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4. Worst Decision Ever: Why God Permits Evil?

Andy Im

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Andy Im

Associate Director for the Dept of Public Campus Ministries in the Michigan Conference. Director of the Institute of Adventist Apologetics for C.A.M.P.U.S. 

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  • December 31, 2015
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This message was presented at the Jew I see twenty fifteen come from an old chosen for other resources like this visit us online at W W W G Y C web company father. We've been wrestling with many topics. Some challenging ones and we thank you for the Word of God that reveals to us. Your character who you really are and also your your providence. And your treatment of human beings and love. And in a way that is in accordance with your character we think you Lord be with us in this meeting we pray that your Holy Spirit would be your Peacher that. I would step down that. That you would come up and. We ask all this in the name of Jesus. Amen. All right we're going talk about the problem of evil. And will will go into right into it. Here you have some of the some pictures some imagery of how evil is manifested. From war. We have terrorism that we've never seen before. We have the Syrian refugee crisis going on people being displaced. You have pictures here of the Holocaust and want to talk a little bit about the Holocaust. How many of you have read about the book by Elie Weisel called Night. And if you read that book before. There's a couple passage is that are very striking in their book how many of you when you read that book found it to be a very gripping book. I mean it's it's very sobering book you don't walk away after reading that book with a smile. Right. It's very very sobering. And it brings one to just really. To pause and to reflect on evil in ways that. Perhaps you never have before. And this book. I don't necessarily recommend that you read it. But I read it. Some years ago actually many years ago. And as I was preparing this. I remembered reading some of his words that describe. I evolved. And he was face to face with evil in the extermination of the Jews. And some of the imagery some of the pictures here. I want to read an excerpt from his book. Notice what he says he says babies. Yes I did see this children thrown into the flames. How is it possible that men women and children were being burned. And the world. Kept silent. I felt anger rising within me. Why should I same to fire his name. The Almighty the turn all and terrible master of the universe. Chose to be silent in other words. When the the trustees were taking place where was God goes on to say Never shall I forget those flames. That Consumed. My face for ever. But now. And then he reached a point later on the book as he's describing his experience comes to a point where he says but now I no longer pleaded for anything. I was no longer able to lament. On the contrary. I felt very strong. I was the accuser. God. The accused. I no longer accepted God's silence. As I swallowed my ration of soup. I turned that act into a symbol of rebellion. Of protest against God. One one. Bible thinker has has thought of these things and the east as this he says we are not told or not in any way that satisfies our puzzle of questioning how and why there is radical evil within God's wonderful beautiful and essentially good creation. One day I think we shall find out. But I believe we are incapable of understanding it at the moment. In the same way that a baby in the womb. Would lack the categories. To think about the outside world. This is the modern author. Bible writers have also struggled with this question of evil. Job. States in chapter twenty four verses one through twelve why are not times of judgment kept by the Almighty. Another way to say that is why is there no justice. With God and why do those who know him. Never see his days the wicked sees flocks and pasture them. They drive away the Donkey of the father less. They take the widow's ox. And then is describing the poor they go about naked without clothing their hungry they tread the wine presses. But suffer thirst. From out of the city the dying grown so that their Here's a picture of of the wicked their successful things are going all so well for them and on the other hand those poor the poor the innocent without clothing. Suffering. And from out of the city the dying grown. And the soul the wounded cries for help. And yet God. Charges. No one with wrong. So he's be holding the injustice. That's taking place in the world. And he's asking God reportedly he is charging No one with wrong God where is your justice. Faithful ministry of journal amended have lamented in NX questioning a silent God. In the midst of atrocity that the hands of the wicked. How many of you have read the book a song. It's you find it. Rampant throughout the book of Psalms where or where God where the psalmist and David is is is is asking and pleading with God. Why do the wicked seem to be so prosperous. And yet the faithful suffer. So often works. Skip ahead here. Before we go any further I want to divide. Evil into two categories or evil is often. Divided into two categories just so that we're aware of this. The first is natural evil. And so natural evil. Would include like tornadoes and earthquakes and tidal waves and floods. Disease. Deformity. Birth defects. Cancer and strokes. Right. This is what we would call natural evil. And then you have moral evil. Individuals who intentionally kill others with with guns or with bomb. And with it also it can include allies and