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Defeat or Victory?

Daniel Pel

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Daniel Pel

Speaker/Director of Living Water, Norway

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  • May 26, 2016
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Gracious Heavenly Father we thank you for this day that we've had so far we thank you for the opportunity to. To come together as a group and study your word Lord we desire to know you better I believe that this is something. That we all want to come closer to you to experience your power to get to know really who you are and to reflect you to a world around us so we pray that you will guide us now in this time together Lord as we look at the Book of Romans then as we look at the gospel on display pray that it may not just be a theory that we will be looking at but in. An experience with you that we will all have we think you in Jesus name Amen. Or right. The seminar title that was given to me is defeat or victory question mark and I think when I got that title and I was asked to speak on this topic of what it means to surrender ourselves to Christ what it means to live in Christ. I prayed about it and pretty much immediately my thoughts went to to The Book of Romans which is one of my favorite topics to present. I've been teaching at different Bible schools over the years and normally this is something that we do in like a week we were there in Africa and we did it then yeah so it's so it's actually many hours that we go through the book of Romans of course here we have limited time but what I want to do is and it's going to be also interactive if you want to get kind of the big picture the big overview of the first half portion of the book of Romans or the first eight chapters because what Paul does in Romans chapter one to Chapter eight is he gives us a picture of the gas for what it means to come to Christ and it's just it's just fascinating. And so this will be our specific. What we're what we're going to focus on it will be Romans chapter one chapter eight. But before we before we get there. I want to share with you a quote that I just think fits very well with what going to look at in the book of Romans and also fits well with the title of the seminar which is defeat or victory question mark and this quote is quite well known I believe it will be known to a number of you and that is from the book steps to Christ page forty seven steps to Christ page forty seven and the chapter it is Chapter five and the chapter title is consecration and listen to what it says here as I as I start reading I believe many of you will be like are heard that quote for it. I'm not sure about that page forty seven but yeah should be easy to find when you go to that page at least. Says many are inquiring how am I to make the surrender of myself to God That's the question how do we surrender ourselves to God and then it says you desire to give yourself to him but you are weak in moral power in slavery to doubts and control by the habits of your life of sin your promises and resolutions are like ropes of sand now I think that that's something that we can all relate to we want to surrender our lives to Christ we want to give ourselves to have but we also see that our lives are controlled by you know the spiritual in the flesh is weak is controlled by sins and experiences that we've had in the past and you make these resolutions maybe you know these these new year's resolutions OK and generally comes around I'm going to live like this I'm going to do this but many times. The new year's resolutions they're more like good ideas then really a power that fills the life and because your resolutions do not hold they're like ropes of sand it's like the slipping the sand that slips between your fingers you start wondering you know is this is this thing for real like can I really this God really is going to be really going to accept me man when I fail Him so many times and the quote goes on to say. You cannot control your thoughts your impulses or your affections the knowledge of your broken promises and forfeited pledges weakens your confidence in your own sincerity and causes you to feel that God cannot accept you this is this is when I when I when I read this I think it to myself wow what a description of what we what we've all gone through or are or are going through this this thing that I want to surrender myself to God I want to have victory in my life my spirit as well and my mind as well laying my heart is whirling I want to do all of this but then where do I find the strength to do it and then when I fail the knowledge of this failure and you know it leads very often into despair Well you know does this work at all I've tried it so many times I've made this resolution I'm going to get up early in the morning and study my Bible I've made this resolution I'm not going to fall into using my time in this particular thing that I know is drawing me away from Christ and so we have these resolutions but many times it's like it's like it's good description here it's like ropes of sanest like sand and slipping through the fingers and you know and then you start questioning your own sincerity like is this real like what's going on I've made these resolutions over and over again I'm not able to keep them and and you have and this leads to despair it says like yeah and many people they will either walk out or they'll just continue to make new resolutions which. Continue to fail but then it goes on to say the. This is now the second part of this of this quote that I