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Romans 8:1-4 "The Likeness of Sinful Flesh"

Norman McNulty

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Norman McNulty

Neurologist at Crockett Hospital, Lawrenceburg, TN

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  • May 27, 2009
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I is simulation are serious studies in the book of Romans in some night is Romans eight which is the seat of the Excel we are going to get through part of chapter eight and I'm sure we won't do all of it before we do that is our transfer would occur if starting with our study father in heaven we thank you for bringing us here in the middle of the week to study your Word and pray together we pray now that your spirit would bless us as we study this in Porton chapter of Romans eight Freddie sings in Jesus name and so Romans a is the last chapter in Paul's theological exposition of the gospel before he transitions into practical applications of the gospel and serve when we get to chapter a call start to make a lot of connections from earlier in the book and these connections are very powerful and it's sort of like the sea save the best for a while so this is what were in a study denied last week we finished up around seven and by way of review starting in verse for seeing pulses for we know that a lot of spiritual but I am carnal sold understand when you are carnal sold understand that means you are ace way if you are sold under something you are a slave to that and when you were a slave you are forced to do things I mean this is just in the human when you were a slave you do things that you don't want to be him down he said he wanted to think about the slaves in that part of our American history shoes instead of getting to have freedom and make their own choices among their own lives were forced to do with her masterful as an in Romans seven the experience is something carnal sold understanding is doing that which you don't want indeed and not doing what you wanted to and if you are sold understand that means your are a slave or a servant to send Paul talks about in Romans chapter six and that makes sense whenever seventeen and again in verse twenty pulses it is no more I that do it but some of what was then the because Senator Master you are a servant to and then we saw in verse twenty four pulses over wretched man that I am in the only other place of the word ratchet is found in the Bible as the great mortality Perez is Revelation three to describe the way to see and experience and Laodicea is not only rest of their miserable for blind and naked and because they're naked that means they're not covered with the righteousness of Christ after not cover the righteousness of Christ you're clearly not justified since you have the experience of being a doing the things you don't want to do and not doing the things he wants to be that same car sold understand which means you are a servant for a slave to sin that means your ratchet that means that you have the experience of the Laodicean church crisis he wants to see you out of his mouth so that's a brief review of starting last week so we can or selling hall is showing this is what it means to be a servant to see around us Chapter six he shows this is what it means to be a servant to God what is immune to be a servant of God to be dead to sin to be crucified with Christ and around six or seven those you are dead to sin are justified because the marginal reading for free from sin is justified so bottom line Romans six things at the same as the experience of justification Romans seven being a servant to center a slave this interbank final means that you're not justified and we talked about this before but yet many Christians and even happiness siege that Romans seven is the Christian experience on your way to have a policy now your carnal sold understanding your wretched and if you're sold understand your service and if your service and are not justified and cannot justify you not say so the bottom line is Romans seven is the experience of someone who is not saved so don't let anyone tell you that Romans seven shows us that we have an excuse to keep sending to Jesus something is clearly the teaching so that we come to the end of Robinson and Paul then makes his summary statement of the first seven chapters chapter eight verse one says there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus to walk not after the flesh but after the spirit this is a very very significant verse as unanimous what Paul Dunster and if you have a King James that she words there is those keywords are supplied solicits the first word really is therefore so he sorry the first seven chapters therefore there is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus who are not after the flesh but after the spirit whom I had that many of her modern translations leave out the second half and just say there's no combination of them which are in Christ Jesus and leave out the parts part of those who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and the second heart belongs in the verse in Ottawa now that will looking universal words of the same second-half reverse forces you walk not after the flesh but after the sphere so let's talk about this and we can get into a whole discussion about the received text versus the other line of manuscripts and in the Texas receptors to walk not after the flesh but after the spirit is always in the Protestant manuscript what does it mean to be in Christ Jesus will verse one clearly explains that as you walk not after the flash of atmosphere but once again a couple of other Bible verses she consider what it means to be in Christ Jesus before we do that let's consider what policy he is saying there is therefore now no fun and nation to them which are in Christ Jesus that he remember where we've come from the book of Romans by the time we get to Romans three Paul has created that whether you are a shoe or a Gentile whether you know about God oh you don't know about