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Home Gardening - Part 5

Lynn Hoag

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The way food is grown today, with chemical fertilizers, pesticides and GMOs, con- tributes to the disease and debilitation we see around us. Using Ellen White’s planting method, combined with full mineralization using ocean water, Lynn enjoys teaching others the simple, easy and inexpensive methods he has discovered. 

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  • January 16, 2019
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OK We're going to get started we're going to be talking about starting a school garden school project. This is really fun when you get these little kids out there they just get so excited they put a seed in the ground when it sprouts they just. On. Those he has always just great. They make mistakes. Was in Fallon Nevada and we had. One of the teachers had gone out there and double dog a little garden area for these kids this was kindergarten through the 2nd grade it was all we had just tiny little kids out there and. And I remember one little kid was you know what I would do is I would play it and show them in one bed what to do and then it was their turn to do their bad you want each kid to have his or her own little plot of ground if they only had their interest goes way out and they're learning goes way up if they own it OK so this one little kid he was so excited we just planted some broccoli and other stuff and he jumped around and was so excited he jumped all over his broccoli. So mistakes all the main That's OK we learn more from our mistakes usually than we do from our successes so it's all right there they are going to make mistakes and they're going to learn their this is Pine Hills Academy Auburn California at Venice school there. And they made wonderful boxes like this and then we came in and planted things. And when it came back. A week or so later the kids came back to class and they were saying that's my plane I put my plane is that one on a plane this one over here and there. I got kind of started and then turned some of that over the teachers in the planes were playing it too close. And mistakes were made and so had to go back in and then I'm out there it's better if better to have enough spacing than to plant things too close together there. And so we've got 2 different types of cabbage here we've got broccoli and we've got cauliflower and then down here with that is some potatoes coming yes they're now. This is an area where there's lots of gophers and so. We've got to go for where I believe in the bottom of the somebody put started this project several years ago and. We have we have a small test print. But when we went back into the soil test you see how out of balance. Those those boxes were. I don't know what he put there but if you put water base latex paint it'll be just fine and if you use interior latex paint that would be even better on the outside but use it here it will not be toxic there so yeah you need to be careful what you put there somebody's got all excited in one of your gardens and said Oh hey I hear the highway department is tearing up these old. You know these posts they have along side of the road that hold the. The guard rails and whatever and so anyway they were pulling all those up and they were free and this guy said Man we should get those we should build beds out and watch it all go talk to him see what we got see what we have going there and so the guy went over in our garden went over and talked to the highway department they said oh yeah we've got you know we've got lots of those we'll even be loverly to you that's even better yet they said what he isn't for well we're going to make guards he said no you can't have me. That stuff was so toxic that they were taking it out of the highways and and it would it would have killed your plan so don't use old railroad ties or things like that it's toxic there. Be careful what you're what you're putting out there doctor ventilator use just. To make to make those beds and and raised beds. And some of those beds 1516 years later we're still finding use the. Interior latex paint for and it works just fine here's another picture. And you see a lot of these boxes are just empty so. Looks like we've got a 2nd graders I think there and here we we had each kid marquees own row plant their own seeds. And over here we just have some onions that we're planting in here those are onions we just shake a mound and we had some scenes in there. OK now this is another school garden not very far from the previous one this garden is in Eldorado had been a school. And. You see there's quite a bit of shade there that's in the afternoon but there's quite a bit of shade there and what we had with these raised beds and has said will make hooks there this garden is probably in about $2000.00 foot elevation in the mountains and so they get some snow and some pretty hard frosts there and if we put the same plants that you saw earlier if we put them out there they would do nothing they would just sit there OK then they'd survive but they wouldn't they wouldn't grow there wouldn't give us cabbage and broccoli and cauliflower that we wanted but when you put that simple hoop over sunshines in hits that up in those plants will do just very very well I learned that when I took that class from document later and we mark. Classes over in school dismissed her for Christmas vacation and they had a whole bunch of plants leftover that they were throwing out and I said Hey can I have some of those Sure take them so I took a bunch of them this was this was cauliflower and broccoli and cabbage plants I took them home to Camino California at that time which is about $3000.00 foot elevation in the mountains so it's even colder there put them in during Christmas break and had one of the very best gardens and I ever had in my life there you know I put one room here with with a cover I didn't make it that high or just made it about this high there and just a cheap plastic that you get a hardware store. And it covered those and then I had another row. Same identical plants playing the same time same fertilizer same saw same everything but it didn't cover these plants over here undercover did nothing I got no useful food out of these over here I had some of the best. Produce than they ever had so a few degrees difference can make a huge can make a huge difference if you can't grow tomatoes and cucumbers and they're not in this weather they're you'd have to have a heated greenhouse or a water canopy to do that but these cool weather crops will grow very very very well we planted. Beeps and charred and. Radishes onions onions you can plant you know I mean the right time of year to plant is November even outside even here plenum outside and they'll