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Learning From Work

Lisa Beardsley-Hardy


Lisa Beardsley-Hardy

Director of Education, General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists




  • February 9, 2018
    2:45 PM
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It's a great privilege for me to be here with you and greetings from the Adventist world of education altogether we have over eight thousand Seventh Day Adventist schools that are part of the yearbook the organized work of the church over one hundred thousand teachers and we are educating nearly two million students just shy of two million students and I just was in Brazil with two thousand very enthusiastic Brazilian teachers and it's wonderful to see how their church embraces the work of education there and supports it very directly where the church supports the work of education we have a young church and where we've distance ourselves from the work of education the church ages so I'm I was glad to be there and I'm glad to be here as well I'm going to be sharing with you from presentation that has had a lot of challenges there we go on learning from work why do we as the Seventh Day Adventist through church offer education first and foremost it is to read and respond or the image of God and students and to prepare them for service in this world and the greater joy of service in the world to come and we all know this quote but this is key for our philosophy and why we should have work. This past annual Council two thousand and sixteen the annual Council which is the General Conference executive committee post the five hundred people from around the world are there annually to conduct business of the Church such as to vote changes to General Conference work in policy to vote no appointments and so on in two thousand and sixteen the special theme for two days before the annual Council begins was on education Adventists education and they voted during annual Council ten objectives to strengthen education number eight objective number eight pertains to recreate to the work you are doing here say and in your organizations and I'll just read it the vote was to authorize the General Conference Education Department in collaboration with the world divisions and as a Quinn Quenya priority to develop a guiding philosophy and a worldwide regionally response a plan for as the age acacia to be approved by the two thousand and seventeen annual Council and it needed to include ten objectors objective number eight relates to your work that is to develop educational resources support and or standards for other models of education such as home schools residence hall non-degree awarding colleges innovative educational centers of influence in both urban and rural settings pastoral let classes massive open online courses etc In a way that enables such students to be part of Seventh Day Adventists education I told you about the organized work of the church over eight thousand schools over one hundred thousand teachers who are on our payroll and nearly two million but Adventists education is not about buildings schools and payroll it's a philosophy and so objective. Expands that umbrella how can we expand Adventists education outside of our schools through resources one of the strengths of the work in Brazil is how the publishing house has a braced education they develop learning resources for every level they develop textbooks they even have puppets and toys and T.V. programs they employ about twenty graphic designers there in the publishing house to do Adam ations and to develop things that this generation understands and some of this some of these resources are purchased by non admin to school systems as well so that's one example in Mongolia and in a few other places in the world such as Concepcion Chile we have the church there has purchased a home where university students who are studying on a public and in fact I believe near Chattanooga it was Advent house I don't know if it's still operational but university students on a public campus Seventh Day Adventist students can live there in Mongolia they remodeled part of the mission compound it was the Sabbath school I think women's ministry area they actually knocked out the walls and they made a dormitory in which students can live because a lot Bata has about one hundred universities and colleges and students can live there right in the Union compound we don't have our own school but this is a way to mentor and to disciple these young people the majority of whom are non Adventists this year I just received an e-mail they are only having women female students because of just human resources that's what they can manage earlier they had both young men and young women but now it's just young university women and their dislike pulling him so that's what is meant by a non-degree college also other somethings are needed right in cities if you look at the distribution of the Seventh Day Adventist Church we are proportionately our rural church. We need to work the cities as well and education is a means by which we can do that from day care early childhood education through some of these residence halls near a great university in New York City and Columbia University or other places we can have a presence by using education course online education is a nother means of doing that but we need to broaden the scope of Adventist education and that is something that the worldwide church has discussed set as a priority and we've had a series of four regional conferences for all of the divisions in which we reviewed these eight objectives and identified ways by which we could achieve that the first conference was. See the first one was held in Rwanda the three divisions in Africa the second was held in Slovenia and I don't see Mario's right here now I'm sure they'll be coming soon but we had that for all of Europe as well as North America that they joined there and the Middle East North Africa region the third set of conferences were held in interim Merican division and this is just for the leadership of the church union presidents university and college presidents Union education directors and in some cases we've also had principals of high schools and conference education directors studying these on how can we do a better job of using education to achieve the mission of the church and the last set of conferences that we just concluded last week in Bangkok's life she went from Bangkok to Brazil Brazil to here but we had about two hundred fifty that met at Bangkok for Northern Asia Pacific Division southern Asia Pacific Division and part of Middle East North Africa these are the regions of the world and South Pacific Division that have a huge non-Christian populations half of the Southern Asia Pacific Division is Muslim the largest population of Muslims outside of the Middle East as in Indonesia all of China and much of Asia Buddhist or atheistic and then India Hindu faith and some Muslims as well and education allows us to do our work we could not do in any other way it's very difficult to do evangelism and certainly not public of Angelus in a Muslim country but we can open schools we can do educational work. So the work you're doing is part and a welcome part of the global strategic plan now let's just step back from what our aspirations are what we want to do as a church to what that demographic realities are where close to twenty million Seventh Day Adventists around the world now but this is based on data when we were about eighteen million globally based on global surveys the percentage of Seventh Day Adventists who have some Adventists education is less than half forty seven percent only have some where is the majority of Seventh Day Adventists fifty two percent have no Seventh Day Adventists education at all fact I should stop and do a little quiz who could tell me what the first Seventh Day Adventist school is first Seventh Day Adventist school OK good luck. Well our first college was Battle Creek college but our first school was the Sabbath school and it's still our all the school and I mean that quite seriously because our forefathers believed that the Lord was coming very soon and we did not establish schools early on. Our pioneers felt that all resources needed to be put in to proclaiming the midnight cry and literature work took the forefront of proclaiming this word it was not until Ellen White was given a vision in which she after that said we must have a school and that will create college follow that early believers did some homeschooling they were some primary school efforts and which somebody might have been employed but the Sabbath school was the means by which our forefathers were were nurtured into present truth and actual schools came much later and so at least our membership still is going to Sabbath school but formal education less than half at any level when you look at the distribution of membership in this doesn't include all the divisions but I'll be in the East Central Africa efficient less than half. And you are Dr Kevin as you are there in that division when you were Rwanda less than half have any Adventist education at all Inter-American division over seventy percent that's the largest division that and South America North American division is doing the best and we've had the longest time but even here just a little over twenty five percent of our membership have. Have. Twenty five percent have no Adventists education South American division sixty percent South Africa Indian Ocean division seventy five percent three out of every four have no this education South Pacific Division doing a little bit better just under half southern Asia Pacific Division a little over half and as I mentioned half of the membership in that division are Muslim not their Muslim but their territory the population that region half a Muslim trans European division a little bit better in West Central Africa division. Nearly seventy percent so this variability what you see from here is that the visions where the church is growing rapidly such as South Africa Indian Ocean Division the one the tallest bar the greatest growth is there was at this period but the fewest members and that is because new converts are coming into the church with no experience and had to such occasion and this is causing a concern in what Seventh Day Adventist believes we believe we have seen an increasing diversity of views on the fundamental doctrines of the Seventh Day Adventist Church Adventists are clear about the Sabbath and they're clear about the Second