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02-Blueprint for a Better World

Israel Ramos Justin Kim Sikhu Daco Callie Williams

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Justice and mercy in the Old Testament is seen in how God delivers His laws and what the laws say.

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  • July 13, 2019
    9:30 AM

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Hebrew Scriptures have these Old Testament laws some are very very old some are a very very weird Should we keep them and what special insights do we have for today find out in this episode of In verse. Coming to you from Silver Spring Maryland welcome to the Bible based conversation on life principles contemporary issues and thought provoking Specter now here's your host just until within. A Well friends were so glad you decide to set some time apart to spend time with us and we are so privileged for your presence to be with our conversation here today we're looking at the concepts of justice and mercy throughout the Bible and last we looked at the book of all not really the book of one portion of the book of of Genesis and we're not going look at Exodus Leviticus Numbers and Deuteronomy and there are so I want to so yes there's enough time and we're going toward a prayer of the Lord give us efficiency and so prayer will be given by Israel Ramos for the Old Testament and we'll get to the. Let's pray 5. Thank you Father for this time that we have together and for this privilege that we have to study your word be with us please we ask in Jesus' name amen amen amen our starting verse is in Exodus chapter 3 verse 16 and 17 and see who can read it for us Exodus chapter 3 verse 16 verse 17 which is after verse 15 OK verse 18 which waiting for his will to get there. He doesn't know his exodus. Just start reading all those the numeral numeral order of of life OK OK I'm going to start with you good luck you know if you prefer 16 and we will get. Go and gather the Elders of Israel together and say to them the Lord God of your fathers the God of Abraham Isaac and of Jacob appeared to me saying I have surely visited you and seen what is done to you in Egypt and I have said I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt to the land of the Canaanites and the Hittites and the Amorites and the parasites and the his eyes and the sights to the land flowing with milk and honey. You know we're going to read a lot of other verses in the Old Testament but Kelly this particular verse really brings out something a fiend throughout the Old Testament in can you help us out what's going on there Yes So 1st is God speaking to Moses and he's calling Moses to go deliver his people out of Egypt and wasn't really keen on that but anyways so he's telling Moses what to how to introduce God back to his people and I think the theme that's been sick out to me is the end of verse 16 or so he says I have surely visited you and seen what is done to you in Egypt because God It seems like God has been silent for hundreds of years with their sufferings and I got to Scott See Does God know does he have any idea we're going through but his 1st introduction before even says like I'm going to live for you I'll take you to a better place his 1st thing is I know what you're going through I've seen you and I visited you this goes this goes right this builds right on last last weeks or last episode in creation in the creation narrative we have from the very very beginning of time you know God and God saw So you have this this this picture of God from the very beginning this introduction of God If you read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation you have an introduction of God as God who speaks of God who sees a God who intervenes I mean just look at all the different actions that God is doing in Genesis chapter one and you and I think that the reason why that's critical for us is because from the very beginning of time God sets the foundation of I am a God who sees I'm a God who speaks I'm a God who intervenes I'm a God who's dependable all these things it's like before you even get to Exodus before you get to slavery before you get the problems this is the kind of god who I am in my nature and so God answers the problem even before the problem exists and that's the foundation that Genesis chapter one provides for Exodus Chapter 3. And. I think I think that I'm putting myself in the shoes of the Israelites here in this message I have surely visited you and seen what is done to an Egypt there's something about. Feeling that somebody understands what you're going through but not just understand that somebody has has a comprehension of the breath of the situation of the depth of the situation something in our humanity that longs to be understood that longed to to to to be recognised for our situation to be seen and the fact that God comes to Israel in this way and says I have seen he speaking to their hearts he's saying that I understand what you're going through and even though it may seem you know in the darkness of your situation sometimes you may feel alone you may feel like nobody understands but I understand and I have seen what you're going through again philosophy there this concept of solitude as I'm aware there the idea is that nobody loves as I'm like every show every human being is an island to themselves and no one can ever really understand what you're going through and you know when you stop and you if you think too deeply about it it can be kind of depressing you