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Where Should we Put the Garden?

Edwin Dysinger


Edwin Dysinger

Work on development for Bountiful Blessings Farm




  • November 30, 2017
    9:30 AM
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So in and of course I'm going to be kind of going back and forth between. Practical things in the garden and spiritual. Locations. And both of them in the. So. With the 1st on. The go with. God. God God was the 1st. Planted a garden just radiated. Well but there are there was there was something even before the curse. In Genesis to get talks about them killing there it says there was no man yet to kill the ground. Speaking of creation before the man was making and there was no man to tell the ground and then God It says that God put out a man in the Garden of Eden to tell it and keep it so that killing and keeping there was there were some wall for that human before sin and. I'm going to get into that and some of the later lessons going on. Now when I when I 1st started farming my mind you know that I appreciated the 1st job gains of Genesis but when I started farming my mind with when I was like a magnet it just kept going back to the 1st. What does that mean and. They just suddenly inserted have been more relevance to me than they'd ever have been or. I just spent a lot of time pondering. What what was in these chapters and what does that mean for me so. 1 thing I was 1 of mention that. You know we mentioned in there that the concept of Mitch you know God what everything that God created have a particular place. You know where we're at functions best so you know you mentioned your grown can solve. Your don't grow suffered in there do you. Now why is that. OK So that's that's not the niche for kasama right so you don't need it every every plant has it has a niche every creature has a niche work reforms that will move that you know and. That niche is it's not just a place it's its that niche I was a lot to do will all become actions the relationships of the world it doesn't make sense. I mean every everything that's growing in the ground is has has a relationship with the soil with the microbes in the soil it has a relationship with it with the weather patterns you know that that particular place house. With that with the seasons and so there are all that and again with the other plants and the other creatures that are surrounding it you know some creatures assist them in pollinating that are good trees eat the plant you know but they're all in relationships and so. That's Mitch is. The concept of marriage in compass is this the idea of all these relationships there are taking place. You also got God created the whole the whole creation. Is is a creation of these relationships murders their systems and us and networks in the whole creation and. Well as I started farming I started seeing that before that when I when I thought about God's creation I was just amazed at how detailed and intricately he created different things different creatures how he created me that in all but. When I started farming what you can mourn them and intricacies of those individual things is is the intricacies of the relationships how everything is cool. And God created it to help way you know that was his purpose that everything we can do and. It's really in it it has they all work you know when they're when they are connected in the right way the working together for life not huge 1 is giving and taking something. For the rest and and they're all working together a lot. So God has has has given us. As human beings. I believe that God had a niche for man when he created man in the gaps with the mutual. Harm. In the garden. Yeah better but he he he placed him in the physical place that he put him and the relationships that he said he was the guardian and he's part of that relationship you know God himself is part of those relationships. Because he's the sustainer of life and you know so. You have got the Church for ma'am and niches were something performs best and the there are something. I believe that there really response. Comes out boss in that setting and I'm not saying that everyone has to be a farmer going to do you think there's real value in the every 1 of us having a good. Sense. So. I mention that the the seeing world which is a development I just want to read something from Christ loved ones. That we might become acquainted with his or her. Vote among. The vanity was revealed in humanity the invisible glory in the visible human 1 man could learn of the unknown the known heavenly things were revealed to the earth. Was made manifest in the once of more. So it wasn't Christie was illustrated by the Divine Light Ripley things with which the people were most familiar natural thing with a millionth of the spiritual. The things of nature. And life experiences of this years were connected with the truth of the written word. Leading us from the natural to the spiritual kingdom Judge Pirro of all of the links in the chain of truth the good ones 1 with God and that would have him. In their original faction all created things with a room and suppression of the flock of God. To Adam and Eve in their need home nationalist full of the knowledge of God wisdom spoke to the eye on vision received into the heart of the commune with God and his creative works. When the more it was came his brother the special to be the special representatives of himself who gave him home so many mills and dogs in the home life and their religious service they were brought into constant contact with nature in the Word of God So Christ taught his disciples tried to lay on the mountainside in the fields and woods where they could look on ease of making light of which he illustrated his teachings. So through the creation we are to become acquainted with the Creator so through the creation they become good work on. God oh we need we need scripture that is often what it wants because there are a lot of major religions out there that. Don't animism and new age spirituality in and all their own with the nature that without the Word of God in the. Course. Both of them together it's like. Really how you have got. If you have a point of truth which is major. You can look at it this way we look at it