Coming but from there there is falling off of a whole range of things and some of the areas where there's a great deal of diversity is for example state of the dead Seventh Day Adventists who are not clear about what happens when somebody dies never mind doctrines like the investigative judgment which is even lower and you can understand why their new converts they've had Mark Finley or some other. Mass of ANGELES A man that doctrines went by quickly they come into the church but they are not grounded in it and there's another reason why when you look at what experiences with Adventists education our pastors have. Years of Adventist education for the churches pastors global survey shows that twenty six percent have had less than four years of Seventh Day Adventists education. This isn't showing the number they're not quite sure but the majority says one to four oh no it's a five to nine is a larger one nine to twelve years of Adventists education only sixteen percent those with thirteen or more years. And some have better eyes and I yeah fourteen percent thank you and those with no Atlantis educational eight percent So eight out of one hundred pastors have had no Adventist education whatsoever not even there some unary the one before represents for the most part their bachelor of theology degree but there are pastors who have had no Adventists education so no wonder the congregations themselves are not clear about the twenty eight fundamental beliefs beyond Jesus is coming back again and the Sabbath for this reason we at the General Conference have voted for priorities for education and the first is Adventists identity and mission in the work of Adventists education this is a challenge and some places where we look very much like other schools in terms of our goals the government curriculum is used and increasingly around the world we are following people of other faiths or no faith at all as our teachers and increasingly we are admitting to our programs not Atlantis children these two metrics are going down together or up together the number of non Adventist students is increasing the number of non Adventist teachers is increasing and you already saw the data for the pastors. The next is to increase student access around the world the percentages vary but far too many Seventh Day Adventist students are studying in other schools public campuses sometimes other private and it's not just money I was vice president at Loma Linda University for eight years and there's a fair amount of money there some of those people are still the children of some of those individuals who have means aren't going to our schools for lack of money they are sending their children even more expensive schools than ours so access is an issue not just for those without means but also with means mission focused teachers whether or not somebody is Adventists they need to understand the mission of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and its educational system it's not just academic excellence we have a much broader mission and finally we need to develop leadership I apologize looks leaders hit but its leader ship I'm not sure why I did it that way we have a great need in the system for principals and presidents and boards that function Those are our priorities this is just the review but I will bring it back to work shortly be the core features of Seventh Day Adventists education regardless of the level whether it's preschool primary secondary tertiary graduate school medical school dental school the goals are the same and I think that the goals are shared here with these schools as well first of all I read them to purpose that's why we are in education to restore the image of God and students to develop valid holistic development to emphasize and Trotty of the Bible in all disciplines in the past when Question am a little bit over we have developed three new medical schools for nearly one hundred years we had only one medical school actually the first medical school was AMC at the American medical missionary college John Harvey Kellog was the president started at Battle Creek it moved to Chicago in one thousand nine hundred thirteen it became part of the that's the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Chicago today University of Illinois so our first medical school we lost John Harvey Kellogg moved out we lost that Linda is Medical School Number two it's not till one nine hundred seventy six that we got another medical school ultimate Alice and now in the past could many and we've got three more River Plate was next I think one thousand nine hundred four now we have a medical school in Nigeria one improved one in the Philippines and we are working to get a seventh one in Rwanda which would serve the whole essential Africa division but even in medical education the Bible is core it is central whatever a dental school we're working to develop a new dental school in Brazil and it has to meet of course state regulations to be a dentist but the Bible is central even there. To develop the ability to think and to do to act and this is where work comes in to not merely reflect other's thoughts to develop practical skills for life that's why manual labor is important and prepare students for service in this life and the next for the whole period of existence and you know this is from the book if you Keisha learning to work contributes to each of those and this is too small for for me and perhaps too small for you but learning to work contributes to the development of discipline and self-control within the students' work ethic industriousness and responsibility accountability time management punctuality how to balance study and work problem solving and creativity initiative and persistence and these are things that you simply cannot learn in an English class these are things that have to be learned within the context of doing work to develop interpersonal skills with P.R.'s and supervisors to develop communication skills to develop financial self-sufficiency to understand the relationship between time and money and just a point here no Guinea I think only about twelve percent or so the last I looked at the statistics over the economy is Financial by far the majority the bulk of the economy in popular Guinea is. Bartering so you change the chicken for this or fruit for that and so students when they come to study at one of our schools Pacific admin piss university or Sonoma college do not understand the relationship between time and money and they have they call it work line at they have work line which helps students understand the relationship of how their time relates to money and this prepares them to function in a hash in our in a money a cash economy it's difficult for popcorn or Guinea to get enough workers and to engage the youth in the workforce because they simply don't have the skills they're not good workers work line work habits the vellum good workers and I overheard some of the conversation you had up there which is one of the goals work also help students learn how to be a blessing to others and finally helps them understand and appreciate the meaning of a well deserved Sabbath rest as Seventh Day Adventists we talk a lot about the Sabbath but we should probably talk more about work because the command is to work for six days and rest for one we talk a lot about the resting but we should also talk about what we should be doing on the other six days. Like to. Introduce one example that might be familiar if I know Mario be very familiar this is one of his school's Madeon her academy this is our secondary school in Darmstadt in Germany we purchased it in one thousand nine hundred twenty four it closed it was closed by the secret police in one nine hundred thirty three and then it was close from one nine hundred forty one to one nine hundred forty eight when the German army had occupied it and used it as a hospital when they purchased it they purchased it from an American young lady by the name of Elizabeth Duncan she and her sister is a Dora S. that they were from New York they had established a number of schools is a Dora established in Greece a temple of the arts and Elizabeth purchased this property and established this as the so-called Elizabeth Duncan school there you see a picture of a licit it was some of her or her students this school in all respects except for one was very much like a seventh they happened to school it emphasizes holistic balance development in students it emphasized health in a healthy diet it was on a beautiful state at that time and in all respects but one it emphasized physical development but the physical development was not through downs Lizabeth Duncan was a ballroom dance instructor and the parents were wealthy Germans who sent their daughters to the school to get a balanced development and it was very very successful it was exclusive but then World War One came and so these parents who had means because of the war could not send their their daughters primarily there anymore and eventually we bought it and Elizabeth Duncan moved to Paris where is a Dora had already started another school and then eventually she moved to Austria the ball room in this school modern her school here where the girls learn bounce a ballroom dancing today is the chapel of our school there it's remarkable to me that Ellen White could distinguish what elements of education were. Wholesome and good and which elements to reject in almost all respects it was the saying except Ellen White while she promoted physical development she did not promote them and this was built around downs and in the end it failed the same in the area of health there were many health reform asylum what was not the whole the whole the only one. Sylvester Graham or the graham cracker that still exists today was whole wheat whole wheat cracker so something she knew to keep other things like when she went to the Danville sanitarium she rejected there at that than the sanitarium James White became ill he was there but she rejected certain elements she saw there such as the recreation the playing of cards and lounging out she wanted James to get out and do work she even told the neighbors at one point don't help them with the field she wanted him to get out and have hard physical work so she could distinguish during the trans of her day which things were of God and which were not because the Lord revealed these things to her and this school is still functioning today after the war the church again got it one of the trends today in many of our schools is to develop a gymnasium