theft and so on that's what we call. Moral evil and I want to say just a couple things in regards to natural evil before we move on people often ask the question where was God. When natural disasters take place. And we need to bear in mind that most of the world's. Evil is a result of human sin and depravity. Natural disasters or and. And also we need to keep in mind the natural disasters or not necessarily the direct result of God's judgments upon people more wicked than you. So often times when you see. Natural disasters take place for example in this country. You have a lot of church leaders and spiritual leaders saying was because of this or. It's because they're racist or it's because they promote homosexuality. I'm not denying that those judgments are not taking place. And it's one thing to say that God isn't acting judgement. But it's another thing to say on our high in holy horses. We're we're not getting those condemnations because we're righteous. And you're not. And so we need to make sure and keep and bear in mind and not to be job. Friends the equivalent of job friends. Don't play God in casting your own moral judgment on victims of natural disasters. I do appreciate. Appreciate the General Conference world church leader. And when natural disasters. Have taken place has always shared Hey let's let's pray for these people. Let's help these people. And this should be our attitude. And our mindset as we see. Natural disasters take place. So let's go to the problem of evil and. I'm going to admit I don't have all the answers to all these questions. But this is a least an introduction or a beginning to responding to the problem of evil. And I'm going to respond to two questions. Firstly or number one why. Evil exists in the first place set another way. Why is evil happening. Why does evil exist in the first place in the second question we're we're going to ask or address is what is God. Doing about it what is God. Doing about it so number one why evil exists in the first place I want to start with a passage from the book. Great controversy. Dealing with the existence of evil. And she put it very very well she says too many minds. The origin of sin and the reason for its existence are a source of great perplexity. I don't think you would be in here. If it wasn't some sorts. Of perplexity to you. They see the work of evil with its terrible result of woe. And thus Aleisha and they question. How all of this can exist under the sovereignty of one who is infinite in wisdom and power. And in love. Here is a mystery of which they find no explanation. And in their unserved in T.N. doubt. They are blinded to truths. Plainly revealed in God's Word and essential to salvation. There are those who were there in queries. Concerning the existence of sin and Devore to search it to that which God has never revealed. Hence they find no solution. Of their difficulties and such as are actuated by a disposition to doubt. And Cavil seize upon this as an excuse for rejecting the words of Holy Scriptures. Yet. Enough may be understood. Concerning both the origin and the final disposition. Or the final settlement of sin. To make fully manifest a justice and the benevolence of God in all his dealings with evil. Nothing is more plainly taught in Scripture. Than that God was in no wise responsible for the entrance of sin. That there was no arbitrary withdrawal of divine grace. No deficiency in the divine. Government. That gave OK Giron for the uprising of rebellion. So with that said. We're going to delve right into it. Epicurus a Greek philosopher. In the third century so a long time ago. Put polls the the issue this way. He said Hey. Either God wants to abolish evil and can't worry can. But he doesn't want to. If you want to but cannot. That would make him. Impotent. If you can but the chooses not to that that would make him wicked. If God can abolish evil. In other words if he truly is input Potente. And God really wants to do it. The question is why is there. Evolved in the world. That a pretty good question. That's pretty good question and it's a good question it's a reasonable question. But the responses is actually a very very simple one. And it goes something like this. There was a morally sufficient justification. For permitting evil. There was a morally sufficient justification for permitting evil. It's possible. God could only bring about certain positive. Realities. By permitting evil. OK Let me repeat that it's possible that God could only bring about certain positive realities. By permitting evil. So the question then we must ask is What is that sufficient justification that moral morally sufficient justification. What positive. Realities. Or we talking about. And whenever we engage in an explanation for why evil has why God has permitted evil. To exist and continue. We call that we're engaging in the work of a theocracy. Or. And you probably have heard that word before. And so we're going to delve into a theocracy. This afternoon. And I'm going to start with the great controversy argument number one. Destroying Lucifer and evil and hence evil. Immediately. Destroying Lucifer immediately. Wasn't a good idea. Destroying Lucifer immediately. Wasn't a good idea why. Well God's character in the context of the great controversy. God's character. His law. And his management of the universe was being discredited by Lucifer. Lucifer also claimed that he had something better to offer. And he was spreading and instilling that data and information with other inhabitants. In haven't. And you can read about that in the book great controversy. Consequently now. Now Listen Very Carefully. The universe at large right. Not just the