy. It's over a dollar per see. And you know you're thinking Whoa. That's a lot. Which it is. But you know you pay for that with one tomato. So you've got to look at it that way it's an investment that quickly pays. Even at a dollar is cheap compared to to what you can potentially make of it. Big Dina is a red one that did well for us. Tommy Maru move shoe. Funny name it's a Japanese one. Actually that one didn't do so well for us this year but last year it was a standout. And people were asking for it by name this year. You know in our area there's a Bradley. It seems to be a very local localized favorite. And in our taste tests are informal taste test the Tommy Maru move shoe rank higher than the Bradley. Marg old was a new one. We did this year. And this is an interesting dilemma. These are from Johnny's seed. And there's lots of free Johnny's catalogs over in the exhibit area make sure you get one if you don't have one. That's education in itself there's a lot of good growing information in the Johnnies catalog. But this year Johnny's started selling. Hybrids that look and taste like heirlooms which sounds great you know you've got the disease resistance and vigor of a hybrid with the taste of an heirloom. But we've got to market and we had this dilemma. You know everybody thinks they're heirlooms but they're not. And you know we've got to deal with our consciences here and. So it was kind of a disaster for as this year because we didn't know how to. You know they look like heirlooms they taste like heirlooms but they're hybrids. You know we charge more for our heirlooms. So it really was mixed up. And we weren't sure how to deal with it. Hairbrush. That's interesting. Yeah. So we're still we haven't figured out how to deal with that but this is a beautiful tomato. Similar to stripe a German if any of you know your heirlooms yellow where. You know there's hundreds. And we don't even try to grow a mall but Cherokee perp was one that has stood the test of time that's a Tennessee hybrid we like to. I mean heirloom. We like to get local heirlooms if we can all tell you so cause Minot Volkov. In my mind is the best tasting tomato I've ever had and there are others who who agree with me on that. It's not one you see everywhere. But I don't think Johnnie's has it I think I'm owning has it. We get a lot of our seeds from high Mo ing. And that's on your resource less. Amazing. You know I don't have refined tastes. So that's another good reason I'm not good at the market you know people come. What's the difference between this tomato and this one. Well. This one tastes like it to me to and this friend to me you know I'm I just I'm not analyzing things as I eat them. But a lot of these foodies as they're called you know they're into all these subtle nuances and. Well you know is this one more acidic than this and. And you know. So I'm not good at answering those but I say that just to say that cause we're not vul Cobb is one of the few tomatoes that. When I eat a good when it's like wow this is amazing. This is really good. Bradley I mention. Technically it's not an heirloom because it hasn't been around for however many years. But it's been around for quite a few years and that's one it's very hard to find seed for that's Tennessee. It's open pollinated so I classify it as an heirloom. But people ask for Bradleys and roses another pink one. There's something about pink ones that have more of. Well I think people call them less acidic. But actually I read something recently that kind of refuted that whole see you know more acidic or less acidic thing. The yellow ones. Again tend to be yeah. Less. I think you know again I'm kind of going by what other people say but their how would I describe it more mild Is that a way to say. Cherry tomatoes. You know cherry tomatoes The downside is it's very labor intensive to pick them. But man you can sell him you put him in a pint container. Honey what do we sell cherry tomatoes for four dollars a pint. It's worth picking especially if you've got the labour force. We Alison was our cherry tomato girl that was her hoop house. This summer and she kept us supplied in cherry tomatoes and they did very we actually made almost as much on our cherry tomatoes as we did our other tomatoes. Jasper is a red one that does very well. Sun Peach was a new one this year. Manage it took over the greenhouse. I mean that those plants just. I mean cherry tomatoes. As you probably know tend to be more vigorous. Then regular tomatoes and Sun peach. Was. I mean it just grew gangbusters and it's a very nice tasting to made and when you say the best. Do you think taste wise was that your favorite taste wise. Yeah. She was just saying. It had good taste and texture and then a lot of or a lot of the others. The down too much to say. One downside to greenhouse growing growing is that again in our hot humid summers. You can get. We have a challenge with with what's called a leaf mould. And so we're now looking for varieties that have leaf mould resistant. And son peach. And I think Jasper as well. Both have lead for mold resistance. And they Man they really go to town. Saved from them. You. The those top three are hybrid sun gold. I think you probably you all are familiar with that one. If you aren't that's kind of the gold standard. No pun intended but the gold standard for cherry tomatoes. It's amazing. It has a downside that it cracked very easy so you got to really be careful with your watering and stuff. But those top