know like whatever you're experiencing no one can actually experience the experience that you're experiencing in the way that you're experiencing it because nobody is you and your God comes to us and in an intimate way he says I am one who can understand I'm one who has comprehension of the situation that you're in in a way that nobody else can and that's what God says isn't and I'm just not that but also the words that God uses here and he says I have seen and I have said in other words this what I have seen and what I've said this is a journey that we've been on it's not I am now visiting you and I am now speaking to you but I have been with you through this process I've been there already and this is important to understand in our in our experience with God and then in verse 16 latter part of his surely it says sure and I have surely biz it in you in other words there is there is no doubt that God has been with his people is what he's trying to say and this is important because the presence of God or God. Experience with the fact that my experience can intersect with God's experience Russia said the opposite way the fact that God's experience can intersect with my experience it's crucial when you're going through difficult and challenging times and it's crucial when you're going through some of the darkest moments of your life God has been through us with those moments and not only that but it says I have said so in other words I have already spoken I've already provided a solution for your problem and your challenge and here why does God say that there's different reasons why God would speak and would say I have already said sometimes this could be interpreted to mean that God is not listening and he already says you know it's like before you have a problem I already have the solution but but this is not the experience of God is speaking of here what he is speaking of here is the fact that he has already had a solution for a problem which intented really the intended result with that is that there is no need to fear it eliminates the fear God already has a solution he already knows our problem and because of these 2 things then there is no need to fear for what is in the future and this is the foundation this is this picture that's emerging from this sect is that God is such a relational entity that because the Israelites are in trouble Goggins Hey I've got this thing covered or I've solved so I'll solve this for you he doesn't come from that angle right away I like to bring your attention to verse 7 where it's kind of a preamble to this this passage we just read verse 7 X. the 3 The Bible says the Lord said I have surely seen the oppression of my people who are in Egypt and have heard their cry because of their taskmasters for I know their sorrows there's this to a lament of seeing and hearing if we had time time does not allow for if every time in the Bible God says I see you in this kind of cultural meaning today you know I see you because I see you and I hear. And that foundation is is laid 1st you see all the times in the in your old testament I'm thinking of Hagar or even Leah the older sister in their times of injustice you're saying Lord do you seen me and then I know now that you have heard to me or where Leo when she had her 1st born son she's a Rubens which means see a son and her 2nd born she may on a like her you have heard me this kind of seeing and hearing things and such a relational God that God doesn't say babies come a male thing for me and in my marriage I'm more of the female and my wife is more the male but I I want to be heard and I want to be I want to be seen I want I want to start I DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SO I want that to be laid 1st and when my wife is that that's just all the problem and move on and I think a lot of guys out there would identify with that and a lot of ladies would identify with what I'm saying God is God is God both we see both things and that's what I want my takeaway here and then because because he sees and because he hears he knows and that's portrayed in this and because of that nature is actually I have said and he starts moving things around. As I say you know we when we think about a relational got a lot of time to think of the New Testament I think of Jesus was you know this manifestation revelation of God and you know when we think of God being with us we'll think Matthew 28 you know I'm with you always but I love you know you were pointing out that all the way from Genesis God is a God who sees you know he's a God who interacts and relates with his creation so that the Jesus that you see revealed in the New Testament is the same Jesus that is the same God that's been there throughout the Old Testament and explicitly so God who sees and hears and understands and cares about our situations and moving on to that he goes into action as well because I think it is good to be heard understood but you share in someone's like Wow that's awful. Somebody else want to say and that's not very satisfying. But you mean really goes from in verse 17 of chapter 3 verse 17 and I've said I will bring you up out of the affections of Egypt and the land of all these sites to a land falling with milk and honey and it's not even just an I'll fix it but he says I will deliver you and I'll take you to this place and this is what this place is like and me as a planner that I am I like how explicit he is and his plan for his people not only will you not stay there but I'll take you to a better place with a