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5. Gardening 101: Natural Remedies

Stephen Meyer

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Stephen Meyer

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  • January 17, 2018
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OK We're going to do naturally these for the garden is one of my favorite ones and you'll find that the principles of natural remedies from human health really apply in the garden OK and if you read in the book the ministry of healing how many of you guys know about the book ministry of healing if you haven't heard about that that will tell you everything from how to help your neighbor who's not doing so well to how to help your mother in law OK I saw one version that book it was called heal the world starting with yourself I really like that one OK if you look on page one twenty seven and one twenty eight he gives those eight natural remedies most of us can say it backwards in our sleep right but most of us have not memorized the thing that comes right in the paragraph before and right in the paragraph after Ok the paragraph before says that we should first a certain the call was OK and deal with the cause OK And then the next paragraph after the list of those natural remedies says that we should it's much better to prevent than it is to cure it once you have the problem so those are our two principles of natural middies in the garden OK and in Proverbs twenty eight verse twenty six verse two it kind of brings out this principle cause and effect as the bird by wandering and as the fly swallowed by flying so the curse causeless shall not come OK Boehner and then it goes confusing I mean the birds out there the swallows is going to roll over the place but when you study about birds there's a definite pattern to the migration and so and so forth so it's the same way whenever there's a curse in your life in your health. In the garden when the bugs start eating out my you know I've got that whole greenhouse full of lettuce or something I put so much work in and something starts eating it. Stressed say OK well there's a there's a cause behind is a reason and if you can find that sometimes it's hard in human health this hard to find the cause because there's so many factors in that right but if you can find the cause then you deal with that now the problem with us and we get in the natural remedies many times we're still thinking in the drug mentality which is just treat the symptoms if you see a bug you just want something does that that bug just kill it it's done no problem great and so we're still thinking in the symptomatic mentality instead of trying to go back and find the cause. And so it's like I heard this one little jingle on the radio it said to well take Di jail OK so you're not thinking about changing your way of eating you just sound and then we get in the natural menes and we go oh yeah charcoal is great stuff listen charcoal to I mean we're health reform or charcoal and then it's just eat to well take charcoal Now see that's a natural remedy in a drug mentality OK so we're going to be talking about here is trying to deal with the cause always. Deal with the cause OK and he's here the basic steps to natural remedies OK and the most basic one is starting with the soil and the plant health which would be just what we talked about this morning Bill the organic matter and balance the soil nutrition or fertility that is sort of the definition of a healthy soil so you can have a lot of organic matter but not have to balance fertility or you could go in there and try to fine tune balance of fertility but not be building organic matter you get to get the the two together OK And so that's a very important in management practices like proper Taishan and then resistant varieties and then encouraging the biology they're like beneficials and then maybe some time you can't figure out anything else you do physical control which is like put a floating row cover over to keep the bugs out OK well that's a natural remedy but you didn't find the cause did you otherwise you would have to put that cover say so we're we're glad we're doing it in natural instead of just spray on mouth file on but when we put that row cover on we're sort of saying I am going home and well give me a year to figure out the cause effect relation and then of course we really have emitted defeat if we have to use botanical insecticides which is a poison that comes from a natural source but it's a poison so we're going. To hand a concept this thing and so so it's a whole mentality say we want to find a cause Don't worry. So we start with building our soil health press the wrong button here OK. I want to tell you a story about when I was in Alabama my dad was managing the garden in the lifestyle center and I was managing the farm had about a six acre garden and he had maybe. One thousand square feet foot garden again so he'd really built up his garden with a lot of organic matter compos green manure helped him with that and green sand and see we rock phosphate and you know that kind of stuff you'd really done it intensively and one day we were at lunch and he said he told me he's going to plant some beans in the garden I said Dad I've got the two Roe Cornplanter on the tractor I'll does it in their power plant those beans for you and so I did one zip zip zip with the two row Cornplanter planted six rows of beans and in the same hour I went in point of four rows of beans on the farm three hundred foot rows OK well his garden was a lot more built up and he had three foot rows that Cornplanter was set for three foot rows his blue lake beans they Bushed out so much that you could hardly find you had to really