enjoy. But the worlds beyond all created beings. Had on its questions that necessitated an open. Comprehensive response to resolve the accusations of Lucifer. If God had eradicated Lucifer at the point of this rebellion. The consequences would have been disastrous for two reasons. Number one. The accusations of Lucifer. Whatever remained ambiguous and. Unsaddle it. And that's a very important point. The accusations of Lucifer. Would have remained ambiguous and unsettled. It wasn't merely a point of God saying hey look at this is the real deal. When Moosa for was questioning. God's very response to these things. Number two he could not eradicate Lucifer at the point of rebellion because if you had done so fear. Would have replaced love. As the motivation. How many of you have brothers and sisters brothers and sisters. How many of you have been involved in an age old good old spanking before. All of you. OK. How many of you have been punished together with your sibling. How many of you have sat down have a brother by the way. Is sit down and. And so we're getting punished you know Koreans are really strict you know. And Korean dads can be scary. And so you're sitting down and let's just say that my Dad asked us a question of something that we did clearly wrong. And let's just say my dad knew the truth. Right. And my brother. Not knowing that lied. Right. And as soon as the lines. He gets called down on it and he get spanked harder. And I'm observing that. All right what do you think I'm going to do. I'm going to tell the truth what is my motivation. Exactly. Absolutely. Fear. Now my dad was an abusive I don't want you to get the wrong impression that. That he was abusive but illustration is this is the point of the illustration. Is that God could not eradicate Lucifer for for both of these reasons combined. There were unsettled questions and fear would have replaced love as a motivating factor. And that would have been disastrous for the universe at large. So resolving the issue demanded. The process of time and events. Right time and events. God had the end in mind and being God. He knew what the end was. And so God understood that these on resolve questions. Could only be settled and this is a very important point other important point. These. Individually. There they are sente and thinking thoughtful creatures that God has made. And they must come to a place where these questions are resolved and not cold worst that is not how God. Operates. Or only then could Moosa first charges be settled for ever and beyond all question. An intelligent decision. Of God's creation. Demanded. Access to the facts. And all of them. And that would take time and the process of events to occur. Thus Lucifer. Sin and evil. Were permitted to continue this serves as a morally sufficient justification. One of them for allowing evil. To Exist. God could only bring about certain positive. Realities. By permitting evil. And I want to go ahead and share. Where some of these concepts are derived from from the book patriarchs in profits page forty one and forty two. God permitted Satan. To carry for his work until the spirit of disaffection ripened into active revolt. It was necessary for his plans to be fully developed that their true nature and tendency might be seen by all the true character of the usurper and his real object must be understood by the way this assumes that his real object was not understood by the heavenly beings. Secondly God permitted Satan to demonstrate the nature of his claims that evil is the result of God's government. His own work. Satan's own work must condemn him. The whole universe must see the deceiver and mast. Infinite Wisdom. Infinite wisdom did not destroy Satan. Since only the service of love can be acceptable to God. The allegiance of his creatures must rest upon a conviction of his Justice and benevolence. Had he been immediately blotted out of existence. Some would have served God from fear. Rather than love. And the final point here. The inhabitants of haven't. And of the world's could not then have seen the justice of God in the destruction of Satan. The influence of the deceiver. Would not have been fully destroyed never talk about. They were unsettled questions. Nor would the spirit of rebellion have been orderly eradicated. Evil must be permitted to come to maturity. Why got I did have one more quote here. And this provides the comprehensive picture here. For the good of the entire universe. Through ceaseless ages Satan. Must more fully develop his principles. That is charges against the divine government might be seen in their true light. All created beings. And that the Justice and Mercy of God and the immutability of his law. Might be forever. Place. Beyond all question. Said another way. It was God's purpose to place things. On an eternal. Basis of security. And in the councils of heaven. It was decided that member I've been emphasizing that time. Must be given for Satan to develop his principles which were the foundation of his system of government. He claimed that these were superior to God's. I want to provide a second argument it's called the freedom of will. Defense and. This is going to take a little mental activity. Hopefully you don't eat too much of a lunch that your food isn't clogging up your brain. And as I mentioned earlier. I'm glad that they didn't serve. Indian food because it would be close by the way I love Indian food. I love Indian food. As I can eat it when I'm speaking or when I need to really use my brain. Because it's typically Buffet's than. And you eat a little more there. So the freedom of will the fence. God desires for his creatures a service of love. Right