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25. Nurturing New Believers

Marshall McKenzie

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  • June 22, 2018
    2:00 PM
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Father heaven thank you so much for your many blessings we thank you for this time that we have together and I pray Lord that in the couple hours that we have that it will be productive that you will be glorified that your spirit will will truly lead us and guide us according to your word that we can not only be filled with your spirit but that we can reproduce ourselves and plant more churches here in the Michigan conference for your honor and glory in Jesus' name we pray Amen All right so nurturing new believers I'd like to look at the definition for nurture OK The definition for nurture is it's the process of caring for and encouraging the growth or development of someone or something OK So when we're talking about nurturing new believers we're talking about growth and development OK we're talking about growth and development of individuals the individuals that are around us OK. You know the apostle Peter was very easy. For the Lord and some cases he would you know he would even run ahead of God OK So much so that Satan used that you know use Peter to take opportunity to rebuke Christ when Christ was ready to go to the cross remember that and Peter boldly says I'll never deny you know God knew at that time Peter still needed some nurturing OK Peter still needed some some discipleship and some care and in some encouragement and so later when Peter is converted it's interesting what Jesus says to him in Luke Chapter 22 verse 32 he says and when you have returned to me what. Strengthen your brother and Peter needed nurture but ultimately the goal of that nurture was so that Peter himself would turn around and what nurture others OK church nurturing is not to get you to the place where you've arrived and you're not helping anybody else nurture is there to get you to the place where you now are nurturing other people you're passing it on you're passing on your training your you're passing on the lessons you've learned you're passing things on your strengthening the brother it OK There were times that Peter needed nurture yet at the same time Jesus consistently reminded Peter you will be strengthening your brother and you will go forth and nurture and train those around you so it's actually very fitting for Peter the one to share these words later and 1st Peter chapter 5 verse $2.00 and $3.00 he says shepherd of the flock of God which is among you serving as overseers not by compulsion but willingly not for dis honest gain but eagerly nor as being lords over those who entrusted to you but being examples to the flop it's appropriate for Peter to be the one to say these things because when you look at the life of meter oh he needed nurture he needed to be converted but then he was encouraged to nurture others and so we get these words from Peter and you'll notice he says what not to do and then he also in this verse explains what to do. OK you'll notice what not to do he says when it comes to shepherding the flock OK specifically talking to ministers but later will talk about how we're all involved in this process he says you don't do it by compulsion you know compulsion is force how far do you think you're going to get the church if you're forcing people to do stuff OK you don't nurture by compulsion or for your own benefit right for dishonest game you don't look for something in giving something otherwise we're not really giving for the right reasons OK So he says listen you don't do it by compulsion OK And believe me Peter is very zealous early on he would have definitely done it by compulsion OK or for dishonest gain or by what you don't nurture somebody by being lowered over them OK it's not like I'm watching everything you do I By the way I need you to do this and then you Mike are we the term micromanage OK that's kind of like the present day term of of basically being lords over them OK this is not how you shepherd the flock this is not how you nurture someone this is not how you work with them you don't work with them by being lords over them no notice the opposite but you do it this way you you you Shepherd willingly OK Which leads to right you're following God's will in the process of the nurturing process willingly according to God's will you do it what eagerly you know when you're nurturing somebody it's exciting when you're doing it not because I have to do it OK because this is my position. What you do it eagerly because you what you want to do it. You long to do it you just want to give to somebody what you've been gaining OK And finally as well as examples each of these is opposite of the last 3 we looked at OK and by examples not lording it over them but setting the example in the U.S. somebody to do something what should you be doing same thing you know as a pastor it's easy sometimes to sit back and say ah let the elders do that all at the deacons do that but you know what I should actually be in front of them doing what I'm asking them to do without hesitation if I'm asking them to clean the toilet I'm going to get down on my hands and knees or do whatever I need to do I'm going to do it by example OK So real nurturing Peter says do it by example Peter's not going to tell you something to do that he didn't himself do you know it's interesting in Acts chapter 10 when you read the book desire of 8 or when you read the book Act no desire of age is just talking about Peter in Acts chapter 10 and it says that when he went to Cornelius She said The Holy Spirit told him you go