and at. One of our schools right now is investing a lot of money to do that and one of the arguments that I have heard put forward is if we don't have a gymnasium that the others do students will go elsewhere it's cold where they with the school is and they're convinced about the need to have a gymnasium in order to retain students Well Ellen White covered this ground too and I just read one quote there she says those a combined useful labor with study have no need of gymnastic exercises and work performed in the open air is ten fold more beneficial to health than indoor labor nothing short of nature's invigorating air and sunshine will fully meet the demands of the system the tiller of the soil finds in his labor all the movements that were ever practiced in the gymnasium his movement Romas the open fields and she goes on here I just happened to be visiting one school that has a huge physical education program and and I saw students there doing some work and I just happened have another picture of somebody else who's doing some gardening and surely doing the same type of motion and even more with the the long term result of having something to show for his effort I personally am not in support of this move of investing a lot of money into gymnasiums and then the collecting the things that Ellen White through council has has given us. Importance of practical labor for optimal growth and development more counsel from Ellen White if the youth can have but a one sided education which is of the greater consequence a knowledge of the sciences with all the disadvantages to health and life or knowledge of labor for practical life we on hesitatingly answered the latter if one must be neglected let it be the study of books the two should go together out some of you no. No no this gentleman I don't know if he then. Banking on that. Hope. Perhaps you don't well he has done some workshops on agriculture and here is an example of two trees that he planted one using methods that he has studied and developed the first tree is with the the method that he in reading Alan White and other books has developed and the second one they were planted at the same time it's hard to see on here but this is the one tree planted at the same time using these it's a good principles agricultural development here are two planted at the same time just using normal math it's and it had the same amount of water it's just a difference in how soil but it's the same with the development of young people we can put them in a school and if you use the right methods. That are revealed to us through Scripture and the writings of Alan White with the same passage of time we can get more balance healthier development than if we just go way of the world. And you all know this Madison college was to be an example of balance education Avondale college also was to be an example one time she wrote back from from MA Horan bong from Australia to Battle Creek she said no winds of Battle Creek flowing here referring to Battle Creek college because there was a continual struggle about where to place it she said put it in the countryside they put it on a city block and Avondale was put way out in the countryside and so was Madison but she writes much acceptable work has been done in Madison the Lord says to go forward the school is to be an example of how Bible study general education physical education and sanitarium work may be combined in many smaller schools that shall be established and simplicity in many places in the southern states and I know that many of you count yourself to be the grandchildren of Madison college following from that although Madison itself does not exist and I have said that I hope somebody would do a dock of this or Taishan on what happened to its demise so that we can learn those lessons and ensure the vitality of our organizations into the future but she did say that there should be many smaller ones and so I congratulate all of you who are carrying out that mission she writes the work that the labors have accomplished at Madison has done more to give a correct knowledge of what an all round education and I noticed Charles used those words yesterday and all round we don't say that anymore and today's language would probably say all around but all round and all round education means that at any other school that has been established by Seventh Day Adventists in America the Lord has given these teachers in the south an education that is of highest value and it is a training that God would be pleased to have our youth reveal receive a balanced development and here you see a shirt from well I won't say anybody know where this is from one of our schools like to study that little bit longer while I read she writes a return to simple methods will be appreciated by the children in youth work in the garden and field will be an agreeable change from the wearisome routine of abstract lessons this is new ball college at Sylvia's garden there on the compound and today it's on the British heritage list as a as a garden to be protected but it is truly beautiful and a privilege to be able to do there when I was a student we would have these work days everybody students and teachers would get out and do the raking and on time at that time they still had a farm we would all get out there for a full day bring in the potatoes that was a lot of fun students and teachers alike but that no longer is there but they still maintain the gardens and truly our campuses should be beautiful places. She writes gardening and nature no line of manual training is of more value than agriculture let the teacher call attention to that what the Bible says about agriculture in the study of agriculture that speak given not only vary but practice and this is what is wonderful about work programs the opportunity to apply what is learned or and to see the results aesthetic and social development promoted this is Sonoma Adventist college anybody even there this is on the remote island of New Britain. The Pacific Ocean politically belonging to popular New Guinea and she writes in planning for the culture of plants let the teacher seek to awaken an interest and beautifying the school grounds and the school room a double benefit will result that which the pupil seek to putrefy they will be unwilling to have marred or be faced a refined taste a love of order and a habit of caretaking will be encouraged and the spirit of fellowship and cooperation well will provide the pupils a lifelong blessing so Nama college has about four hundred students there coming from the remote islands of the Pacific if you look at a map of the Pacific there tiny little spots of islands students come from these remote islands there it's expensive in the Pacific to fly from these places to Sonoma So when they get there they stay there all for years some are coming from the highlands of Papua New Guinea from villages where they're living in huts right over the dirt with chickens and pigs billet beneath it houses are on painted and here it is call work line when we do accreditation visits we always ask students what do you like best about this college at this school a group of boys said what they like the best about Sonoma college was work by so we asked them why you like work he said because we learn how to do things we learn how to paint we learn how to fix electrical things we do things that we never got to do at home many of these students are quite poor when I was there two young men. Had didn't have enough they had enough money to get there and spend one semester but then their money ran out so they were working full time in the gardens and this campus is truly lovely one of the Faculty members of Filipino ma'am directs the work line for they the grounds and he teaches them how to plant rice by hand he said there when they go back to their villages they're not going to have machines so he wants them to learn how to do it they'll do it there and he told me about another student who went to the Highlands to do his student teaching he got to that remote village and the very first thing he did was instruct all his little students to start cleaning up the school yard and to start planting making some plantings and their school yard looked so nice that this was a young man but he knew what to do when he got to that village and it was beautiful like this campus that's what work draws students and help the an appreciation for beauty and how to when they leave those places to replicate that in their places of life and service agriculture to improve school meals and she writes here study in agricultural lives should be the B. and C. of the education given in our schools this is the very first work that should be entered upon our school should not depend upon imported produce for grain and vegetables and the fruit so essential to health Pacific and Adventists University near Port Moresby is a good example of this they have a large property and a very big campus farm in which they grow everything means and. Squashes a lettuce and tomatoes and also some cash crops like Vanilla the orchids which they are able to harvest and sell and the best other products they have made a contract with the supermarkets Portmore speak which is a capital city a popular New Guinea they sell the best produce to the supermarkets by contract and not so beautiful once they use on the cafeteria but I can tell you they still hook right there just wonderful fresh picked things and once a week was a twice a week they have a farmer's market where people come to their campus to buy things as as well and students learn how to grow things the fruit of work to bless others so she writes so also a new interest may be given to the work of the garden and pupils are encouraged to remember those shots. So already they have opportunity for learning how to be a blessing one of the things about gardening as when things get right it gets right because it is all it wants and it causes you to think of who you can give the zucchinis to and other things that are just an excess Using got second book to teach. Again continue with Alan White she writes of the almost in numerical lessons taught in the varied process of growth some of the most precious are conveyed in the Saviour's parable of the growing seed as parents and teachers try to teach these last of the work should be made practical that the children themselves prepare the soil and so the seed and we've heard some of those stories yesterday and even this morning the great teacher brought his hearers in contact with nature that they might listen to the