three Sun Gold Jasper's sun peach and golden sweet are hybrids Black Cherry and white jury are heirlooms. So you can save the seed on those. Just a few tips. We really like growing in the hoop house for early and late crops. So I guess that we planned our tomatoes in the hoop house. You know we get them. Big probably about. So big you know a foot tall. In our greenhouse with the he you know we start the seed the end of January. We plant them in our who pass the middle of March. That's in an unheated house. Our last frost date. Average last frost date is middle of April so that's a month before. The average Frost they last for us. We have gotten. Temperatures down to seventeen degrees with. You know after we planted. The tomatoes and. Double cover. Triple cover with row cover over hoops inside there and we've we've brought our tomatoes through. So with a row cover. And who pals structure. You can plant them. A month before your last frost. And then again like I said. Next year we're going to do something different. We're going to have an early. Greenhouse crop of tomatoes. And then a late greenhouse crop of tomatoes. And then middle crop outside. Because usually in our summers. They do OK outside if you get a lot of rain they have problems outside and that's why we grow inside or one of the reasons. Because it keeps the rain off of them. Course we roll up the sides open the and try to get as much. Ventilation in there IS possible. We put a shade cloth on the we trust the slicing tomatoes and there's a lot of information out there on the Internet on this we can't get into it all here. But use a string you sucker the tomatoes and you run him up the string. And then you lower and lean them. You know what I'm talking about I'm trying to see if this is a Greek to you or you know what I'm talking about very labor intensive. But clearly it's worth it because that's how all the professional growers do it. But what we discovered was in the heat of the summer our greenhouse tomatoes tend to shut down. So we're spending all this labor trellis thing and lowering and leaning and they're not producing anything. Now they start back up again as the temperatures begin to cool off. So it just hit me this year wait a minute this isn't smart. Let's let's get that early crop. Just take suckers. Off your tomatoes and you stick them in a ground. You've got a baby I'm for a little bit hell they root. Don't leave them in direct sun. But you've got your your late crop right there pull out those old ones and replant the new ones. And then. It's much easier to take care of them and their small. You know the lowering and leaning is what takes time. So we're going to do that next year. Cherry tomatoes are two brand she to try to least in my opinion to try to soccer them and challenge them. So we do stay can we. You know what I'm talking about post. Every five feet. Two or three plants in between are for plants. We do our plants actually pretty intensive a foot apart. In the row. And then you put those stakes and then you use string and weave it back and forth and you're basically just holding the plants in. And every week or two. Allison can demonstrate she spent her summer. Staking and we are cherry tomatoes very common that's what they do in commercial growing outside that's basically all they do. So there's plenty of information available on that. Oh yeah. Here I did say. Propagate late crops with suckers. That saves on seeds. You know. Use white plastic tarps between the rows. That doesn't number of things. And this. This was our first year to do this and I would recommend it. Number one it holds the soil moisture in keeps the plant more evenly more use. Number two Of course it keeps the weeds down. And for something that's been there for many months. The longer it's in there the more chance the weeds have to take overs. So anything you can do for your long crops to keep we'd stand on. And then the third thing it does is reflect light. Back up on to the plants. So that's a positive thing. Two Cumbers just soccer and trial as you know a lot of people just grow cucumbers on the ground outside and you can do that but. But the refined cue Cumbers the. What they call English cue Cumbers with a thin skin. They do much better if you trust them soccer in chalice you just get and I hope you know what I mean by soccer and show us. Usually we just challenge them up to a cable about so tall. And then you let a sucker grow and let him trail back down and again I think both. Elliott and J.M. get into this. So just read their books. Succession plan. Every four to six weeks depending on your climate in everything. You know we. The Q Courbet family is our biggest challenge because we have to cumber Beatles we have squash bugs we have squash vine bores. Plus all kinds of diseases shoes. In our climate. So the best way we know to get around it is to keep planting. We grow them in the house. Yeah. Socrates's is a winner for us. They like a rich well watered soil to Cumbers really. They will repay you for the effort you put into the soil. Peppers for the first year we tried. Growing greenhouse. Peppers and suckering Inshallah singing analysts abyss was our pepper girl. Bit more challenging than tomatoes. Lot less straightforward. But I mean the information is out there on how to do it. And we had some challenges early in the season with our peppers. But man they really start producing some of you may have seen some at the registration booth. The peppers really come into