doubting nothing but she writes that he still went reluctantly it's something Peter didn't struggle with it didn't really want to do what he did it OK and if we're nurturing people we need to do it willingly we need to do it eagerly and we need to do it as examples we're going to set the example and then they're going to build off of that and nurturing is by the way nurturing is not optional in the Christian life OK. We always need to nurture and Christ encourages us to transition from just being members to being disciples disciples are nurturers OK there is a transition that takes place and in the Christian life this has to take place. This transition has to take place I encourage you find someone to decipher all when you leave here within your church find someone to nurture you'll grow tremendously in that process OK Find someone who's going to take your place I know we don't sometimes like to hear those words. But but Jesus understood those you know baptism is just the beginning conversion like think of a cation is the work of a lifetime the baptistry is not the last step of the Christians experience but it's one of the way it's the 1st step you know when they when someone comes out of the baptismal tank there should be 20 people ready or 5 whatever the size of your church ready to nurture that person or soon as they come out not like you've arrived Welcome to the church and then we go off our own direction OK those are the kind of people we lose over time notice it's essential That's why it's essential that the church maintain a meaningful discipleship programs in which all the members new and longtime are encouraged and strengthened in the Christian walk you know I'm I'm excited I have the old that now we've got the new set that Michigan conferences develop the discipleship book OK they're thinking this way. OK because this is what God has wanted us to do so use that book set up a process by which of those people soon as they come out of the baptismal they know I'm going right into this class and they know the reason why they're going into that class because they're actually going to teach what they were taught they're going to learn how to teach what they were taught and they're going to learn to take somebody else's position because God's going to move you on I'll talk more about this a little bit later even Peter needed nurturing from time to time once the Apostle Paul corrected Peter directly concerning his treatment of the Gentiles when the Jews are present you find that Galatians chapter 2 verse 11 even though the Holy Spirit was poured out they nurtured they held each other countable even after the fact he was also nurtured by the Holy Spirit being instructed to reach out to the Gentiles or just talk about that and he went reluctantly but he still went even though Peter needed nurturing from time to time as do others he still nurture just like we should notice our 1st calling you have your bible going turn to Mark Chapter 3 for just a minute I love this passages a few things Jesus gives us an example here of this process March after 3 OK Mark chapter 3 verse 13 and 14 if I'm going to fax this let me know OK Mark chapter 3 verse 13 and 14 and then we'll look at verse 15 you'll notice kind of a pattern here when Jesus calls the disciples OK Notice verse 13 it says and he went up on the mountain and called to him those he himself wanted So what was the 1st thing he did you want to the mountain but he what he called to himself. Paolo he called to himself Those he him those he himself wanted and they what they came to him so he called them to him they came to him and then it says and your point to 12 that they might what sort of notice he called to him they came to him so that they could be with him OK Notice Next it says After this it says that he might send them one out to preach to follow the process he calls to them they come to him so that they can be with him so that later he can work send them out to preach it's the same thing that happens in a nurturing process in the church you find somebody you ask that person to walk alongside you that person stays with you for a while only for the purpose of leaving you later to preach what they have learned from you this is example that Jesus uses how many people right now are you walking with in your church how many people right now are right it's right next to you learning from you being prepared to go out and preach if nobody it needs to change this is crisis sample this is what he did he call they came so that he could be with them for a period of time so that eventually he could work send them out to preach this is why we disciple this is how discipleship takes place so we need to pray that we can find someone to walk next to that's why I love when people come up to me there's friends that I have and someone came up with like a month ago he's like can you mentor me I'm like ha that's music to my ears because that's why I'm here. Because if I weren't doing that why did why should I be in the church anyway just for myself you know OK Jesus is an example so he called them to him they came to be with him they stayed with him only until they were ready to be sent out and then they were go out and testify in his name OK this is why it's important that we stay close to Jesus gives us his example John 15 verse 4 says abide in me and I in you as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine neither can you unless you what. Biden me Jesus said listen as a Christian you need to and by we need to consistently be with Jesus but as were with him he's consistently sending us out OK to go on God's errands so we need to abide notice I want to share another passage or