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Why Farm for a Living?

John Dysinger Pamela Dysinger

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  • January 25, 2017
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Dear Heavenly Father. Thank you again for this new day. Thank you for each of these people who are here to learn. And Lord we pray that the information we share will be encouraging and inspiring and that you will send your spirit to convict and direct these individuals into your plan for them. And we thank you for doing this in Jesus' name amen. I just want to say last year the pearly shared in our seminar too and I'm looking forward to seeing what difference has happened on their farm in a year. The other thing that I want to say is that you know it's not all bad to be without your notes. You know you just have to lean on the Lord that you'll remember and he'll. You know also I may say things that I didn't plan to say so. God is good. Through despite technological foibles. All right so I'm going to give very much in brief just a little bit of our family's history. John and I spent six years in Kenya where we taught missionaries children at Maxwell Adventist Academy and from there. How we got to farming is amazing. I don't know how God did it but he did and we just finished art our full testimony and you can buy the book at our booth where we really share all that God took us through and brought us to where we are today. So it's this is this is when we moved to the farm John's parents in their retirement bought one hundred ninety acres and we thought they were correct. We were in Africa the family was spread everywhere we thought what are they doing. But God knew and he planned it. And we moved there. In the spring. One thousand nine hundred ninety five and in the fall of one nine hundred ninety eight we launched bountiful blessings farm and we started as a strawberry production and we somehow had the idea. This is just tells how green we were we had the idea that we would earn our whole living from one crop in the spring being strawberries. It worked perfectly on paper. But it was quite a disaster we planted eighteen thousand plants that year we got them from this the tip stage. So we propagated them and then we planted them out in the field and this is our work. John and I care so it was six. Jonathan was five and Joshua was two and a half. And it's not that we didn't have any other help but we did the bowl of everything. It took us a full week to plant so that was where we began. So that's that's just another view of that field. It was thirty thirty rows that were three hundred feet long and if we could zoom up there you would see those three little dots are Kiersten and Jonathan and myself and I'll tell you it was totally overwhelming for this. I wouldn't call myself a city girl but I had no experience with this kind of gardening. I mean I had been a gardener. I grew up gardening with my parents but this was just totally beyond what we had ever dreamed. So I would say this about our beginning it was two things. It was extremely hard and it was extremely humble. We just started with nothing just nothing. And except the land. My father in law had a tractor and God ordained that a family member gave us a few implements for our tractor. And that's kind of where we started. And I won't tell you the ten years that followed this year were full of mountain tops and very deep valleys. But we wouldn't trade them for anything. It was the richest experience for our family to go through. So this is our family today. And I'd like to introduce them if they're here. I D.. Why don't you boys just come up because you're going to you're going to be on next. Anyway is Caleb here. Serious. So I can introduce them from the picture if. I live in a house full of men. And I love it. So these are our men. First you met John this is our oldest Jonathan. Yes I've got one more man my fifth son. And I have one that's not with us today. So Jonathan you'll hear more from those of you who stopped by his greenhouse He is the owner and operator of farmers friend which is developing and manufacturing small tools for farmers and so we are so pleased to have him on the corner of the farm and next I'll just introduce you this time you can introduce this Joshua he's the main farmer in the bunch. He is farming our winter seasons and John and I mainly handle the summer but he is doing the winter growing with the apprentices. He helps us in the summer too we couldn't do it without him. Next is back and he is in the picture there. The blond one between Joshua and behind Kiersten Zack is in to be doing the farms in Tanzania right now serving for five months. He's working on the plantation and doing whatever needed to be done. Next as Caleb kill of us thirteen. He's our woodworker you can stop by our booth and you can see the the handcrafted things that the whistling woodworker does. And last but not least is our only girl cure Sten and we married her off to find young man. Mick connect almost two years ago. Coming up on two years and they are involved. They help us with the marketing and cures to and mainly manages our social media with Nick's help and then they do when they're on the farm. They they help with one of our farmers markets and so that is our our current team. Thank you so much here so let me show you that hey guys. Josh Ramo So step here because you're on next with