their own in the fall. Our other two peppers our favorites are actually the. We not the bells but the. Some people call him banana peppers or Bulls horn peppers and particularly these two varieties Carmen and Iran knows Carmen is a red. And Iran of has an orange amazing. Prolific like you wouldn't believe. And amazing taste and then this year we also grew. Johnny's lunch box peppers. We only trial them we had a few plants but wow. You know they're the Little Peppers that you put in a pint and. Just as a snack. Amazing amazing. We're going to grow a lot more I think we can sell those like we sell or cherry tomatoes. Lettuce and salad greens just one little tip. Pelleted seed for transplanting. You know if you're growing your transplant. Will beat up your planting tremendously. Let us see it is a little hard to deal with. When it's quotes naked. But if you pelletised it. Man you can plant really fast. So that's just a little tip. Pelletised seed. Doesn't keep as long as non pelletised So you want don't want to buy three years were. They recommend you use it all in the year. But the sixth row cedar. Some people were looking at this earlier. So it's six rows you plant that one time. But you go down one side of the bed and back the other. So it's twelve rows in a thirty inch wide bed. If you use that combined with the quick cut greens Harvester the. My son. You can see it in the damage. Exhibit area. You can grow a lot of baby lettuce and like I say that's one thing that really sells. No no for four well you could use pelletised in the six roast cedar. It has different sized holes. You can adjust it. But pelletised seed is more expensive than a good seat and you use a whole lot. When you're growing salad mix. So you would not want to use pelletised seed for that character. We are known for our winter care which again you have to just for your climate but we plant in August actually like the third week in August. But don't wait till the very end of August. At least in our climate is too late. The challenge will fall planting is you have very little margin for error. If you miss your window you missed. Tell next fall in the spring. You know if you don't get it planted this week you can plant the next week. But that doesn't work in the fall. And so you really got to be on the ball with your timing. You plant carrots. Beginning of September. And they're never going to size. A week. Difference It's amazing what it makes in the fall. Bolero from Johnnie's is our standard winter care if we keep them in the ground. All the way through the winter. If it's going to get down in the teens we throw row cover over it but they're in cold storage in the ground. And they care are carrots Christmas time are the best gift you can give somebody. And for spring. Plant February March. You know even. I'm going to try. In the who pals. Planting some. When I get back from here to over winter and it's hard to have carrots in April. So I'm going to try to get carrots in April or Nelson. Are good varieties for that you can get more for them if you bunch them with the tops on. But it's more labor intensive. So you've got a way that out. But again if you're trying to earn as much as possible. And they're always pretty year with the tops on them. Now the key to carrots is having We three bed to plant them in do any of you have we free beds. Wow. We've got somebody. Nodding your head back there. Praise God. And I know when she says we are free that means not overwhelming amounts of read because it's. It's impossible. I think to have we free beds but if you're diligent. With the cultivation you can lessen your we over time. But stale seed beds you all know what a stale seed bed is no OK we need to basically you just prepare your bed. Ahead of time. A week or two ahead of time. And pretend you've planted it you water it. You let the weeds Germany. And you can then very lightly cultivate it. So you get all those newly germinated we without bringing up new we. Because they're all down in there and you may think they're not. But they can stay in the soil for years and years. So by shallow cultivation you. You will Limon a bringing all you know that's one problem one downside to rototiller. Because you're constantly bringing up a new flush of weeds. But with a broad fork and just surface cultivation. You can. You can the limb in a those in the top injured to over a few years. So you understand what I'm saying prepare the bed water it. Cultivate it. Do that again if you have time. You know if you do that a couple times you know wait a week. Let the weeds germinate and get them when they're this small. Then you will plant. Into a seed bed where eighty percent of your we need are already germinated. Now if you want to go the next step. You get a flame weed or and. Steve Meyer who is here. Teaching the gardening one hundred one. He's the premier authority on flame weaving in the country he sells the flame weed years to. To me it's pretty exciting that Adventists are taking back the the lead in market gardening. Because both the Greens Harvester which the Lord helped my son develop. And the flame weed or are manufactured by had been is and there are two of J M's. Top tools. He wrote an article for guard. Growing for market magazine and. Those were his must have tools which has made my son's business. Very successful. So flame waiting is basically again you prepare your bed. It's just a little bit more complicated and Steve Meyer can give you all the details on it. Basically