just a thought here is the most powerful Christians are the ones who when asked to share their testimony can share what Christ has been doing in their lives that very week or even that very day the best nurturers are the ones who are consistently being nurtured by Christ OK as their abiding in the vine and they're learning from Christ they're drawing people to themselves for the purpose of what nurture for the purpose of developing for the purpose of making disciples OK And so these are the people that have the greatest. Examples you see so much happening matter of fact each member must have a living vibrant relationship with Christ rooted and grounded in the spirit of Divine Love before we are able to share this joyful experience with others remember this verse. Remember we saw earlier pastor Howard chair and I went over and says a disciple is not above his teacher but everyone who is perfectly trained will be what like his teacher and we just got done reading in March after 3 right to be like our teacher is to always have somebody walking next to us let me give you an example I was pastoring in a church I had 7 elders at the time and I had asked the elders OK I said How long have you been here give me that the amount of years that you've been in the church and we went around the table one of them had been in the church for 20 years another one had been in the church for 30 years another elder there's a 7 of them and we went around one of them was a charter member OK And then we added up the years it was like almost 180 years OK of experience from these 7 elders in this one church and I asked them the question I said so how many of you have been had elder 2 I said So you have 180 years of experience in this church you've been in this church that long only 2 of you have been an elder I said You tell me are you moving forwards or are you moving backward because in 180 years you should have if we're following the biblical principles they should have all been had elder They should have all trained somebody else to already take their place if not 2 or 3 people do you understand what I'm saying if we're following the biblical principle I and I and I we went through that you know it's very interesting. A few months before this meeting I went to one of the elders houses he had been a head elder and I said to Evans after watching him and working with him and I was like oh Evans I said you need to be you need to be had elder and he's like Pastor I just don't know on there or I can do that and I said no you need to take that step we've been in the church while he was upstanding member he was a great example in his family and I was like you need to take this step Oh I don't know if I can do it after this meeting we got a call to the Middle East but in coming back to visit on one of the annual leaves a year later Evans came up to me and he put his arm around me so a pastor guess what I said what he said I'm now the head elder I said Now you're moving forward if you're nurturing someone to take your place you're moving forward if you're not nurturing anybody you're pretty much not moving OK to be like the teacher is to follow the teachers example find someone in your congregation you can nurture find someone you can disciple don't let the years go by and not train someone OK not help them and hey it's OK for them to take your place you know God needs the church. I want to look here Saul and a nice as a kind of a perfect example of how God uses the church OK if you turn with me to X. Chapter 9. You turn with me to Acts chapter 9 and I just want to look at a few verses here Acts Chapter 9 verse 10 through 17. You know Jesus meets and this is incredible you can actually go to Romans chapter 2 verse don't go there right now but later Romans chapter 2 verse 2829 is where Paul says a Jew is one and wordly right not one outwardly and the circumcision needs to be the circumcision of the heart OK the experience of Saul in Acts Chapter 9 is actually Romans chapter 2 verse $28.00 it's Paul going from that outward Jew to becoming an inward you OK It's where he's meeting Jesus on the road to Damascus and everything changes OK And Paul's going through this change but as Paul's going through this change God is going to bring the church along to help him OK there are people out there that we're reaching out to some going through the same change where they're being circumcised inwardly they're going to need the church to walk alongside them in the process notice with me verse 10 of Acts Chapter 9 now there was a certain disciple at Damascus named N.I.S. and to Him the Lord said in a vision N.I.S. and he said here my lord now I like this follow here my lord it's like you hear this I am ready LORD whatever you want me to do but. So the Lord said to him Arise and go to the Street called Straight and enquire at the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus for behold he is praying and in a vision he has seen a man named N.I.S. coming in and putting his hand on him so that he might receive a sight then a Ninus answered and said I'm going Lord not really I have heard from many about this man 1st of Lord I'm here and then wait a 2nd you want me to do what. Lord's going to ask you to nurture somebody and granted probably your 1st thought is going to be really that one OK but he goes on he says Lord but this is what I've heard about him now you know what's incredible about this this shows our shortsightedness because when you read all of Acts Chapter 9 it's like God is giving you this like $30000.00 foot view you're seeing God work with Saul you're seeing and a nice nose none of this all he knows is what what he's been told by other members OK All