Dad and Jonathan are right. So this is the farm today and it. We live in the red barn in a small part of the red barn and we have grown from being a one crop farm to running a C.S.A. which you'll hear more about the C.S.A. ten months of the year so we start the C.S.A. The first week of April. And we run it and and next week. The first week of February. Joshua will and the winter C.S.A. although he might still have some things to sell through this through. Month of February. We do farmers markets we do we have a small online market. We sell to some restaurants and we sell to some stores. So it's just a much we don't do anything in a grand way like our C.S.A. is eighty members. We'd like to have we'd like to get it up to one hundred but I mean there are C S A's that have hundreds. So we aim to keep it small and we'll talk a lot more about the C.S.A. that's the heart of what we do. So that's a little bit of where we're at. We have I just tell you about our structures we have four movable as which you see here. At the very the one very closest to the barn is our seed house it's the only heated structure that we have and then there are four movable who poses that we have three positions that we can move them into and then beyond then there are ten small pads and I'm sure John will talk about this more but we've gone to smaller plots as compared to we used to have an acre and a half of just a huge acre and a half. We've cut it down into small plots which is just. Helped us in many ways and then beyond those ten plots we have three thirty by a hundred foot who poses that are stationary structures. So that's a little bit of of our farm and I just want to say that you know as we present today. We just pray that everything that we share and everything that we do will be for God's glory and that's what we want our farm to be. We want to be a testimony to his faithfulness and his goodness. And so as we share today I hope that that will be foremost that we want God to be glorified. OK question about question and answers. We we are going to the last session. We hope will be time for question and answers and then we will probably have time for just a few. In between. Did you have you had a question on something that has already been cheered we can take one quick. OK And I am going to just repeat the questions for our universe is. But the question is about movable hoop houses she had heard about that. I would just tell you. Eliot Coleman is the one who kind of pioneered the movable hoop houses and there are certain advantages to them. There are disadvantages to so we actually have four movable and four stationary right now. Just quickly that I would say the main advantage for movable is you're able to use your space more efficiently. And that is a nice advantage you can have warm weather crops into November and then have your cool weather stuff planted outside and then move it over that and then do the reverse in the spring which is very nice and then the other main thing for movable hoop houses is. It's theoretically will keep the soil healthy year. Because you're you know an enclosed environment is unnatural and so you can have pests and diseases build up inside although a lot of that depends on how you manage it. Nick or are we ready to switch over. OK. So. I will just say at this point that we are a little conflicted in sharing about market gardening. Because as my wife shared you know we kind of started out doing everything wrong and we want to help you avoid the mistakes we made. But at the same time that was such a rich time for us. Period. Surely. And we grew so much in our faith in the Lord that we hate to think of people not going through hard times because it drew us so close to the Lord but I think the reality is your probably even with all the resources we're going to be sharing today you're probably still going to have some struggles. And so we trust that the Lord will teach you what he wants you to learn through that as well. So you know we're going to be focusing some on business and right now with this travelogue. We're going to talk quite a bit about money and again I am a little conflicted on that because I don't think that giving you dollar amounts is the best way to measure success. I think there's a lot more to it than that. So I just want you to keep that in mind as I throw out numbers of these farms we visited We're not suggesting that should be your goal to make that kind of money. I don't think you need to make that kind of money but again I'm trying to shatter this myth that I still hear a lot of Adventists saying Oh yeah. Be nice but you know you can't make a living doing that. That's just not true. You can. And we're not the best example you know we're we're still. Because we're trying to focus on ministry. We feel that God called us to ministry and to business. He he was pretty clear with us that he told us you know you focus on serving. And make sure the finances are taken care of. So that's really been our focus. We're not business people. But the Lord has blessed and I will just tell you that currently we're grossing. Between one hundred thirty and one hundred forty thousand a year. And again that's gross. Most small farms are netting forty to fifty percent of gross. And you know and we're trying to pay your kids and so you know the money goes. But anyway that gives you a little idea and then we'll talk about some of these other farms and this is going to