you. You actually flame it after you've seeded it. Most we'd still germinate before carrots. But that's where it gets a little dicey if you're off on your timing. You might flame your carrots. Which would be tragic. So you can forward that but it's very effective. Beat. Merlin and read a certain kind of our standard. OK When did we start here what time was it. Ten fifty so we were supposed to quit at eleven forty five K.. Thank you yeah. Merlin read a red beat. Touchstone golds. I should have put a asterisk by that when we really like touchstone gold. It's a golden beat. It's very mild flavored just really does well. Beautiful be. Now one thing we do. And actually a J.M. does it as well is we transplant our beats. When we just so. Beats in the garden. Something about beets. They just disappear. You know you'll see em start to come up. And every day there's a few less. And I don't know if it's in the sex or disease. I don't know what it is. But we usually get a very spotty stand unless you. Seed really heavy. And then you have to deal with maybe you get too many and then you've got a thin. And I'll tell you what if you're growing for a living you can spend your time fending beets and carrots. That's too labor. If you're on your knees. I love to weed on my knees but it's not profitable. I love weeding. But you you want to stay standing up as much as possible. Just because like I say it's not profitable to be on your well. It's very profitable to be on your knees if you're praying. But. So we transplant we put. If it's a new fresh seed we'll put two seeds in. We use oil blocks and. You should know. If you don't that there inch and a half soil blocks. That beat seeds. As well as swiss chard. I can't remember the technical term but they're often. Multiple seeds in one seed. So you plant one B. C. and it may produce three or four plants. So what we're wanting is for plant in each block. And you put them you plant them a little further apart. And the beauty of that is it's less transplanting. Plus it's easier cultivation. She put him six inches in the row three rows in the bed. You know for are if you're planting individually. You want one be like every three or four inches. And that gets very hard to cultivate. But six inches you can cultivate between. First of August. This is a trick with beats in the fall. If you plant some past the first of August. And again this is for our area. They will not produce a good sized beat the seed or all. That is seeding. That is seeding first of August. Swiss chard the cooking Greens we. Bright lights. Is does very well and it's very beautiful. It's multi-colored So you know colour. People like the colour in that kind of thing kale last an auto seems to be most people's favorite kind it's also called dinosaur tail or. Nero details canno kale there's a lot of different names for it. Winter bore. Now this is a perfect. Take time to just tell you that. Kale seed has been in a shortage. For the last two growing seasons. Your classic roughly kale. I guess they grow most of it in Europe. This is a lot of it is hybrid. And for whatever reasons. I guess the demand is high. And they had low supply they had some bad seasons. You cannot buy this kind of hopefully this next year you can. But that's just an example of why it's good to have your own seed source. Russian I and. There's read Russian There's white russian there's Siberian were. We like Russians. Right. Lily is from Russia. But they do well and they're actually a different species. Bronson rapists. Rob this. And the others are anyway I don't remember old. But they actually tend to read grow more through the winter than some of the others. First of February middle of July. Small fruits. We talked about those we grow our strawberries as an annual. There are a lot of reasons for that and I actually would encourage you to do it that way. We grow it on plastic and. You can we plant in the fall. And that works any where in the south and they do it actually all the way up to mid us. If you go further north you do more of the matted row style. I'm going to talk a little bit more about this in a session tomorrow. I can get a little bit more detail but on it. Blueberries raspberries Black Berries. As I said they're going to draw people who are harvesting tips. Nothing. You know. You're always worried. You're going to have enough and then you end up having too much. Key with harvesting is getting things out of the sun as cool as quickly as possible. And so you want to start early in the day before the field he is in the plants. One thing in the lean farm book that he really emphasizes is doing all you can without putting it down. You know. You might think it's more efficient to just harvest everything. And then to bunch it in a separate step. He says no you harvest it. You know clean it up. Many times you go take off a few dead leaves. You have your rubber bands right here you've counted them out. So you know I need twenty bunches. You've got twenty rubber bands you. You bunch him. As you harvest them. And all you have to do then is Bram off and you're done. So little things like that can help you all know about diaper hell. I hope. BT. You know a lot of people ask me what do you do about worms and cabbage man it's a simple solution. Di pill. It's available at your farmer's co-op. It's organic. It's a bacteria that the worms. Eat. And they die and the beauty is it's very specific. You know you're not killing your beneficial insects. So it's a simple