voice which speaks and all created things and as their hearts become tender and their minds receptive he help them to interpret the spiritual teaching of the scenes upon which their eyes rested so we should teach That's a teaching method for us bringing young people in contact with nature allowing it to be quiet enough so they can hear the Lord speak there is a nurse a faculty member at the moment a University School of Medicine Dr Bernadine Irwin who works with troubled young teens and one of the things she does is take these troubled inner city teens on retreats either to the mountains or to Catalina Island and so many of these troubled young teens have never been outside of the city before just being out there on the mountain speaks to them she's written above the book on that called Jessica's story just a short term intervention and how that allows students to hear God's voice young people directly contact with nature and God she writes There is a simplicity and purity in these classes directly from nature that makes them of the highest value the children in youth all classes of students need that last and to be derived from this source in itself the beauty of nature leads the soul away from sin and worldly attractions and toward purity peace and God For this reason the cultivation of the soil is good work for Children and Youth it brings them into direct contact with nature and nature's God This anybody recognize this campus. Somebody at lunch who said he studied here this is Adventists International Institute of Advanced Studies in the Philippines. It was after AAA accreditation visit we talked with students and one of the students I don't remember he came from Pakistan are India he came with his young family two little boys and he said when they got to this campus they boys ran across these green lawns and they have little play areas this is graduate only master's degrees and doctoral degrees and it's especially caters to young families because he's a graduate students and they normally have children so they're little swing sets and she saw in other places for the children to play so the boys ran across the lawn to this little play area and they played a bit they sang on the slangs and then they came back and then he said the little one looked up at him and he said that he are we in heaven that's what our campuses should be like and if we bring young people in contact with nature God is able to speak. Manual training and practical duties when the child is old enough to be sent to school Alan White writes The teacher should cooperate with the parents and manual training should be continued as part of his school duties that said he thought there cooperate with the parents because in many instances the parents are not very cooperative and at the end of this I am going to call for some discussion on how we can address some of the obstacles one of the obstacles are parents who do not understand why when they're ready to pay good money why their child is having to do some work many think that these things the practical duties of life are no part of the school work but this is a mistake the lessons necessary to fit one for practical usefulness should be taught to every child in the home and to every student in the schools now many of us are getting students who have not learned these practical duties in the home and so we've got a handicap to start with and then when these programs are implemented the parents themselves are part of the resistance development of happiness of industry a White writes that manual training is deserving of far more attention than it has received multitudes of our boys what thus be kept from the street corner and the groggery and the youth themselves trained to habits of industry and skilled in lines of usefulness a productive laid labor who can estimate their value to society and to the nation Papa New Guinea is one of those places where the town of Port Moresby is really quite frightening I have never gone sightseeing import more speak just because of safety I I go to the campus and I am glad when I get back I'm relieved when there is not a barricade across the road with somebody trying to stop us and rob us there are entirely too many young people especially young men who've gotten an education and I'm not talking about adding to his education in the public system who now have been. The attached from their traditional way of life they are no longer living in the village they don't have the work skills to be attractive to employers They lot of beetle not which is really quite disgusting see a lot of these red spots on the road the beetle not gets kind of frothy and then to me it looks like public blood when they spit it out in fact the plane that I took there the last plane said they're not spit beetle not on the ground of the plane you have to wear slippers and you can't spit on the plane floor but they ate they chew beetle not which is a mild stimulant have nothing to do have a lot of the hormones are running of young manhood are not in their village where social constraints can moderate their behavior and so they are just loitering and it waiting for some for us to go by who's purse they can snatch and there's a high incidence of rape there as well they simply have been on fitted for life in modern society so while they can read they can do the numbers they don't have the work habits to enable them to get viable employment and so they're just they're in limbo and angry anger and it's it's a dis service education has been a disservice to them compared to the experience that students get at Sonoma Adventist college or it is ific Adventist University where through the work study program not what happens in the classroom but through what happens at work study they develop the types of skills that make them attractive to employers but the key to any work study program is supervisors and she writes about that. Manual training is deserving of far more attention that it has received school should be established that in addition to the highest mental and moral culture for provide the best possible facilities for physical development and industrial training instruction should be given in agriculture manufacturing covering as many as possible of the most useful trades also of household economy healthful cookery sewing hygenic dressmaking the treatment of the sick and kindred lines gardens workshops and treatment should be provided and the work in every line should be under the direction of skilled instructors in my work and in my assessment of schools around the world this is what I see as the greatest need supervisors of work study programs there is not a lack of need of human hurt in this world there's not enough food there's not enough of healthcare but we just don't have enough people who are able to supervise students a work study programs and teachers are already full time busy doing just what they need all through and I think it's a lack of vision on the part of ministration that they don't see the need to employ people as part of payroll to oversee the work education at Sonoma college a coach about the Filipino man he is employed full time he teaches and he has time but some of the teachers there are just resentful of any additional demands being made on them because they've got families to care for they have the Friday evening meetings they have Sabbath evenings or while pathfinders and it's just not fair to ask them to do anything more the administration needs to see the need for it and employ people to oversee these programs theory and practice and study agriculture that people speak of and not only the theory but practice while they learn what science can teach and micarta nature and the preparation of the soil the value of different crops and the best methods of production let them put their knowledge to use that teach share the work with the students and show what results can be achieved through skillful intelligent effort and on this point if teachers are to be involved in overseeing work study should be part of their teaching loud that it needs to be calculated in with what they're expected to do because they do have other responsibilities as well that's what comes under a vision of the administration when we do and I valuation we look at the finances too and I ask let me see your budget line for work study programs and all too many places have just a pittance in there which tells me they don't have a viable program if they're not budgeting for it and if there are assigned people it's simply cannot be successful it's just going to be sporadic on the goodwill of an individual person she saw agriculture is contributing self-support these are those at Ethiopia Atlantis college and a remote place south of. That they don't have many trees but they have some and this is a place where you just can't go across the street to the shop you have to learn to be self-sufficient there she writes students should be given a practical education in agriculture this would be. In essence will value to many in their future work the training to be obtained and in felling trees and can move over to apologize this is so tiny and felling trees and in tilling the soil as well as in literary lines is the education that our youth should seek to obtain agricultural open resources for self-support other lines of work adapted to different students may also be carried on at the cultivation of the land will bring a special blessing to the workers we should so train the youth that they will love to engage in the cultivation of the soil their riches Schama nay they have large fields as many of our properties do and they grow spelt there but I didn't see that they were systematically involving students in that work and that's because students are generally terrible workers they're unreliable they don't know what to do they have a test they they make excuses for why they're not going to be there and it gets frustrating for the farm manager who is depending on students to be able to do this and that's why the staff need to understand the philosophy and know that students come in terrible workers they need to learn how to work that's why they're there and it they just have to do it over and over and over again as each new group of students come in it will be the same group of sort of frustrations because they don't know how to do this yet so you need somebody who has a vision and the patience to do it over and over again directors of work and manual labor and Alan White writes a march larger number of young people need to have the advantages of our schools