work to find a place to stick your toe down in there you know between the vines he just grown together and there were a few being beetles here and there but they were not causing a problem he just picked tonnes of being my beans they grew and they produce beans but the bean Beatles were just eating them up I sprayed him with wrote known the botanical insecticide but still I'm is Alabama's like a bug capital second only probably to Texas of the her. And so I'm thankful for all that time I spent in Alabama because it gave me experience with a lot of different bugs and what can be done with natural ways so here's a Mexican bean beetle and of course this is adult here they look more like this actually and then they do eat but then when they're larva start had sing out they just turn the leaves into sieves OK And so. Anyway all that I had built my soil nearly as much as my dad so it just really illustrated to me soil. Health is the way to go not spraying on. Botanical insecticide OK And here's a foods I was in Switzerland visiting this one lady and the greenhouse organic greenhouse grower she told me whenever I have an eighth of a problem it's because I have a root problem a problem in the root zone too much compaction not enough air ration. Not good drainage or whatever and so I remember that and I found many times that a foods are cause like I told you before by too much nitrogen that's the first thing I think of whenever somebody comes and asks me oh I'm going to a food from well how do you for a chemical fertilizer nitrogen or you put on too much to come into or something like that that just made a lush growth seems to invite a fits or not enough Neiges and sometimes. Invites a fits and you know many times we we think backwards as humans it seems like you know our way of think or selfish but but otherwise we just get so we think bugs are bad maybe we have to try flipping it over or bugs maybe a good day they tell us what is the unhealthy plants are coming in or sort of the garbage disposal crew see so they can tell us and then we know to do something we need to go back and balance the saw and and so on and so forth and. Of course you know if you have a bug in your garden so you don't just plow everything under because what you're growing with a few bugs maybe more safe than what is over here and some other safe way or something like that. OK. Actually I was when I was in visiting Elliot Cohen and he was telling me how he was able to create beds side by side the one with I think with zucchini squash the one attracted cucumber beetles this is spotted Oh boy. This is a spotted cucumber beetle here and this is a straight cucumber beetle I don't care which one it is they eat here you know melons and cucumber and squash and they also bring bacterial wilt in their mouth parts and that's when you see that cucumber plant is just about to start producing cucumbers and it just all is then go like it ran out of water that's the bacteria will plug up the organism plugged up its vascular system it just well OK so anyway he was able to basically create bed side by side one attracted the cucumber beetles and one basically not attracting them and the way he did that one bed he fertilized with fresh chicken manure OK very pushy and nitrogen even though it's organic fertilizer but very available you know you can you know fertilize it too much with nitrogen and the other bed he was living at the time on the Maine coast and he had a lot of seaweed and so he compost and seaweed with his horse manure very well made compost and he. Put that in the other bed and it wasn't attracting to come beetles OK and. Seaweed actually has growth hormone in called Fight a kind in and that really stimulates the growth of the plant but it also works to help the plant build the amino acids into proteins OK nitrates go to Mino acids and then the protein so it was you know everything was working the way of supposed to and they've done research that shows that that is the free amino acids just floating around like building blocks that haven't been built into healthy protein that signals the bugs to attack the plants so. So that kind of fit with you know what he was dealing with there. OK then here some management practices crop rotation. Can Really. Help with a lot of especially diseases OK And like Joel was saying there are certain crops that are very disease prone the three top families are the night shade family was talking about this morning tomatoes peppers eggplants. Potatoes and then the cabbage family cabbage broccoli cauliflower and so on and so forth and the squash family so those you want to be very careful to have a good rotation not plant them more often than once every three years your lead is so your radishes Well radishes I guess are in the cabbage family maybe but your legacy your radishes or your this or that you know you can be more sloppy with it but you want to be really careful with those three pant plant families to not plant them more often than once every three years and even more often is better I think if you study into club root that's a problem you'll have in brassicas or cabbage family where the roots just get veg knots on them they say it takes seventy years for that organism to get worked out of the soil OK So the longer rotation you can without you know. Getting stressed out the better and it's kind of fun to you know turn your children loose and give them a home school sign to make rotation plans and a good way to do it you just take a little file cards and you write out the different vegetables on there and then you shuffle them around to you can make it in a board game you know who knows you might become a millionaire to. Doing that OK. But anyway rotation one