this way and they were all other ways but if you have another kind of the Word of God There is only 1 way that you can hear both of. You see that So if you have. If we have both of them we can live if we can line them up then we know then we can be certain that we have treatments lined up with. The Lone Tree Yeah. OK so. What about wind. There are a lot of things. That we want to think about if you're choosing a government site and some of you already have garden sites I don't know if anyone here not have a garden site you know that instantly OK so I'm just going to go over a number of own things to think about in choosing a garden site and. I just want to be clear from the beginning. I don't think anyone anywhere has all of these criteria lined up perfectly because that you know that kind of place to me did you do your best with what you went with the work you know that there it is good to be able to think up and sometimes of course 1 thing is soil we're going to talk on the center new I think about about soil warm you know it's obvious we want to have good soil. But. I have I heard stories of people who who develop beautiful gardens in rock or it's you know. You can do it. Yeah it was it was a place of course oil. And so you know it's going to take more after that's clear but it has them. The next is is water. And I think that's pretty obvious to me that you know if you can get water nearby your garden spot that's. Damage. Particularly for a home garden spot it to depend on rain. Rust. Yeah unless you happen to live in a place that had. A 3rd a 3rd day sunlight. And Rutledge and his place well a lot of trees around the particularly wintertime. Sunlight can be an issue and I I think that's where most people that is the time of year that. Could be. You know in the summertime you're out there and. You don't think about. It come back in the winter time that place might be cheap. Because the showers and while. That's something to think about particularly if you want to winter garden and I want to say that in Tennessee we have a. I wish I was looking up the. We call. The climate was on Mount for. For Australia and trying to compare you know with us and. There I found the climate zone here in Australia that compares us you know we're in Tennessee which is for the United States it's a fairly moderate climate you know we get cold that it's not that cold. When I say we get cold which we will on occasion you know every every few years actually get down to. Single digits Fahrenheit which is in a way below and agree. But it's but it's usually for a made of cheese and that's it home most of the time for most of the winter when when we are freezing at night we're we're above freezing on the day. On occasion will stay below freezing all day long. That counts and that will normally happen where we want to but it's not it's not extended periods. Here of ISIS that it is. That is when I look at the climate is a map that is just a couple small areas you know on the tops of the mountains where we're you are equivalent. So I thought wow you know most of this country is is the equivalent of of you know on the Mexican Gulf and young California and Florida you know beyond warmer so. But what I what I want to say is that we're growing. Right through the winter. Without heated. Structures. So it you know if we can do that then anyone in Australia and you can have fresh food right through the winter. Quite easily and that's where our the technology we're using is very simple and it's low tech Well const. Anyone can do it. For a. Farm. Yeah. Yes that's right. That's right. So. Another another thing to consider when you're choosing a garden site is orientation that is which which direction is the land bases. So if. You know that which direction the land is sloped in is going to have an effect on the light that it gets and the heat that it holds so if you if you have a south facing slope. Here it's going to be cold colder much colder than a military base and so you know for us it's the other way around and there are places. And I'm in America where I grew up in Southern California that. If you had a ridge that was running east and west the north side would be full of large trees and very green which growth the south side with the brush in home you know it was just a clear line right down the ridge so you know that the orientation can move in make a difference. And and that orientation. Both sides can be an advantage. Particularly the closer you. You are towards the equator the well the the less of a difference you're going to see actually because the sun's rays overhead but maybe the more you know the harder you are maybe the more advantage you would have on the south facing slope the north recedes but when you know when you're when you're colder you're going to have more advantage on the southeast I mean the northeast and still. Keep that story. So. But you know for us while we for our winter garden it's really nice to have a south facing slow. The be all timers in our area actually plant their fruit trees on the north facing slope. And the reason for that is that. That crueler whynot De Lay's buddy. You know we like John said We often you know Harbor. You know late frosts in the spring and sort of but it is delayed that can be an advantage. To be less likely to be bitten by drugs so there's a lot of things to think about and want and. Micro-climates you know you can you might be in a place that has a certain climate in general that. There can be small microclimates and you can even create micro-climates that are dead or warmer or cooler on that Silicon. So generally in the For you it would be the. The the north facing slope with the warmest. Of the West sleeping facing slope would be next warmest. Face in the next and the. South facing would be the coldest that's as the Widgeon works so the funny thing is that. The rules or the. Other rigs that the next thing is accessibility it's really important to be able to access your garden easily. And not just you walk into that a wheelbarrow even ideally a pickup truck or you know something so that you can easily unload a memo and sort of or pick up produce and things like accounts of accessibility is a is something to keep in mind. Another thing that people don't always think about