they need the manual training course which will teach them how to live an active energetic life under wise judicious godfearing directors the students are to be taught different kinds of labor each branch of the work is to be conducted in the most thorough systematic way that long experience and wisdom can in Able us to plan and execute and some exemplars here our university in Mexico and Dr Markel Kaurna chuck the vice president of academics there has a vision for how the work program fits in the overall program of education it's structured it's grounded in a philosophy of service and it's sufficiently overseen another good example is Mountain View college in the Philippines in the Philippines there are number of schools that have students who come from very poor places there are many islands of the Philippines that come from remote islands again living and that have bamboo slats and chickens and pigs underneath and when they come to school they don't have the money or the skills to be productive in the work study program by the way Mountain View has a great worm farm to the its tropical places there's a lot of organic material and they use these worms to compost the organic material and then use the compost to fertilize the grounds it's a wonder and they even sell the sell the worms as well Dominican Adventists University also has uses worms composting and they use the kitchen waste as well as material from the grounds to compost and then use that compost in the grounds. But it takes effort I just was speaking to hope operetta show the new academic vice president who has revitalized the work study program at Mountain View and she put a full time director in that program who supports the philosophy of service and then oversees and all students are expected to do four hours free her week and then they can do additional work some students there on the eight year program or the ten year program meaning it takes them ten years to get a bachelor's degree and that's because they cannot study full time they don't have money but what a blessing that in ten years time they're able to get an education and not only that not just a degree the skills of self-sufficiency and a variety of work areas and I see Filipinos around the world in Africa some of the most challenging places because they become very industrious they learn how to do a variety of things they have the initiative and the persistence at the time it seems like a terrible setback that you can't finish in four years but what you learn in those ten years equips them for for truly useful service in some of the most challenging parts of the world. Or Japanese word for or continuous quality improvement work doing things I heard it here in your discussion doing things over and over again there is value in doing that I think of a I used to teach University of Illinois College of Medicine as the assistant dean there and I was talking to the head of the surgery clerkship he was a surgeon and he said I can always tell which medical student is is going to go into surgery and the one who is going to go in some other discipline he said the student that comes and we're doing a hernia repair and they say oh no not another hernia repair he said I know that student is not going to become a surgeon so the student that's going to come a surgeon will say right now this time I'm going to get the tension on the stitches right and they do it very carefully I was asked to write a recommendation for one of the medical students wants it she wanted to go into surgery and so I asked her What are your hobbies she said I love doing cross-stitch I go to the the craft store and I look at all the cross stitch patterns and then off take a new on and I asked Don't you get bored doing it like on another cross the scruff stitch projects on I just doing it just right and I'm sure she made a great surgeon who can take pleasure in getting the stitch just right that's the kind of person I want doing my surgery as well so doing things over and over again is in itself a lesson on Ellen White Rights manual training should develop habits of accuracy and thoroughness people should learn fact and system they should learn to con a Mies time and make every move count they should be inspired with ambition constantly to improve let it be their in aim to make their work as nearly perfect as human brains and hands can make it. Too many students feel bored but they are missing the opportunity to learn the lesson inherent in a task and doing it more efficiently coming up with a new creative way to do things when exemplar here is Union College Union College in my view has one of the best work programs of any of our credited colleges in North America and that is because students apply for a job at Union College they fear going to work in the student accounts office they interview just as if they were going for a job they have to trust properly they were interviewed by the staff they get periodic evaluations just as if they were a regular employee they get that feedback they have opportunity to improve and by the and of the four years those students appear professional they are able to come the self as an end to the working world and it's because of the way the staff Union College treat their students when we did the interview with B. the staff and the faculty that's the only college where I heard the staff say things like this and the staff I mean the director of the accounting office or the person working and records are the one working in the the maintenance area they say our students and fill in the blank even though they're not in the classroom they see that they have a role in educating our students and I credit Dr Dave Smith with that he built a real spirit of a spread a core among the faculty it's not faculty over here doing the esoteric things and the staff doing menial supervisory things but they all saw themselves as part of the team educating our students there at Union College. He sing myself here there at Union College they have the Ortler Center which is the guest services and when you go to the artist center as I do if I can stay on campus I do rather than stay in a hotel I'm greeted by a student I'm checkin by a student I'm given my room card I'm told when breakfast is an all of the various things then the students clean the rooms and then when I leave the students check me out students get that experience right there in customer service so they're not employing outsiders or regular staff people as an administrator I understand why it's so tempting to hire staff because students are unreliable they're not there all the time and so you've got to get the job done but they and that's Sharon. Russell Sharon Russell the wife of Malcolm Russell is the one that oversees or centered she too had a vision for how this fits in with students overall education crisis model the work ethic and ultimately it's Christ himself he had thirty three years and he chose to do thirty of those doing ordinary kinds of things he's going to say the whole world the universe but yet he lived what seemed to be a very ordinary life in his earthly life Christ was an example to all the human family he learned the cartridges trade and work with his own hands in the little shop at Nasser and as he worked in childhood and youth mind and body were developed in the children and in youth and ambition should be awaken to take their exercise and doing something that will be beneficial to themselves and helpful to others he Christ was not willing to be defective even in the handling of tools he was perfect as a workman as he was perfect in character work is not something that is beneath us as human beings some models that I've already mentioned of having very good work study programs Mountain View college also not in the Philippines and in the now not college in those on in the Philippines this is another place where students might take eight years ten years to finish their education because they're working central Philippine Adventists college in this case the unions have built the little houses so that so-called working students can live in them work and they take as long as they take because they're working. They also cook their own food which is not ideal because they just eat a lot of rice and that's about it they're working students I do think that it's important that even working students eat in the cafeteria as much as possible because students left to their own devices will eat peanut butter and bread and and rice and rice and rice and important it's important for them to get an adequate nutrition they have to learn that to solve Adventist University this is on Russia they have rain houses this isn't a cold place in Russia but very good greenhouses and in the summer time an open farm Avondale college and both Friedan's our university Avondale an Australian Friedan's Our have a nursing home nearby which provide students with opportunities for work and I know one of your schools that is like sure which one Yours has a nursing home which it's wonderful giving them opportunity to learn work skills to be a blessing to pring joy to the nursing home residents and also gain a perspective they could not gain and any other way university only on it has a bakery and it also has a print shop a very active print shop both of which the bakery provides bread in a large area in Peru and the print shop printing services also outside for the whole Union as well as outside learning the duties of practical life various industries should be carried on in our schools the industrial instruction even should include the keeping of accounts carpentry and all that is comprehended in farming preparation should be made for the teaching of blacksmithing I don't know what that would be today maybe it might be computer repairs or Charles thank you Phil but you did we might we might. Change that to computer repair rather than blacksmithing today painting shoemaking and for cooking baking washing mending typewriting imprinting every power at our command is to be brought into this training work that students may go forth well equipped for the duties of practical life for the lady students there are many employments which should be provided that may have a comprehensive and practical education they should be taught dressmaking gardening flowers should be cultivated love that it's not just the practical things but the aesthetic ponit strawberries planted Thus while being education educated and useful labor they will have healthful or exercise in white was so practical so wise this is not outdated concept council