he knows is the report that's floating around in the church OK because there's no I want you to go see this man and I want you to stand next to him I have a job for you to do in his life so don't listen to all the other voices around you you know it could become discouraging sometimes in church when you want to nurture but other people are talking about the person you're nurturing I'm going to be honest. Who cares I'm just being honest who cares if God is leading and guiding you to take that step take that step don't hesitate OK then and I says Lord I have heard many about this man how much harm is done to your saints in Jerusalem and it's true you're not saying anything that's untrue and here he has authority from the chief priest to bind all who call on your name but the Lord said to him Go now is it I love it just go or he is a chosen vessel of mine to bear my name before Gentiles kings and children of his or if you don't know the person you may nurture God may turn around and raise up to do great things in the church the rest of this story are the A pistol's from all praise God and I as when did what he was supposed to do. Because God is going to use the church to do this and N.I.S. even with some reluctance and sometimes we are reluctant we've heard certain things we've heard people talk behind this is all we know God sees from 30000 feet OK shows a limited we are we need to keep that in mind OK so go use US reason chosen vessel of mind to bear my name before Gentiles kings in the children of Israel for I will show him how many things he must offer reminding him say Can Paul start to suffer right away he's persecuted in Damascus he's running got to believe there it's interesting how that takes place pretty quick and N.I.S. went his way entered the house Legace hands on him he said Brother Saul and the Lord Jesus who appeared to you on the road as you came has sent me the you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit gone and sent me you know and it's right there in the church God doesn't only send you out to reach the lost but he also sends you within to train others to help you reach the law OK so it's really important and the church has its role OK it's an irreplaceable role why did Jesus and I asked to meet Saul couldn't Christ to perform the miracle from heaven since he was the cause of Saul's blindness to begin with when in the midst of his blind error and Prejudice notice from Acts of the Apostles page 122 when in the midst of his blind error and Prejudice Saul was given a revelation of Christ whom he was persecuting he was placed in direct communication with the way the church which is the light of the world. OK By the way it's the depository of true. So in this case and a nice represents Christ and also represents Christ ministers upon the earth who are appointed to act in his stead in Christ stead and a nice touch is the eyes of Saul that they May 1 receive. In Christ's stead he places his hands upon him and as he prays in Christ's name Saul receives the Holy Ghost all is done in the name and by the authority of Christ Christ is the fountain the church is the channel of what communication God's going to use us to walk next to somebody that he's calling into his bowl to educate to train to disciple to nurture and the goal is eventually to take your place you know when I go into pastor church My goal is ultimately to find people that can replace me because I know what God really wants is us planting more churches that's the bottom line the real success of a church is if it's planting other churches unless we're planting other churches we can never really look at ourselves and say we've been successful that's that's really the success of a church is when there reproducing themselves what to do that we need to reproduce ourselves in Word leave OK And from there it it grows and it continues to grow notice our leaders in the church have an important role in nurturing new believers but so does the church Paul speaks of that church as having different members but it is still the church notice these verses but now indeed there are many members yet one body no much rather those members of the body which seem to be weaker are what notice the weaker ones are necessary now evolution would say different but we don't believe in that right. So the weaker do have a role they do have a place they do have a part OK Notice 1st currency's 1224th or 26 or 2426 God composed the body and if one member suffers all the members suffer with it or if one member is honored all the members of us rejoice notice as one is affected the whole church is affected OK Why because we're all together. Paul is describing the interconnectedness of the body because all are involved in the nurturing or being nurtured the body continues to grow so just a few minutes on the family of Christ spiritual gardening gospel workers page 92 says after individuals have been converted to the truth they need to be was looked after and OK Remember doesn't stop with the baptismal it's just beginning so they enter a process to where they are looked after the zeal of many ministers seems to fail as soon as a measure of success attends their effort. OK they do not realize that these newly converted ones need nursing watchful attention help and encouragement these should not be left alone a prayer of things most powerful empty Asians they need to be educated in regard to their duties to be kindly dealt with to be let along and to be visited and prayed with you know there's another statement where she talks about you know when we do an evangelist experience a meeting she says the 2nd meeting is even more important than the 1st. In other words when we finish