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Ignite Your Church - Part 12: Your Master Plan

Jim Howard

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  • June 21, 2019
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Father in heaven we thank you for the blessing of fellowship and the Spirit of God We just know Lord that there is no way that we could each one of us be here if it were not for you drawing us so Lord help we pray to fulfill your purpose for us being here each one of us and help us to absorb and learn what we need to to actually make a bigger impact on the Kingdom of God and the growth of your church we pray in Jesus name. So let's look at this briefly starting with the top where it says key indicator chart this particular master plan asks for certain numbers baptisms Bible studies literature discipleship studies Sabbath worship attendance Sabbath school attendance ties and school enrollment and these are meant to be indicators of the health of your church and you know help you to be able to tell how your church is doing from year to year Ok Now some of these you may not have started tracking so you might need to think about how to do that but you get an idea of what is being asked for here then there's a section here called retention and discipleship chart this is intended you know oftentimes we look at indicators that are very easy to measure like baptism and tie and by looking at those indicators we you know can tell certain things but only so much and one of the things that we know in the some of the evidence church over the last 50 years is that at least 4 out of 10 of our members have left the church so roughly our retention rate is about 60 percent as a global church. Now there are different reasons for this and I may talk about that a little bit but the reasons most people give is that we are not doing enough to nurture our new members after baptism and I agree that that is true but I think almost half of the problem and this is just from a global church standpoint this may not be the case in most places in Michigan but from a global church perspective and I just talked to their tension nurturer tension committee about this a couple weeks ago at the General Conference The problem is what we're not doing before baptism so in many places in the global church there is such an emphasis on the growth of the church that people are being baptized to. Have very limited understanding of what it means to be a 7th Ammons and people do not stay in the church when they never really fully embrace the church as much and so this is a problem and we are trying to address that at the last nurture retention summit everything was about discipleship and what you're doing with members afterwards and about membership audits and about reclaiming missing members and all these things that are we commonly talk about and so we talked about in the meeting afterwards I mean we did a little review and I shared that I think we have a major problem because we are not in our nurturing retention summits talking about what we're doing prior to baptism what we're doing to prepare people for baptism and it's because there's a taboo subject if I could say as much here in North America when I was you know. In the vans them director position I remember getting a survey and I could tell from the survey what it was asking basically the viewpoint was that 2. Make sure that people understand and practice the 20 fundamental beliefs is tradition it's based on tradition and that we want to baptize biblically we should just baptize people as soon as they want to be baptized and then we should just be careful to decipher them afterwards and this is simply not true the reality is that we know very little of what happened in these cases we take little select verses of scripture and think that we know the full context of what was going on and we don't know the reality is that there was a very different group of people that were being dealt with in the early Church Times in which many if not most of them had a full knowledge of the types of biblical fundamentals that you and I. Have learned but they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah and when they did there was a thorough understanding there was also the fact that we have been given lots of counsel a spirit of prophecy that really helps us know the things that are important for us to make sure that we emphasize before someone is baptized and if we had time we would have a hole in past years we've had whole sessions on preparing for baptism I would recommend and I'll share. In a moment so you can remember but we're going to be publishing through the review and herald a book that we published 1st here in Michigan called Fundamentals of faith and I think everybody has baptized it 1st go through something like fundamentals of fate which is a battle preparation guide and it's pretty thorough and make sure that people understand the decision that they're making. So this is a this is a problem for retention is what happens before about is not just what doesn't happen after but if you're going to know what's happening with people you can just ask them about baptisms you also have to know where are they doing 2 years after their baptized. Because you know if we're if we're not simply making members but if we are according to the mission making disciples then we need to know how is that going how is the development of discipleship going so in this retention and discipleship chart in the middle of this page it starts by asking for your total number of baptisms and professions of faith in the last 2 years Ok this one was a 220 Yeah they needed to change that you should say 27 to 20 minutes your last 2 years and then it says how many of of these new members moved away or have died or whatever Ok so let's remove those from the number so let's say you have 12 new