better place like this where it is geographically and that's where it is quality wise it's very specific you know you get all the items where the Canaanites are the Hittites or the I'm like if you have a map here and says about it and you think like what suffering people are like hey I'll take you to or you know I'll take you exactly to this place where these people and these people in these people is for a living that play is kind of a specific specific. Talks about God is able to back up what he's going to do you know it's like when you're playing in the U.S. you have this game where you play horse you get the basketball and you have the shooting and you have to call ahead of time the shot that you're going to make and if you don't make it then you don't you know you don't get the point or whatever and you know it takes a lot of skill and courage and understanding who you are for you to be able to say I'm going to shoot the ball from here it's going to hit the back board 1st before it goes into the hoop now you know a guy can really play basketball girl can play basketball they can do that and here God is saying the land I'm not just going to tell you this wonderful awesome Fairy Tale Land I'm going to give the land is owned by this person by that people by this people but that people it flows with milk and honey this is how it looks and I'm telling you all of that because I have confidence in what I'm able to do I'm going to do exactly what I say I'm going to do you can write that down you can take it to the bank and. Hers by basketball analogy. We're feeling it brings a lot of confidence when somebody speaks with that kind of confidence that you know it's very comforting for you who is going to this situation like for and all for me when when my then boyfriend was. Convinced me to know then friend was trying to convince me to get into a relationship to be exclusive of seeing one another to us very. Very hard. I just want to make sure we start your yes the one you know has. TO BE SO WHAT ARE she was well yeah your boyfriend and he laid out a plan like he had a strategy is like you know I I like you and if you like me well enough then let's begin talking about how we're going to move forward and in 6 months time I'm going to be going to California so you seem to hold that thought hold I thought we have to take a commercial break right now in the middle of your courtship story when we come back we're going to hear what Archie did to win hard here on and. Ask him 1st in a Blessing to you Do you have questions comments or feedback you'd like to leave us find us on social media by searching ends or spiral on Facebook Twitter Instagram for you to while there join us like us on Ask comes up and I handle again is in 1st Bible no states and now back to the discussion. Hey welcome back to talk about a cliffhanger we are in the middle of see who sharing her story and we've established this gentleman and eventually became has been but what did he do well but what I was trying to share in the story is that. When when he was proposing courtship yes can stand. Before the courts of to me. For me the idea of you know dating relationship marriage etc for where I was in my life that was a scary concept for me you know it seemed like a really huge ominous thing. And but the way that he presented it was he had he had a plan and he had a strategy in mind it wasn't overbearing. It wasn't like OK then you're going to do this it's cetera but it was comforting because he was like OK in your culture if this works out I'm going to have to bring some cows to your father if that was the case how many should I anticipate so that I can plan ahead and strategize like how long I should work for to save it was kind of like to interject here I mean you just lost a whole portion of our viewers there give us some cultural context out how did cows come into play with we have story I guess you were. Sometimes OK yeah and so if if he wanted to tell everybody. And if you leave a man wants to marry a woman he needs to bring. Yes just to the parents. In the form of cows which is often translated then into a dollar amount OK there's a modernised can get can be very constant times it's actually it's not I'm imagining Archie with like you know the ropes and cows and because I'm going to do it right I mean this is what you have to. Do you also asked like do I do I need to go to Zimbabwe and buy cows you know it's like you know you can just transfer the funds so he had a. Plan and for for For me going into considering the possibility of entering into a courtship with this man just him having a plan and having it laid out you know a strategy was comforting for me I just love that when we talk about God speaking to the Israelites not only have I seen your situation I've heard I have a plan it's a specific plan and I have a strategy that is comforting for someone who's going through situation like you know how I'm not sure and leaving my comfort zone etc But God has a strategy and a plan in mind and this is the basis for the laws of the Old Testament here. The God of relationships you see where the Israelites are where they came from and pointing to direction where they should go let's go to Exodus 23. We access to the St couple more chapters down access 23 verses 923 verse 9. In Cali can you read it for us yes also you shall not oppress the stranger for you know the heart of a stranger because you were strangers in the land of Egypt OK So this is another thing that we find throughout the Old Testament laws he will give you