insect that rotate you know I can guarantee if you rotate your crops that you won't have any problem with being beetles OK because of being beetles can fly from over here to over here OK one insect that it will really help rotation will really help is nematodes that's a microscopic soil. Worm in the soil that pierces into the roots of your crops and messes up the flow of the sap and you plant just just well nematodes has real problems with. Tomatoes in in Alabama I would not grow a tomato that wasn't will do that here pretty soon that wasn't resistant to nematodes because in the say in the soil in the south they heat warm climate and sandy soil terrible problems with nematodes and the further north you get and the more clay the soil the less them at those and the more organic matter in the soil the less problems you have with organic and with nematodes because that encourages the parasitic fungus that pierces those nematodes in just the fungus just grows into the inside of the nematodes one more reason to build the organic matter OK but just rotating will the nematodes go with the plant families so if you plan to mate is year after year they build up but if it's a long time before you plant tomatoes again. The levels of nematodes that attack attack tomatoes will go way down. OK then sanitation now just basically keeping your garden clean in the fall clean up your garden so you don't have those to made of vines out there to produce a bunch of you know. Late blight spores that will infect your next year's tomatoes you see there or if you do have a terrible you know plant that just sick Well yeah put it in the dumpster or something but of course again if you're rotating your crops you just still that those tomatoes in in that area even diseased plants and they'll be three years or five years before you plant to mate is there again so you know of all time to sow rotation and sanitation sort of sort of go together and then encourage the beneficials that is a big part of prevention but you can see all these are preventing type of things I found in Alabama if I would read the extension Boltons from the you know Extension Service that would tell me how to grow a certain crop and I would do all the cultural practices which included rotation and building organic matter that was the first half of the bulletin I wouldn't have to do the second half of the Bolton which was all the pesticides fungus sides and so forth because I had prevented the problems OK curds a beneficials. And the way you encourage beneficial is you you don't buy you know you can buy ladybugs but they have a mind of their own and they'll fly off to wherever so it's best to encourage them if you give them food and shelter they'll be there in their food is the umbrella for. Flowers such as Deal Caraway carrot fan on and those and the composite flowers like marigolds calendula and so forth and you can buy those from Johnny's and peace Valley Farm Supply one is called good bland Another one is called Border Patrol. All because you plan around the border and then attracts the beneficials and they patrol your garden OK And what we do I was telling you we have that kale that we keep over the winter under plastic or in the greenhouse and that is good if it's in your garden because many of these if you plant did all in. If you plant deal in your garden it'll take a long time pretty long until it gets up and flowers and all this but if you have a kale it's already growing and it puts up that spike and makes all those yellow flowers and that it just attracts the beneficials early at the same time as your early lettuce and P. S. and everything and so you've got all those beneficials already jumpstarted from the beginning of your so whatever plants you can find that function that way in your garden is really great and then shelter to have some you know don't just have that perfect suburban law on with everything just sprayed with round up or this that you know to have some little areas of herbs and they're a little bit shaggy then the beneficials can sort of hide in there or you don't have a thousand acres a monoculture like you have in California but you have diversity of plants that also is very very important. OK here's a home or fly this one of the beneficials and they can be as big as a hornet you know they kind of go. In and they hope for or they're so small you can hardly see them OK and they don't they actually live on the nectar of these beneficials but then they lay their eggs and this is what they're larva look like OK is this kind of translucent worm that you can see the guts work in there and they just eat a food at a house and home OK but a lot of times you won't even see what's happening it's happening there but you know it's on a micro scale and. Those are the good guys and like you know like Ally just said to his servant there's more for us than there are against us see so of all the insects in the world there are a lot of beneficial insects This is a Newman wasp and it stings into the a Fed lays its egg in there and then it hatches out and pupil or larva eats out the inside of the a food and then you pate and it hatches out and goes to sting more a foods and leaves that a fit as a little like a Chinese lantern on the leaf. And of course we know about lady bugs do you know what a ladybug larva looks like here's a lady bug larva it looks like a little Gila monster something like that. So you know you need to know what who your friends are don't tell them. There's a ground beetle one time in Colorado we. Didn't have any problems with it we had all kinds of. Potato beetle adults and they were laying their eggs on the potatoes and we had a natural insecticide to spray on them but we never needed to spray