members in the last 2 years and then 2 of them one of them moved to another state and one of them passed away now you have 10 new members in the last 2 years of those 10 new members how many attend Sabbath worship service regularly probably 3 times a month attend Sabbath school regularly on 10 prayer meeting or small group regularly have been assigned a spiritual mentor and are being actively disciple actively engaged in witnessing in church ministries are now giving one or more bible studies to other non Evans I would say to not have minister hold a church office are mentoring or to cycling someone else or no longer actively attend Sabbath worship services so this gives you a better picture when you do it of what you're really looking at a couple of years after how many are really still attending and then of those how many are actually actively participating and this is something that you should do so what would need to happen in order to complete this is you know the pastor with the elders or with the church board. I would look at the list you know it's not difficult in Michigan you just use the advantage to pull up your baptism and profession of faith list from the last 3 years look at the whole list you've got the names right in front of you and you ask you know of these how many that that that that that that you fill this out and why you're doing it you have a little aha moment right because you're like can maybe we're not you know maybe we need to figure out some things we can do better because we're not seeing the type of ongoing development that we want yes. That we're. Seeing with this a lot of. These. Kids say. Oh I do as. Well. I mean I guess the 1st thing that I would do is talk to the pastor openly about it and share the specific areas maybe that a new member that you are a prospective new member that you feel that they they are not quite ready one thing that you can also do in here in Michigan is. You know it was here that we developed the Baptist baptismal preparation God fundamentals of faith so if there's some aspect of that that they clearly are not. You know comfortable with then you can share that with the past and say look it says right here this is you know something that we want to make sure that we have helped them to embrace and they have not embraced this yet and therefore you know I don't know that we should feel comfortable with this I mean with the conference feel comfortable with this you know I mean because they helped to develop this and have those personal conversations with the pastor if you feel that a pastor is just bent on you know slip and. We call it that. If that is that is like a philosophy you're kind of sensing then you might want to have at that point a further conversation with ministerial and just explain that you know your son comfortable with. But I would make sure that I processed it through carefully with the pastor 1st. But I mean it's a real issue and we don't want to be doing that you know if it's now there are let's be clear there are areas where you know you're you're using judgment. But a lot of times it's not a gray area and it's pretty clear and people are doing it anyway and those are cases where you need to address or. There is pressure from the Lord Jesus on every pastor to baptize as many people as possible. So every pastor feels a burden to baptize Ok whether the conference put that on them or not. Most pastors will feel it a part of their calling to be baptized Ok so that pressure is sort of it's it's a healthy pressure actually. You don't want pastors one of the problems it happens in a lot of places because they're so well we don't want to be about numbers we don't want to be about numbers it has become a status quo no doesn't matter let's not worry about numbers we're about growing a church whatever and we can't get in that mindset either so we have to be both yes we've got a we've got to remember our mission includes baptizing Jesus told us that but also you know we cannot baptize people who are not ready to be baptized and if they're not ready then it doesn't matter how badly we want that to happen we can't do it in a pastor ever feels you know I mean there are cases I'll just be transparent here in this conference as well as many conferences I'm sure where if you have pastors who have 0 baptisms or one baptism multiple years their ministrations talking to them because that's not fulfilling their calling they're not going to church to me that's I mean part of being ordained is that you show that you are a soul in her and you show that you the call of God is upon you. So if there is this blank slate for multiple you know I mean it's everybody can have a bad year here or there maybe one or 2 but if you have some consistent 01 for years year can believe that those pastors are being coached you know they're not being scolded we want every pastor to succeed but but pastors do feel a certain should feel a certain drive to want to grow the church but that is totally. Harmonious with also having the same conscientious conviction to not baptize someone when they're not ready to be baptized the aged those things should be going in and. So that's what I would say that you know we talked a little bit about this Mark talked about it on Sunday I know but I'm just going to I'm going to share a couple things about the growth model of disciple making that I think every church needs to think about and it does connect with what you're saying Vera before it's all said and done. But I'm going to quiz you 1st Ok so since Mark already went over this and most of you have been here the whole time so tell me what is the 1st step in your you 1st meet someone what do you need to do. As the 1st phase of disciple making and it's it's this is not here. For the soil that's right what do we do to do that friendship mingle meet their needs Ok all right Ok testimonies