he gave us whatever law and then he concludes were clues with the words for you are also a stranger in Egypt going back to what you just read before an Exodus Chapter 3 so Israel what's going on there why does he give this copy out as a reminder every single because it's easy for us to forget a lot of times you know we go through journey in life and we forget how we once felt when we were in that situation that's very easy for me I'm a father of 3 boys and you know there are a reflection of me and so they do stuff that I did when I was a kid and when they do that when when I was a child and I did things and I got punished for them by my my dad I said to myself I will never do this to my child I will be a loving father you know I'll be a kind that and and now my kids go through these things and my immediate response my really need it reaction is to be a mean dad like my dad was to me right I got a pass on that generation and I said that. But but what happens is that I forget how it was to be a child this is the human the human problem that we forget and and it is a sin to forget because when we forget what we felt in that kind of a situation and then someone else comes a new stranger comes in and we mistreat that stranger the same thing upon them we impose on them something that we ourselves hated while we're. All this I have a pocket see there it's the ultimate result and also don't remind me of when I was in high school when I best friend she was talking about a boy and why was not being kind to her to one of our mentors it was Jen and I was talking about as a terrible and later on she. Back just like I was so why did I care about that and she went talk to John about it like why did you take me seriously like that was really not important and Jen just said because it was important to you and it meant a lot to you and so the same way we can look at people who look at strangers about all the strangers take care of themselves like we don't need to care about them but it's like even if you don't feel their pain remember that they feel their pain and if you can't feel yourself like pull yourself back at that time and I think there's there's legitimate pain in there sometimes people perceive things that is difficult and still being merciful and compassionate even if you have forgotten what that experience is like so these these elements these principles that you're talking they're kind of big into the actual laws it's the background context that these laws are not given in ice isolation you know I think in the American culture there was that one individual who lived and keeping all has been lost for one year and he just kept it was a ridiculous almost a parody of the Old Testament laws and he wasn't keeping what this is these big in principles behind the laws just the extra melodies so let's actually get to some of these these laws here but to do it around me 14 and so you can read you're only 14. So from verse 22. And when you until you get tired there and you also look at Leviticus 25 and look at those 2 and then any other laws that come into our Army 14 want to do it I mean 14 verse 22 says you shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year and you shall eat before the Lord your God in the place where he chooses to make his name abide the tide of your grain and your new wine and your oil of the firstborn of your herds and your flocks that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always but if the journey is too long for you so that you are not able to carry the tithe always the place where the Lord your God chooses to put his name is to follow from you when the Lord your God has blessed you then you shall exchange it for money take the money in your hand. And go to the place which the LORD your God chooses and you shall spend that money whatever your heart desires for oxen and sheep for wine and some of the drink whatever your heart desires you shall eat them before the Lord your God and you shall rejoice you in your household you shall not forsake the Levite who is within your gates will he has no partner inheritance with you at the end of every 3rd year you shall bring out the ties of your produce of that year and store it up within your gates and the Levites because he has no portion no inheritance with you and the stranger and the fatherless and the widow who are within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do OK from the 1st show we looked at how God is merciful he's seeing and he's hearing he's a God of justice he's got an action and he says we're all built into these law so we're not going to look at tithing I mean we spent a whole season on stewardship and you go back to our archives on our website to look at that scene particularly on those 13 episodes but we're just taking tithing as an as an example so bring out those elements where why why tithing why and what's what's what's baked into the character of God What do we see in the character of God from this this law is wrong the 1st thing to stress again is that for everything that God says is really there's a principle behind it and then for us God is not evolved and so now we're not looking at a different God and in Deuteronomy that we have in Genesis just the purpose here in verse in verse 23 as it says there that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always and so that's the principle when it comes to the principle of tithing is that's given to us for a reason because we need to learn to fear the Lord our God always the implication there is a either we don't