but it really is significant emeritus proximity to your house. The closer you can have it to your house the day I just can't emphasize that. Oh we have the same out of sight out of mind really is true. And so so the ideal is to is to the you know that in gardening. And farming there are some things that you need to access regularly you want that closest team so that's your kitchen garden your herbs you know the things that you want regular access to and then you have concentric rings out from there you know your potato field or your squash field could be a little further out because that's kind of a 1 off thing you're not helping as much and and your fruit trees also in they could be a little further if you're you're not there's much but. You can think of it in concentric rings of of use as the ones that you are accessing more often keep them closer ones that you access them withdraw. But the closer you can keep all of them to your Nasim of the to me the ideal form would be would be an acreage when with the house in the center and then you have your view of the you know that that never happens a little. It's nice. OK I've already mentioned something about microclimates or another thing that I should mention is Arab Spring. Where we live. Are how we are and do and delayed inland also and our house is about. 100. Feet it's about 150 feet above where we have our fields and. Our fields are actually in what we call a cross pocket. And they can in the wintertime especially on a clear night on our fields can be 10 degrees colder than room hansoms if that is a very significant difference even if you walk up to the house in the winter time. It's cold and you pass of a place where all of the sudden you're warm you know it's it's it's quite a difference so. You know air drains like water does and it can be stopped by. Trees it can be dammed up by trees. Or land formations things like that. You know it's the little valleys that tend to catch the cold there. You know there are another thing to just to consider when you're choosing growing spots is what you're going to grow a kind of mentioned Wrexham Anita the house but there might be other things like you know I mentioned we would like to grow trees on workflows it would be self slopes because they can. Lower that. Think about whether you're going to grow in the place that you're developing. And the size of what you're going to be growing. And how much you want to grow so these are all considerations. So. And as I said Just keep in mind that nobody is probably ever going to get all of us here you're 1. Of. Those who have a. Lot on our on our farm our fields are. My fields are about half a mile from my home so I am speaking from my experience of close. And they're there down lower than the house so you know when we're when we're watching the weather we have to take into consideration this temperature difference that temperature difference isn't always there when it's when it's overcast we tend to be the same temperature both places if only. We. Saw our. Work where my brother John might my fields face south but his fields face north and his growing. Anything. You can't use everything and where both grown and a frost pocket and we're trying to grow through the winter in that we're doing. Things. That weren't really live on the same farm but I have. I have we're in a valley. The main farm is is on 1 half of the 1 side of the valley it's on them or through the side of the valley and my land is on the south side of the development of the eastern ones. So. We have what we have a lot of water on the north side I don't have any water in my side. So what we get across. The farm was bought by my dad and he bought about 200 acres and he sold some roughly. So we have about I mean 16070 acres something like down but then in addition I bought 50 acres across right across it came up recently when I see some of them. And that's more recent. You know it's Rural Council you know most of the farmers around us raise raise cattle and in Haiti for us it's not a it's not a big fan of the culture. Of yeah you know a broken California which is you know that big agriculture. In the Willamette Valley in Oregon we lived there for a few years that's I mean that's bigger everything than this. So I'm. 1 of them. Here just a few more minutes there I'm going to talk about. Something. 1st. If you're just. Looking. For a park in the heart of our beds versus roads. You know a lot of them in traditional farming and gardeners then grow and you have a row. Of plants. And then you have another. On. What what we are promoting is. Growing and. Growing wine. While. We're growing Groves hold on. On that because of the cultivation. On either either with horses or with tractors even you. Know he saves call. Between the Lines. So you can you can do a larger it Ridge more easily. Grow this way but you know we're talking about home gardening and and in fact this is what we do on our farm I mean we we have that joint of a prisoner swap that we we're not formally 1 of them over 60 years. Roasts it's hills and woodland. Fields the room when. We're. Really even on a farm where reason. That. The idea of a bed is an. There you have. A Member people who have been doing us for some time are we have we have a number of farmers that we look to for for years and in the place that 1 is only a comb he's he he grows on the coast of Maine and she knows his partner move north east of us he grows here around on using the same trick margins we He's he's the 1 that pioneered this not that are going through the winter with low tech and. Low cost simple systems. And then there's another guy. John Martino in Canada. Who's it who's a younger guy and he took what Elliot Coleman did and he's gone through the and so he's he's in on in Montreal but we are in Quebec right right about who won and he's not going through that wedge at least he's he's starting early in the spring because he's colder than home but he's starting early in the spring going through late to the fall. On any waves the idea growing is that you can you can get more more plants. And per square foot than you could in Heroes exactly excellence. So you can how hook. Plants like this. And. You can have a lot more plants per square foot and another another reason for