coming in here. What's a gain trust Ok so in this happens through building friendship ministering to me it's Ok Well well well fleshed out a bit more in a moment but you could add different types of needs and that sort of thing but then what's the next thing that you would do once you have gained some level of confidence Ok what's the seed Ok so how do you do that meant something about your faith so enter into some dialogue and spiritual conversation right you test the soil a little bit what we generally since this is just the 1st planting this is often talking about spiritual conversations or sharing your testimony or sharing a piece of literature or media Ok so planting is just just beginning to plant the seed. If they show interest from that then what do we need to do when to study the Bible with them you need to cultivate that spiritual interest and as you study with them the spiritual interest grows and that's the longest phase in the decipher making process it can take months to do that and then once you have studied and they have a knowledge of the truth what happens then Ok what's the hardest Ok and to get a baptism would you need to do you need to ask Ok in to appeal for decisions whether it's publicly or personally to appeal for decisions and then they ultimately will make decisions culminating with the ultimate baptism decision Ok and then was it preserved that harvest through the cycling Ok mentoring and getting them involve this involves both developing them in their own spiritual habits and deepening them spiritually their own understanding of the truth making that deeper also involving them in activity in the Church involving them in the social life of the church getting involved in personal witnessing and things like that so this is developing them growing them and getting them engaged so that the cycle continues now I mean to say something about the idea of this being a cycle and continuing the number one problem we have in our churches in terms of growth the number one problem we have in the 7th Day Adventist Church in terms of growth is that we have not taken serious the mission of making disciples and we have stopped after we baptize them so for instance if you baptize someone. Ok certainly that is reason to celebrate but what do you need to then do what do they need to be experiencing next Ok winning souls but getting them engaged in winning souls is not enough they actually if they just win souls then it stops there so what do they actually need to be training them to do so if I win one person and train them to win someone else then once they win that someone else it's done I actually have to train this person to win and train people so the idea is not just disciples who make other disciples but disciples who make disciple makers I mean you have to think and put it in this context and your own life who are you are the leaders you are mentoring to be leaders because if we are not then we ourselves are not really linked in to the cycle we need to have people in member Jesus when the disciples were following him around what was he doing with them teaching them what. To do what he did right and and it's fascinating because I'm a show you a text go to 2nd Timothy Chapter 2. Second Timothy 2 the Apostle Paul writing to Timothy young minister says in verse one you therefore my son be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus now I'm in 2nd Timothy Chapter 2 and verse 2 and the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. So how many. How many different chains links in this chain Do we have we have Paul who taught Timothy and Timothy was to teach faithful men who could teach others also do you see in Paul's mind he didn't see an end to this thing everybody who teaches is making teachers who teach I mean the idea is even when we get out of the member mindset and we say we need to make soul winners oftentimes they themselves are not imbued with that passion to make other small winners so they so there has to be an ongoing philosophy in the minds of 7th Day Adventists that we make leaders we are leaders who make leaders that's what we're doing we're not just winning it's not just the baptistery that's only We've only gotten part way when we've got into the bathtub story the real issue is then actually training that person to become a trainer and that takes an ongoing process there needs to be that's why Ellen White says that every church should be a training school for Christian workers because it's not just about us receiving the truth and assimilating it it's about the church becoming a training school of ongoing development and that is the only way that we can move from the plan of addition to the plan of multiplication so that philosophy that vision has to be instilled into every church member and that's the idea of Jesus evangelist strategy and it's fascinating because if you look at Jesus' ministry he did minister to the masses but he focused to a great degree. On the disciples I mean he spent a significant amount of time just with the disciples they were the ones he was most concerned about why because when he left they were going to be responsible for taking it to the world so he poured himself into those 12 men he poured himself into those men and we have to recognize that mentoring people after they're baptized to where they understand the full weight of the mission and message of the some of the evidence church to understand that is vital we can't just baptize people and then make sure that they get involved in greeting and scripture reading and that and that's a start but they've got to be developed into this soul winning mindset of making other leaders who make leaders and this is going to take ongoing training a whole philosophy shift in many of our churches it's it has to become part of the of the environment an atmosphere of a church and right now in most of