be going to be kind of a whirlwind tour. I think I'm going to move over here. We visited in a week we visited. I think it was a different farms and this was our first stop Dan and Allie painting Shenandoah seasonal up in. The Shenandoah Valley in Virginia. They've only been doing it for I think this is their third year. My boys. I was hoping they're back there. OK Do you remember how many years they I think it was three. They they're going to have to be otherwise occupied and we didn't get this organize. Well enough for them to be sharing like I had wanted them to but anyway. The main thing that I got from this farm was just go for it. You know they had a lot of strikes against them they were leasing the land it was not very good land they they had to actually truck in their water in big tanks and they were using drip lines from the tanks. So they had three small who Powers's and they actually we delivered them a couple of Jonathan's Caterpillar tunnels. So again and they did quite a bit with chickens. They One neat thing if you're interested at all in chickens. We learn from them they buy what do you call pullets. In the spring that we're ready to lay. I think they pay ten dollars apiece and then they keep them all summer and then sell them in the fall for five dollars and so you know they're not having to take care of them through the winter which is really nice and you know you can make a lot more than five dollars on eggs through the summer eggs. You know Course. Some people may not be comfortable with that and we've kind of we've kind of gone back and forth with it but I guess we're to the place where we say you know. If people are going to eat eggs we'd rather them really healthy eggs. You know free range and so my son Joshua does do some eggs some poultry. So this is just a picture of some of their fields their beds. So again it was it was more our. Go. They're just taught me that you know if you just go for it. You Can they were making between one hundred and one hundred twenty thousand a year. You know this was three years in and this was the land was quite sloped and like I say just a lot of strikes against them but it just was reinforcing to me that you know a lot of it is just gumption and just doing it. So next from there we kind of this was a little bit off the beaten track but we went to Brooklyn Grange and probably many of you have seen pictures of you know downtown New York with with these gardens on the roof of these buildings they actually have over two acres of gardens on two different rooftops. And. They're making about six dollars a square foot on these rooftops. So two acres is you know eighty thousand square feet proximately very interesting you know of course it wasn't our idea of gardening but we enjoyed going there that they do a lot with micro greens that's something we saw over and over at these farms lot of micro greens going on there's there's good money to be made there more micro greens. This was the view from their garden looking down. But it was really neat to see this piece of green. In this city. You know that's looking over to Manhattan and it's quite a view of a city but to just see this low. Well bit of green space there was really fun and and there were chefs coming up. The elevator while we were there you know from local restaurants coming up to see hey what do you got this week you know we want to do a special on this and so it was. Again we're not advocating urban gardening but I think there's there's a place for it and we'll talk a little bit more about that later on. This was their washing area. And they would wash it and then put it in the tub. There to mix it you see the washing machine there that's something I think every farm we went to has a modified washing machine for spinning your salad greens. It's the best thing out there right now although Jonathan's working on trying to develop a dedicated commercial. But you just take a washing machine and just rip out the electronics and do a simple on off switch to the spin cycle and we've done it and it's great. Here's Ben Flannery who's the main guy in charge of Brooklyn Grange and one of his farmers. Now from there you know we spent. I don't know three hours in the city and that was about three hours too much. We headed out of out of New York and went upstate this. This is actually in the Catskill Mountains of New York this farm. Blew us away. This is called never sink farm. Never sink. It's actually it's kind of a neat name for a farm. But the reason it's named that is because it's on the never sink river and near the town of never sink so that's where they got the name but this guy. Conor Crick more here he is looking at Jonathan's Harvester he one thing I'll say about him that that's really impressive to me he is willing to invest in anything that he thinks is going to make his far more profitable. So he invests the money and if he likes it. He keeps it if he does it. He tosses it. You know he is really into. Hey what is going to make my farm more efficient and a good illustration of this is that he bought two of the first ten harvesters that Jonathan sold. The For those of you who don't know this that green thing is is called the quick cut Greens are history. My son manufactures those and it's actually revolutionizing small farms. But anyway he bought two of the very first ones that were ever made and he's been using them ever since and then he bought a new one from us