God his zeal for God because all that send and come short of the glory of God therefore without price all we served this condemnation and yet when he gets around as a verse one the good news of the gospel there is no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus and so from going from the plan like wow I've sinned and come short of the glory of God I deserve condemnation and judgment to realizing pages those two are in Christ Jesus to walk not after the flesh but after the spirit is no condemnation this should be a cause of great rejoicing to the believer those who are reading this letter for the first time seeing what Paul is saying in a negative CheckFree reformulate while there is no condemnation is it mean to be in Christ Jesus while in performances it's those you walk not after the flash but after the spirit what is a minute walk after the flesh Reverend seven shows us what that is being carnal sold understood not doing the things we want to do and doing the things we don't want to be in Romans eight and assures what it means to walk after the Spirit in a couple of other verses that talk about what it means to be in Christ Jesus there to John chapter seventeen John chapter seventeen judge after seventeen is the same as chapter of Christ's prayer the night before he died now it's interesting when you get to John seventeen versus youth Jesus in his prayer to the father says you have given me power over all flash so Jesus life through but he had power over the flash him those you are in Christ Jesus walk not after the flesh but after the spirit that furthermore in John chapter seventeen verse twenty one this is where we are going to make a connection to what it means for us in Christ Jesus John chapter seven machine verse twenty one Jesus is that they all may be one as thou father are in me and high in the that they also may be wanted in 's that the world may believe that thou hast sent to notice the subject matter your crisis and praying for his disciples in chapter seventeen an analysis praise for those who will believe on him to come after him as his disciples and then pinch-hitter verse twenty one he says that they his disciples and all those who shall believe on God through the witness of his disciples which would include us because we ring the witness of the disciples to the state and the gospel that they all may be one as thou father arguing me and I in Lisa notices the relationship between the father and the relationship between the father and the son is that the father is in the sun and the sun is in the father so Jesus says as eighties three train for unity that we may all be one as an and what how does that unity here's the example the father is in the sun and the sun father see that serve as liaison to say that they also may be one in us so now Sears us toward the day in John seventeen who is the way it's if you look at John seventeen at the expense the disciples that Jesus is praying for and also all those who shall believe on Christ through the word of the disciples which could include anyone down in the closet so what is he praying for that just as the father is in the sun and the sun is in the father that we or they wouldn't be in the father in the son now again in verse twenty one that they also may be one in class that the world may believe that thou hast sent so the believers that Christ was praying for she is frightened that they may be one in the father and son and that is comparable to the father being in the sun in the Sunday father now what's the significance of this when Jesus lived here on this Earth the father lives in him and through and if you look in John chapter five Jesus says I can have my homes of mine own self do not answer the father was in him and the sun was so connected to the father the son was also in the father Bonita verse twenty three axis I in them and thou in him her one so not only this not only are we to be in the father and the son but the sinus to be in us as the father is in the sun we see that certain diagram about the father is in the song and the sun is in us and we are in that's what it means to be one with the father and the son so we are in Christ and Christ is in the father was in Christ and Christ was also in the father to see the surgeon father was in the sun and the sun within the father and Jesus and I am than and it also says that we will be in the and so when we address chapter eight verse one it says there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus and goes on the sidewalk on after the flesh but after the Spirit what does it mean to be in Christ Jesus well it means that just as the father was in the sun and the sun was in the father we are in Christ and Christ is enough so soon no longer be under condemnation we need to have the experience of being in Christ and Christ being in 's we party talked about this in the murder room is interesting if you go on down John seventeen since I am number twenty three I in them and thou in me that they may be made perfect in one and that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them as Muslim is Jesus is the world may have found this why is that so often people don't know we are Christians should it be because we are not in Christ Jesus and Christ is not analysis of the world doesn't see any difference and that if the father is in Christ and Christ is in us and we are in Christ the world will not think it's interesting if universe twenty fourth Jesus his father in his prayer a father I will than they also do not even need be with me where I am that prayer will be fulfilled at the second coming because as best as we know none of the disciples as cheeses now and so win that prayers answered that we are one with Christ and one with each other then we can see Jesus that we won't spend time on that concept right now Romans chapter he got back to chapter even as there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus what does that mean it means for us to be in Christ and for Christ in the end I just as the father was in Christ and Christ is in the father so that you have that experience there is therefore now no condemnation and when you are in Christ and Christ is in you it only makes sense that you would walk not after the flesh but after the spirit because if you are in Christ and Christ is in you you're going to want according to the spirit of God because Christ is now in control of your life now the continuing younger students as for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law 's now there's two laws of the policy talk about here the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and the loss send so you want fries gives us and brings why the want that sin brings us or whether you video the law sin brings us that so if you go back to Romans six when we should look at the concept of life we see in Romans six first four that Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the father so we can also walk in newness of life and I goes on to talk about how death has no more dominion over Christ and son has no more dominion over us that's a lot the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus the law of sin and death we see you later in the chapter when we see that the wages of sin is death so according to the lost son if you send you to the loss and pre- straightforward verses three and four 's are very important number to spend some time on these two verses starting in verse reasons for what the watch and not GE in that it was weak through the flash God sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for said Shen Dennis sent in the flash that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit so this is a powerful concept here what's like the diagram things I hear certain sure we have the law we have a flash in the watt is unable to help us because the flesh is weak what the law does is it points out son and wind are flashing weird if you remember from Romans three and talks about how there is none that understand there is none the secret after God they are all gone out of the way they are become unprofitable about the flash and non- seeking after God going away from God turning away from and that's because the flesh is weak and so then right after that litany of verses in Romans three minutes is all the world is guilty before God and the judgment so the wall points out because we choose to send in our flesh which is when we shall rise us in the direction that she was not certain all the water in the essay here under condemnation and are flush doesn't help us keep the law because as we so when pulses for what the law should not be in that it was weak through the flash so I can't help us because the flushes need for policy and so we need help where's the help and comfort than pulses of God sending his own son figures for the help comes from comes from the sun God sending his own son housing in a helpless sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh so we ourselves because the sun was setting in the likeness of sinful flash in years on the state and forced send condemned sin in the so you are flush because we've send send has power over us all have sinned and come short of the glory of God therefore the law condemns us and therefore send for their issue cannot have priced you not been forgiven sin condemns us and have dominion over us because once we send ordeal human judgment when our deserving of condemnation and so were in a hopeless condition send then is our master but what happened when Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh sensation Jan send in the flesh so what Jesus did whatever it was sanctioned jammed cinema flash which means that if she condemns in the flesh that means send no longer has power over the flesh because Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin condemned sin in the flash and Paul makes the point very clear as he goes on so is he condemned sin in the flesh for what reason that the righteousness of the law to remember the lot can help us because it flushes me now the righteousness of the law can be fulfilled now where does Paul say the righteousness of the loss fulfilled is fulfilled in Christ as a fulfillment outside of us in place of us somewhere else now Paul says that the righteousness of the law fulfilled in us so now the righteousness of the law is being fulfilled not only in Christ in 's shoe walk not after the flesh but after the spirit now want to be very clear here if the righteousness of the law is being fulfilled in us what happened self-guided or the old man was crucified in Romans six of the body of sin might be destroyed so we were crucified with Christ and so we have the experience and Galatians two twenty where Paul says I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ lives in me and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the son of God who loved me and himself for me so now Christ is living in us in Christ we now when he was sure on this earth never send the price kept the righteousness of the law one hundred percent of the time I think everyone would agree with Ryan I mean John fourteen thirty says the prince of this world cometh and find nothing in Christ he couldn't find anything Christ kept the law one hundred percent of the time and we see in Romans seven verse twelve that the commandment is holy the lawn the commandment is holy just in good and that describes everything about Jesus Christ she's wholly just and good so now she was righteous life for the righteousness of the law is being fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit which is the same concept that we talked about in Romans eight risk one therefore there is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and Romans eight four the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit 's analysis in Romans eight one one we are in Christ we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and Romans eight four when the righteousness of a while fulfilled in us we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit easy the same thing here soon Romans eight verse one we are in