wanted to share it says but you need not despair so and now comes like OK what do we then need what you need to understand. Is the true force of the will she says and steps the crisis of the books have surprised what you need to know is the power of the well the force of the wealth she goes on to describe what that is this is the governing power in the nature of man the power of decision or choice so the power of the wills the power to decide everything depends. On the right action of the well so this is becomes extremely important the power of choice God as God has given to men it is theirs to exercise you cannot change your heart you cannot of yourself give to God its affections but you can choose to serve Him you can give him your will and He will then work in you to will and to do according to HIS good pleasure thus your whole nature will be brought under the control of the Spirit of Christ your affections will be centered upon him your thoughts will be in harmony with him so this is this quote is kind of what we want to spend our time on as we're going to look at the Book of Romans because this quote is talking about the problem and the solution the problem is what the problem is that you know our commitments don't hold we want to do what is right but we can't do it we feel that we failed God again and again and we're allowed to despair that's really the problem that she just described there and then the solution is it's all about the power of the well the power of choice making decisions to connect yourself with a source of power that is not inside of yourself but is outside of yourself that comes from Christ that's kind of the foundation but we're going to kind of look at how this works out practically in our lives and throughout the book of Romans I think will get some answers to this. To this question of how do you surrender yourself to Christ and how does this victory really. Work so. What I'm going to do. Is I'm going to give a little bit of an overview. Of the book of Romans the first eight chapters and after I've done that after I've given you kind of the big picture it's kind of like we're flying over you know you can if you look at Forest or you want to know about a forest you can do two things you can walk through the forest and you see the details or you can fly over and you have a very different picture of the forest so in Scripture you have kind of the you can you can study verse by verse it's kind of like looking at the details or you can try to get the big picture and both are important and we're going to do first is we're going to get the big picture of Romans chapter one to eight this is the content that we're looking at here this afternoon and then afterwards I'm going to group you up in groups and then I'll give each of you each group will will get a portion of those first eight chapters and then you'll discuss it and I have some discussion questions that will help and then afterwards it will be the opportunity for each group to present what they have found in these chapters so that we together and then we'll kind of close off our time with some evaluation and and questions that you might have about what we've done OK. OK So Romans Turn to Romans chapter one. Romans chapter one. Who was the Arthur of the book of Romans. Paul right the Apostle Paul wrote the book of Romans as you know a lot of the books that we have in the New Testament are really ladders that were written a big portion of the New Testament were letters that were written by Paul to various destinations and so you know we look at it as books in the Bible but you can really just think of it as a latter. You know so you have the book of a fish and a ladder to the church of AFA service the city of aphasic us and so if you were in the city of addresses in those days you would get this letter it was written by Paul you would open it up and they would read it in front of the congregation and so this was this became later known as the New Testament became part of our Bibles but originally you could just think of it as a letter that was written to F.S.S. and so you have the book of Galatians was written to the area of which was kind of a common number of churches in a province and then you have you know first and second Corinthians were letters written to the church at Corinth they're two letters were written there and so the Book of Romans was a church it was a letter written to which church in Rome now if I just say without any introduction here or you know you don't know where we're going with this seminar if I just say what are your first thoughts when I say the Church of Rome. Just give me some some some some words that come to your mind pagan OK what else. Papacy Yes. Persecution very good. Exactly these are kind of like the connotations that we have when we hear the Church of Rome we think of Catholicism we think of the traditions that are coming to the church we think of the Dark Ages persecution but actually before all of that. We have the letter that Paul wrote to the first believers in Rome before there was even a Catholic Church right because what we're talking about here the Book of Romans was written in the first century so this is way before we have you know the merger of paganism and Christianity in the days of Constantine This is way before any pope came on the scene so we're talking here about first century. And when Paul Minn of stirred in the world at that time. It was Rome was really the capital of the world you could say because Rome was the capital of the pagan Roman Empire in which Paul ministered and wherever he traveled was really in