here just to have the latest model. But Connor cricket more is earning over four hundred thousand dollars on an acre and a half and he believes he can get it up to five hundred thousand. This is with no tractor he doesn't even own a tractor. And he has a B.C.'s but he doesn't use it. So it's all hand tools an acre and a half. And it's unbelievable. It's. It's the most the most perfect farm we've ever been to. You had to look really really hard to find weeds. He's got two movable hoop houses. You can see the track there probably went too fast. He it's just the macula it you won't find a rock or a weed. Well you have to look really hard to find it. We in his farm here he is discussing some of his tools. We're I've got a short video clip of this this thing in front here this orange thing is a paper pot transplants or have any of you seen or heard of those. That is really revolutionizing a lot of small farms he's using it quite a bit. It's it's kind of expensive. I mean it's actually ridiculously expensive that that flimsy little thing there costs like over a thousand dollars. And then you have to buy these special paper pots. But this is this is stuff. I'm trying to remember. Do you remember what that was boys. How many people does he have working when we were there. He only had two to helping him. But I think maybe in the busiest season he may have four. Besides his wife. He's got twins that are like three or four years old so his wife's kind of otherwise occupied but this guy came straight out of the city six years ago in six years from he was like a computer programmer. Although other places I've read something about Chef. But anyway what he told us he was in computer programming so in six years he's taken raw land and made this incredibly productive farm. OK here's a video. How my going to do that is can you press the button for the video. This is how a paper pot transplant or works. So you just pull it along like that and you can imagine. That's his little daughter there but you can you can transplant hundreds of transplants per minute by yourself. So if you think about. Even if you're fast transplanting by hand you know this this can really really speed things up. It's called a paper pot transplant or they came out of Japan Johnnie's sells them now. We're going to talk more about resources later on because I feel like the best thing I can do for you all is point you in the right direction of resources. OK There we go. This is a little twelve inch wide flame Wieder that he. He manufactured kind of modified. And he does his aisles with that. Which is kind of neat. He's quite innovative what's going on. Oh no. Somebody help me stop it. Sorry this is really awkward. Those are some amazing brussel sprouts right there. Can you go back. We kind of went through a lot of pictures there. Yeah just keep going back. This is all Coleman's farm keep going wait no we're going the wrong way here this is going forward. Well there is the slide show you just saw so. Yeah you know. Sorry about that I didn't see we were going the wrong way and Phil. Can you just I have a very strained relationship with technology. So anyway what else can I tell you about Conor Crick more. This is another great example to me of his farm he had he had a bunch of raspberries in full bearing you know this was the end of September and they were I mean they were well loaded. He said we're not even picking them can't make enough money on them. You know and I'm thinking man raspberries. You know this is great but he doesn't he doesn't sell anything that can't make him at least one hundred dollars an hour in harvest and washing you know pope. Well they call it pick pack and wash but it's really pick wash and pack. So that's the way he kind of judges things if he can't make a hundred dollars an hour doing that part. Then he doesn't he just abandons the crop. He's just super OK let's see if this is going to work now all combined so you know. So for example radishes you know harvesting I'm bunching I'm washing I'm getting him ready for market. You know he's got it. He figures you know I can do this. Many bunches in an hour and I can sell them for this much. And it's got to be at least one hundred dollars an hour. Now you know again. Granted he's got probably the highest end market in the country. You know he's selling at a couple farmers' markets in Westchester County which if you know that area that's a very upscale suburb of New York City and then the other beautiful thing is he sells to sort of restaurants high end restaurants in New York. But another farmer takes it in he's a couple hours out of New York. So he doesn't have to commute into New York which is amazing. OK. He he's very. Immaculate and very particular and so he he marks the corners of all his beds with these wooden surveyor stakes and he runs string. And you know does his seating and everything to the string. Which a lot of other growers will tell you. And there's truth to it you know that's not making you money getting your roads straight. But. You know again I think. You know Mrs White talks about our gardens and our farms being an object lesson of what the Lord wants to do in our hearts. So I think it's important for our farms to look neat and orderly and weed free. You know we're not there yet but we're working on it. OK this is just some of his beds. I think here what was maybe turnips. But the next picture I think you know he says people come there