Christ when we are in Christ we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit Romans eight four when the righteousness of Christ this fulfilled in us that means Christ is in this we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit so that means Christ is in pass so it goes back to the concept that we talked about in John seventeen if we are in Christ that means prices in this just as the father was in the sun the sun was in the father if we are in Christ then Christ is in us and when we are in Christ and Christ is in class the righteousness allies fulfilled in us or Christ righteous life is fulfilled in us and what did Paul say in Romans eight verse one he says there is no condemnation so ditch there is no condemnation what does that mean about your salvation experience means are justified because if you're not justified we are under condemnation but then if you have no condemnation that means you're justified and what does it mean simply no longer under condemnation it means that your in Christ Jesus what is in the man Christ Jesus in a somewhat hot after the flesh but after the spirit and what else how a publisher of the same experience Jesus Christ and that Christ's righteousness is fulfilled in us which means Christ is living in us so what does it mean to be justified as a means for Christ in the end so to be justified is more than I have the righteousness of Christ outside of the means now the righteousness of Christ inside ensure you have the righteousness outside that she many times Christians say while I'm traveling with his righteousness but I have the Romans and experience I don't do the things I wanted I do the things I don't want it oh well I guess I'm wretched and his associates you are in your awesome naked and you're not covered so it's clear now let's talk a little bit about Jesus coming in the whiteness of sinful flash this is a loaded topic I realize that but it's in the Bible summary talk about because this is the reason why many are able to have the righteousness of Christ fulfilled in us it's the reason why were able to have justification by faith if we don't have this experience we don't have justification by faith let's break down the likeness of sinful flesh in verse three we see that the flesh is now the flash some could argue is just flush and loans but yet in Romans seven eighteen Paul says for I know that in me that is in my flash as well as no good thing four some will is present with me that how to perform that which is not so here's the experience of the flush I want to do what's right but I don't have the power to new does that sound like a physical experience only or a mental experience is describing a mental experience so Jesus then came in the likeness of sinful flash with an understanding of having a fallen human mind that has no power of its own to to do what it wants to do and it's interesting in John chapter five Jesus as I can not mine own self do nothing what will get there weren't worth were just building up for the righteousness of Christ sorting and so Christ of course in the book of which is described as being one of the Holy Spirit is described as the only thing and she of course was born of a woman who had a fallen human nature and of courses he was conceived of the Holy Spirit assertive women when he said he received we see that Jesus was made in all things like his brother and we studied in receiver 's class of his brethren are those who are sanctified it is sanctified will on and so forth when Paul says that God sent his own son in the likeness of sinful flash the worldwide nice country the Greek word that could mean either the same as or similar to force the great debate in the nature of Christ the theologians who believe that Jesus had a freelancer in which increase on nature they believe that the Word like this clearly shows that there was a difference and the people to take the post laceration or forestall you say now that shows that he had the same nature and the question that you have to ask is what with Paul so here was Hall emphasizing the difference of Jesus between Jesus and us or was he emphasizing the similarity between Jesus and its communist similarity because what he sang is that the experience that Christ can be fulfilled in us as well so the emphasis is similarity similarity similarity not the big difference and yet theologians will use this first to magnify out there's a big difference between Christ and now it was just point out a couple of other verses in Philippians two five actually verse five on in verse seven and a bursitis is what this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus were called to have the same on a price that NNM verse seven says Jesus was made in the likeness of man same work like this so Jesus was either the same as manner similar to and again the emphasis is on the similarity not the difference and if you wonder well was with Paul single Jesus was like a man but he really was an amanuensis made in the likeness of men the apostle John in first John chapter four verses two and three says cure binary the spirit of God every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God first three and every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flush is not of God and this is that spirit of antichrist where he occurred that it should and even now already is in the world so John is saying like if you say that Jesus really was a man then you are of the spirit of antichrist because this was what I was trying to push first people here on this earth she came in the flesh in the Greek word for flush serious SARS which includes mind and body not just body and so John is saying hey if you say that Jesus didn't come the flash and this was from a first century argument in the Christian church you are of antichrist and the people in the first century try to useful against two seven six four he was made in the likeness of you was really a and in the same author Paul and Romans aces likeness of sinful flesh call what he is trying to do here is he is trying to