him because the eggs just started disappearing and we went over to Colorado State University and talked to them and after we talked and they showed us they had all these drawers of bugs in their place there and they showed us all the different bugs that might have been eating those potato beetle eggs and it came down to this lowly ground beetle and what really encourages it is if you have trash on your soil they like to hide in that organic matter so one more thing organic matter good stuff. OK. OK. One thing with the beneficials you don't want to jump to even with with natural insecticides you don't want to jump to just zapping the bugs OK one time in our greenhouse The eighth is we're just there are tomatoes in the greenhouse are about this tall and eight as we're just crippling them and so we got the entomologist from over Colorado State University Whitney Crenshaw he came in and he started looking and we were going to spray insecticidal soap which is an organic spray he said no don't even don't even spray then insecticidal so because that is hard on the beneficials you got so many beneficials and he started showing us the Hova flies Oh you know the little hole for five just told me a little bit and then he started showing a signal and they were actually fighting over a food still staying OK and the ladybugs also so we just held off for another two weeks and good bugs caught up with the bad it was really great OK plant resistant varieties. Like I said in Alabama I would never plant a. Tomato that wasn't resistant to nematodes and that's these codes here OK The V. stands for verticity And will the F. for a few Syrian will and in for nematodes so I grew better boy tomatoes big beef is one that Joe was mentioning resistant to not only resistant to V.F. and but I think it's also tobacco mosaic and and several others has a very long resistance code so this very easy thing to do you just kick back in the winter time by the fire and read the Johnnies catalogue and find those resistant varieties it's really fun to do. Cucumber mosaic resistant cucumber powdery. Mildew resistant peas and squash. And track nose powder do mildew resistant melons I just mentioned just to mention a few and here's the codes OK. Which is I guess we already pointed out in the Johnnies Johnnie's catalog. OK then biological control. And that would include the beneficial insects and that kind of thing but here I'm talking about a spray that is a bacterial insecticide so using biology to kill the bugs you might say. And one of my favorites is B T bacillus Gensis and it's a naturally occurring bacteria that gives the cabbage worms a stomach ache and they quit eating for a little bit too long OK and it comes in trade names like diaper thorough side and so forth. But it's more effective in the university tests and so forth more effective than seven and those those kind of you know hardware store insecticides die pal and you just you know get a wet a ball powder mix it up in water spray it on your cabbage and it just you have beautiful clean cabbage broccoli and all that kind of thing. Or you can get a dust sometimes at many garden centers die pal dust if you have a small garden you know it's easier just to have a duster and go out there and do a pew few puffs and then have to mix it all up and water and all this stuff. You know many times you go to your garden center and you tell him I want to sell the third Gensis just shrug their shoulders and but you just stay there so you know maybe you can get go get your chemical supplier catalogue and look through there to about page three three cores of the way through they'll find the fine and you've got to know you're looking for B T You're looking for which is bacillus cent trade names like die pal and so forth and they'll finally you know they'll finally figure it out and they can get it they can get it might be on the shelf you know there's. Then there's. We'll skip over this me middle one but this is one that's really big now in Johnny's has that spin is that OK and that will take care of cabbage worms and a variety of other. Things like potato beetles and so forth there's a good bunch of spin is that you can even get into Lowes and and so forth you look there on their shelf and they'll have say for his insecticide all soaped now and there are some kind of insecticidal so they'll have DI Pell many times or some kind of BT and they'll have some kind of spin as a product and also have name which is is an extract from the name tree OK so. Finally catching up with all these things so those are very easy to do and. Don't use seven and Malakai on those things that's from way back in the dark ages. OK then physical control that's like floating row covers and if you look there on page what was it was at page two hundred at the very top of the page there's an extra light row cover it's called I think it's called insect barrier OK and it's so thin that it won't keep the plant up if you just put that regular point five five row cover that's meant for keeping things warmer and you do that in Texas or even West Virginia as it gets into summer it'll get too warm he said so if you're trying to keep out the cucumber beetles. Then you need that insect barrier weight not not cover weight and then another thing is that kale and clay they they use for putting on fruit trees as a barrier OK then here the botanical insecticides you remember there we do this word knitting defeat. Of Adana go insects but it's still better than a chemical sector side because coming from a plant source usually breaks down more quickly I wouldn't actually recommend wrote known anymore to the easy because it does have it's quite poisonous and it does have residual effects they found it stays