and they say You're so lucky that you don't have rocks. Oh no it's going again. Hey can you stop it. Is there another click or OK go back a little further. Almost There we go. You may maybe you're just going to have to do it back there just so next picture. So this is one of his beds he said we make our own luck around here. You know you can imagine all that rock out of one bed. So the point is the first few years. They they really worked hard but the beauty is now. He's working five days a week he's taking two days off and quitting at five o'clock in the after. Noon. It's unbelievable. You know that they have gotten their systems down to the point that they are working eight hour days five days a week. Incredible. OK let's keep going. You know we're going to have to hurry so these are just more pictures of his farm keep going. This is some lettuce he just does that was an example of how he just pulled out his summer crops and you know being movable he moved it over the lettuce there. This was just kind of a neat way to travel less T. posts with just P.V.C. T. on top and then your electrical conduit. I think the next picture. Yeah he had some some peas growing there. They had a couple of these these electric golf carts. That they used he said they used to have four wheelers but the apprentices would they drove too fast. So these prices so fast. This is one of his big greenhouses just a macula OK let's keep going. He had a couple of these greens machines now this is a commercial spinner. But they're like three thousand dollars apiece and people who've used them compared to a washing machine say a washing machine does a better job. And this was a route crop cleaner. You just bunch. You know you have your carrots or whatever and you run them through that spins. So he's investing a lot of money. You know he's making a lot of money but he's investing a lot. Let's keep going. This is the. This is something I haven't seen anywhere else. You know Johnny sells a big bed roller that's kind of awkward to carry around but this is he gets this off. Amazon it's for concrete work. Anybody who's worked with concrete. But it's something he can carry with one hand he uses the four row seat or so he carries that with one hand in this role or with the other he rolls his beds before and after seating them. With this. Ok this. I thought was neat because the dark area that's just been watered that morning he harvested a root of that and it's now replanted I think it was and spin a judge. So his beds are never empty for more than a few hours. That's how intensive He is very organized with this tools. OK let's just keep going. This was his starter house and can we go back one picture. OK. Notice that these these tables roll back and forth. So you can make your aisle where you need to but then you can push them together so it's a much more efficient way to use your space. You just have one aisle that can move. Do you understand what I'm saying. And so it's very efficient he's got the overhead hose for watering and then I think the next picture also shows now this is something we have which we really love a trolley and in your greenhouse your starter house for moving trays around. You know rather than carrying two by hand. You can ours you can put twelve on. And it's. Saves a lot of time you know it's the little efficiencies that start making you really profitable. OK let's keep going. We're going to run out of time this was his delivery vehicle and he had this ramp screwed on there. You know it was optioned he had two Mercedes Benz delivery vans like this. These are they're neat because they have five seater and then it has the room in the back four so it's kind of a combination. You know most delivery vehicles are just like a two seater but anyway a lot of farms a lot of these small farms had these Mercedes vans. OK And this is actually just a few pictures of Pleasant Valley Farm in our Gallup New York the Arnolds they're doing amazing things but it was they're doing like five acres. So it was a little big for our liking. But I wanted to this is a video can you play this. This is called a bubbler and this is the way they're washing greens and now you just dump them in there. And it. It's gentle run it one more time it gently stirs the greens around in the dirt drops off and basically I'll show you a picture. Later on it jams farm of how it's made you know with the P.V.C. pipe but it's just like a hot. You know air blower or whatever. OK So this is they had amazing bras because I mean we can't do anything like that in Tennessee. You know this. Upstate New York. We didn't spend a lot of time there. Just because it wasn't the model we were really looking for you know we like the acre and a half model and this is Elliot Coleman's farm and I'm sure most of you have heard of him. If you haven't you need to he's kind of the the father grandfather of the small farm movement. He does quite a bit with chickens and these were some some winter kale. Variety if you want to know I can have it written down afterwards I don't remember it off the top of my head but he was able to harvest some kayo keeps growing through the winter bras and Nate Berkus strain. Where is the bra Soko olor a CA which is like your standard curly kale doesn't keep growing so well in the winter and A.P. US The Russian calles we've got somebody from Russia red and white russian and this was some variation of that this was a neat tool