the Roman Empire where he was working you know Asia Minor what we know today is Turkey where you look at Greece and all these really areas where you look at the trips that Paul took the missionary journeys that he took this is in the Roman Empire and so for Paul he had in his mind like I need to reach the metropolitan city of this empire I mean if I can get if I can present the truth there then where is it going to go it's going to spread like a fire if we want to make an impact in. In England we need to make an impact in London right now some people disagree about. But this really the capital right from there the influence press and and so strategically. When you want to share the gospel you'll be looking at Centers of Influence places where the Gospel can spread Now think about this of all the letters that Paul wrote in The New Testament each one of them is important each one of them has its place but I think in a sense we're looking here at a very important one because this was the epicenter of influence Rome So what are you going to write to Rome of all the things that you can write to Rome What is the most important that surely will make its way all across the empire will make its way into many homes and what Paul decides to do is give the most beautiful explicit systematic beautiful expression of the Gospel in Jesus Christ that's what he does in the book of Romans as powerful as beautiful he as he does it in other books but but more than any other book in the book of Romans he gives this beautiful portrayal of what the Gospel really is all about. And so this book was written in the first century by Paul to the believers in Rome. Already in the first chapter he indicates that he wants to. So he has not been to Rome at the time that he writes this he did later come to Rome as you might remember basically that was the last journey he took and he was already. A captive at that time and so he comes to Rome and he spent the last couple of years there before he was martyred but this is even previous to that he's writing to them because he's tells us in chapter one about his desire to visit them if you look at verse eleven in chapter one it says for I long to see you that I may that I may impart to you some spiritual gift so that you may be established that is that I may be encouraged together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me so he's talking about his desire to come to them and to impart this. This spiritual gift now in chapter one Romans chapter one is is an introduction of the book it is a greeting in the first verses then he expresses his desire to visit Rome and then come probably the two most known verses in the book of Romans which basically set up the foundation for the rest of the book and that is verse sixteen and seventeen now I am quite sure that you have that some of you know this by heart even this is these are well known verses I read them for at Romans one verse sixteen and seventeen for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes for the Jews first and also for the Greek for in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith as it is written The just shall live by faith so that is basically also the the we can call it the accu of the Reformation this is the message of the Reformation right the just shall live by faith by the way Martin Luther the many years later after. This was written. The the whole the whole focus of the Reformation was basically coming back to this pivotal truth that righteousness comes by faith the just shall live by faith remember a lot of works had come into it through Catholicism and. Martin Luther himself being a monk a Roman Catholic. Was was sad to see his own church in this condition and as he is wrestling with God what to do next he received these words the Spirit of God spoke these very words to him and the very foundation of the of the Reformation upon which the Reformation really took a leap forward was exactly these verses in the book of Romans Chapter one Verse sixteen seventeen The just shall live by faith so you see how the book of Romans has influenced early Christianity in the first century you see how this influenced the Reformation and also our own history our seventh day adventists you might be familiar with the year eight hundred eighty eight or eighty Jones an easier way going there also presented at a general conference session the importance of righteousness by faith also again rooted in the book of Romans very interesting so the Book of Romans first century reformation and even our own history as average people has played a very important role in our understanding of how this works were surrendering the will to Christ how this works with living by faith so then basically from verse eighteen to verse thirty two in Romans chapter one. Paul goes into describing these what it basically describes the. Those that have rejected this Gospel and the consequences of that. In other words he gives us a picture of. What sin leads to what unrighteousness leads to and he goes into a pretty detailed list of some of the. Various horrific behavioral patterns that come out of distancing yourself from the Gospel or moving away from from God he's really he's really picturing the problem before he comes with the solution. Romans chapter one is really a picture of the problem of sand but then you come to Romans chapter two and I'm just doing kind of a quick look at the first chapters now you come to chapter two and then what he doesn't Chapter two is he makes a little transition and he starts talking about the problem amongst the juice whereas in chapter one he's