quite residual I would recommend piracy through even though it's quite pricey if you look in Johnny's catalogue or whatever. But that would be the one I would choose some people even have questions about mean certain things it has in it but I've used name in the mission field we just had named trees there and it's really great you make your own natural insects is not actually a poison it's actually slows down the reproductive cycle of the bugs so if you're down a Dominican Republic and you spray that on the bugs down there it will get you from the the bug pressure of Dominican Republic back up to about what it's like in Texas or Alabama OK if you spray it in Texas or Alabama it will get you about up to West Virginia and if you do it in West Virginia get you about to Michigan and you get the idea. OK here's now we're going to go through this list that you have here and we always need some direct cures OK so we're just going to go down through this what you would do if you got this problem and it will course many of these We're going to be reviewing what we've already talked about so for a foods you don't want to over fertilise with nitrogen you want to encourage the beneficials that's we're encouraging the beneficials shines the brightest is controlling a food so OK because you saw all those ones they deal with a fifth that's OK then in Europe I learned about stinging nettle tea I don't know if you have that down in Texas but Sting nettles just take that and put it in a five gallon bucket or tub just put a bunch of them in there fill it up with water let it sit twenty four hours and then you spray that on your eight it's OK and then insecticidal soap that's what I use because I don't want to four with stained nettles So you just buy insecticidal so and they have selected these soaps the fatty acids in the soap is what takes care of the a food so they selected the ones that have the best fatty acids to control the a food when I go around the fooling around to mix it up a spray and spraying it I want to be sure it's going to work not some you know this that or the other so so it's not that expensive insecticidal soap. OK. Then for ants to guys have fire ants down here in Texas OK yeah we had those in Alabama and they like to eat the skin off the broccoli stems and can't broccoli and cabbage they would just you know just collar those. Cabbage stems so I found if you put powdered charcoal right around each plant the ants did not want to cross that charcoal barrier so another now the good charcoal remedy OK then army worms it's just kind of a blackish velvety look and worm that will just eat the big gash is in your beat leaves or your tail or even carrot sometimes it'll just eat believes up the carrots OK but it's in the Lepidoptera family and so BT will take care of that bacillus turn Gensis or die pal. OK and then bean beetles. There is a parasite which I can pronounce the name of it here that will parasitize bean beetles but at least in West Virginia if it's too cold it won't over winter and so you have to release is quite expensive so for the average gardener I tried it one year they must've just flown away or something it didn't control my being beetles but it is it does work. But you can use something like Tyree through to control being beetles actually BOB GREGORY. Is close to us there he uses trap crops a lot and he says that planting yellow eye beans. Along with your green beans bean beetles like yellow I'd be better than light green beans but I haven't tried that yet so you know I'm always cautious to recommend something until I actually planted it in my own own garden. OK then cabbage worms and cabbage loopers. Die pal I'll just take care of them. No problem with the we're supposed to be clicking on through here oh that's a lace wing also takes care of a fits. LACE wing a large lady and OK there's an ant in case you don't know what those are there's the army worm. To fall sometimes are called Fall army worms because they many times there's a bean beetle Mexican being beaten. And the larva and this is actually the this is larva that's been parasitized by one of those little parasitic wasps. OK here's the imported cabbage looper and this is the cabbage or imported cabbage worm and cabbage Luper I really don't care which it is oh I know I've got a worm in my broccoli and my customers are just they'll go to Kroger swith they see that they don't care if it's organic anymore they just go crazy so actually I don't like worms in my broccoli. OK And here's cabbage maggots and crop rotation is very good for take care of that. Here's a corn ear worm and if you have a lot of beneficials it will really help with the corn ear warm but you can also use mineral oil just take a little mineral oil put a few drops on the self OK So here's the end of the year in the silk just coming out here and I usually wait until it's starting to lose its real green color because I'm afraid it might affect the pollination but I put it on all different times and I've never seen it affect the pollination just put a few drops right there where the silk goes into the ear because the the mock comes and lays it's a great bear on the silk and then the worm eats its way down through the silk into the end of the ear so you've got that little barrier of mineral oil then it works very well and on a garden level I've even done that acres at a time when I had a lot of help in Alabama. OK here's a cucumber beetle and you can use covers for that don't over fertilize with nitrogen or fresh Manoora like we like we talked about. And then you can use some kind of botanical insecticide OK then cut worms they will just come you know after you plant your little tender transplants maybe have a picture of