that he was generous enough to give us one of his prototypes but I think this is going to be in Johnny's it's a new wire Wieder and we really like it but it's got interchangeable heads just a simple kind of bolts you know different size heads. So you can have one tool with multiple sized heads and it works really well on nice nicely prepared soil. He's you know he's still he's not just about making money because this is you know what this is artichokes. You can't make a lot. The money on artichokes but you know he's he he likes growing these different things. He had the best transplants and this is a plug for soil blocks the lot of you know we're old school we still use oil blocks. They're not the most efficient way to do transplants. But I didn't see any other farm with transplants that look like this. And so to me it was just a reminder that soil blogs I think make the healthiest transplants because they all use the same mix they're using the Vermont compost for V. I think it's called Mixed potting mix leaks. OK let's keep going. This was over wintered onions carrots. His farm is just you know he's such an innovator. He's like a little kid when you go there. He's wanting to show you all his latest things he's been fooling with and. He's got his discard pile outside his shop. And this is like Thomas Edison. So this is some intensive again this is the end of September first of October this is mains so it kind of gives you an idea of where he's at there. His wife is doing a lot of flowers this year. Keep going if you get growing from market magazine the latest issue. She has an article had a whole hoop house full of Dolly as it was amazing credible. So from there we went up to Quebec. And Jonathan was showing this Micra Green's operation new Harvester. He had come up with for micro greens. So they were doing it on a fairly large scale. This is a video you can. It's one of the best videos but we got so we were doing was thirteen or seventeen trays a minute something like that we had it. They were quite impressed. There they are anxious to order one this was just the prototype. Then from there we went to J.M. as Farmer have you all heard of Ford. If you haven't. He's another one you need to know about he's written a book called The market gardener. This is the closest thing that is out there in my opinion on the handbook for small scale agriculture he gets into lots of detail. And it's quite amazing. He's so I should back up and say Elliott Coleman is he keeps experiment with his seasons and he does he was doing your round and making about one hundred fifty thousand and eight current a half but you know you having like six employees so he was only netting like thirty thousand and he said you know that's too much work for that. And so now they're there they're growing or I should say they're marketing October through June. And doing kind of the off season when stuff isn't growing so fast they can basically do it with two people and they're there grossing around one hundred thousand but netting sixty something else. So even though they're not making as much because their labor costs are lower. They're able to to come away with more. And so they were excited about that. OK so this. We're going to kind of go through this quick J.M. in the last couple of years is working for a Canadian billionaire and running a farm trying to to scale up his model his model for those of you who haven't read the book is an acre and a half and. He's he's grossing right around one hundred fifty thousand. But again doing it very you know five days a week very balanced I would say. And so you know this book came out the market garden and got a lot of people excited about market gardening small farming. You know. Wow You know we can. And he's he's grossing I mean he's netting almost half of that around seventy thousand for he and his wife often acre and a half but this is scaling up and so a lot of this this guy this billionaire. You know money is not an issue obviously and so this is there's a lot of high tech stuff that. I wouldn't wouldn't fool with but this we really like this. Set up for irrigation it's wobblers all the farms we went to are using scent injure Wobblers. And you've got these steaks and then they just plug into your main line. You just use a drip. Punch punch a hole and then there's a little sleeve that stays in there and then it pops into that. So you can easily move it. And so we're going to I hope it's going to work for us this next year. Using that system. Lot cheaper than buying sprinklers thing and. Here we are in one of his fields of what was one mustard carrots lots of carrots these hoop houses. Well they weren't who pounds they were greenhouses I think you know like fifty thousand apiece or something just way over kill but growing lots of lettuce. Eggplant five feet six feet tall is quite amazing. OK let's keep going. Joshua Now here's the way we want to see that bubble or this is his bubble or. Just simple P.V.C. pipe with a bunch of holes drilled in it and like I say you hook it up to some kind of air pump and that's the way everybody's going you know it eliminates the triple washing and handling it so much. You just dump it in there. Let it bubble awhile skim it off put it in yours dinner and you're good to go. OK We've got the he's done a lot with farm scaping He's got fifty forty by one hundred foot plots. So that's five acres of intensive growing. But between each plot