our churches it simply is not so this is why this is an ongoing cycle now I'm going to give you another paradigm shift when we talk about evangelist extract a gee we need to start. Ok normally we talk about Ok let's build a calendar on the back of the master plan you'll see calendar of events and that's part of what you'll want to do when we talk about building a calendar and usually if you've been if you want say usually but if you've been around evangelist sick trainers you've heard people talk about the different phases of the evangelistic process and they will put certain events in order on evangelise a calendar so in a public evangelists stick meeting might be the anchor point that's your harvest and before that you have heavy dose of Bible study pre work and before that you have you know health cooking schools and community service of events things like that and maybe a literature month and of course at the end then you have your discipleship this is nothing really nothing wrong with that 9 courage there to be a systematic approach of the calendar but what I believe is that a church needs to have a certain bedrock foundational ministries that are always happening and what happens in many churches is they just build these event calendar and they don't have these ongoing bedrock ministries and I believe these ministries can be summarized one for each phase of the evangelistic cycle Ok and if you are on the website you can see this on the about page Ok so. To prepare the soil we need church wide community ministries this is the. Bedrock prepare ministries Ok this is going to be yes health ministries but also community ministries no one I'm not a purposefully not saying Community Services not because I don't believe in community services but because we equate community services with what food and clothing Ok so we think health ministry is cooking school and community services is food clothing who'd by the way takes care of the food and clothing ministry tell the truth 3 little old ladies who have been doing it for the last 20 years anyway Ok so what we're talking about here is what's that word the key is in the adjective on each of these church wide community ministries so you need to have even if it's only a couple times a year some sort of community impact type of. Ministry event so do something where you have of get the whole church out to impact a community on a community cleanup or to or to go to 1st you would have to go in and maybe check with your civic leaders your police chief your mayor somebody who's in the community and say our church wants to do something to really impact me as are you know is there anything specific that you feel that we could do that could be of benefit to the community become acquainted with the community and then have something that you do as a church wide type of project at least once or twice a year and I want you to think too about your own life the church needs to be involved in every area but I believe every Some of the administrators to be involved in every area what I mean is. What are you doing to prepare the soil so this could mean that you're involved in health ministry and you're involved in the church's health ministry it could be be involved in the churches community ministry it could be that you have you know some personal preparation going on with individuals in your work or in your neighborhood that you are you know trying to do some good deeds to build confidence in what have you but you need to be doing things for the least of these I mean if we're not then we might be on the wrong side of Matthew 25 right member who Jesus said If you haven't done that for these then you haven't done it for me and the you end up being on the wrong side of the judgment Ok. But a trip on Under saying we can't just be unmindful in our own life of doing things for the blessing of others but then planting the seed needs to be something that happens as a church wide ministry as well I call it active literature and media ministries this is different from just having one day a year where you do a you know missionary book of the year Ok this we're talking about active so I believe that every church should have a prominent literature and media display that is free to visitors and members are encouraged to use to distribute to people in the community and that they should be encouraged every week to take from that literature to share during the week like it shouldn't be a once a year thing or whatever it should be something that is becomes part of the regular life of the church why do I think that Ok let me give you a couple reasons one element it says that in the end those who are converted to the truth will trace the majority of them will trace their 1st convictions back to the reading of our publications. She also says that we should be doing this as the leaves of autumn including even leaflets and the cheapest thing that we can do is go tracks and while you're at it bible study offer dot com tracks that you can be getting by the city interests so these are things that should become part of the life of the church and that's why in Michigan we instituted and think to some extent we still in every April we try to emphasize literature again around the conference so that people are thinking about it but in a local church setting this need to be buzzing that means you need somebody who's in charge Ok somebody an assistant person ministers leader somebody who's in charge of literature ministry who makes sure that there's plenty of stock of a wide range of free materials that they're being promoted from the front on a regular basis that Sabbath schools are being encouraged to have literature goals and expand realizing those that once a year maybe the church has an overall literature goal that there is literature promotion going on in a regular basis so I would have somebody specific