Cut-Worms here there's one yeah even your little corn plants they just like to come and they wrap around their plant and they just cut it OK and my gardening teacher when I was ten years old had a gardening class and in school and she would put little paper collars around her cabbage plants finest time to do that I want to be able to plant it you know to do it in also I think she use nails sometimes put sixteen pay. Anyway I don't want those nails in my garden you know the worm goes around and goes to bite it's kind of hard on these teeth OK while I was reading these organic books and actually books that explain this Calacanis change capacity and the calcium and I read in there that cut worms don't have permission to function in a soil this balance with calcium OK And so and I found that to be true and I found course many people that I'm you know come to me with cut worm problems they can't get their soil balanced right away so I just tell him take some high calcium line or you can use any kind of line but preferably high calcium on and you just throw it down the road kind of make the surface kind of white you know don't just dump it on there but just dust it on good and that will change the not really the Ph But the calcium balance OK and I found the biggest from we had in Alabama their people I was selling these cabbage plants from my greenhouse and they come back the next day and say Oh Steve the cabbage the Cut-Worms ate half of our cabbages and what they've done they have a lot of pine needles in oak leaves and they planted their plants and then they just snow this small step around them their soil was probably already acid and not so balance and then all this acid mall just gave that perfect you know environment and so I just tell him throw that line down the row and I had one lady call me from Michigan they've been one of my seminars she called me just to tell me Steve that word oh boy they just took care of my car or it was OK that's great. OK. Is the European corn bore again Kroft rotation. And flea beetles I don't have a good answer for fully beetles dust them with wood ashes or are. Just you know if you plant your root in the spring time the flea beetles that just make holes in the leaves but if you plant in the fall you really want to have a problem for you beetles OK so if you can't beat em join them type of things. That's what I do in Alabama with the cucumber beetles and the squash bugs I just kept planting. Summer squash in Q Cumbers every week or every two weeks you know and so when that set does die then I had more more coming on. OK here's the nematodes this is a micro electron microscope probably thing and there's the root not nematode damage OK And you know the. Beans legumes will have now jewels on the roots but the knowledge will be on the side of the roots but the nematode damage is in line with the root kind of like you know arthritic joints or something say and you know it's root not nematode cysts nematode something like that and. So crop rotation and also planting a wry cover crop there's something about that right cover crop that really suppresses the nematodes that like to attack your vegetables is kind of a climax stand. A plant but they you know the vegetable nematodes don't function with. Yeah well the question was where the if maybe you would plant rise that seventy year cover crop instead of alfalfa. Well Ron I It likes to grow during the winter time cold cool time so you really won't keep going for a full year like alfalfa will so that's usually used that is what we call winter cover crop so we don't with your garden. In the fall you know everything's pretty well done except maybe a little bit of kale over here you just kill your whole garden up it can be very trashy all the bean vines you just have to lean in and you just throw all these rice either out there and this them in or have your children trample it like I was talking about and rake it a little bit on a small area you can do it that way it works very well and then we'll just come up like a. Long and over the winter and protect your your garden from the roses and it'll keep the microbes really gone and then in the spring You course till it in and then play your your vegetables but that will give a good just that winter cover crop of rye will give a suppression of the nematodes effect. OK here's the Colorado potato beetles and some people say that having a mole between the rows will help that goes along with the ground beetles and so forth there are several products like I mentioned spin as and I think in Johnnie's they have the Monterey Monterey insecticide I think it is said and look what what page that is on but it is a spin is their. Product. And you can also use piracy through the botanical insecticide. OK here's squash bugs. Roe covers are good for keeping those out you have to keep it on there quite religiously in order to take care of the squash bugs and Gregory he sprays his the base of his squash plants with insecticidal soap and sulphur mix together as a repellant for the. Squash bugs. OK here's slugs and as I mentioned before you can use Sluggo or a scar grow. Two hundred fourteen. OK. Two hundred fourteen is a page in Johnny's that has the dye pal and I think they have both a wet a bowl powder there and a dust of the dye pal and then the spinners then add which is the trade name for that I think is Monterey. Insecticide. OK. But anyway there's this pride product Sluggo for a scar go which is iron phosphate that now they have Sluggo Plus which has the spin is that in that control some other ground in sex like meal bugs those little pill bug like guys. OK thrip. Encouraging the beneficials and you can also use these kind of traps. To trap him out or monitor