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3. The Authority of the Bible in the History of Theology: Reformation to Present

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  • February 7, 2018
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So up to the time of the Reformation the formula was the Bible OK the Bible and. The natural world reason tradition. Except earth except earth think cetera OK we're coming down to the time of the Reformation now with the Reformation we have a new philosophical system. This is just a picture of the reformers Waller and. Switzerland. The Reformation there are specific intent was read to return to the Bible as the foundation of all human disciplines now the Reformation was not perfect Who of us are. But Ellen White sees sees us in line with the Reformation in our job is to complete the Reformation remember the statement there in great controversy there will be a people upon the earth will who will accept the Bible and the Bible alone some only fool rule of faith and in in any way an over against science with the other churches and so on and so forth we will stand accepting the Bible alone OK So sola scriptura. Firm the foundational roles of these Sloyd there are so sola scriptura was their basic. Mantra instead of the Bible and as the Bible alone you know what is what did that mean OK the biblical world view the philosophy must come from where. OK scripture alone not from Aristotle not from Plato not from Con not from because. Most come from Scripture alone but that for the study of scripture most arise out of Scripture itself remember method for the study of scripture with Plato with Origin came from Plato method for the study of scripture for Aquinas came from Aristotle OK so the method for the study of scripture must come from Scripture itself otherwise we are imposing an external philosophical system on scripture and scripture must be its own interpreter compared texts with text but not only texts with facts comparing text with all of Scripture in within the philosophy of Scripture itself so he didn't deny that God could speak through other channels. So God could indeed speak through Pope church councils church history through the natural world except her except her but scripture provided what. OK the only the sole foundation for accepting and a basis for interpret in God's revelation and other areas so I I can gain insights from the history of Christianity but that is not the norm it's not what I decide what insights are valid by Scripture itself not by the Bible and something else of Martin Luther course there were many reformers and Martin Luther who we've just celebrated the. Five hundred years and says they wing of the thesis to the wall did to the door. Bell and why you have some very interesting comments to make about Martin Luther. Fairless way that Luther defend the Gospel from the attacks which came from every quarter the Word of God provided itself a weapon mighty in every conflict notice the word of God provided itself a weapon not Plato Aristotle not com Not the cart OK the Bible provided itself a weapon might in every conflict with that word he warned against I want you to notice this you order against the usurped authority of the Pope against the. OK Which would be Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas of the school than the Schoolman is a code term for. Scholasticism you're right OK Well he stood firm as a rock against the fanaticism that sought to ally itself with reformation and I noticed this each of these Can you think of an important anything more radically different authority in any one man the pope authority in the heads of the Schoolman authority in the excesses of the spirit of Thomas Munster. Dramatically different systems they're all the same how. They also decide the Scriptures and they all put authority in humankind instead of in God's word regardless of their differences they were the same. So as willingly I liked going Lee because he had an experience very similar to mine and I'll tell you about my experience but basically he said the word of God is the only infallible authority you know he's not using a new method but the old note that employed by the church in earlier in pure times and indeed the school. Just let my mind anyway there was another school of thought that was developing along the lines of reformation Unfortunately the school from Alexandria became predominant and swallowed up the other school of thought some people say the Reformation never would have been necessary had the other school of thought prevailed. The unfortunate OK so the mores search the scriptures the clear period the contrast between their truth and the hearses of Rome who did what. Submit of themselves see these other systems submitted themselves to a philosophical system he submitted himself to Scripture. As the Word of God The only sufficient infallible rule he saw that it must be its own interpreter he dared not attempt to explain scripture to sustain a preconceived theory. Start with Earth to fill in as a more Platonism or any other ism. But hell it is duty to learn the direct an obvious teaching of Scripture sought to avail himself of or help to a full and correct understanding of its meaning and he invoked. The Holy Spirit which what he declared reveal it to all who sought it in sincerity in truth in fairness Thomas Aquinas also invoked the aid of the Holy Spirit but nonetheless he was still doing that synthesis instead