solution. BT is what they have genetically engineer it into corn. But that's a whole different story. You know that takes a good thing and makes it into a bad thing. But very effective on bras because now there's something else called and trust. It uses another bacteria called spin a set. Very expensive. But incredibly effective not just on Bronson because for cabbage worms but potatoes for Colorado potato beetle. Larva. It won't kill the adults but if you've garden at all you know about Colorado potato beetles the larva can do a lot of damage. We grew a lot of potatoes this spring and you know you just monitor you have to walk in when you start seeing the larva had shout. We did one spray I couldn't believe it. This stuff is like four hundred dollars for a bottle. But you use a very little you know we didn't even use half a bottle this year. It was so I had I told my son. And another Apprentice. I need you to spray the. The potatoes. I went out there the next day and I could not find a potato be larvae anywhere. It was amazing. And then I finally got to the last row and all of a sudden on the very last row. I found these potato be larva is so I said to them. What happened. Did you. Did you spray the last row. Well actually we kind of ran out on the last row. So it was like night and day difference. So if you can bite the bullet and get the stuff and make sure you keep the cap on the bottle don't let your kids Tippit over. It's very good S.W. D. spotted wing drifts off a law. Major challenge to small fruit growers. Mexican being beetles. I don't have a simple solution for those. You can use something like hygienically fire ants I haven't done this yet but intrust disposed to work on fire and the directions are on the bottle. It's all organic it's very insect specific So again that's what you're looking for you don't want something that's going to kill everything because. That's not a good. Wrote covers for fully Beatles. We use big eggplant. You know if you've tried to grow eggplant the flea beetles will eat it. If it's small. So we just grow. Transplants like this and they can out. Outgrow the sleep beetles succession plan squash a fibs are the simplest thing to fix. If you have a fit that's because you put too much nitrogen on or. You are not watering. Enough. You make sure those plants never come under water stress. And don't over for allies with nitrogen and. I can almost guarantee you won't have a foods. High Gannicus something we use as a last resort that's more a broad spectrum. Insecticide it's technically organic. But it. It will kill a lot of beneficials So you know I said make sure bees are not present. You know. And you should know. Usually the bees are there certain times of the day when the flowers are opening. And just focus on building soil. I think this is our lead. We're almost done here. We ting tips I've darty talked about the stale sea bed that's our number one attack now is just try to prepare the beds ahead of time that takes some work but. If you have I'm prepared ahead of time. You can get most of the weeds before you ever plant. Get jewel cultivation this is something I want to emphasize. If you wait to cultivate tell you have time you're never going to do it right because you're just running crazy. But you know it's like OK Monday mornings we're going to cultivate. Now obviously if it's raining you've gotta be flexible but if you don't have it in the schedule it gets overlooked and tell there are two big you want to get them. Ideally before you can even see them. You just stir the soil with. This is one of my favorite tools. Colinear ho. It's Eliot Coleman designed it. Stand like this you don't have to lean over. You're not chopping or anything. You're just stirring the soil. And there's a great. Short video on Johnny's website of Elliot Coleman demonstrating this. He's super fast with it. But if your soil's loose and the weeds are small. You can cultivate a bed very quickly and never have. We problem. So I highly recommend. This is a tool that is designed for a very specific purpose. If you start trying to do this with it every year we break a few. But it's only because they're not used properly because you can buy a new new head. But I've never broken one in twenty years of using it. So flame weaving we talked about. I've gotta talk about tarping this is. We went to J.M.S. farm. Up in Canada. I guess it's been three falls ago. And that was the best thing I took away from visiting him. Is the tarts. Sila just tart. And again I don't want to be promoting my son here but anybody else but my son has a farmer's friend business and he has silenced tarps here you can go home with one. They're not readily available if you just look on the Internet and they're kind of expensive to ship and so on but it's just a heavy duty plastic. They use it to cover stylish piles in big farming. It's black on one side white on the other you put the white side. Side down and you just cover your ground with it. So the way we use it is at least the main way we use it. You know we do a big spring. Crop that's our main push in the spring. But oftentimes at least the last two years come June we get a lot of rain and. And that's also when all your grass is. Germinating and grass is the worst we need to deal with. So often times and we're just running wild in June you know gine to keep ahead of everything. Oftentimes. At least the last two years the combination of the rain and the time. The grass. Gets away from us and. So