emphasize similarities of Jesus with fallen humanity that Jesus was like us ensure that it is possible to live a victorious life in our fallen nature and because he did that but she condemned sin in the flesh which means send no longer has power over our flashover fallen nature and now the righteousness of Christ can be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit Gallery just a couple of quotes from Ellen why she derived from this point this is from phase I went by page twenty three the Savior took upon himself the infirmities of humanity and lived a sinless life that men might have no fear that because of the weakness of human nature they could not overcome CCS is the second Council of human nature so that we can have faith another week and Howard energy is honestly the press of this world since Jesus and have nothing in me John fourteen him that responded the same sophistry she did not consent this not even by a thought that he yielded to notation and then we say well that's not the way it is my life and yet Ellen White says so it may be with us so what may anyone else nothing that response the same sophistry nonconsenting descent and not even via thought yielding to temptation that is not my father so it may be with us and she goes on to say in the she says we need not retain one's propensity is interesting when you get to great controversy page six twenty three she forth the same idea but now she's talking about God 's PC full living in the Time of troubles she goes on it here she says again Christ declared himself the prince of this world cometh and have nothing in me John fourteen thirty Satan could find nothing in the sum of the son of God that would enable him to gain the victory kid kept his father 's Commandments and there was no synonym that Satan can use to his advantage among those fortresses this is a condition in which others must be found who shall stand in the time of trouble so instead I went by page twenty three she says the experience of Christ so maybe with us great controversy she says this is how we are to be in the time and trouble so the way Jesus lived so maybe with us and Martha Wayne Lear to be in the China trouble so I've actually read theologians you quote this passage is to say see Jesus had a different nature than actually she said just as Jesus was certainly so so that's informed to understand than the one last will actually yell mention this doesn't deserve a distinction pages one twenty one twenty three she's him around strength it is impossible for us to deny the clamors of our fallen nature through this channel signal bring temptation upon Christ knew that the enemy would come to every human being to take advantage of hereditary weakness and by his false insinuations and since they're all true stress is not in the gotten notices certain in our own strength we can't deny the climbers are fallen nature we have to return weakness Christ is the enemy would try to take advantage of this notice what happens Christ by passing over the ground which man must travel has shared away for us every so because Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flash for that meeting means that he passed over the same ground that I pass her that means that I can overcome the way he overcame that means the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit to live the way Christ with now one other person on the Narita point this out this first Peter four verse one first Peter four verse one says for as much then as Christ suffered for us in the flash arm yourselves likewise with the same mind for each fee that have suffered in the flesh pets ceased from sin 's analysis of Christ suffered for us in the flesh what are we to do arm ourselves likewise with the same mind one of the verses about this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus Zapata Christ suffer in the flush it was in the mom working with sensitive citizen and Jesus was only sent to physically to be hungry or thirsty or tired or some theologians say goes against the servile verses that say what Christ suffered in the flesh how to decipher on the server came as we suffer in the flesh this Christ never said so the struggle is in the mind now is obviously time is gotten away from me that what's try to wrap up a few good ideas here we went in the first four versus secretary that through this chapter so for and serve as when we went in these first four versus what we see is there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus what does that mean however the flush that atmosphere what is the also be it means that just as we are in Christ Christ is enough in the same way that the father was in Christ and Christ is in the father and how he pray that we may be in the father is considered no longer be under condemnation means that Christ has come into us and we have some again to Christ and this is made possible because Christ came in the weakness of our sinful flash and showed how to live on the edge for his wife so he condemned the power of seminar week flash and now his righteousness can be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit now this is where Minna finish it all ties together being in Christ and Christ being in 's names that we are no longer under condemnation which means that we are justified so in order to be justified we must be in Christ and Christ Mrs. Bijan 's and if we go back to our familiar passages of Galatians two sixteen the same idea is brought on this is where we will wrap up well in the race some of the silly diagrams now in Galatians two sixteen it's interesting in this connection justification shall no longer being under condemnation English is to sixteen Paul says knowing that a man is not justified by the works for a walk to help but by the faith of Jesus Christ in the Greek is clear is the faith of Jesus Christ not faith in Jesus Christ and most modern translations in this translate this passage that we are justified by the faith of Jesus Christ even we have believed in Jesus Christ that we might be justified by the faith