talking and Lady you have the opportunity in your groups to read these chapters through but I'm just giving you an overview now so in chapter one he says OK he greets the believers in Rome he says about his desire to come to them and then he portrays the problem of sand in those that deny God But then in Chapter two he goes into describing the problem of sin amongst the believers in other words the the Jews at that in that day and he describes in Chapter two quite elaborately the problem amongst the Jews in their rejection of the gospel and he says you know you praise yourself because you're a child of Abraham and you praise yourself because of your traditions and your customs and because you're circumcised all these kind of things but he says this in reality doesn't mean anything if you are not changed from the inside he talks about the inward change that is needed so very interesting talks about the problem among the Gentiles and then he goes right into the problem amongst the Jews in chapter two and then in chapter three he really takes this perspective even it's like he's scope it's like taking a step back and even looking at a larger scope of the problem as he basically portrays the human problem in general. Doesn't matter who you are doesn't matter whether you're religious or not doesn't matter whether whether you're a Jew or not doesn't matter you know where you come from what your background is what your upbringing is we all have a problem and that problem is really summarized in Romans chapter three and verse twenty three and this is a verse that I'm sure all of you have heard it says for all have sinned Can you finish the verse. Right and come short of the glory of God not some have sinned or most have sinned but all so he's he's again dealing with the problem before he comes to the solution and this is so crucial and in pivotal because if you don't if you don't deal with the problem first then the solution is not going to be appreciated in the same way we must understand what we're in in order to see the need of salvation and appreciation for salvation so that's Romans chapter one two and three and then we come to Romans chapter four and if I would summarize Romans Chapter four it's really an illustration of justification by faith and we read a little bit this morning actually in my worship talk a little bit of Romans Chapter four who is on the splay in Romans for what character is Paul using to illustrate justification by faith in Romans four you remember Abraham right. So he uses Abraham and the experience of Abraham to illustrate what it means to be justified to be to to be righteous by faith OK And we're going to look more at the depth of that in a bet but it's a powerful and beautiful chapter. Where we come to Romans Chapter five and Romans Chapter five is basically these this is this comparison it's a comparison chapter a comparison between. Adam the first human being and Christ which is also called the second Adam so we have a. Peris in Romans five between Adam the first human being and Jesus our Savior and what Paul does just it's just marvelous how he does this I'm just amazed every time I read it as he tells us what we get through Adam naturally what comes through Adam through the fall right mankind fell and we are basically descendants from Adam so what we get through this but then what we can get by believing and having faith in Jesus. It's almost like you know later the Book of Romans in Chapter eight Paul talks about that we are adopted. We become sons and daughters of God by adoption and if you apply that adoption principle to Romans five it's like naturally we're part of the family of Adam but by faith were adopted into a new family you know and and we start behaving like in faith we start in part part taking from this new family and behaving like we are part of this new family and that is like Christ and will look at the look at the details of that in a bit as well. But then Romans Chapter six so we move now again Romans Chapter one The problem of unbelievers Romans Chapter two The problem is this thing amongst believers Romans Chapter three The problem of sin corporately amongst all human beings Romans for justification by faith illustrated by Abraham Romans Chapter five belonging Do we were in Adam but how do we now become in Christ we become part of a new family then Romans Chapter six. Romans Chapter sixteen else with the topic of dying to self. Fascinating beautifully described him to illustrate of passages one baptism as being a symbol of dying to self and then secondly this illustration of being a servant is a servant of sinner. Servant to Christ and. Again we'll look more at the details in just a bit but Roman six. Once you have been justified by faith once you have now decided to belong to the family of Christ there's something that starts happening within you. And that is that there is can you can only serve one master right so now self must be removed Christ must take the place dying to self so that Christ can abide within us and then we come to what I really look forward to get into is Romans seven for a long time I was super frustrated by Romans have I read it again and again especially the beginning the first six verse I thought What on earth is Paul talking about. A couple of years ago I was asked this is quite a while ago eight years ago or something I think was two thousand and eight I was asked to speak at a conference in a youth conference in Denmark and I was going to speak on the book of Romans and there was particular around that time that my love for the book of Romans was really increasing and I was handed a book by written by E.J. wagon their lessons on The Book of Romans it was he goes basically chapter by chapter through the book of Romans and so as I was reading this I was very inspired particularly when I came to Romans Chapter seven because this this passage that had for a long time kind of frustrated me and I was having a difficulty kind of grasping what Paul was saying suddenly became very plain through through that book as I lot I look forward to share to share that with you because maybe you've been struggling yourself with what is Paul talking about in Romans seven so we'll get to that but Romans seven is a description of the problem of what happens when it's actually exactly what we were reading in the quote earlier in the beginning you want to do what is right the spirit is willing but the flash is weak and what has to happen before kind of live in that in that situation very many times. We live kind of in this in this in this in this world where we want to do what is right but the flesh is weak and we we find that our resolutions are like the ropes of sand and we lose confidence in ourselves because of failed promises and we are led into despair and we wonder like will ever come out of this Romans seven deals exactly with with that tension of living in that space but then we come to the end of Romans seven and we're led into Romans eight Paul presents How do we come out of that space because really I don't want to live my life like that you know some people say by the way that Romans seven is the is the converted man and that's that's how you can live so Jesus comes. Pretty pathetic if you read Romans seven you're like oh is that how we is that what we have to be content with is that the life we have to live now as you come to Romans eight you'll see that Romans eight is that is the Spirit filled life it's really like this this is what God desires for us to be filled with the spirit to walk in the spirit so and that's kind of where we want to be heading with our workshop this afternoon to end right there in Romans eight. There was once the song that was written by someone I don't remember who it was but it talks about the song in the lyrics were something like this I want to live my life in Romans eight. And in Romans a verse one you know there is there for now no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus who do not walk according to flash but walking according to the spirit that's where I want to live my life I want to live my life in Romans seven how to live my life in Romans eight so how do we get our lives into Romans eight to that space so again very quickly Romans Chapter one The problem of Sen Romans chapter two the problem of sin amongst the believers as well Romans three the problem of sin again universally and then Romans four so he deals really three whole chapters with the problem because this needs to be established before you can see the beauty of the solution you know. The stars shine brightest when it is dark around you so and then Romans for justification by faith you know this is what it means to be justified by faith and then out of that justification by faith comes this this beautiful understanding of belonging Romans Chapter five and out of that beautiful understanding of belonging becomes a deeper experience of dying to self to make place for Jesus Romans sex and then Romans seven then when you're living in that tension of wanting to do what is right but not finding the power to do it what do you need to do and then finally Romans eight walking in the spirit OK. What we're going to do is I think now we're going to we're going to I'm going to divide them into groups and we will go more a comment more on the chapters as we get along but we're going to do something a little bit interactive Now let's see how many people do we have here we have one two three four five six seven eight ten. OK So we have around fifteen sixteen people I think will make. I think will make four groups OK I'll make four groups. So I'll give you a number of so one two three four one two three four one two three four one two three OK so if you can gather together in a group. In a moment so just remember your number and that I'm going to give I'm going to give number group number one. You're going to deal with the problem of sin and Romans one two and three so you're going to you know you're going to read that as a group and and write down what what what strikes you most from those chapters What do you think is the main theme of it what is Paul trying to communicate through it. Basically before we go any further. I don't know if you have paper but could you could you share that around. And if someone needs to panic and take a pen as well if you're a have paper that's fine but if not then there's paper and pen there. But Group one will deal with Romans one two and three. So so if you have number one you can write that down in the paper Romans one two and three that will be that will be your content. Group number two will look at Romans four and five about justification and belonging. Group number three will deal with Roman six and seven the dying to self. And then Romans four will deal with Romans eight OK So this is not even was that. You are sorry what I say are sorry group for here group for Romans eight so this is not it's not evenly divided incompetent but it is evenly divided in and kind of theme wise so that's why the first group gets three chapters in the last one chapter but content wise this will make more sense to divide it this way so that's why I chose to do it this way so we're going to do. If you