in charge of that and make sure that there's active literature media ministries going on because planting doesn't just happen in a certain time of the year it should be happening all the time and church members should be getting this stuff out all the time then all the time there should be a vibrant Bible study ministry happening so Bible study ministry is something that we typically have as a correspondence school that maybe a few people know about there might be 2 or 3 members who get bible studies but this is why we started Bible study offer dot com in Michigan was to put it before all the members and have it be something that everybody thinks about because if even if you are not yet giving Bible studies you ought to be offering them. You ought to have tracks and things that you can leave when you leave your literature that offer Bible studies you might be somebody who will be willing to host a Bible study you can put a Bible Study author dot com sticker on your car Many your cars are naked and you new clothes you can find ways to be involved in Bible study ministry even if you are not yet the one giving the Bible study even though I would venture to say that every one of you could be giving a Bible study right now and you should be going to your Bible study coordinator in your local church and saying when you get an interest I would like to follow it up because everybody can be involved in this study ministry is something that doesn't happen in the corner if something is promoted in the church every guest who comes into our churches should be asked a question Have you heard about Obama's school right I mean this if this actually happened you know and this is what happens our churches this is my personal ministries leaders are so important in our churches we flame out all the time we just flame out we have a brief. Who everybody goes back to nothing and I'm telling you you need people who have a spark in them you need people who do not let things die you need people who are gal more used to say spin the wheel every time they go by it because things don't just stay spinning indefinitely if you want people to pass out literature you have to talk about it from the front if you want people to be giving Bible studies you have to remind them about what's happening you have to put in your calendar mailings of Bible study interest cards on a regular basis you have to make it part of the ongoing Ministry of the church this 4th area of the bedrock harvest activity every church should have regular public evangelism to gain decisions I just you know I know I pastor churches where they were like Well Pastor we do events them every other year and well. Ok let's not let's do it every year because I like to get interests because because we're about getting interest because interests are the only things that will equate to baptisms and baptisms the only things that will equate to disciples who make other disciples so I believe in regular no less than once a year public evangelism I mean if you want to take the 7th year to Jubal you know you want to take a 70 year off have at it but other than that we should have regular public meetings even if you feel like oh it didn't go great this year whatever tried again I mean this public evangelism will never do everything but it's not supposed to it's only one part of an over arching process and then we should have ongoing discipleship ministry and I'll tell you that the discipleship handbook that we 1st published here in Michigan and now we've published at the General Conference is a great way to start somebody during the 1st 6 months after their baptism getting integrated into the church and that should be an ongoing ministry that we always have but we are in the process of developing a Bible study hymn book that I would and that hopefully will be ready at g.c. 2020 and that book is going to be something that you can take 6 to 12 months to train members after they've gone through discipleship a handbook on how to be further grounded in the truth and learn how to give Bible studies to others so we need to have ongoing systematic ways of disciple and people after they are baptized these aside from your calendar these just need to be always happening you understand what I'm saying and so many churches are not they don't understand the rigor with which the aggressiveness of Vangelis stick activity that are pioneers started this movement with. Ellen White says we must look our work squarely in the face and move as fast as possible in aggressive warfare I mean think about that we must look our work squarely in the face what she said she's saying we we can't hide from it we can't pretend it's going to just happen on its own We've got to look at squarely in the face and we've got to move as fast as possible I mean that's incredible words and I think that is what we need in order to make that happen not just calendars that have intermittent events but ministries that have leaders in each one that are going to make sure they focus on keeping that burning and active and all those things happening if we just did that you know I think that our churches would experience some incredible growth. Just one major fundamental ministry in all 5 of those phases I would point out that if you go to this website. You can see this little description each one of the descriptions you can click on a p.d.f. and print out p.d.f. to use in your church and each of the phases prepare plant cultivate every one of them has a little description about like how to have a vibrant Bible study ministry and it gives 7 simple steps and some inspirational quotes and then I'll have all of that also in a p.d.f. that you can print out and use in your churches for turning Yes this area I'm sorry. Yeah so let me show you this too if you look on the screen you see graphics there logo creator so you could type in. Lansing. And