of relying on Scripture and the power of the Holy Spirit for his theology. So that except the preconceived ideas of the Holy Spirit who would reveal it to all who saw the insincerity in truth so so how is it that we understand scripture scripture the Holy Spirit is there to guide us always Spirit who gave us scripture is there to guide us in the understanding of scripture the scriptures such as willingly come from God not from him and notice this how do you know that the Bible's the Word of God and even that God whom lightens would give you to understand that the speech comes from where from God so as not is not because I found the foundation to put on a nice Scripture that I can accept that is the Word of God is because God is the one who lightens us to understand that it comes from him. So it goes on the. Self loses self and forfeits itself. Been moving down half way I began to give myself wholly up to the Holy Scriptures philosophy and theology scholastic by the way that's Ellen White's parenthesis with always suggests corals to me at last I came to this I thought you must let all that lie and learn the meaning of God purely out of his own simple words then I began to ask God for His light and the Scriptures began to be much easier for me now I had an experience very similar to the. As I mentioned I was raised in the administration through Master of Divinity a seminary in an Old Testament masters of seminary I was working at Biblical research I was in contact with. Theologians all over the world. And none the less I was using a humanistic system rather than a biblical system so I wrote a paper on the history of method of theology some of the materials we've been dealing with came from that. When it was an individual projects with my professor we were going over my paper one day. I had a little summary at the end saying not just reviewing theological systems but than giving my own concept of what theology was most said the task of a theologian is to take the truth of the natural world and the truth of Scripture and synthesize them together and my professor. I considered him kind of a guru who has his specialty was one nine hundred sentry pro religion in America so it kind of fit with you know the period in which our church arose and he had a beard and occasionally you would see a smile come behind his beard in them a little twinkle in his eye and when when you saw that you knew a gem of truth was coming so I saw the smile I saw a twinkle in his eye and I knew a gem of truth was coming he leaned back in his chair a little the he said. You're a good scholastic theologian. Well. With the father he got a knock me off my chair. He could have told me that I had stage four cancer years classic theologians like I said I was very bashful back in those days I didn't answer him I didn't say a word but he leaned back further in his chair and he said. I'm sorry but that's the way it is it took me nine months to get over that. Because I had been taught to think from a humanistic perspective you know didn't Ellen White say higher than the highest human thought can can reach and. Didn't. Say a one eighteen so come let us reason together and didn't Ellen White say that faith is based upon evidence and so I thought that from Scripture and Ellen White I had developed my system of thought. So I was struggling and besides that God is God has given us freedom and so I went back and I had to study those passages one of my professors told me that neighbors eleven one says that faith is based upon evidence. So I went to Hebrews eleven one you know and I checked it out you know I had to read Hebrews eleven twenty times before suddenly it dawned on me that it was not so the food was based upon evidence you're exactly right faith is it's see I've been building a whole theological system based on that interpretation of scripture. Isaiah one eighteen it's doesn't say Come let us reason together the passage starts out you have sent and there also is no I mean they're arguing with God we haven't sinned and God says yes you have to listen or we haven't sinned. You know what are you thinking we have uncertain and then finally God says You think you're going to come and argue with me. You know what I'm going to do something totally unreasonable though your sins be a Scarlet I will make them light and snow so what I had interpreted as a can totally rationalistic interpretation the passage itself was the exact office of. Isaiah Chapter forty which I think we might have a few passages from you know do we think we're going to bring God into judgment fact stand up like a man you know bring God in you think you're going to bring God into judgment. Account for yourself so it's really kind of. What's the right word anyway its intention is not to say Come let us reason together it's it's kind of pushing funk at those who think they're going to come in and reason and bring God into judgment the passage I'm in Illinois where she says it's based on reason she says it's based on reason but not long demonstration so automatically she makes a difference there and then she goes on and tells us how it's based on reason she says there is mystery and God mystery and God and since there's God is beyond reason there's mystery and God and those who accept the god. That is mysterious the mystery and God I mean you would expect out of God is really God there would be parts of him that are mysterious right and so that brings us more faith to see who really is