when we finish harvesting our our spring stuff. We just cover it cover all those weeds with the tart. Now ideally if they're big you would we'd eat or flail mold that you can get a foil mower for the B.C.S. chop it up. Because it will break down quicker. Just cover it with that tarp and leave it for a month. And it's amazing. You come back in a month. So this is now time when we're starting to prepare for fall. You know. We pull the tarp. The soil is moist and loose and ready to plant. It's incredible. It's. It's the closest thing to an easy solution on the farm the chill fuck. You know there are no easy solutions. It's hard work but you just cover it. And the worms and stuff will come up and take all the detritus down in you know all those surface stuff. And you're left with this seed bed ready to plant it also will help with eliminate sure we'd because it will. It's more ice than warm under there. That's perfect for germinating weeds. They germinate they can't grow because there's no light. So you're lessening your we'd see banks. So I can't recommend. Highly enough. Again. It's a little bit of a pain you know you've got to move around these big tarps and. But man it's made a huge difference in our gardens. Since we started using tarps. Because the last thing you want to do is being cultivating that you're not growing anything on that makes no sense. You know you get your spring stuff out it's too late to be planting most of your summer stuff you could plant some green beans or something but you're just trying to keep the soil ready for your fault plantings. So I know I'm going over but I just want to emphasize that. And this is just a couple. You know I'm just racking my brain trying to think of practical tips I can give you. You know you can buy. Wooden. I don't like plastic plant labels because then they end up all over the place. You can buy wooden plant labels from Johnny's thirty dollars for a thousand or you can go to Hobby Lobby and buy a box of a thousand. Craft stick. Just popsicle sticks. For three ninety five. You know they're not perfect they can sometimes be a little rough. But hey it's worth it and then. You know we just strawman the garden it's organic matter the breakdown of insulin. So just the simple tips to save some money. You want to use a sharpie you want to good permanent marker. That won't bleed and disappear. That's really frustrating when you mark everything up and when it goes to planting you can't read the tags. We like to get big transplants for tomatoes peppers eggplant cucumbers. Because that's just that much more. You know we've got that much more jump on the season. OK. That's it for now. Thank you for hanging with me. Good I apologize exist so much to talk about. But even if you can take home a few tips and if you get your hands on some of these books. It's a best thing you can do. So I'm happy to take a few questions I know it's about lunch is lunch. Lunches at twelve thirty. I don't know how it works with video we can we can go a little longer. I want to answer your questions but you probably have places to go there's. Yes. OK. The question is on mulch. Mulch is a wonderful thing. But when you're talking about a market garden scale you're talking about a whole lot of mulch. So the question is Where do you get it all. And then there's a few other downsides to mulch of course the positive side is it's just putting organic matter in the soil. The other downside is once you mulch. You can no longer. Mechanically cultivate. So that means your only option is hand we doing so and less you can put it on thick enough. And then there are a few other downside if you live in the southeast where the climate is wet. You can actually see. Get a lot of rotten stuff where that mulch is touching the stems. So I'm not at all against mulch and on a small home garden scale. I think it's probably more practical on a market gardening scale. I haven't been a now are blueberries and stuff we mulch with wood chips. But in the garden. We haven't been able to figure out how to make it work. Yes. Question here. Very good question that I can briefly address and I think maybe. Kiersten and Nick. My address a little more question was on pricing of produce How do you set your prices. Ideally. In an ideal world you. You would do like you first said where you figure out the cost of production and add on you know. Whatever percentage you need to actually make it work and charge that much. You know depending on what it is and depending on where your market is you may not be able to do that. So basically our pricing is. Is based pretty much on farmer's market prices. Now you go to producers only and this will be more in the marketing but you don't want to just go to a peddler's market where you've got people from south Texas bringing up their produce and selling it really cheap. But if you go to a producers only market where everybody who's there is a producer. And you look at the prices there is kind of an understood thing that you're not going to undercut everybody else too much that's just not cool. You know that's that's not nice. And so that's kind of way but we don't mind being on the high end of the. You know there's something to be said for being the highest priced. Because people think it's better. And you know of course we think ours is better because ours has prayed over and labored over but. Does that kind of answer. Don't even try to compete with Wal-Mart that's not your competition. If people want Wal-Mart prices