just sit there in the ground they won't grow vigorously they'll just be sitting there in the ground all winter but the roots are growing and then. Towards the towards the middle in late February they start to grow and they can grow outside just fine. But the rest of them won't do so good there and they have to have some protection if you grow kale and have it stored in before the cold weather for most of us you're going to have that outside all here around and then heat off of that the next hill gets very very sweet just very nice. When it when we have that cold weather fighting the same thing with collard greens and. Rutabaga Anyway other cool weather crops in there OK And Wolf we have many more pictures with this sort of not what see. OK I hear the kids on the plant there. And kids got a little bunch of broccoli marketing plans they're playing by the blueprint OK. I won't tell you about a project. What size a white pipe with those hoops. First don't make them that high. Side if you have if you have. That. Shape or comes up and high. The wind is going to catch it and blow all over this is in a protected area where they've got a. Fence all around it there but don't make them that high and make it more like a quantum. Style and you have better success with it use a slower pipe to make to bend the hoop over and then you use a bigger pipe in the bend itself OK so that you put that pipe right into the bigger pipe there that way it's easier to take up and put down much easier to use there yes but I want to tell you about. A project of. Theirs and going to church this is in northern California close to the Bay Area and maybe you know of some similar situation like this but this is this administration has 20 acres of land. 10 where the church is and. And a building or 2. And then 10 which is separate and so the county said well but separate land doesn't qualify and we're going to have to charge you taxes on it they want $6000.00 a year for taxes on that well the church is a small struggling church and really worried about that $6000.00 there. In the meantime I had been looking for a place for a young couple. Who have a smoothie business smoothie ministry let's call it and what they do is they take in they make smoothies they take organic produce which they buy. From a local farmer and then they make these smoothies and they take them to all of the farmers' markets in the Bay Area that are open any day except some of their. They have regular customers. They do a good business with this it's it's it's a ministry that pays its own way OK We talk about self-supporting ministries which often means dependent upon donations this is not dependent on donations there so any were looking for a place where these people could grow their. Gun on I went to their Thanksgiving meal wasn't there really have to go to that church that they were not knowing they had a special program on but anyway they had a Thanksgiving meal and it was it was a nice. Situation and I talked to the pastor and just said hey. You know I'm interested him in. Doing something here that would be a benefit to your church and would get another ministry going on and we'd like to get started with you know that and I said I'm talking about it later he said all that's fine you know he got really interested there are so many where I called him. He invited me to come over to a church board meeting and to present the ideas I said are I could do that he said you got to do it quickly he says I'm going to give you 15 minutes and I thought how on earth can I cover this in 15 minutes I can't there so anyway I wrote things out and I came to the committee and said I'm going to read this and it's going to cool it's going to cause a lot of questions in your mind because I'm going to talk about some pretty fantastic things here because a lot of questions in your mind hold your questions they'll be answered either in the presentation or afterwards so I read that presentation and think it took me 1011 minutes there. And. Then. Assured him that the 1st thing we would do was to take that $6000.00. Tax that they have and switch that to a nontaxable thing in other words this other ministry would take care of it there what we were looking for is a place where we could go and they say these are young people they're professional young people but they don't have a lot of money. He comes from Bangladesh his wife comes from Cambodia. Dedicated. Young people smart. But they don't have a lot of money behind him so I said what we want is to start very small with one acre. We'll take one acre and we'll grow produce on that which will support this ministry that they have got to grow. Organic food we're going to use this garden in the boxes as. So because these people who barrier they understand organic and they want organic So we're going to have to do that. Well that kind of blew the pastor away so I thought you're going to sort flown on a whole acre and. So anyway. Other people in the on the board they're good people there but other people on the board said Well. That doesn't sound real. And I had purposely tried to play at least some of the things that I was saying there. Because what we do talk about is pretty fantastic there and the promises that we have. In the spirit of prophecy and in the Bible they tell us that if we do these things that God will bless that will the Creator Himself will teach us. In one place and in the Spirit of Prophecy it talks about the children of Israel and that their job in the crossroads of the world was to learn how to grow food without disease. And then they were to teach it to the rest of the world well then she brings it to us today and she says today we should learn to grow food with no disease and that when we do it the world will flock to us to learn those methods we will have to go out to them they'll flock to us to learn those weapons everywhere we go out there there's a tremendous amount of disease I'm talking about in the field OK a tremendous amount of disease out there fungal diseases and viral diseases all kinds of problems up there and then of course flu when the plant is putting out that signal now the insects come and so then we have all of us to size so forth so anyway if it's our job to learn how to grow food without disease must be possible right there wouldn't be our sign there so. That's what we're doing and better for. BOB GREGORY has a really interesting class today where he has totally switched what he used to do. And uses no chemicals and no pesticides. And it's doing it doing a great job there now when we use when we use the chemical fertilizers we can blow up for us OK that's what they call an industry we can pour on the neck region and the potassium and we're going to get big tomatoes and we're going to get big apples and big whatever you know there but there are unbalanced they're