present those who come with doubt. The mystery wrongly increase their doubt. And then she says there's also a mystery in scripture so she's not talking about a rationalistic scientific kind of a system she's talking about you know the power in Scripture itself that we. Open our lives to receive and to transform our lives so anyway I had to go through all of those and more and and studied it and studied a study that like I said I couldn't just read it once because I had been taught to read it in one way and I it was hard to see another way and so I had to put it in this context I had to put in them for passages together to see what they're saying and what will read some of these passages a little bit later about faith. And reason and so on and so forth and so gradually over thirty to nine months unfortunately at the same time not only was I going to Catholic University I had a project that little research which involved studying Ellen White in this specific area so I eventually developed three file dreadfuls of material. From Ellen White so I had the benefit of that along with my study so my professor so that I was a good scholastic theologian OK So remember. For the early church in the mid Middle Ages you start with the concept of reality you either impose it on scripture or you argue directly from that concept of reality to who God is the Reformation has a totally different system if you want to know God were to start you must rely on God's self revelation so here God is revealing himself to the student of Scripture because the student of Scripture has God's Word the world view that comes out of Scripture he can understand both the tree and the flower that's wilted. This morning we were trying to understand the flower that was wilted because of God's Word we can understand that it gives us a lens for understanding that then we can also talk about God because God has revealed Himself to us OK So five years from now are you going to remember those two words. The Bible. And the Bible alone. Remember that five years from now ten years from now twenty years from now when you're teaching your students what are you going to teach them. OK Very good the Bible alone again that doesn't mean that we put an X through science or that we put an X through history or through reason that means that the Bible is the foundation upon which we place our understanding of the entire world and upon which we base our lives the way we live where we think what we teach so long and so forth so the Bible is the limbs the fought philosophy through which the natural world is understood OK so the Reformation built upon the Bible alone knows I've already said they were perfect and that none of us will be perfect but there's a difference between intention. In turn to make the Bible the foundation for my theology and I intend to reinterpret scripture within a philosophical system and see the difference I mean when you're committing yourselves to God's word and I'm asking God to continue to guide in years understanding of the word the other is I'm going to impose a philosophical system on scripture. So my will is the foundation for all human disciplines OK So very shortly after the time of the Reformation there was a period called Protestant scholasticism and I remember Thomas Aquinas was a scholastic It's amazing how quickly this happens in the history of Christianity you know with within two centuries after Christ you have. You have origins. Plate Nies in scripture now by the way I'm not saying I'm not saying these individuals are going to be in heaven I'll leave that to God I mean origin was even a martyr for Christianity so he was a dedicated person but nonetheless he was reinterpreting scripture from a philosophical perspective. So so mediately after the time of Christ you have the beginning of the apostasy of the church you have the Protestant reformation within fifty two hundred years you have Protestant scholasticism which is going back to the methods that were used before the Protestant Reformation. The school of scholasticism in one sense or another has continued down to the present and you find major Protestant theologians who are still using that kind of a system and so in the 1940's I think it was there was a enjoyable movement that rose within the United States by the seventy's and eighty's they were already imbibing the philosophies of other secular scholars around them musings methods that all describe a little bit later so this happens very quickly so we shouldn't think that because we're some of payout in this we're immune to this kind of a system and it's each as the responsibility I thought less service lesson was great the best part of our stewardship that God has intrusted to us the message of salvation and it's it's part of the commitment of our lives to safeguard the message and I know that's the reason many of your schools existant appreciate. So tradition was the authority church tradition but particularly in this is one thing that surprised me I had always thought of tradition as church tradition so it was the Bible in church tradition well come to find out it was more the Bible and the tradition of Greek philosophy that was important so. Particularly the philosophy that came from Aristotle the cosmology of Ptolemy we'll go over that just a second so scripture and nature were to be understood by the authority of the past by the traditions of the church the intellectual traditions of scholasticism particular areas to tell