they can go to Wal Mart. So don't even other grocery stores. If you're a little more. Hey you're fresh or you. They. They know who grew it. They can ask you questions you invite him out to the farm. OK here's my expert. You have something to saying. No here I thought he was going to share his wisdom with. OK. Yes. Nother question. OK how do you how do you plant carrots so you don't have to thin him you need to proceed to either the sixth row seeders a precisions cedar a cedar I think is actually over. Most of you probably know about Earth's way seeders They're pretty cheap. And they do. Bigger seeds Well carrots. So well the little seeds. They're not so good at the hoss. Cedar. I haven't yet. Used it personally I hope to get one I have a farmer friend who really. Rates it high. It's not as expensive as some of these other Cedars. And it seems to be very well made I've looked at him. My friend brought one out to the farm to show me he was so excited about it. So yeah you need a cedar that is going to again. None of them are going to be perfect and you don't even try to get him. Perfect but you want him somewhat thin and. You know do we use pelleted seed for carrots. We have use pelleted seed the last few years. For carrots carrots kind of have a funny shape. OK. Well I'm going to I'm going to deflect. Well let me just say we sell to consumers that's our main goal but they will talk more about that in the marketing session. So I'm going to hold off on that. I'm happy to stay but I want you all to feel free to go if you need to go and if you need to cut off the video that's fine too. We'll just. This will be off the cuff then I can be really honest. OK We've got a good question from. Is it too late to plant Blair a carrot. Yes. For for winter carrots it's too late. You could plant them now. And if you can get them up. Dell will survive through the winter and they may produce something that's still an area I'm experimented with but good question. Good question. August is when you want to plant them. Where do you find strawberry plants for sale in the fall. Well you can come to Beneful blessings farm we sell strawberry plants in the fall. But you're in Arkansas there's a lot of growers in Arkansas. Do fall planting. Are you in Arkansas or oak. I know it's close to Arkansas. Yeah. You're just going to have to do I can't give you a name there. But a lot of them come out of North Carolina North Carolina is the big. They kind of pioneered this. It's called the plastic culture method you do it on plastic. For fall planting soul. The industry is largely centered in North Carolina. Question here. Do we have liability insurance. Yes we do. We have a farm policy. Through Farm Bureau it's not hard to get some basic liability. Now if you want to start doing more wholesaling. You know like Whole Foods and that kind of thing you've got to have like a two million dollar liability policy. Now I'm not a lawyer and I you know. I try to stay away from that. I will tell you. Are we off the camera. OK. So you know I don't want to be irresponsible. But I've been told by more than one person that. If you're a little guy. You know lawyers. Look at your pockets and. Are they going to show you. You know what are they going to get out of it. So I'm in again I'm not saying you don't need insurance but I'm just saying. If you stay small and kind of under the radar so to speak. I think you can avoid a lot of the burdens that our government and our our the to just society is putting on us. You know. Are I tell you what if any of our C.S.A. customers ever sued us. I would be very very surprised. I mean it could happen every year you have some new ones and some don't fit. You have to have a certain kind of person first T.S.A. And so some come and go and that's OK. But you know our core group of see is say you know we've had some of customers that. Been a sister C.S.A. for fifteen years. They're not going to sue us. Yeah. Wow so many good question how late in the summer do we grow kale and cooking green. Yeah. Basically the end of June. We could go further in our area we have Harlech can beetles and those all seem to show up usually around the end of June. And there are harder ones a deal with organically so that's kind of. They signal the end of the. Kale season. And so we pull it out. And then we're planting in July seeding for fall. But yeah we don't. We don't try to stay carrots you know you can theoretically grow carriage through the summer we don't try because in our mind they're not good enough. You know they they don't taste good. So again. Kind of the end of June is the end of spring for us. It actually correlates with the official end of spring. But we don't try to push. Spring stuff. This year the Harley can be a was relate coming. And we actually went in to July a week or two. But that's unusual. OK we one here and one here and then we'll call it quits. Yes we replant every fall. And again it's. It's. No we buy new plants. Well we buy. Tips runner tips you know how the strawberries run or we buy the unrooted tips and we root them ourselves. And that's what we buy another house to sell a bunch. And then that pays for our plants every fall. So we're getting plants for free. Every year basically there's a lot of reasons for that like I say. Tomorrow in the small fruits. Be able to go into it a little more. But bottom line is you don't have time to take care of those strawberries all summer long. 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