of Christ so when were justified in Galatians two sixteen were justified by faith of Jesus Christ and then we get to see Galatians three twenty sublime crucified with Christ nevertheless I will be at Malaga Christ lives in me and that sound familiar Christ Jesus Christ is among the women crucified with Christ I no longer will yet not a crisis in me that means I'm in crisis and crisis in the fathers in the sun the sun is in the father 's untrue supply crisis in the end the life which I now live in the flesh what how I was advised by the faith of the son of God was the faith of Jesus is not faith in the son that is the faith of the son of God which is the faith of Jesus that means when I'm crucified I am also justified that means that to be justified neither have the faith of Jesus it also means that Christ is living in me so if Christ we I am first to five and if I'm crucified I am also justified because women justified and justified by the faith of Christ in woman first to thought and crucified by the faith of Jesus I live by faith in Jesus Christ to be justified to be crucified Christ lives in me which means him crucified which means unjustified and we also see that we are no longer under condemnation when we are in Christ Jesus because we are in Christ and Christ is enough how do we know that because we are walking on after the flesh but after the spirit in verse and that connect diverse for this is the righteousness of Christ this fulfilled in us so the righteousness of Christ was fulfilled in us that means were crucified which means were justified in what means were no longer in a combination sorry I decided the world say this one more time as I want you to understand this room and a verse one says there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus which also means to walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and Romans eight for the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in those you walk not after the flesh but after the spirit if the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us that means Christ is living in SMS first four in verse one we are in Christ we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit that means we are no longer under condemnation and in Galatians we clearly see that when we are crucified Christ was and we live by the faith of Jesus when we are justified were justified by the faith of Jesus so that means we were justified were also crucified which means Christ lives in selling makes sense because him Christ in us were exercising his faith but ever and if he is in us that means she is righteousness is being fulfilled in us because were walking not after the flesh but after the spirit and in verse one those who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit are in Christ and Obama no longer under condemnation so the only reasonable conclusion hiking hunting season when I can the Romans engages the only way to being justified is to be in Christ and to walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and a half price living in me so that I can walk not after the flesh but after the spirits of his righteousness can be fulfilled in me and what's the significance of this the significance of this is as this means we have the faith of Jesus Christ and not of the third Angels message and Ellen White says that the message of justification by faith is the third Angels message and verity in the third Angels message is not ID the things I don't want to do and I don't do the things I wanted to praise the Lord am justified in the third Angels message that is powerless third Angel Tower the third angel 's cheers a group of people justified on the face of Jesus Christ which means there crucified with Christ Christ lives in they live by the faith of Jesus which means now they no longer under condemnation they walked out after the flesh but after the spirit and the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in the righteousness of the lot which is Christ being fulfilled in us and we talked about this alike to Max is the same thing as the mystery of God being finished in the second movement which God raises up to fulfill so as we study Romans will continue to study next week what we see is this the third Angels message is the message of justification by faith which describes a group of people who live by the faith of Jesus who are crucified with Christ who are in Christ Christ is in them and they are now dead to sin alive in Christ and they are no longer watching after the flash which is the experience of Romans seven of not doing the things that he wanted in doing the things you don't want to need being carnal being sold understanding a slate of sending the service and instead of having that experience we don't walk after the flesh the more we walk after the Spirit and that is made possible by the faith of Jesus Christ because he came in the likeness of sinful flesh so that he wonder why the nature of Christ has become such a divisive subject in our church is because the double miles that the nature of Christ the humanity of Christ makes his fourth helps us to clearly understand how we can have a victorious life in Christ and experience the third Angels message so that users can come back they're Angels message here's a patience of the center they keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus how can I have the faith of Jesus if you lived off in a different world now understands the temptations that I went through that if she came in the same nature that I will live in and understand what I go through them I can have faith that I can have the same experience in fact when I give my life to one crucified with Christ she comes in his nieces and that's righteousness by faith so it will continue Romans eight next week we'll talk about how to be carnally minded is death but to be spiritually minded is life and peace and all that will get you more than four verses next week I promise a good praise the Lord for the message of route

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