an army that springs from an intelligent appreciation of his character. He takes no pleasure in a force to Allegiance. And to all the grants freedom of will that they may render a voluntary service. Now the freedom of will. Argument. It goes something like this now. Now follow me here. Number one. A world where free creatures exist as prefer a ball to a world. Absent a free creatures. Would you agree with that. Yes. To God's original created beings Lucifer Adam and Eve had true freedom of will. Thus the underlying basis of love as is what actual waited. Their decisions. Three. God doesn't cause or forces creatures. To do only that which is morally good. He doesn't cause that he doesn't determine his creatures to do only that which is morally good. If he did so they wouldn't be truly free. Would you agree with that number four in order to create creatures with the capacity for moral good God had to create them with the capacity for evil. And not prevent them from committing evil. Would you agree with that. Five. Godfrey creatures. Chose to Ribeiro against kids or their maker. Six. Thus evil exists. Alternately God could have prevented evil. All me by preventing the capacity for good. So sudden other way. Alvin Plantinga he's won new has spent a lot of time thinking about this question. And he's written a book that essentially has has as has silence. The criticism or the attacks by the atheists. In regard to the question of evil. And so you'll find that many people who are involved with this question. Will will cite. Album putting up at the sensually for those who are in the know. Those who deal with this subject. At academic philosophical level. Pretty much understand that this question is no longer for debate. And notice what he says here. He says a really top notch. Universe. Requires the existence of free rational and moral agents. And some of the free creatures he created went wrong. But the universe with the free creature the contains. And the evil they commit. Is better then it would have been had it contained. No free creatures. Nor this evil. Right because the other option would have been forgot to take away the freedom of will and that is not a viable option for God. The fact that free creature sometimes go wrong. However counts neither against gods of the potential. Nor against his goodness for he could have forestalled the occurrence of moral evil or only by removing the possibility of moral good. Now keep in mind. Album putting is not an admin is. But when you actually take a statement and combine it with what we know as Adventists. It's a very profound and very strong argument that we have when it comes to the existence of evil. And all power or powerful and all of in God. Allowing it to go on. We also have theologically speaking. The fall of man defense right as a reason for the existence of evil. The fall is unique to Christianity in explaining the existence of evil. In our world. It assumes that the abnormality and by the way sin and evil is an abnormality. That this. This phenomenon that we see within the creation order is not intrinsic to humans or nature. The fall explains the abnormality and dysfunction of humans and society and explains moral evil being the result of the praised natures. And the rebellious will. Of human beings. And so. So we have some philosophical arguments the great controversy argument. The the free will argument. The fall of man argument. And then the question remains. OK so we understand why God permit it evil to go on and for as long as it has. But the question remains what is God doing. About evil. What is God's solution to evil. Is he just standing back and not doing anything. Is he truly silent as even some Bible writers have have have in their NG stand in their own suffering have cried out to God where are you and I'm sure some of you in this room have cried out to God where are you in in the pain and misery that we see in this world. What is God doing about it. So here's a Biblical response. Right the biblical narrative. Both the old in the New Testament is composed of stories of God's dealings with the deprived world. That is prone to evil. God's plan to car counteract evil. More often than not is stymied by man's rebellion. Remember God God raised up the people of Israel. To be expansive Ters of his character his word and to be a blessing to the nations. But his plan was stymied. Because of the free choice edge and the freedom of will of of of His creatures by man's rebellion. Nevertheless gone in his love and mercy. NET humanity at his weakest point. And found the ultimate victory over evil in the death of the Son of God. So I want to ask this question. What is God doing about evil. One response is simply that he died. What is God doing about Evo. He died he die. For all the sins. And all the evil that has ever been committed also and were placed upon him and he paid the penalty of the evil that we see in this world. These are vigils page twenty two. From the beginning God in Christ knew of the apostasy of Satan. And the fall of man. Through the through the distaff the power of the a past eight. God did not ordained that sin should exist. But he foresaw its existence and made provision to meet this terrible. Emergency. All of the evil. All the atrocities a genocide the injustice. All the evil ever committed in the past the present and the future. Was placed upon Jesus as his guilt. His own guilt. And he died the death. That humanity is erve what it God do about evil he died. And what is God doing about evil. He forgives. And thus we should to. Thus we should to the Cross provides the basis. To forget not vertically. Right. God can never forget the pain