you in Islam things were categorized by their degrees of perfection from you know the earthly Monday things up to the perfect heavenly things there were two distinct worlds God how the one hand in the world of the really real and immutable things in than. The other in. Mutable things of the earth. A shadow of reality and the goal of course was the to be restored to the really real. And so. Freedoms then Lightman came into this era. Of the Reformation had opened up freedoms that we hadn't had before we were each individually responsible to God and have access to God we didn't need to go through intermediaries. Political freedoms we can to open up and the Enlightenment stepped in to the freedoms that were opened up by the Reformation and they also were a reaction to the authority of tradition and the rigidity of the scholastic system and so the development of modern science took place with the philosophical interest in the standings took place within the earth of the Enlightenment. Cosmologies Copernicus coupler Galileo the mixer they suddenly discovered that there were mountains on the moon I mean Aristotle had never described mountains on the moon. Disk discovered the planets were not in orbit around the earth but around the sun and the planets were not in a circular motion but that they were in the left tickle motion and so the Bible had been this so closely tied to that kind of thinking that when they threw out the old scholastic way of looking at the universe they threw the Bible out with the bathwater. And thought that really the Bible was the cause. For the bathwater and so the fight was not really between the Bible and Science it was between scholasticism and science and so many people that want to argue against creation say well look at Galileo were Galileo's fight was with a philosophical system the Bible happened to be caught up in it because people had it unfortunately misused the Bible and used it within a platonic system of thought and so that really should be a lesson for us. Against using philosophical systems as our foundation rather than an argument for using a philosophical system as our Phil nation and so they discover the earth was not the center of the universe the earth was not an orbit or rooms the earth was in orbit around the sun rather than the Sun around the earth planetary. Orbits were a lip tickle to stars etc etc objects filled to the ground because of gravity not because of Newton song apple fall out of the tree but they recognize that the gravity that we have on earth is the same gravity that is holding the universe together and so the universe operates by by gravity just as gravity operates. On Earth planets remain in orbit by the same laws that cause rocks to fall of the ground the same laws and wind on earth light in the heavens the heavens were composed of material substances and on earth they weren't spirituals substances so the reason they said that the planets were in a circular orbit instead of an electrical or that was because a circle was perfect and perfect is divinity and the planets were divinities so they had to be in this circular motion we couldn't be in the other kind of motion therefore though they recognize problems with that and Ptolemy wrote a very very extensive book describing those problems they figured out ways to solve those problems like putting up the circles for they needed to account for a change from. Room to electrical from a circular motion. So the dichotomy between heaven and earth was broken. The same laws applied on earth as in heaven. So the absolute authority of error is to tell you tradition is attending scholasticism was called into question so as to lasting synthesis the integration model was rendered part by Scholastic by the air of the Enlightenment and the Bible the came. Out of New they'll be philosophical systems were placed upon Scripture so science was now Thomas not only from human tradition but also from Biblical guidance. So Francis Bacon for example one of the first considered by some to be the father of the scientific method. So that is that is. Parasitism alone with science alone. With a cart. He was concerned about the skepticism that arose because what happened here we had a very. Very mature philosophical systems that gave us truth for almost two millennia more than two millennia and now all of a sudden those systems fell apart. In just a back up a little bit before plate of Socrates and there is total there were the. Socratic of rather the stars them and the philosophers before them did not believe that there was certain Holly and so Plato Aristotle and so on came along to prove that there was a certain knowledge and that worked for two thousand years then when that fell apart than people begin to became skeptical about the possibility of certain knowledge and so the current was concerned that they were skeptical about whether there could be certain knowledge or not so he wanted to prove that there could be certain knowledge. So he says to magically doubted everything so he came along and he said. I don't know that tree out there maybe that's just my imagination that's creating that tree I don't know whether you exist or not. I mean maybe my mind is just. Made maybe think you exist but you don't really exist I don't know whether I exist. I don't know whether my mind exists Ah but you know wait a minute. I'm doubting I can't deny that I'm a doubting self therefore I exist in the reformulated that I think therefore I exist