was this area's with NATURAL FARMS scaping oh hey this is looking good. And. Yeah just he's got tarps for each of his sections so he doesn't have to move tarps around silent tarps maybe some of you don't know about those. Yeah I don't I won't talk about him right now but it's a great way to manage we as well as some other things. OK let's keep going. He he uses eighteen inch pathways. So he can't use a standard quick hoop. So he he combines two pieces of metal conduit and makes him a little wider and then he also runs the string as you can see there to give some some added stability and is doing a lot with those. He does an amazing job with these are all heirloom tomatoes. Now the last farm we visited we went from from Quebec over and DE on through Indiana and went to bin Hartman's farm Goshen Indiana the lane farm. That's another book. If you haven't heard of it. This is a great book for market gardeners. It's called The Lean farm and it's subtitled how to minimize waste increase efficiency and to maximize value and profits with less work just sell it to you right there. These books. We will have at Agra is selling in the back so if you want to get any of these we have them on site all the books we recommend. OK I know we're right about out of time. Now Ben is using a little different system more traditional but this is a neat twist he's got these little P.V.C. things with fish netting in it and he puts one on the bottom. And then dumps is greens in and then puts another one on top. So then he can just lift them out put them in the next sink you know do a few rinse is like that. And then he dumps some next line. Joshua. He dumps some He's kind of manuf made this little set up. He's got these big bins underneath with bunches a holes drilled in it so he can just dump it in there and then take that bin and put it in his washing machine and spin it and then he's showing us here he actually uses a he sealer you know he they weigh the Greens and seal the packet. With the heat sealer and he feels like that's faster then twisty ties or whatever. And this is some of his lane systems that you're no pictures of what a place is supposed to look like. So one apprentice knows without having to go through you need to do this in this in this. This is what it's supposed to look like at the end of the day. Very efficient. Again this is another simple example. This is for root washing they decided hey let's not have legs because legs on a table you gotta clean around you know so they just suspended it and it's so much easier to clean up afterwards. OK We've got a we're out of time you know again everything organized. He's big into paper transplanting In fact he's transplanting salad mix with this paper pot transplant or he's basically gone totally to using the paper. And he is doing. He's got two young boys. He's working thirty hours a week on the farm. He's got one helper that comes in a couple afternoons a week. I think he's making about. Between ninety and one hundred thousand. Than thirty hours a week. It's less than an acre between a half acre and an acre and you know netting over fifty percent because his overhead is low. These are some of his beds the other unique thing with Ben is he uses a tractor. A little boat a tractor with with the wheels on a thirty inch spacing. So he's got his same thirty inch beds twelve inch pathways but he's mechanized which is really. I think going to be a wave of the future some kale that have been growing all summer tomatoes. Here's his under cutter bar he said this is the best tool on his farm he runs that down a bed to loosen his carrots beets radishes any kind of a root crop garlic. And you know it just loosens the soil runs under it and makes it really simple to harvest. OK I think that's about it is that it. Joshua. OK Well we did pretty good. So again this was a quick overview but just showing you some of the innovations that are going on in small farming just to kind of cap it. Recapped these are all you know acre and a half or less they're all you know making at least one hundred thousand dollars per acre they're focusing on salad greens is a big thing. Sal Innova lettuce. If you don't know about salad over the lettuce they're all using it for lettuce mix rather than seeding baby. Mix. We've done it this winter and it's amazing. We've gotten so many positive comments on Sal and over it. You can recount it multiple times. Sal in Nov it's only available from Johnny's it's a little bit expensive. There's a little bit of controversy over it because it's a plant protected variety which a lot of purists are having a hard time with but the bottom. Well you know I don't think technically you're supposed to save the seed you know if you're doing it for home use. You could probably get away with it but there's some exciting high Mowen has some new lettuce is coming out this year they're calling it one cut but I talked to them on high moaning and they said it works the same basically Salah Nova. Gives you a head of baby leaves rather than just you know use the lettuce the head the leaves get big but it's all baby leaves so you cut it and you've got all this really high quality salad mix it's quite amazing this media was brought to you by audio for years a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about the universe or if you would like to listen to more sermons lead to visit W W W audio or.

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