all get now if you have paper and Pan I want you to write down three questions that are going to be the group questions OK no matter what chapter you're going to do these will be the three things that you want to look at OK so you can write these down. OK So number one. Group question number one what process of salvation is Paul describing in these chapters or this chapter. What process of selve ation is Paul describing in these chapters I've given away a little bit already but I want you to further discuss this as a group and I'm sure you can come up with more than what I said. Describing Yeah yeah what processes what process of salvation is Paul describing. In these chapters and then Question number two. What key truths are being taught in these chapters. What key truths are being taught in these chapters. And then third and last question. How can we apply these truths to our own experience today how can we apply these truths to our own experience today OK. So. Yeah when you have written that down. Give you a moment to do that then we will will divide into groups and maybe it's the easiest that you just take a table. That you sit around a table with the number they gave you and then we'll use about let's say about twenty minutes or so till four o'clock. And and then after that we'll take a break and then we'll gather together again and we'll will share what we found so twenty minutes get together with your number and look at these three questions and the chapters that I gave you OK. All right well I hope you enjoyed that session. And I look forward to see what you've come to so what we're going to do is we'll basically just take the groups in their order so that we get also again this this big picture of of the book of Romans so we'll start with group one on Romans one two and three and I'll just let you present it in the way that you would like to present it whether it's one person or the whole group that you do that you would like and and they will give a little bit of opportunity to. To look a bit more closer added But yeah go for a recruit number one. These kind of group active. He's a really great because even you know I'm just learning as I'm listening to you guys so it's great to be able to share thoughts in this way especially that opening thought I really liked where you said. That you know Abraham was the heir of righteousness and you know in order to be heir someone needs to die while they're just wow I never thought of that before so great great thoughts so you're seeing the progression here right Romans one two three problem of sin Romans for justification by faith Romans five this belonging aspect we move from the family of Adam to the family of Christ I heard another illustration. A number of years ago that I thought very helpful in connection with Romans five you know. It's quite common nowadays with international adoptions and what happens in an international adoption is that a child will come usually from an impoverished area in the world and then will be adopted by a family where you know there is abundant of supply and. What happens in some of these cases not just in one but this has been in a number of cases the seen this unfold itself is that the child coming into this new situation will not immediately adapt but in the beginning will actually live the way it lived before where there was one there where there was need an example of that is where they will actually take food and hide in their rooms and actually the you know they're going to be three meals a day but they are still living in that old family and I thought about that and I think you know Romans five as an illustration many times we live as if we're an atom when we're being adopted by Jesus right and so I think when we understand what we can get through Jesus which is listed in Romans five will be like wow this is the adoption this is the family I belong to and then we you know in the power of God start living in that new family and start partaking of what Christ wants to impart. Yes So I really enjoyed that thank you very much we'll go to the next group which is group number three which will lead us through Roman six and seven and I'm very interested to see what you came out with there in Romans seven I would consider that the most difficult part of the book of Romans go for it. You know it's very helpful when you're studying the Bible not to always be too mindful of chapter divisions especially when you're going to like this through the book of Romans when Paul wrote down this letter you know obviously he didn't come to the end of the day and say OK I've written chapter six and I'm going to write Chapter seven tomorrow you know there's a flow in Scripture and when you get the flow it's more easy because you're seeing that he's developing themes that he is them you know explaining and teaching and describing and I think what Chapter six and seven what helped me to understand Chapter seven was to see the flow that is already developed in chapter six and you know you guys brought it out very well Chapter six is the theme of you know dying to self he uses the illustration of baptism but you know baptism you know that happens you know most of the time once in our life but this is of course an experience that we need daily pauses I die daily so the dying to self is a daily experience and this is a theme that now continues into Chapter seven but you know in order to be filled with Christ in order to have the experience of victory you know yourself must die and the illustration that he uses here is the illustration of a marriage so I just want to kind of walk