but riginal it was I doubt until I can doubt no more no more and the fact that I can doubt no more I now have a rock solid foundation for my faith by the way some time ago the whole of the index still enjoys her writings and read what she says about me out there and see what Scripture says about. I mean I just attended a lecture at one of our universities where she was a whole weekend devoted to Dell and you know the power of doubt and not with negative power with positive power you know that gives us a bit of basis to start thinking from. If we delve in fact we have to delve for going to faith. So Dell has has virtually taken over education you know most education uses doubt as kind of a starting point and it's the task of the teacher to student out of that into votes knowledge OK so anyway systematically the DIDN'T TELL YOU could develop more gave him the certainty of his self-awareness I doubt therefore I am. So critic carte analytic reason alone you know this alone. And the Bible or anything like that alone let's contrast it with reason that was guided by the Bible was the basis for understanding the natural world human reason wasn't thrown supreme authority. So if forty of scripture. Was replaced by the authorities of human reason by the way that's a rationalistic for law argument just to tag things for you to help you understand you starting with reason alone as opposed to an empirical argument that starts with science alone. So the universe was understood back in mystically rather than sustained by God whereas Luther's foundational certainty was in his faith in God's revelation the Bible the cars foundational search it was his faith in the procedural clarities of mathematical reasoning applied to thinking sell. Them go through all of that so then kind was now free notice those Remember the the Reformation opened up some freedoms for us now mankind was free not only from the dictates of the natural world no longer were we dominated by this external world of reality that we had with Plato and Aristotle. But also from tradition from the church the king. And specifically from Scripture and so now we would come of age we no longer need a god looking over her shoulder telling us how to live and what to do we can now determine that on our own so John Locke ideas are not innate The mind is a blank slate to be written upon by experience experience alone I'm just going through very quickly other philosophical systems so you see some of the Brother experience alone not intuition not reason that Scripture is the foundation for understanding. When you have a new opposed them all Gee what do you have. That's right move you've got a face so within this context. There isn't a rose the divine architect thought it was the divine architect who set the universe in motion but not the management of Calvary not active in history not the man of the Exodus nor will he become again coming again in the second coming. The universe has to be explained on mechanical and mathematical principles observation and analysis not scholastic I It is not divine revelation or God's action so for days I'm God was active in the design and creation of the universe God's revelation is universal in nature. For me of pause for just a moment for you to capture God's revelation is universal in nature but we started out about asking what you can know about God in the natural world because most of the ologies in one sense or another are built on a natural theology and they Isn't was totally built upon a natural theology God's revelation is universal major God was not active in historical events Good God did not reveal himself in the Bible to a particular people of a particular time man. So faith is based upon Perkel evidence and reason faith is not pleased with God through the Bible not on God self-revelation self so the rote results of the Enlightenment the nature and source of knowledge of the natural world is not to be determined by special revelation you don't use the Bible to understand the natural world it is to be discovered by some aspect of humanity primarily by empirical science. That was enteral to the process of the acquisition of knowledge everything was to be question until want to arrive than blue starting point is still central to education today so Faith of it had any meaning at all was founded upon and harm harmonious with the results of the scientific process faith was not based upon God's word but rather in human intellect and so theology no need to go back and make the theology was a little smaller theology if it existed at all of it had any meaning at all it was a small little box on top of science instead of theology the study of scripture but in term or in Acts was put through the Bible as the film version from recent So science was King this is a little bit long but it really captures kind of the essence of what was going on so if you don't mind and they go through that. If you want to stand get some air woman reading it you're welcome to do the. Greatest achievement of Newtonian science miserably the first full explanation of the universe on mechanical principles one set of axioms and laws of the universe of gravitation applied to matter everywhere on earth as it did in the Heavens Who after studying the contributions of thought could deny that pure science and the those are my a tell it's. Exemplified this creative accomplishment of the human spirit at its pinnacle notice the human spirit we are a lot about the human spirit