know how to fear the Lord or we don't always know how to fear the Lord there's something wrong with the human nature that God gives us these principles the other thing there that the other element that emerges there is the fact that in these laws that God gave in these little. The laws of God Gave are these laws in Deuteronomy there's an element of God And then there's also an element of freedom so there's a place that God chooses in verse $25.00 but then in verse 26 there's also whatever your heart desires and so here there is this play an interplay between what God instruct his people to do and then also freedom these laws are very practical right if you have so much if I put has you in such a huge way that you literally can't transport the cows from the from the from the United States to Zimbabwe on Delta Airlines then then you know what just go ahead and cash in the money and bring the cash right so these laws are very practical and then finally it says you will rejoice the purpose of God's law at the end of the day is that there is this element of rejoicing you reflect back you've learned to trust God trusting God was not an easy thing there was times when it was hard for you to trust God but you learned to trust God and God bless you you were able he was able to make the shot that he said he was going to make and as a result you look back and you think man God has been good to me right God has been super good to me and there's an element of rejoicing that takes place and all this you have to take into context this whole thing this whole reason why God gives the laws are not given to us and of those are internal factors of why the law was built but there's also extra non-factors that we see later on in verse $29.00 he mentions that this toddlers use for the Levi but not only the Levi but the stranger the fatherless the widow who are within your that they may come any and be satisfied that the Lord your God may bless you all in all the work of God So this is this there is the internal component so you may learn about God fearing God and you said denial of selfishness built into that but it's also there's an extra component and that's beautiful because the way that we relate to God and what God is doing in us is related to how we relate to other people and in particular to the people who are disadvantaged because it says the Levite he has no portion of the inheritance that he so he's at a disadvantage. Material disadvantage by comparison to you yes and when you are giving to God the way that you give to God is to benefit those people who are materially disadvantaged compared to you the stranger that's within your gates there are displaced for displaced people you have a home but they're displaced and so the way that you give to God is by helping those people who do not have a home when you have a home and it harkens back to what we had read before about remember that you were a stranger remember where you came from where God brought you from and so the realizing who you are in God the relation what God has done in your life ought to bring an awareness of the needs of others around you so that the way that I give back to God is by giving back to the people who have needs around me that God has been helping me with so I know I'm not wealthy or rich or blessed because of my own doing but God has done this in me and in honor to God I can do this in the lives of other people and we can do this through through for all lot of the laws of the Old Testament we don't have time to get into the Jubilee we can see how justice and mercy is big then it benefits the keeper of the law it benefits the society of that law because look Kelly let me ask you should we keep all these laws and how does that work and in our day in modern day in context so we see a young person out there and they're like man there's just one law about you know boiling the calf in its mother's milk do we need to keep these things all of them I think an ethical short answer is No I don't think we heap all of them like that guy who kept them for a whole year and yeah we do that but I do think we need to keep them in principle because their underlying principles of justice and of mercy and of prioritizing service to God and others and so those principles are timeless and you know the applied and I think a lot of those rules came out because people didn't know how to apply principles for guys like let me break it down real simple for you so you understand everything and so even though all those minute it doesn't apply anymore. For the principle still do so in a way yes but also we're talking about the economic laws Yeah I mean there are also the other moral laws and ceremonial laws and there are different bent but there's some of these social societal laws that built in is about the character of God's justice and mercy are built into it and that still needs to be kept by us you know how do we judge if we're if we've had this experience with God This internal experience or you're saying we simply judge that by how we relate externally and that's a test if we don't have these extreme all things with the rest of the world we don't have an internal relationship with God so much for joining us we are exploring the concepts of justice and mercy we're looking at the Old Testament and next we're going to look at different parts of the Old Testament like the Psalms and proverbs and the prophets and so it can be a whole potpourri of fun so join us here next week on in verse. 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