them. And here's the tomato horn worm actually this might be a tobacco vide worm but anyway just has a different number of stripes but it will have you ever seen these guys see just the foliage your tomato plants OK and dye Pal is very effective on those so you just spray that on as soon as you see any signs or maybe even before and it also for tomato fruit worms that's a worm it's actually the same as the corn ear worm it gets in the tomato fruit that first fruit is starting to turn red to go to pick it and the one side of it is just rotten it's because to made a fruit worm got in there when it was still very little small for it and so if you do that that's why I did in Alabama I would just spray those first clusters with dye pale after the first two fruit set it in seem to have a problem for the rest of the season so those first ones those are the ones I was most interested in I was just brain would die pal and But here you can see on the next slide encouraging the beneficials because here is a tomato horn worm that's being parasitize. A brick on it wass And these are the packets I think pupa OK And then those hatch out and go and parasitize more corn worms when I was a little kid we used to go to our neighbors and we'd pick the horn worms off for a penny a worm and drop them in the kerosene or something but they told us when ever you see those white packets you just leave that one dollar ticket because that's going to you know make more. More parasites to take care of the heartworms. OK so that's a little rundown on. What you can do natural and. And more natural Yes. OK The question is what you can use DI to maces earth for and you can use that for any kind of in sex especially seems like the hard shelled insects. And it is a mind product of the microscopic sea animals that have been. Say. Yeah and all that's left is the silica and they mail it and it scratches the insects exoskeleton and makes in the hydrate I personally haven't had that much success with it because of the humidity is high then it doesn't the hydrate the insect and so forth but you can you know it's something it's something to try Also it's pure silica so you don't want to you don't want to worry that. OK you know the question or to yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah yeah I don't have a good solution still looking for that well there is one product that you can try and that is milky spore which is a disease of the. Japanese beetles and it take care of the grubs that are in the sod see spread this on your lawn this milky spore disease and it will destroy the grubs and some people I've talked to say it was very effective these put it on it took care of the Japanese beetle problem other people say well we put it on our lawn but there's so much lawn I mean you know they can fly and so that's something to try but it's not a good I have done that when they attack my soybeans they can just make the leaves in the sieve I'll just throw. Hydrated line I just throw it on my soybeans but it doesn't kill him it just kind of slows them down but it's not you know. Done for cure type. Yes. What's that again. Yeah yeah most of the ones that I was promoting is just you know I was just smiling my way through there were ones that there bacterial insecticide so you can actually if you read on the label you can spray it on the day of you know it's a natural thing in nature and they've just put in a bag BT is just bacillus thirty six but then the ones that I would say yeah when you put that on even though it's a natural insecticide it's still a poison and it breaks down quite quickly in let's say it's an extract from a I think it's a curse sanctum. Type flower. So it is a poison and but it will break down in the environment and in your garden. More quickly then the you know other poisons OK but for me that's my last resort OK. But I'd say that it's you know something that we can do OK And and one thing I might say is you know if you read through the Bible you see that God has promised to protect us from the devour OK So also when you read about natural Mini's we're told that we should do what we can do and then pray for God's help OK so what I've told you here I've been telling you all about what we can do OK but nothing that I said is to in any way. Lessen depending on what God wills who a case of I had a friend who when the hail was coming in. Dakota he prayed and the hail just went around his garden OK So you know when you have those locusts coming across. Texas or something you know you are going to spray pirate threat on those so that's all the prey and and but I believe whatever we do we should do it in a natural a way and then there's a time when you just say OK God you know this is your garden and if you want to eat up that's fine but you know we've paid our ties and we trust in you or in partnership with you we've done all that we can do and now. We're depending on you to do what we know we can do and that's a really great. You know thing to know that year and in partnership with God in everything you do. OK you better wind up here take a ten minute break and then we're going to talk some. We're going to hit some high points in what you can do to get into growing fruits OK because. For the work you put into it on the long run you get a lot more from growing perennial fruits. Small fruits or tree fruits and so we're just going to share with you some of the easiest techniques that we've found that can sort of jump start that process. This media was brought to you by Adil foods a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about how do you first if you would like to listen to more sermons leader Visit W W W. Dot org.

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