we've caused him is God. But for us to forget. Horizontally. The sins that of others have inflicted upon us. Right. God said. God In joins us to forgive others as he has forgiven. You and I And so what has God done. About evil or what is God doing about evil. He forgives. And he also asked us to forgive others. For the evil they commit against us what is God doing about evil. He stops it before it gets out of hand. We find this in the story of the. The flood now. This is a negative example in the sense that there's destruction we also see it in in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. The destruction of the Canaanites. And all to MILLION the demise of Israel and Judah. God's people themselves. The flood is one way God responds to evil the flood occurred because God had to stop. Evil P. four it got out of hand. I'm not going to read this entire passage but notice. What she whatever my says in pay trucked in profits page ninety one in describing the evil of of the pre-flood generation. Crime and wretches nearest rapidly increase men exulted in their deeds of violence. They did a lighted in destroying the life of the animals. They came to regard for human life. With astonishing. Indifference. The Bible put it this way in Genesis Chapter six. And again I'm not going to read all of it. But the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great his heart was only evil continually The lord was a grieved the Lord. And so the Lord said I will blot out man whom I have created for all flesh. Had corrupted their way on the earth one. Bible common target stated this way. The flood stands as a reminder that God hates evil. And what it does to his creation. That he can. And sometimes will take steps to stop it in its tracks. But that. Precisely because he is a Sovereign Creator. He will find a way of working through and out the other side. To fulfill the purpose which he still intends for his creation. What is God doing about evil. This is an example in the positive. He established the people to counteract evil injustice and immortality. He established in Abraham. And in his call a people to be exposed turds. Of the Word of God and to be a blessing to all nations. We find that in Genesis Chapter twelve versus one through three. That he would be a blessing that in him. All the families of the Earth would be. Be blessed of course we know that point it all to Millie to Christ. But it also pointed to God's the children of Israel as they would reflect God's character. To the world. What is God doing about evil. He utilizes that. For his good. Now God didn't bring about evil so that he could bring about good. That would make God responsible for evil. I'm not saying that whatsoever. What I am saying is that God is the master chess player. Right now saying that he played chess either. But God is the master chess player who is able to counteract evil and to utilize it for his good let me give you an example of that. And the story of Joseph the story of Joe's of revealed in one story. Eve all the evil of his brothers in selling him. And that the same time you see God's sovereignty and goodness. In utilizing and counteracting evil. For the good. You see this in Genesis Chapter forty five and vs four five seven and A for sake of time we have to skip some of these verses shows us the truth was come near to me and he said. I am your brother Joseph whom you sold into Egypt. Do not be distressed or NG gree with yourselves because he sold me here in other words I know you did me evil. You did me harm. But you know what. God sent me before you. To preserve life. And God said be before you. To preserve for you a remnant and to keep you alive for many survivors. So ultimately it was not you who sent me here. But God then ultimately God News Joseph. And the evil. That was inactive up on him God used it ultimately for his good. And we see the character marvelous. With dumb and character of God in that. What is God doing about Evo the judgement. Argument. The justice. Argument. This is the question that's raised and it's a very good question because. The claim is made that. You know God just forgives people and doesn't that be little the evil that. That has been done what do you say to that young girl who was the demise right. Doesn't it doesn't forgiving that person Jess. Just minimize the atrocity that he trusts it is that he and others are committing. Doesn't that negate justice and. And of course the answer to that would be. Jesus died on the cross for that very soon. So that people like him. By God's grace. Should he repent and change its way. God can save even at person. You know monastic who thought Isaiah in app. In half will be in Evan by the grace and mercy of God. The what is God doing evil he forgives. But there's also something that. That must happen. In terms of God's justice for those who do not repent and turn from their evil. There is justice for this question is raised. God may forgive evil done in the past. But the evil that was done to the Jews we just saw that in the Holocaust. The murdered man and his family the rape victim. The family does the been made by by a drunk driver. The relatives of those killed by terrorist bomb. What right has got to say. Critics of God. Pose this question. What right has got to say that this is evil can somehow be wiped away. So that it appears not to exist anymore. Is this not simply another way of be literally evil. Making it appear that it isn't really has important as all that and. What right has got to say that he forgives the offender when it is Joe Smith. And not God who has really been hurt. God deals with the question on the basis of number one forgiveness we