that we need to have a nother set of meetings where we're starting the nurturing and discipleship process that's why again I'm thankful for that book that discipleship book because now we can put them in another set of meetings where we began to work with them and educate them knowing that they're going to step up into a leadership role one day I'll pocket about that in a minute spiritual newborn spiritual newborns OK notice with me actually after 3 you know they understood this very clearly in X. they didn't leave they tried not to leave anybody behind Ok Now there was a situation in Acts Chapter 6 where some were forgotten not purposely there's just such a number and sometimes that happens you're growing and you're growing and all of a sudden someone might fall through the cracks but you've got to have people that you know that have their eyes and ears open that are consistently looking always for the care of those newborns but I want to go to X. X. chapter 3 OK verse 41 the 47th that's sorry actually after to thank you misprint again boy am I'm in the business a misprint. I'm glad I have an agreement from the front. I know I know I'm going to mention the 4147 says then those who gladly received his word were baptized and that day about 3000 souls were added to them and they continued steadfastly in the what the Apostles doctrine in fellowship in the breaking of bread and in prayer they continued even $3000.00 you go from $120.00 to an upper room to $3000.00 and they're still doing it and at some point they needed to know we've got to organize things because we're going to grow. OK And we're going to have the same pair with 122 as we've got with 3000 OK and they continued steadfastly I just read that verse 43 then fear came upon every soul and many wonders and signs were done through the Apostles now all who believed were what they were together and had all things in common and they sold their possessions and their goods and divided them among all as any one had me so continuing daily with one accord in the temple and breaking bread from house to house they ate their food in with gladness and simplicity of heart praising God and having favor with all people and the Lord added to the church daily those who are being served saved so you see their being served and others are being saved and then serve OK Well you see this you see this happening notice with me Chapter 4 verse 3237 it doesn't end you see the same thing repeated notice with me and actually after 4 verse 3237 you see the same thing repeated. So as now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own but they had all things in common we just read that and with great power the Apostles gave witness to the resurrection the Lord Jesus and great grace was upon them all and there was and it says nor was there any one among them who lacked for all who were possessions of lands or houses sold them brought the proceeds in the things that were sold and laid them at the Apostles feet and they distributed to each as anyone had need I mean it just goes on and on in Joseph who is also named to Barnabas by the Apostles which is translated son of encouragement a Levite of the country of Cyprus having lands sold it brought the money and later that the Apostles OK Later you read the story of some that had a challenge with that but nonetheless for the most part they were coming together people were being taken care of there was a nurturing and discipleship process that's why when you get to Acts chapter 6 when there is a problem in the church and the Apostles call out to everybody to come all the disciples were going to give you advice and you're going to solve the problem they were ready to be empowered to do that because they were consistently being taken care of everybody and they were being nurtured OK but Libyans chapter 2 verse 3 says let nothing be done through selfish ambition or currency but in the lowliness of mind let each What esteem others better then himself this is the part I want to spend a little extra time a little bit of time spiritual gifts. You know God gives gifts to his church for a reason. So blessed is church and it's to prosper everybody within the church but also those outside the church I want you to notice 1st Corinthians Chapter 12 verse one 1st Corinthians Chapter 12 verse one want you to notice something so as now concerning spiritual gifts brother and I do not want you to be ignorant he does not want us to be. Ignoring. There are diversities of gifts but the same spirit there are differences of ministries but the same Lord and there are diversities of a activities but it is the same God who works all in all but the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all is given to what each one for the profit of all $4.00 to $1.00 is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit to another faith by the same Spirit to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit to another the working of miracles to another prophecy to another discerning of spirits to another different kinds of tongues to another the interpretation of tongues but notice one in the same spirit works all these things distributing to each one what as He wills right individually as He wills now I want to bring something your attention if we are not nurturing and disciple ing others there is no need for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit because if we are not nurturing and disciple ing others there is no need for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit because all you're doing is living for yourself why would God want to honor that selfish living with the outpouring of His Holy Spirit OK this is what happens in the book