growing to them is that these plants the space of plants so that by the time they're about 2 thirds grown they are completely covering the leaves are completely covering the bed so using this this method we usually we cultivate once or twice and then we don't want to do that. Because the plants are shady and it leaves. Well. Is. Is that. That's what you know you you know you could there are people who removes 3 foot. People use of 3 that some people use it for but. I mean you can make your bed as why does he want but there are a lot of advantages to it to a 30 inch bed. When it is 1 of those that don't. You can you can struggle easily. And that's that's really nice or for harvesting or transplanted into this you know work like that or you can you can be you know on 1 side of it in the can reach across the other so you can you can step across it you don't have to go all the room in a way that the bed is a no step them. In the depths of the ground you're working you don't want to be walking on it stepping on but it you know we we've done some work with 4 foot beds in all I can I can tell you you need that step in and it's just impractical for months step and zone. But this 1. You know the only time step in this is when you lose your balance or something. So. What we eat what we do is it is. It how. We have a 12 inch or. Inch. Aisle. We use a 12 inch aisle inciter who palaces because that's prime real estate with we paid for us a lot of money to get that it's a simple who cost of a single plastic and and so we want to put as much in there as we can. Tell you of 1 foot I am is it's not easy to get used to I mean you can eventually get used to it. And work in. You know if you're standing facing that there are NO I DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'RE. Your toes are on 1 better move heels wrong the other but the the real issue comes when we won't want. Where does this go. You end up you end up sitting on the plants in the other bed so when we're when we're outside we kept us for who calls and still but when we're outside and we don't need an inch. It's just. Reasonable to work another another really good reason for doing the 30 inch bed which on you know from what I understand maybe is not quite so relevant yet here but there there are more and more truly needs being developed for a 13 inch bed in our own home we have got a number of things like the other bill to us a new house in that I think that you're going to be getting some of those things here and they'll be on right there that is actually important function tools and so there are going to be some things that are going to art. School civic for 30 that are ideal that it's. Often. Bright red Not me I'm not I think you have tools like that and if you have had 2 or 3 of these are things that are affordable to. Sell but it's true there I mean they are doing things like that. OK You know 1 other 1 other thing I want to just touch on is is the idea of standardized nation. We found that it is is really helpful to standardize your your garden plots so. For example that you can you know not only make all of your debts 30 inches wide but also a. Standard line. That you're going to help him. It's it's helpful for a lot of things Number 1 it's helpful for calculations because once you you can you can calculate how many square feet are in a bed. And then you know a lot of here amendments and things that are or are pesticides things that you're putting on your garden or you know so much per X. number of square feet or X. number of acres and you can do those calculations for 1 barrier or block of beds and then you've got it you know you don't have to do calculations every time you can apply something so. Standardization is very 1 standardized stand we have come up with. For of a larger scale. 30 inch bed 100 feet long. And 10 of those beds in the block belts that's 110th of a nuclear. Submarine. That makes calculations easier. You know you can you don't have to. Although I would really highly recommend a burden to bear on the life of whatever 1 we've had 341 beds. With. What necessarily recommend that. You know you can you can do it. Whatever like that it is really helpful the other the other thing that it's helpful about have been standardized grants is. For you know like if you're using drugs for irrigation or any kind of your system you can you can set what you need for your life for us for the 100 foot bed and then you can use that same thing on all your other beds so you don't have to handle. An individual sudden up for every every place you've got 1 thing that can be moved anywhere and the same with loading broke over as well 1 of the things we used to protect plants with her time and again the standard songs that you working. There are we use psychology trucks and all. Of this talking to Rob about something we call landscape fabric and he said you've got it differently for it. It's it's a. Textile block woven together gel talks on the edges. But the black woven work often with with lines every flute something like that. Oh yeah that's right you know that's that stuff. That's a stand on it's not will but this is that I'm sure you've seen it because Rod That's right. Well this is this 1 they lose billions I'm talking about the 1 I'm quite cover landscape it's a weave barrier young it's a black woman. It is. OK let's go young you. Know you are going around and around week OK So we'd match so we read mash and. Silent charts. And I'll be talking about the applications for those things later that you know having having all of these things in standard lengths is just really helpful so you don't have to have you know all. You know storing them it's really hard when. You know you have you have some because a 100 foot long others that are 50 feet long you know. You know when you when you roll them up you can't always tell the difference you know and the only way you can know which is which is the role that you want to do that. So. You will have been having standard size things is really helpful for a lot of things. This media was brought to you by audio 1st a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse if you would like to listen to more service lead to visit W W W audio verse or.


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