you through those verses for a moment so turn to Romans seven let's look at the first six verses the illustration that Paul uses of a marriage to illustrate the death to self remember the death the self is a ready the theme that we find in chapter six so it's a theme that is now continuing in this illustration of Chapter seven so we're going to read through the first six verses OK Romans Chapter seven. Getting in verse one. Or do you not know brother and for I speak to those who know the law that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives now as I read through these verses we're going to kind of try to identify. The elements in the illustration so according to chapter one we have the man and we have the law OK So just remember that we have the man and we have the law that says. That the law has dominion over the man as long as he lives then Chapter seven verse two says for the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives but if the husband dies she is released from the law of her husband so in Chapter two we have the woman. Again we have the man which is here described as the husband so we have the woman with we have the husband and we have the law OK. Chapter seven verse three So then if while her husband lives she marries another man should be called an adulterous but if her husband dies she is free from that law so that she is no adulterous although she married and other man so in chapter in verse three were introduced to a third. Key player in the illustration and that is the other man so we have the husband the man we have the woman we have another man and we have the law OK So those are the four elements in the illustration that we need to remember and basically there is a marriage that is being described here marriage is between one man and one woman and and the marriage is binding what binds them together is really you know the law of God The Law of God says that you know if if the husband would go to someone else while. In this illustration if the woman would go to another husband while the first. Husband is living the law would condemn that and say that is adultery right adultery so this is interesting so a policy policy using this illustration and other places Paul talks about the church being the Bride of Christ so in the illustration of Romans Chapter seven you and I are the woman OK so in the illustration is say OK so the woman is married and who would then the husband be that we should or let me ask it like this the Church of the church is the bride what is the what who is our husband who is our bridegroom Jesus Christ OK So we are if we are the if we are the woman the church and we want to be connected with Jesus Christ then in order for us to be connected with Jesus Christ something must happen now let's let's see again if we can identify the key role players in this illustration so I'll pick it up again in verse two for for the women of the church God's people who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives you know marriages is for life so you can't get out of this thing there's only one way that the woman could be married to another man legitimately and what way would that be according to the illustration if he dies there is only one way that the woman the church can be connected with the other husband and that is if the first husband dies now what is what is the first husband in the illustration of what is the other the second husband or the let's see if we can find that out verse three So then if while her husband lives she marries another man should be called an adulterous but if her husband dies she is free from that law so that she is no adulterous though she is married another man and again before we identify the two men it's pretty clear. The law is the same the law that binds you to the first husband binds you to the second husband right but I look at first four because here we find out who the first husband is and the second husband. Therefore my brother and you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ that you may be married to another and then it goes on to describe the other husband of the second husband in the end first four to him capital H. who has who was raised from the dead now who is him that was raised from the dead not very very hard that's Jesus Christ now look at verse five it describes then the first husband for when we were in the flash the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death this is fascinating what Paul is saying is OK here in the illustration we are the woman we are married to the first husband and the first husband the description that Paul gives of the first husband is the flesh and other words we are married to self. We are bound to self and there is no way that we can be married to Christ when we are married to self. So we're bound to the first husband and you know we're just like this it's kind of like Paula saying if nothing changes with we're just doomed. That the rest of our existence self is going to reign we're merits of and that's why the rest of Roman seven even after this illustration kind of describes what that life is like to be married to self it's like I want to be somewhere else but I can't be somewhere else because I'm married to self you know I want to do this but I can't and then he brings on this illustrate there's only one way that we can be married to Christ what must happen to the first husband what must happen to self die I mean what a bright mind Paul to be able to put that together you know so you're married with self self must die the first husband must die so you can marry marry two. Another