of Acts. The Spirit of God falls for the purpose of delivering the message bringing people in raising up disciples so they go out and deliver the message and in that context the Spirit of God is poured out anything less than that context there is no need for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit let me give you an example in the book of Acts This is why jumping back to soon you remember the story well let's not reading yet you remember the story of the deacons I keep referring to it this is the 1st major transition that takes place in the book of Acts where Satan has the opportunity the church is growing they're all coming together people are being disciple they're being nurtured OK but there's a problem that arises now the church is not overcome by the problem what happens is they look to the potential that is within that church and they focus on the potential and they overcome the problem and the church continues to grow very following sometimes as a church because we're not consistently disciple ing and nurturing problems in our church has become crippling but if we were doing the opposite we would see the potential from that situation rather than the problem that situation causes OK And so what happens is if you actually have the deacons it's like OK we need to increase the roles of ministry so you have disciples now there's the need for what Eakins this is where you have the deacons in Acts Chapter 6 but those deacons don't just stop by being deacons the Spirit of God is poured out on them in this process and now they're given specific gifts. To continue moving the church forward notice or read this is about Stephen Stephen was one of and there's 2 in the book of Acts that are highlighted to help us understand and grasp this OK Stephen it says in action after 55 or 56 and 56 when he being full of the Holy Spirit gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God This was at the end of his sermon it says and he said look I see the heavens open and the Son of Man Standing at the right hand of God OK so what is Stephen here Stephen is actually a profit at the end of Daniel's prophecy he has he's gone from being a disciple to being a deacon to being given the gift of prophecy and that was a benefit to the church right we're living off of that we can point back to that even now in studying Daniel's prophecy OK And so he is a prophet but he starts out as someone that believes he becomes a disciple he becomes a deacon and now the Spirit of God pours out a very special gift in his life OK he's not the only one though Philip is also another one you get at right after this and Acts Chapter 8 you have the story of Philip persecution arises and all the disciples are scattered not the Apostles the disciples why because they ran the risk of being very complacent in Jerusalem you know it's kind of like we sometimes have our advantage get ohs. We can become very complacent and we forget the process God never wanted them to forget the process so he caused So there's persecution arises and they're all spread. OK And so we read the story of Philip and how Philip goes from being a believer to being a disciple to being a deacon that ultimately is given another gift OK Notice how it refers to Philip later in X. X. $21.00 verse 8 it says Paul's companions entered the house of Philip the way notice it's no longer Philip the deacon OK who is one of the 7 so he goes from being a deacon from being a believer to a disciple to a deacon to being given the gift of evangelism if our people are going through this process believe or disciple he can elder then God may turn around and say Now I want to give you the Holy Spirit because I have something else for you to accomplish now as you're going through that process you need the Holy Spirit and who's gaining all the glory in the process God is now it's in the right frame of context so here's the thing we pray for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the Lord's like will you nurture somebody so I can give them to you sometimes we compete against ourselves so nurture someone takes someone along let that someone replaces you and then God's going to give you gifts you know it's interesting there is a Church member of mine in the same church of these elders are in and I think I might have shared it briefly. But she I told you about Bible studies were talking about branch of evangelism Erica and and I told Oh yes you do have a study and because I needed her to do a study in German and she is a pastor I don't do Bible studies now she'd been a member of the church for 20 years wonderful lady she is a had Deaconess by the way wonderful lady S. lover to this day OK I said oh yes you do so she started doing the Bible study I said I'll walk here's the thing remember I walk alongside you if you want me to train you if you want me to work with you she's a no no pastor I can go it was like OK we got past that so she can do it she finish this Bible study and what it wasn't so much that the person was baptized after what was amazing to me and to the whole church see Erica for like 20 some years would never saying by herself she'd always say she had a nice voice but she'd always sing in groups on the day of the person's baptism that she had been studying with the Lord specifically impressed her you need to sing solo so she came to me just before the baptism she said Pastor she said don't tell anybody OK She's like I'm going to sing a solo I said Really you do that she said I've never done that but the Lord is leading me to do that I said OK So this is great and you should A saw the eyes in the mouths drop in that congregation she's doing that. It's amazing how the Lord will