just talked about that. And number two the judge been that evil. Will be judged. And that there will be just as I want to provide. Several biblical passages here. Right here you have the Psalmist describing his experience that God is good to Israel to those who are pure in heart. And then he says you know but you know in my experience. I'm summarizing here. My feet. Almost stumble. My steps and nearly slipped. Because I was envious of the air again. I see I saw their prosperity the prosperity of the wicked. They have no pains until death. They are not in trouble as others are they are not stricken like the rest of mankind. They set their balance against the have and their even blast the best. And then he says he poses this rhetorical question have I have I have my kept my heart clean in vain and washed my hands in innocence. And I in that he says. But when I thought how to understand this is seemed wearisome until I went into the same shoe area of God then the light bulb clicked on. And I discerned. There and for behold. Those who are far from you shall perish. You put in. And to everyone who is unfaithful to you. A passage in Revelation this question is also asked in Revelation. I saw those under the altar the souls of those who have been slain for the Word of God. And for the witness that they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice. All sovereign lord. Wholly untrue how long before you will judge and avenge our blood in other words. How long before. Justice will take place on those who dwell on the earth. And they were told to rest a little longer and then in Revelation Chapter sixteen. The answer is given. And I heard the enjoy in charge of the waters. Say just are you all Holy One who is and who was for you Bron these judgments. For they have shed the blood of saints of profits. And you have given them blood to drink. It is what they the word there is X. the OS which means. It is what they are deserving of or. It is their due. And I heard the altar sick. Saying YES LORD God the Almighty true. And just or your job or your judgments evil will be terminated. Injustice. At the second death. In the book create controversy. In the chapter the controversy ended in the cleansing flames. The wicked. Will that last be destroyed root and branch. Satan the root his father words the branches quoting now a car they are alluding to Malakai. The full penalty. Of the law has been visited the demands of justice have been met and heaven and earth. Be holding declare the righteousness of Jehovah. I want to end with this other this final thought that when it comes to evil in this world what should be our perspective. And we have to understand that God has eternity in mind. And that you and I should do. I think of second currently in chapter four. Verses sixteen through eighteen so we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away. And our inner self is being renewed day by day. This line night. Momentary affliction. Is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory. Beyond all comparison. These things that we are that are see our transience their temp oral. But the things that are unseen. Are eternal. In Romans chapter eight. I love how Paul puts it here. It's almost like he's easily at a scale and weighing the life on Earth versus haven't. And then he concludes the suffering of this present time. Are not worth comparing with the glory. That is to be reveal. Creation wait with eager longing in the hope that creation itself be set free from its bondage. But we ourselves groan inwardly as we wait. Eagerly for adoption as sons. The redemption of our bodies and finally. I love this passage in Revelation chapter twenty one. Thinking with the end in mind. And the and the perspective of eternity. That there will be a new haven't. And a new earth. When the first have it in the first Earth will have passed away. And God will wipe away every tier from their eyes and death. Shall be no more. Neither shall there be mourning nor crying. Nor pain anymore. For them former things. Have passed away how many of you are looking for a time when all this mystery in pain we're seeing a one day be no more. And what what a day. That will be. I want to close with this short quote. As we conclude this. The series here. The history of the great conflict between good and evil. From the time it began and haven't. To the final overthrow of rebellion. And the total eradication of sin is a demonstration of God's changing love. Do you believe that. Let's go ahead and stand. As we conclude this message for today. How many father. I've been to many many G Y C S Thursdays. Or a marathon. And we just thank you for the in the end you're in some of the saints. And we thank you for the. The strength for all the speakers and sharing the words of God. And we just pray Lord that the things that we have learned will not just be had knowledge that we will apply it to our heart and nor do we pray that ultimately that this question. The question of your character. Before the world and the universe as it is vindicated. Through your name and your work in humanity and through humanity that we will go forward and triumph. As you give us the victory. As it is in Jesus Christ. We thank you Nord. We asked this. In your name. This message was recorded at the G Y C twenty fifteen conference cold. Chosen. They for in Louisville Kentucky. You I see the supporting Ministry of a Seventh Day Adventist Church. Seeks to inspire young people to be bible based Christ centered and soul winning Christians to download or purchase other resources like this visit us online at W W W G Y C Web dot au or G.

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