not what we want that's not our that's not our goal is to grow the biggest We want good produce We need good produce. But the goal is to grow the food which is healing and without disease and when we hit it and that. Immunity is. Passed on to us you see those 92 different minerals that are in the ocean water and that perfect balance the plants need those things for their immune system OK so the plants immune system now is much stronger there they need that and you and I need it but we need it 2nd hand we need it through them through the plant there so that's transferred to us when we eat food that way so anyway if you know of another situation like this we need we need. Gardens like this all over this particular ministry. It's called The 1st Christmas tree. And they will offer to go to the to your church if you invite him or your school if you invite him there and they'll teach you how to do this ministry how to do the juicing up and let me change that they don't do juices they do they do the smoothies that's a different they're. So of you know Jared Thurman there you know good good guy he started just ministry and it landed Georgia and. Expanded that and then eventually sold it into that you're talking friends bought it including all equipment so forth and it's just sitting there is not being used part of the reason is that with the juices they had so many different things it was too complicated and there the the a smoothie is very very simple you have maybe several different flavors there but it's very very simple and and you're using the whole plant you're not just using the juice it's good to use the juice if you are. If you're sick maybe in healing situation or something because it's concentrated there but we need the whole plant for health and so ideally we want to use the whole plant there are these people come and they will teach you your school how to run this they'll get you started there and. Anyway that's available then. We need it when we want to expand from there from the the slow the ministry to now providing. Top quality produce for the same customers they were already seeing those customers regularly they're already making a profit with that business so now we want to expand to growing top quality produce and there are certainly many of those people who would like to have a garden box Weekly of the produce there. Then we want to expand a little further and. For all we need to make a. Commercial kitchen there to handle the stuff we have to have a commercial kitchen. But then a mini life's lifestyle center we can call it that many women are OK when. When. John Harvey Kellog. Had his big sanitarium there Alan White said that's the wrong thing to do we need to have many. Sanitariums wellness centers but small ones and spread all out where people could. Get to them. So we're not talking about John Harvey Kellog big thing like that we're talking about a small wellness center there for people can get well can actually get well OK so then then. When the commercial kitchen expanded garden and they grow produce an awful lot of food there and. And because there's 20 acres at this particular place I mean we could fill up that 10 acres and have an tremendous amount of food there and if we needed even more. The church has another 10 acres you see that it's not being used most of us not being here so that would that could work then we. Then they wanted to to have a training institute OK we're training medical missionaries and Cole Porter type work there. So anyway I think we can put all of these things together and just grow gradually in this is what I was telling the church board that we need to grow gradually we need we need to be able to rent some of that property now with an option to purchase it OK not just rent it because then. Somebody could come in later that didn't understand the principals and say well we don't want to do that anymore and cancel it so we need an option to purchase that we need control of that and and these young people they. Will they want to start a family but they want to stay but they're living in Berkeley California now that's not the place to start a family they want to move out they want to get in the country there this would be an ideal situation for them so this is the type of institution or. Slow thing that could grow and could could do well there. Then in central California. Right now no the conference owns a very nice school this is on 8 acres. I think it's about 889 acres Costard would like school building because they had they're prepared for about 200 students or something and they have 19 kids in school. So 19 kids on earth you pay for the school say so they are struggling with debt and whatever they're paid that school could be totally filled up with young people from that area you know why. Or how 1st of all let's go back to administer education. It's the best educational system on earth why is it the best educational system on earth why is it superior to every other educational system or no I don't like tells us that our our educational system in our educational system they ain't B. and C. what's taught there should be agriculture OK Why here is what happens if you go to a public institution I don't care of the university or whatever. People are taught what to think if you go to this educational system you're taught how to think OK there's a huge difference all right so they learn. And learn all of these things and learn cause and effect OK Everything happens for a cause because of a cause and we have a cause we have an effect nothing happens just because it happens here not just. Here by accident but that's what's taught in the universities. There so kids learn how to plant and harvest and they learn how to handle problems they learn how to handle emergencies there. They learn to be careful with these little plants they're close to. God's creation and they're in the Creator him self it's a healthy place they're using they have outside fresh air and sunshine all kinds of benefits there that you don't get there the list goes on and on they learn self-reliance they learn to be confident that I live low enough to see that the products of this educational system that those people have gone out and that they are the people who have made the world a better place they're the doers in this world they have made this world a better place to live. If you walk onto the campus of high school and then walk onto the campus of some administer school. You'll see a huge difference in the quality of those kids and in their educational system there so anyway there are all kinds of benefits here and we need to to do this let's go back to. Hollister where they have this school that can handle $200.00 kids and it's empty and they have a huge development Besides there the conference rooms that there. Are are you people how many are acquainted