hit create. And in a jiffy. And spending on the speed of your internet you have a girl Lansing logo and you can download zip. And it downloads can't get to right now but it downloads 5 graphic files of a ping file Ok so if you want the individual ones you can simply e-mail your person ministries and Sam school team because they have you know the other thing I was going to say as in this is also a banner that you can do without emailing anyone just straight from the website so if you do. Glance And and here's size. If you order from Hamblin that's their size you order from Vistaprint that's their sizes if you order somebody else you can put a custom size but this isn't one of those vertical pull up banners you know I'm talking like that but these are wide extra wide it's half that with their something $33.00 inches or something like that but. Again if you do this it will give you a way to download it and then you have the graphic file and then you can just e-mail Hamblin or upload to Vistaprint or whatever and you can order that vertical banner and it's customized for your church the whole idea of. Of the logo here from a general conference standpoint where it says grow and in brackets your church is that you will put your church there so it's you know grow Columbus Eastwood or grow whatever the name of your church is that we want to be something that becomes your strategy your plan your mission and it becomes a way to educate your members because it's not just I mean you're trying to educate and create a an atmosphere and philosophy of disciple making in your local church and so having visuals for people just helps with that. So yeah each of those Now there are also just on the website I can show you there are videos here that I pulled a couple people from Michigan over the general conference so we did that on the hope channel and we had them make us a little. So these are 5 minute training videos and there's a dozen of them here we have 27 more recorded on frequently asked questions and we just need to get them edited we haven't edited them yet but you can see on here download guide you can actually show these we encourage you to show these 5 minute videos we encourage during your mission program during saddest call. But show them and then in your bulletin you can put these training guides and they have a little fill in the blank that go along with the video you know I'm talking on like you can fill in the blank when you go along with it. Anyway so that's. That is for these 12 videos available and then the next 27 we're working on and then also just so you know. We're working on a series of materials you should be familiar with the discipleship am book you guys I don't know how many of you have seen some of them maybe not see the new one but this is the one that we developed through review and herald this is about to go to press this is fundamentals of faith the battle preparation guide and this is being written as we speak and we hope to have it done at the beginning of 2020 and then it won't be printed until probably in time for g.c. session these 2 we hope to have ready for the session but they're still up in the air a little bit but this is my 1st priority right now but anyway basically for each phase where we're saying we want you to have an active ministry in that phase we're developing resources to help the local church to have to know how to. Have an active ministry in that phase so that's the idea behind it and then there's other resources in this as well. You can find different stuff that we've had on in the personal issues Department you know Congress for a while. Ok Any questions for I'm on something. It has been out here in Michigan we revised it slightly. And one of the things we did was put an appendix with all of the official fundamental beliefs statement back there so that there was no question that we were not trying to write a new families for the church or something but it was very clear that we were just putting in a different order and simplifying certain things it's mostly for baptismal preparation bit can be used for general study too but it's been revised a little bit but there's an earlier version that we did here in Michigan that she's holding in her hand right there yeah. It is thin it's a saddle stitch book. Yeah because it's a back to the preparation but you wouldn't want to give somebody a book like this is Ok let's get prepared for baptism we'll be we'll set the date now for 2021. So that's the intention of this and you'll notice that the way we're doing it now is attaching it all to the grow model so that their color coded by the the phase that you're emphasizing if you didn't pick that up. And all of them will have on the back of the logo of the phase that is you know being emphasized so that's how that's set up and there will be others like if I'm reelected in 2020 then I have in my own plans to add another harvest book on a public evangelism handbook it would be like a thorough how to guide for doing public a man to listen and we also are probably going to have a book that accompanies the Bible study Him book that's more methodology whereas this is more doctrinal. But anyway you'll see are times. Yes. Well the only one that's available right now is a discipleship am book we just are giving you an idea of the groceries but you can write from here you go to buy now and it will take you to the a.b.c. website basically But there but this particular book is actually in stock over here at the a.b.c. right now. You can order it right through there. And by the way this is. If you buy in quantity the price goes down so if you want your church to buy him for the church ministry be cheaper. And I come back to this oh yeah 15 minutes. So the back of this is a calendar and notice this is a back to the master plan I wanted to kind of walk you through this ministry idea but now I