women today it's just the fact that women still have primary responsibility for the home for childcare they need to learn these even in our modern society even if they have a career of their own out a sucka a little bit about finances the cost of running these programs and they do cost money there's no way around it and. Face that obstacle to the objection she writes most often urge against industrial training in the schools is the large outlay and bald but the object is worthy of the cost no other work committed to us is as important as the training of the you and every outlay He-Man did for it's right accomplishment is means well spent when we do accreditation visits I mention we look at the finances and with your own accreditation work I would recommend that you look at the finances of the schools are they really allocating the needed resources for a successful work study program we cannot expect it to succeed if the budget does not allocate for the student supervision first of all and then for whatever costs are associated with that line of work and she writes even from the viewpoint of financial results the required for manual training it would prove the truest economy expenditure for gardens workshops and Babs would be more than met by the savings on hospitals and riff reformatories and the youth themselves trained to habits of industry and skilled in lines of useful and productive labor who can estimate their value to society and to the nation. You cannot say this but I will provide a copy of this to your on the memory stick but this is developed by the rain Siebold it was used that we mar academy and it is a rubric that is used by those supervising students and work study programs to assess their competence in the degree to which we can see a few of these words. So the very first one there is dress and it goes from the highest level of competency to the lowest level competency communication skills perseverance persistence and so on so this will be a useful tool and perhaps many of you already have something like this but just like in the classroom if you don't grade it if you don't assess it it communicates that student it's not important they need to be clear about what the skill is that you're seeking to develop as they do it Union College and then given that feedback and this is tagged to specific competencies and descriptors. The next one is a graphic that was developed by Dr Randy Siebold when he was it we mark college and it describes their work education program and we mark and he this is the agricultural class and he writes that this is a lab class which meets on the farm it was taught by somebody named Rocco and it says he will work as able with a college an academy biology teachers a class may be repeated or advanced may also have an improved exercise plan or recreational activity then there was a vocational apprenticeship training program he identified volunteer teachers the class size the Sunday class times. The apprenticeship being long term or full time internships connected to a course of study and campus jobs there were two types of work programs they had there the non-paid ones and the paid campus jobs the non paid ones included agriculture and an outdoor exercise class and approved outdoor exercise plan and recreational activities were part of that they were vocational A punish upand training classes and then in turn ships that possibly could be paid related to a discipline and this will have on the the memory stick there are also some external resources perhaps already aware of them the work colleges consortium and this is the it's a consortium of schools that have active work study programs some of them are faith based and others are not but the works that a consortium they share two fundamental beliefs first that a college experience should educate the whole person same thing we say second earning a college degree shouldn't require a lifetime of debt and I think we would also agree on that it Cora FISON when I see the amount of debt the students have coming out of Loma Linda University. Through an innovative approach to work learning service all work college students offset college costs by participating in a mandatory work program performing service in their communities most positions are limited to eight to fifteen hours per week is on to enhance a student's academic studies and work Herning service approach teaches students the critical balance of study service to others and managed work expectations a neighbor website work colleges dot org or read one more slide from the work colleges consortium according to law an eye for years of purposeful work has a lifetime up and payoff graduates of work colleges enter their careers prepared with real world skills and knowing reduced or no debt research confirms that a work earning service approach to higher education builds character work ethic leadership and competence in critical thinking in time management skills these actual peers are directly transferable to the workplace and are among the characteristic employers say that they most need if you go to the website you'll see more resources related to work study. For us though and for Ellen White work was related to an even longer term goal than being able to take up a job that was preparing young people for foreign service or for outreach opportunity and Ellen White writes you know the usefulness learned on the school farm is the very education that is most essential to those who go out as missionaries to many foreign fields if this training it is given with with the glory of God in view great results will be seen no work will be more factual than that gotten by those who taint an education and practical life to go forth mission fields with a message of truth prepared to instruct as they have been instructed the knowledge they have obtained in the killing of the soil and other lives of manual work and which they carry with them to the fields of Labor will make them up lasting even in heathen lands I was in Bolivia Bolivia Atlantis university and I met Peter Schmidt who is a good example of that he learned printing skills he took those skills with him to pull living up he now has a very active printing press on the campus they employ some students not many but they do employ some and he has been a tremendous blessing for the work of the church in in Bolivia which is a fairly. Once a repressive government but it's a challenging environment in which to are very practical skill of printing He says that and he's been able to bring in fact his relatives even country and contributed to by a printing process he prints all the Sabbath school lessons for the country he even developed the small little pocket size of a school lesson for the students that they could easily carry the books and so on but someone who's working in a challenging place with very practical skills like to spend their remaining time and then get some comment from you on obstacles obstacles to two successful programs external legal regulations and I'm sorry I missed the presentation yesterday they switched the order around on legal regulations parental expectations I mentioned the Elizabeth Duncan school but we have examples even among our own myths I hear this complaint at our schools that parents are sending their children or their. Young adult children to university and they don't want them out a farm it want them learning skills for white collar jobs the student expectations themself and student ignorance about the benefits of work study and I've heard these complaints at places like Salusa University in Zimbabwe which was economic train wreck the country for years has really really suffered and even their students did not understand the benefit of works that they had huge farm they had a huge farm they had a reservoir they had a large lake and they had pretty much an idle far in the midst of this economic desert for the lack of having the vision of a developing the farms at one time they had been years they had they still had the orange trees but they had just let them go and they were no longer cultivated then they brought a farm manager from the U.S. that was good but the farm manager. Got distracted and married a local girl and the farm just didn't do very much and so the last time I was there the farm still was just idle with the East to pick water sources and this huge property and the students themselves who are resisting it in the face of truly truly difficult economic situation the students only had two meals a day there just wasn't food out there and they could have had it they could have grown and the thing there and they had the water the land but there it was lack of vision and the lack of management that cock University eight thousand students in Nigeria and they're one of the good things as they putrified the campus the past president his wife had a Ph D. in agriculture and so she had really invested a lot of energy in developing a nursery and it's a beautiful campus but only a limited number of students of the eight thousand were involved in a work study program and the students themselves there and at university of Eastern Africa paratime one had very different ideas about what they should do in a university and that did not include work in fact the student government there at one of those two universe I won't name which one when they were elected they collect fees from all the students they used it to get a S.U.V. And a driver for the president of the student government so that you could be driven from one place to another at that's how the world that is house to many leaders in Africa and other places when they get the power and they get the resources they they don't use it to benefit others they use it to benefit themselves the election I was at one time or another campus during elections and the campaigning there was the campaigning you would expect to hear in a public set. Where the students were promising this a promise that you put in office and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that which primarily was adversarial to the administration which again that's what we see in the world and that's not leadership that we want to cultivate and this is where a good robust work study program will help students develop the types of attitudes of service of leadership that we want from Haven't is that you cation when you get to Big Five six seven eight thousand it's difficult to oversee a large work study program without without meeting structures then there are internal obstacles the need to manage workers to teach students how to