with. What's there call for work here you use Rush you have youth Russia OK OK you've Russia is a great program. There to do things in the administration that about 70 years ago just went down the tubes what is agriculture OK The other is the call for work call for work was changed because of changes in the laws here and in Canada and so it became necessary for the Cole Porter to be an independent agent so now he had no retirement no medical insurance or whatever previous to that when a court order was a an employee of the denomination and retirement and he had medical insurance and so forth that all had to go away in countries where they still or people are still. Employees of the church the cold war crimes but in this country and in Canada it just disappeared so now we have the youthful rush program which is a great program wonderful program and these young people go out in teams and they will work a whole town and. The entering wedge. Is is the health message OK we have a world of people out here who are too busy to absorb in life and making money and enjoying life to pay any attention at all to God they don't want to talk to you about God OK but they're almost all interested in how they're only interested in feeling bother. And all of us have to eat so. This is this is a proposal we've just done a little bit of this but this is the proposal that we're growing a very healthy food let's go back to these tomatoes Let's say that in the room use fresh group then they go up to the door and. And they give out a little free sample and we could we could take the Sun Gold tomatoes and another 2 made a looks exactly like it and say This one came from Safeway this morning this one came from my farm or maybe. From wherever it came from. And I know it's a gift to you I want you to taste the difference now they look at they look identical they look the same but there's a huge difference in taste right so that's a little entering wedge and now they can talk about how this affects. The health of their customers they're talking to their and the nutrient value and now if we have a local. Market gardener farmer who is growing this way. Now the the youth rush people can sign those people up for a box delivered every every week or every 2 weeks or whatever it's it's different than what it used to be years ago but this works very nicely there let's go back to the school and the kids. Now if we've got this kind of a program going on in the school meaning that the kids are learning agriculture and they're learning these principles now are you rush young people can say look there are any kids in this household or if you have any grandkids or whatever that you're interested in having a superior education the best in the whole world here's what's happening over here they had going to school and why I had superior you see there are lots of people out there who are good honest people who want a better education for their kids they know that they're not getting the best in public school there so yes it's going to cost the money on but we could have our schools absolutely filled. With young people from the local areas in some places and some countries like India as much as 80 percent of the students are and are not from had been a songs there from the community there was in Jamaica and there are schools are struggling like they are almost anywhere but our schools in Jamaica this is north northeast to make a conference. They allow anybody in the community to come to their school. And they don't have to pay. They haven't suggested to wishing but almost nobody pays there that's a real strain on our side on our students there but anyway again we have a school with more than 80 percent from the community and they're all right so we can have a real outreach with these we could fill or schools especially in the United States and Canada we could do well with a school wouldn't necessarily be cheaper but if we had it full of students there mostly paying students. Our schools could operate again and again I go to our schools and and. They tell me something very similar Well I need we need a little few more students here to balance this out we have to have enough students to be able to pay the teachers and to make this program work that market gardening in a school. Is not profitable. One of the reasons that agriculture got out of the school system the admin to school system is that. Administrator has looked at it as a way to earn money and if you do that does work you can't you can't make money off of student labor OK you're training them and as soon as you're going to train they're off to college or someplace else there so don't look at the Agriculture program as a way of earning money. The Bible department the math department the English department none of those have to make a profit OK So don't look at the Agriculture Department as having to make a profit besides that in the Bible Department you've got a few books on same with the other things in agriculture you've actually got a big investment. There so there are some problems here on the there are some programs that are working and are working successfully but if you look at the Agriculture program in the school as a profit maker it's not going to work there they star can we discard can he's doing a great job you know Tommy Meyer if you don't know him get to know him he's quite the guy and they're. Doing a good job there. Had been a school we started this little garden program there one of the students came to me and he said he said I'd like to do this also for long he said can we do that and. He went around got a bunch of his buddies together and I think there are 5 or 7 of or something all Committee that they want to do this all summer long and continue that and having to go when their school was started. They they had a very good agriculture was a big thing. When the summer session of breaking all of the students said we want to keep right on here we want to keep right on this program there was another thing that happens here. Today on our kids go through and going to school system and fully 80 percent of them when they graduate never come back they're gone on a few of them come back when they're old I see that so don't give up on praying for them but what a waste you say what an absolute waste there. In Evandale. There's a quote in here someplace that says that. That. The students again which was mostly tell kids not church kids but the conversion rate the true conversion rate goes the who are truly converted. Of said go is it was almost 100 percent and in some cases some classes it was 100 percent with no exception others there might have been 2 or one or 2 or 3 exceptions there on a difference from losing 80 percent of our kids to keeping almost all there so. Huge benefits here that. 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