we want to develop the human spirit the human spirit is to miss the human spirit is doing there not God It's working through us to do of various things. What an exalted do of science I mean we're talking religious terms now science has become our God what a transforming view Newton gave to all humans by the way this is kind of distorting Newton will be that we will have time for that in all different endeavors the optimistic view that humans could the dues the order of the natural world had a significant trickle down effect in other human endeavors so the scientific method became the model for all of study and study of history psychology sociology exciter So science had become THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE freedom was absolute humanity was no longer under the bonnet brig metaphysics elastic theology the church tradition or the authority of the Bible so all agree. All the classical Greek world view that emphasize the goal of human intellectual and spiritual activity as the essential unification or reunification of man with the cosmos remember our goal was to be restored to the eternal structure of reality. Of the cosmos in this divine intelligence and while the Christian goal was to reunite in the world with God. The modern goal was to create the greatest possible freedom from and find freedom from nature from the oppressor political systems social economic structures. From restrictive metaphysical or religious beliefs from the church from judeo christian god in the static and finite areas to tell in Christian cosmos from medieval scholasticism from the ancient Greek authorities from all primitive concepts of the world leaving behind tradition generally for the power of the Thomas the human intellect what is powerful I know we're going through a lot of stuff most important because what is powerful. Right and who was. OK. Up to the top of us human influence the power of. Thought of us human intellect modern man set out on his own to determine to discover the working principles of his new universe to explore and further expand this new dimensions and to realize his secular fulfillment Now if you go to the university get your Ph D. this is the thinking that's going to be behind and of course a more modern types of thinking as well is going to be behind the epistemologies that you will learn and so it's going to be important to decouple yourself. From those opposed to model G.'s and look at it from a biblical perspective instead of from these other perspectives so. We've come of age no need for God to tell us how or what to believe. Neither God nor His word is necessary to understand the universe God if He exists must conform to whatever we discover to be true in the natural world. Have any of you seen this this is the from this piece of encyclopedia not in sit Cyclopedia Cyclopedia the French encyclopedia the first major encyclopedia that was ever. Written. In Belgium did some seventeen hundreds. By the way my son took a couple hours to make that reasonable to an audience. But. Tell me tell me what you're saying that. Picture is worth a thousand words for a week and Thousand this case has the cover piece right. There on most of them. There's Lady you are the American in the center is Lady truth what's immolating from her light she's the source of life pardon Yes OK So light is coming from Lady truth. The sciences and the last of a on the right are I'm very willing her. To see are more clearly on the left the arts are adorning her. Glorifying her. On the left or the arts. On the right or the sciences. Or the theologians. No musically right theologians or. Even here what are they doing. Kind of the they do have some kind of an altar of incidents of some sort. Right maybe the sacraments or whatever. They are in darkness their light of sight to the light they're looking up looking for light. But there is no light coming from God and some sleigh are in direct line of sight with Lady truth they're in darkness. Right right. Now this is connected with the. Right face so here we see but no longer do we have scripture giving us a world view within which we can understand the world around us and in which we can understand God which we're going to understand his offer of salvation is for others humankind through the sciences and the arts that we will create our society that will be our savior so God in history will be our basis of understanding the world rather than God he based on recent world so the eighteenth and nineteenth century theology stepped into the office and logical shoes that were developed in the early Enlightenment. And. So I want to give you just two quick illustrations of theology that take place within this context and you know we were hundreds illustrations we could use or more but I want I want to help you see health philosophy these kinds of philosophies shapes the ologies so many all can't. Just describe it all go a little faster manual started he didn't start with this was scriptures he started with man's moral nature so spirituality is expressed through our moral nature so we're right in rejecting all of the old theological arguments for the existence of God We've gone through a few of them we're going to have new arguments for the existence of God. So what is it that's universal and human nature he says first of all we aren't born with a toggle or Rosoff that's a debate back and forth and lost we're already born with something in our head with the baby doesn't look through