want to show you that when you put together your calendar when you're putting together a plan Notice it says Date or frequency so that's where you put either the date of an event or you would put monthly weekly whatever whatever it's referring to. Then primary evangelism phase so what that says is Ok if you're putting a list of events and you put down Cooking School Health Expo. You know concert. Vacation Bible School and you're like around I'm really filling out my calendar and then you go and put primary evangelism phase you're going to go cooking school prepare the soil concert prepare the soil Health Expo prepare the soil B.B.'s prepare the soil and you're going to say well. Maybe we need to make sure that we're covering every phase of the evangelistic process and we are not doing only one or 2 phases you understand so this is a critical part of your planning to make sure that you are not. Not having bottlenecks in your growth process because you need an active Bible study let me tell you what most people have they have a bunch of preparing the soil they might have an evangelistic meeting and those are the key key events most churches are strong in those areas because those are corporate events and our churches are weaker in personal ministry so ministries like Bible study ministry were weaker because that involves individuals personally ministering to people by absent for a week or in the literature planting because that involves people getting out and being active in personally distributing them so those and then in mentoring you know preserving mentoring is more of a personal thing so we tend to those tend to be weaker in our churches and the things that we can do together in a big corporate events are stronger and so you've got to fight against that and make sure that you have active ministries in those key you know message sharing parts of the of the of the process and I've got to say really the heart of evangelism is sharing the gospel but most of our members prefer to prepare the way for the Gospel. And there's nothing wrong we need to prepare the way for the Gospel we need those ministries but unless we get serious about you know getting out of our comfort zone and finding ways to share the message will not see growth because the power is in the word the power is in the message that's what converts souls 1st Peter 123 right we're born again through the Word of God That's how people are converted to the truth you can love someone into the church but eventually they'll leave if that's what it's based on because your love will. You know flame and flicker but if you want them to stay then the power of the truth has to grip them you're saying what I'm saying I mean be accompanied by. All of the aspects of the method of Christ you know in which he sympathize with people shows that he desires they're good at cetera there's no question about that but the staying power is always the truth that's the staying power in the church is why I make that emphasis when it comes to retention we always want to focus on. You know when we talk about retention we want to focus on retention you know like hand-holding and making atmosphere you know non-offensive for them and all that look we need to make them able to handle offense not just make us of make never possible be offended say I remember I was flying out to do a discipleship thing over an age of somewhere when I 1st got to d.c. and I was in Taiwan I was on a plane and I was thinking to myself it was a retention conference and I thought what is the church done to retain me and I couldn't really come up with much money. To be honest I'm Ok with that because I'm not going anywhere. The reason is because I've been involved with my faith I've been sharing my faith I've had to grapple with people's questions about the church and Alawite and I had to study it out and then I found it it's even more true than I thought in the beginning and as that has happened it has strengthened me but see that's that is the heart of attention is the sharing of faith and growing in the truth and we've got to make that more the focus than just making the loving atmosphere the loving atmosphere should be focused on too but the message is what keeps people and when it comes to evangelism this is the core part that always seems to be the weakest we do so much on the preparing the soil but we do so little in our along our members in actually sharing the truth we've got to get to truth to power isn't the truth that's why we're focusing on the bob city hymn book because it's so so needed but anyway that's what this primary dance and phase does and helps you to see where how balanced you are in your evangelists and planning and then your activity or event doesn't have to be just an event it could be a ministry like your Bible study ministry or whatever it might be that doesn't have a date per se but it's an ongoing type of ministry and then you you know as a church need to evaluate the strengths and. Continual operation of that make sure it remains active Ok Thank you everyone let's pray together I really appreciate you staying but Father in heaven thank you for this time we've had to talk about evangelists extract a g. Lord change our hearts and minds to help us each one to see ourselves not just as members but as disciples and not just as disciples but those who because of that are always thinking of how to make disciple makers please help our churches and us Lord to embrace this calling and to move from the plan of addition to the plan of multiplication and the work might be finished through the outpouring of the Spirit of God Thank You in prayer in Jesus in this media was brought to you by audio 1st a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse if you would like to listen to more sermons lead to visit w w w audio verse or.

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