work this is the challenge I saw there. They had put all their hopes on this one American farm manager who got distracted and then it just didn't go and I think it ministration itself did not use resources closer at home that it could have and they underestimated the benefit that could be made by focusing energy on developing a work program the cost of management it will cost money to manage these programs well and misunderstanding spirit of criticism a lack of collaboration with the organized church I see this as an obstacle the schools in the east say you have you're doing far more with work study then in many of our organized schools but we need to have more interaction more collaboration and I think there's misunderstanding in criticism on both sides I often tell our organized schools that these schools are more Adventism the Adventist schools that we accredit but we need to have a spirit of collaboration between both those that are working in the organized part of the church and those that are. Working in and self-supporting institutions. We need as I said more collaboration between our schools an example of where it has been difficult and. Dr Cabaniss Maybe you remember the times call the parents school now it's university IT way it is it was it grew out of the get way out into school with some parents who are dissatisfied primarily with the cost of adding to situation they started their own and it's huge now they even have a medical school. But they compete with the they organize institution with tuition rights and for that that can be an area of competition because a self-supporting school in some ways has less overhead. Because I don't know all the reasons why but one might be in adequately funding a retirement plan and I do think that needs to be addressed in funding so that at the end of a long career somebody has some buffer. But they are competing and there's been I think stealing a workers one way and the other so when schools are in close proximity we need to even have more collaboration and more communication so that we don't develop a spirit of competition but spirit of collaboration there are many privately owned schools that are operated by Adventists lay people some of these An example is in Bangkok in Thailand or some that are doing great work like Helen hall she turns eighty years old this year she started a school on the board of me and Martin Thailand for these displaced people a wonderful work about a thousand students there having to independently raise funds India Africa has many private schools that is owned by Seventh Day Adventists lay people but the church they organize work and these self-supporting or private businesses and we really have to make concerted effort to foster collaboration and shared mission then there are I think just general issues that that inhibit. Collaboration one of them is use of the S.T.A. brand in legally in order to use Seventh Day Adventists in the title or name of a school it has to be owned and operated by the church not a private business or private independent five A one c three in this country and that can create hard feelings and misunderstanding. Developing Corporate know how across the system I think many of our organized schools can learn from what you all are doing in your schools but we need a forum for developing and sharing that corporate know how how to manage these programs successfully and I think one forum could be the Journal about interest education and I invite you to consider writing for The Journal about anticipation to share what you have learned with Adventists education broadly that's in foreign languages English Spanish Portuguese and French I think another obstacle to successful work study programs in our independent schools or our self-supporting schools is a development of cult of personality that can happen in our own schools or the inability to pass the vision to successes and I've been asking some questions why why did Madison fail. To sell them and had a great vision how did that falter what how did how did that not get passed on and that's that's a challenge one of your schools can develop a lot of capacity as a strong leader that strong leader goes someplace else how do you pass that vision on. How do you ensure that it continues strong and in the future and port governance is another thing that's boards ultimately are responsible for passing on vision and ensuring vitality of the mission into the future here's a picture that I saw when I was driving through it way. It was just out in the middle of Norway no way nor nowhere in Rwanda and if you can Kenya Rwanda if you learn if you learn Kenya Rwanda while you were there heard a little bit akin euro bond up well I don't understand Kenya Rwanda either completely but I could understand this part here it says Pastor Teddy Wilson Not exactly and I was told it says something essential that I'm a follower of Pastor Teddy Wilson So this this cult personality of cult can happen in any place can happen in not following a long white or other law or today hit Wilson I leave us with this. This is from Paul and Paul writes to the Corinthians I appeal to your brothers and sisters in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that all of you agree with one another and what you say and that there be no divisions among you but that you be perfectly united in mind and my brothers and sisters some from Chloe's household and for me that their quarrels among you what I mean is this one of you says I follow Paul another I follow policy another I follow safeness still another I follow Christ is Christ provided was Paul crucified for you will you baptize in the name of Paul therefore as it is written let the one who posts boast in the Lord and I think that's where we need to keep our eye whether we're working in the organized work of education whether you're working in an independent school whether you are private business person who have your your own business like a shoe shop or in this case it would be a school one of the schools here is private and it says right in its mission statement this school follows the philosophy of the Seventh Day Adventist Church it's one university get way you go to their website you'll see right in their first paragraph of what their own primarily by one family it's a family business but they put right up there we follow the philosophy of the Seventh Day Adventist Church whatever side of the road let us keep in view our mission as educators to engage in that redemptive process he keep our eyes on Christ the purpose for which we're doing and to find unity and collaboration in our system overall thank you so time for a question or two or comment or two my question is how could we expand the Corporate know how that has been developed in schools over the last hundred years. In their work program this is an area that you are still strong and we do have pockets of it as I pointed out among some of the higher education institutions around the world but overall I think we've pretty much let those one say die but just be the digital elements not much different from any other school system yes or. Sort of to answer the question you asked earlier question as well about the resistance that you receive from from parents and so. In our previous panel it was discussed that. There needs to be cooperation between the family and the church and the schools and that's been a theme that's kind of been a running theme we don't most people don't know the quotes that you posted here right these are in the councils that are to our church and most people don't know them so parents that don't know those are more likely to be resistant to them than parents that are aware of them and so it's it's incumbent upon the churches because how they know without a preacher it's incumbent upon the churches to highlight these councils that we have then people will be able to cooperate with them then the work would be a lot easier. And that even goes with this too we need to share those councils because. A lot of the areas where we see failures the things you pointed out in your presentation a lot of it is variance in the council from if everybody's on the same page then you're more likely to see success in that work than if everybody's just trying to figure out what the right thing is and thank you very much Absolutely it's incumbent upon us. As educators to communicate to parents and it is a challenge when those parents are not Adventists So we need to find creative ways of communicating what makes Atlantis education unique and overall purpose and. What I say it's not primarily financial It's great if students can help defray some of the cost but it's. Qualities of character that it. I see is of the greatest benefit. So. Dr Beardsley's ask a really great question and I'll just respond from the standpoint of the say and say we would like to open a dialogue. On how we can be more effectively used to. The schools and reconnecting with this model and we would be you know this group here has some expertise but we're ready to learn as well. And I think that. I think we need some programs that probably investigate that connection when I say that an opportunity to talk with maybe some schools that are interested in learning more about that model and a place where we could all feel free to. I mean in a sense sometimes we're afraid to talk about the challenges and there are challenges everywhere you know our schools have challenges in terms of you know we're trying and we're experimenting and we try one thing it doesn't work we try something else but I think the more we can share together the greater will be the blessing of all and this is he says first attempt at something like this we would invite a joint account where we would work together to bring schools and teachers together have an interest in pursuing How can we do better at the practical side of education as well but I really seriously would like to hear from anyone here what ideas they would have on how we can further this collaboration as well so please feel free to put your ideas on the table Charles we have a hand here. I just want. The. Parents not being. One thing that I paste when I was. And recognizing that the parents were definitely not on board with what I was trying to. Implement. To begin the conversation. I started a newsletter so that parents can be aware of what I'm trying to do. Because many times fully understand what you're doing it's hard for them to support whatever it is good or bad and so sharing the most in the most positive way possible and hurting those