the slats one day and says so I deduce from this miss in this in this that I must be a moral person the baby when it's born already has within him or her that he here she must be a moral person and so was already part of his nature the other thing that we have by nature already part of us is that we want to be happy we have an insatiable desire for happiness and so. If we live throughout this life of moral life we can fulfil all the moral imperatives that we feel are upon us and so therefore there must be a life beyond in which we can fulfil the mill moral imperatives that we have upon us you see it out. Or we're born with these moral imperatives we can't fulfill them all within this lifetime therefore and. Certainly we wouldn't exist in such a way that we couldn't fulfill the imperatives of promise so therefore there must be a life beyond which we can fulfill these moral verities besides the living morally throughout eternity isn't going to bring happiness I mean you can but live morally and be miserable because of the circumstances you're in Therefore there must be a god in the universe that can bring about such a state of affairs that when we're living morally we can also live happily to see us in completely new to argument for the existence of God different from the old the old we're dealing with the world outside of us. Qantas dealing with the world inside of us her came along and said. Well you're right that we need to turn inside of us and sort of outside of us but what really represents our spiritual life is is our feelings not our morals our feelings and what is it that we all feel all of us feel as if we are absolutely dependent Well deepen. So what is it that we are dependent how do we explain this feeling of absolute dependence Well there must be a God upon whom we are absolutely different. And so you take you know starting with man's moral nature in men's rooms feeling nature will start with man's nature and you use that as a foundation for your theology so now you say you know the virgin birth what does that have to do with a feeling of absolute dependence use or without as not put them to do with feeling of absolute pins. You know of creation and sex literal days what does that have to do with your feeling of absolute difference nothing so you throw little visible second coming doesn't have anything to do with a feeling of absolute and that's so the basis upon which they build their theology becomes the screen through which they accept and reject anything else that's in I should say religion I was going to say scripture Amine they use scripture but basically the study of religion and humankind becomes the foundation for their theology and scripture is only applicable where it happens to agree with what they've already discovered to be true in the natural world so I want to go through this. So. They for current. The universe out there impose meaning upon my mind cuts. We really can't know what's outside of our mind the only thing I can know is what I see myself I can't know what's outside of me. And so. They're for. The mind is not something that focuses. The mind can also distort a lens can focus but it can also distort right from the see these pictures of buildings that is going on mom of the limbs as distorted picture OK So so I cannot know things within themselves as I could before because whatever was there was exactly reproduced on my mind now I can only know things as they appear to me. And so truth is relative to mousse of the mind is the lens the camera which determines what is seen as reality. So whereas before reality impose meaning upon the mind of Man Now the mind of man imposes meaning on reality and so world philosophy turned to the world of interiority the world inside of us instead of the world outside so basically. If you want to build any kind of theology at all. You have to start with all of the human disciplines and they provide the foundation upon which are the Elegy can rightfully stand so a new pair of was a switch from an object by the way this is called switch from the object to the subject and leave you in philosophy. So it's a new paradigm has a switch from the object world outside of humanity to subject the world inside of mankind so for the contemporary period if you want to know God you must do. You like a man welcome to bear Syria flexion of yourself label god. So some of the characteristics of the altered to this point except for the reformation very natural continuity between the natural world and the world of religion so so there's a natural continuity from the natural world so I can start with the natural world I can build my theology there and it will have it's one of the because of its foundation in the natural world very capable of determining the nature of reality is the basis for our theology apart from scripture. Criteria other than Scripture formed the foundation for theology in our understanding of the natural world and so the three systems are one is we start with our concept of reality we impose that on the Bible or we argue directly to who God is like the Reformation God reveals Himself to us therefore we can understand reality and we can understand God with third God as a reflection of ourselves. You know us. Since. This media was brought to you by audio first a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse if you would like to listen to more servant leader Visit W W W audio verse or.

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