lead you when you're willing to lead somebody else if you're not willing to lead anybody else how can the Lord really league do you understand your role as a Christian is dependent on you walking next to somebody else and decide pulling them. If you don't do it you will shrink in your Christian experience until eventually you don't have it anymore this is the picture in the book of Acts we see it this is why we need to be proficiency in the book of Acts notice 1st Corinthians Chapter 12 or 7 but the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the what prophet of you for the prophet of all this is why the Spirit of God is given it's to be a blessing to all OK so if you since Chapter 4 verse 12 says in relationship to this this outpouring of the Holy Spirit the gifts for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry for the edifying of the Body of Christ you know that you have a good nurturing plan in your church when consistently the roles of ministry are consistently increasing in other words you don't have the same elder for 20 years you may have in that 20 years 10 different head elders it's the role of ministry as you focus on the roles of ministry increasing God's going to continue to pour out His Spirit because you're going to know you're going to need it and you're going to need it and you're going to need it because you're working for the profit of all and for the work of ministry OK By the way I want to go back to actually quickly is a point I'd like to make is we're coming to a close and Acts chapter 2 actually in action after 4 and I want you to notice verse 33 and then 3435 says and with great power the Apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus and great grace was upon them all I love that great way and notice how they respond to such a grace. Nor was there any want to mung them who lacked for all who were possessors of lands and houses sold them and brought the proceeds to the things that were sold this is the point when we are coming to Christ and we're being disciple and we long to disciple others there is a change you know to become a church that is a training center to become a church that is a disciple in church the church is going to have to make changes and the thing is that sometimes we're not willing to make those changes but this church was willing to make the changes think about it people are selling land and they're doing it up and everybody's making sure everybody that church was constantly going through change and positive ways so that everybody was being discipled and nurtured you know it was interesting one time I was standing up I had been in Africa and they invited me to preach in a church where they're getting ready in a mission Institute but to go overseas to the Middle East but they had asked me to come to an African church know when I walk into this church there was no carpet there was there all there was were lawn chairs but there were lawn chairs that were just one right after another after another and they packed out the church and everybody sitting outside and they didn't have hardly anything OK And then when I came back home I remember standing up front and I asked them the question how many of you would like your carpet to be gone let's just take it out tomorrow they're like No I said what about the pews let's get rid of those and bring in lawn chairs and they're like No I said well what if we build this church with about 500 people they said let's get rid of it you understand I'm saying it's like we're not willing to make the change but we want the fruits of change you follow but the church annex was willing to make the changes. There was definite change that had to take place you know when my son was born my 1st son was born. It was an emotional experience matter of fact so emotional that I didn't even get there in time to cut the umbilical cord I was like back in the corner. Again but we were that good and and when I knew why was it such an emotional experience I was so happy but in that happiness I knew there was going to be what changes that I needed to me OK But you know what it was OK. Because there was new life and I was willing to make the changes because of the new life you want a new life in your churches be willing to make the changes be willing to make the changes and sure it may bring you to tears so make some of those changes but make them anyway you know we need to disciple people at least the challenge at least find someone in your congregation that you can walk next to that you can pour your knowledge and understanding into and get to the place where they take your place period and then the Lord's going to do something in that process with you and with that person and you'll see things and experience things you never have before just like Eric and others that I can tell you about so anyway that's a word of prayer. And we'll move on we're going to get a 5 minute break Father in heaven thank you again so much for your many blessings Lord we need your Holy Spirit but you need us to go forward and they do your work and so I just pray in a very special way you'll give each of us the courage the strength Lord the burden for teaching somebody else what you sow so graciously given to us. Lord I thank you for your word and your truth and I pray that you will truly be glorified in Jesus precious and holy name we pray long for your soon return may we hasten it as we describe in Jesus' name we pray in this media was brought to you by audio perhaps a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse for you would like to listen to more sermon please visit W.W.W. dot audio Verse dot org.

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