which is Jesus Christ and the same law the law that tells us that we are sinners is the same law that reveals the character of God when we're connected with Christ I mean it's brilliant what Paul is doing and that's Romans seven the illustration of marriage and how we are to be married to Christ Self must die the first husband must die and then the actually the the rest of Chapter seven is a description of what it is to be married to the first husband to self and then we get to Romans eight it's the experience when that first husband dies and now we're connected with Christ so rose eight you can. Share your thoughts on that one group for. Wonderful thank you. I think it's very nice to hear the groups in such a way being presented after each other and you seeing the flow of the build up of the book of Romans and Chapter eight is indeed kind of the the phenolic the it really brings a climax to it of what it means to walk in the spirit and the first one is just so powerful there is there for now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who do not walk according to the flesh but walk according to this spirit so the condemnation is gone the culmination is not there because we are in Christ is God looks upon us and he looks at his son Jesus Christ because we have accepted Him by faith then he stands in our place. Another word for actually in the English language this works quite well you think about justification and it's kind of like you know what is justification to be justified I think of it this way. The penalty of sin is death right so death has to you know sin the consequences of sin as they are death but we have been promised eternal life of someone has to die in our place so to be just. Fied is think of this like this and endless Just as if I died justified just as if I died but I didn't die but I'm treated just as if I died but Jesus died in my place like you think of justification and justified just as if I died and then when that happens when I'm justified there is no condemnation because Jesus has taken the condemnation upon himself of my sin you know and therefore I can now walk in the spirit and therefore when I start walking in the spirit Now the character of Jesus and the spirit of Jesus is now giving me the power to walk in obedience to him and this is so crucial because so many people and I struggled with this for years and maybe you have as kind of this picture you have the law you have the gospel you have Jesus Christ but oftentimes we we our own strength try to keep the law in order to be accepted by Jesus right now and then you have the other is so you have that side legalism trying to keep the law in order to be accepted on the inside of the other side where there is the law is done away with there is no law but the true Gospel and what Romans brings out again and again are we seeing it by all that you have presented this afternoon we're seeing this picture of yes the laws there the law is not done away with the law is there the law requires. You know it shows us what sin is and it requires death in a beat in disobedience to the law but then at the same time we have the picture of what Jesus did for us and so when we come to Him in faith we are justified and then in that assurance of justification there is now a place for growth and overcoming growth and overcoming cannot happen outside of the assurance of self of of the assurance of the confidence that we're forgiven in Christ we tried like keep the law in our own strength in order to be justified Well that's not going to hurt but we come to the conclusion Christ has done this for me I accept His gift sinful though I am. I have now there is now no condemnation because I'm in crises and in the security in this faith in what he has done for me now the growth is possible that's where victory over sin happens victory over sin happens in exactly what Romans eight verse one says there's no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who do not walk according to The Flash but according to the Spirit now we start trusting in what God will do in our lives so I hope this is being a little bit helpful to get you kind of in in a mode of wanting to study this more. And. You know Romans is just there's so much there so I hope you'll you'll go back read and study it more if you're interested in more presentations on the book of Romans actually on our website if you want to write it down. Living Water one word just living water dot and oh. There's a lot of material there in English as well we have both English in the region but I guess English will be better for you so. That living water one word and then Dot and oh and you come to our website and. There if you look at well you have a lot of there's a lot of studies audio sermons and teachings as well as video. But if you go to the I think this one I only have an audio actually if you go to the audio and if I remember correctly the series is called the unhindered gospel and there you have like eight part series going through the book of Romans particularly the first chapter so if you want to look a little bit more in depth some of the things I wasn't able to present here or you want to share that with others you can go there the unhindered gospel. They are and there's a lot more on there as well other studies. All right well we're already over time so we're going to have a word of prayer in closing and thank you for your participation thank you for what you've been sharing it was very very interesting for me to listen to and I hope we've all been. Fitted by a less price. 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