things that this is what's happening and here's why and putting in the council they Bickel references so they can see this is not just an arbitrary thing that we're trying to do but because of this council where trying to implemented this way and please share your views with us and so on and so forth just to begin that conversation to invite them and to a partnership when the no I don't have all the answers and I am here to cooperate with you to raise the child and so I find that they were more willing to come in and sit down we share we may not always find solutions to whatever we're trying to work out but we were now in a more supportive role of each other. They were not so company. And not intimidated by what I'm doing or but we were now on the same team trying to work together to solve a common problem so that's one thing. Well first of all I want to think Dr Beardsley or I mean and also for the safer Irgun eyes in this event and what I want to share has to do with with the question that you asked and rather Dyckman was addressing how to. Foster greater cooperation between you know self-supporting type schools and colleges and denominational schools and colleges I think that this event is one step in that direction because I saw you know that people from both types of work that are in education coming together and as we do more of these events and perhaps in Vining people that are also leaders in the nomination of schools to be part of the event maybe breaking us up into groups small groups discussion groups how are you doing this that could help us start working together I'm done with her to check out. My wife Debbie Baker who's her president and for the last ten years she has been a member of the Georgia Cumberland conference executive committee and also on their education board and. They have a they have a ten year limit for term. And so she's just. Finished her term but they asked her to continue on their education board. And they've expressed to us how much they appreciate working together with us. In a cooperate of effort and I would suggest it would be good for other conferences to establish those kind of relationships that's that's written into the bylaws of the Georgia Cumberland conference that they have a member of self-supporting institution on their executive committee and so she serves that role also the. The Southern Union. Invites all of the self-supporting schools in the Southern Union to attend all of their education conferences and screw you know it's through their efforts that we have a close with lation ship and work in a number of ways who operative Lee in our union. For example for a number of years our school has trained other schools in the Southern Union in disaster response and Together schools in the Southern Union have responded to hurricanes and floods and so forth so in our union we have a pretty good level of cooperation between the self-supporting schools and the conference schools and I feel like the model could be replicated in other places. Very good and that's something that I'm in a position to help facilitate from from my position to encourage organize work education to ensure that there is adequate participation with and collaboration with that through partnership that's great and the local church is the other place where I think that that's that's where church really happens. I ensure that there is good communication and and a spirit of collaboration and not a spirit of criticism of some of the independent ministries I tell you every week I get email from. One of these organizations with dirt on something that's happened somewhere in the system and they want me to do something about it. I don't know how they get so much information but they keep making demands and it seems like a full time job is just criticizing the work of the church and human flaws and that. I do think there needs to be accountability but that much it seems like that's all they do it's been talk reduced as in the organized work of the church and that that isn't help at all thank you so thank you for that example I don't feel like I really have an answer but I just want to say thank you for coming in for sharing it's really exciting to me to hear what is going on in the different schools primarily colleges but still exciting to see the things that are happening in the colleges around the world along this line of thought and involving the work education along in the curriculum and what I have just kind of share as you were sharing was God is definitely working you know he is just kind of working all around on all these institutions at the same time this kind of bringing this back to the blueprint and that's exciting yeah the reason I focused on higher education is that the K. through twelve or preschool through twelve is delegated to the divisions so I suggest that you invite Larry black for the future and higher education is the responsibility of the General Conference through the accreditation process so that's what I know about one of the issues that I would like to just address briefly as an educational tool here that's been presented is the use of the S.B.A. brand and I want this group to know what the expectation. Is that we present ourselves as Seventh Day Adventists really people who are operating institutions not seven institutions OK The wording is quite critical for a variety of reasons number one there is a respect for the brand the word seven. It's copyrighted and in order to use that in the proper way you can get to that point but what you need to do is you need to restructure boards and your documents and get an agreement with a Seventh Day Adventist Church and have a. Majority of your board of directors who are from the Seventh Day Adventist the nominations so that the seventh and Mr nomination is actually in control of the organization in a majority on the board so there's a way to do that if you want to use that route and use that name in that way you can get to that point but it takes quite a bit of work to get there the better alternative probably is to simply be careful with your word and I know that I don't see which. She's here hiding just a little bit but I know that we've had several opportunities to look at wording and to talk with legal counsel on certain issues and to make sure that we structure the wording correctly and actually Ysaye itself is restructuring some wording based on recent counsel that we have received so that we're tweaking the wording of our mission statement and the wording of the way we say things so that it is apparent that we are Seventh Day Adventists laypeople operating things not seven they have been institutions So again it's just it's a wording issue but we want to be very sensitive to that because it can make a difference when it comes to legal challenges and other things that are you know we live in a world where there are many opportunities and I say that because. You can be sued for anything by anybody as long as you can pay the lawyers and some people do that they're willing to pay to do that and there's an evil challenges on the table right now that we're dealing with that we're trying to figure out a way to go to the future that makes sense so that we're not embroiled in the same. Conversations that we are now spending a lot of money or counsel in legal fees that should be spent on other things so it's very important issue thanks for bringing that to the table I also would like to challenge you. Dr Beardsley mentioned this but I want to emphasize the opportunity for you to. Put together an article and publish it in the Journal of Adventist education is a huge opportunity for us to show collaboration and to show encourage me now please don't put together a negative article. Let me just let me just put that on the table to start with let's put together stuff that where we can we can encourage each other and show how we can work together and and so I think it's a huge opportunity for us and I hope some here will take up that porch and do something coming here something you do often right here but so that's that's a very significant thing and I thank you for offering that because it is an opportunity for us to begin to enter into the conversation. So how do we go about this in an article. JE dot Adventist organ the guidelines go in you can submit online it will go through the editorial review process and the editors faith then McCarroll there and we would welcome that and once it's published then we make it we if it's a global. Importance we will then translated into Spanish Portuguese and French and you can download it on your app J.A. that happened to go the Apple store are a google and you can download that and search it and I don't work study I searched on work so we don't have anything so we need something on there that's right so that was my question what kind of stuff are you looking for that anything related to philosophy of Adventists education implementation it's. There any level and administrators so you could write on successful work study programs you can have a section for teachers or supervisors or administrator This can be very practical and include some pictures if you like. Yes. Well I I would welcome submissions from there and I would I would suggest that you invite Larry black at a future meeting and I'm going to recommend to him that they have that big teachers conference that they have in two thousand and eighteen that they specifically invite you and that they have a track on one of these like work study I don't think anybody's doing that and that would be an area to have the type of conversation that I heard this morning that would be really I think useful on a broader scale it's going to be in Chicago next summer. I'd like to thank Randy Siebold he did a lot of the research for me he's at Andrews University but formerly it Wiemar like thank you Charles and you felt because without you two gentlemen I would not have this presentation it was locked up on my computer on a very very sick computer that will have to be sent to the I.C.U. and I leave but by the grace of God It's of magic and some counsel with our I.T. people there it's there so thank you so much and Randi Dr N.B.C. but also recommended this book if you're interested in the area of work study program shop class and so. I put that in there as a resource and I think. This media was brought to you by audio verse a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about. Or if you would like to listen to more servant leader Visit W W W audio verse or.


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