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Introduction to Backyard Beekeeping Part 2

Michael Kevin Johnson


These presentation will help you become familiar with a valuable natural farming resource known as the Honey Bee. Learn how to get started, what to expect, and how to help our friends, and bees! 


  • January 15, 2020
    2:45 PM
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So we're going to go into the parable of the beekeeper. And what we do so where do we start Ok the very 1st thing that I'm going to tell you as a beekeeper to a beekeeper. Is to join a local b. club in all honesty you're going to find the most information from the people that are keeping bees right around you and most of them are going to be involved in a club then you end up actually getting a mentor out of it somebody that you can say hey this is going on in my hive How do I deal with this what do I need to do how can I solve this they're going to go oh I've experienced that and this is how I fix that you're not going to get that from me standing up here from Florida if you're in Canada you know I can tell you what I would do in your situation but I don't know if it's going to work the guy down the street is likely going to be the one that's going to know what's going to work for you. This is my wife. And this is one of our hives one of the 1st hives that we brought up to our property in it's not in the best of locations that's not where our bees are kept any longer when I 1st put them out my initial thought was is so I have this hole in the woods so I'm going to put this take and put all my bees in this hole in the woods so that nobody sees them bees want to be out in the wide open your best place for them is in an open field day the shade can create all sorts of havoc on your hives. To be suit which for me now this is might be suit. I go out. Basically dressed like this and I put my jacket on and then my hood over to the top and that's what I do I will say that if you're going to buy a beehive and you want to get if you want to buy a b. suit you want to get involved in b.s. My personal suggestion. From experience many things is you see how this hat that she's wearing has a remote all the way around. I would recommend having. That does that for the reason of the likelihood is very small that you're going to get stoned. With see it it is down here because this isn't this isn't it's the best example but it was zip on to your shirt and it will keep the bees from coming close to your ears to back your neck stuff like that and so my recommendation would be to get the style that does have. The rim and I would also now strongly recommend what's called a ventilated suit which I believe they sell there they're not cheap but I can tell you compared to this on a summer day. After you get through it when you've got 15 hives that you're going through or even to hives after you get through the 1st one it's pretty hot it's pretty hot I mean I'm sweating just being here right now and you know this is that general start up kit right here for example you've got your smoker. This is a feeder not the best type of feeder for you because if you put it right in the entrance you can end up having what's called robbing happening where the bees will literally come into that hive eat and fly away that's not an ideal situation but they do work the queen excluder you've got you know your tools your smoke your smoker your 3 boxes this is a cut this is basically the taller box like this one over here they classify that as a deep the next one down which is actually this height. So this is a deep. This one is a me and considered a medium and then they actually have one that's only that tall so which would come in handy if you were doing the remove walls out of somebody's house but I don't think you want to go there. But that's it and there's kits like this in the in the magazine that I passed out while we're waiting again this is a this is a suit with the cover this one is a ventilated suit and if you look close Well you might not I know if you can tell it from there but it's almost like a plastic mesh material I don't know how it's going to wash up yet because I finally bought one for myself. That I got a few weeks ago and I haven't even taken it out of the package yet. I'm still using this one right now but I'm kind of looking forward to using it this is kind of a can you see better the material here now Ok you can see how much air that will let through it's like almost like the difference probably of wearing shorts versus a pair of jeans when it's $100.00 degrees outside you know that's what I'm expecting anyway. The best fuel for your smoker is actually pine needles just about everybody in the industry you know they sell these pellets you buy 5 pound bags of pellets and stuff very few people I know you use pellets and I can tell you getting the pellets to light and stay lit and smoke there unless you spend a lot of money buying real expensive pellets you're going to frustrate yourself pine needles tends to work really really really well. So the next question people would have is what type of hive is the best Ok Should I go with this that the other here's a cup these is only 2 different hives this is the flow hive this is actually what's called a top bar how I've now that top bar how I visited all my property it's all painted up it's you know made to look pretty and just for fun because I had we with I'm a member of the Volusia County beekeepers and we have a show that we do every year and I took the top bar hive out there this high for example is 42 inches long from here to here and then it has the lid on it. And instead of it having frames like this it just has a single strip of wood with a single strip of plastic as a guide and that's it everything else the bees do and it looks like this inside actually this is the hive Now that's what it looks like paint and that's before I painted it but you can see it's got all of these pieces on it in the very back piece here is actually kind of a solid board the reason they do it that way is let's say you have a small hive and you only need 4 or 5 of these so what you would do is you would move that board right all the way up here so that there's only 4 or 5 frames that those bees need to protect. Once they fish start filling that out then you add another one in and you add another one in and you just keep moving that board all the way back until they fill that entire box that is a real popular good way to do it because if you were to take and have this box right here filled with these and you put another box on top of it then they'd be able to defend it but if there was only half full and you had too high then you'd have a problem yes. Ok. Ok so I'll tell you what why don't we pause right here for a 2nd while he's there doing that and if you want we'll talk about it some of the stuff and I'll show you some of the stuff while the when the lights go out the fans go off unfortunately so that way we don't we won't fall behind. I think it should be Ok because that Mike it's on Pat and they're the projector would be. That all yeah probably. So I'll show you a few things that I've got here. And actually Hi You know what I'm going to do while this is while this is happening I'm going to because there's 2 pictures that I put on my flash drive or on my computer that I built into this program that I kind of like you to see intentionally So what I'm going to do I'm going to go ahead and hook this in here and I might recap it while this is happening if I can. See me just a 2nd. Let me get this copied over started copying over and then. That I'll show you some of the stuff here. So yeah we're definitely experiencing computer 101 today. Now how many people in here have already been keeping bees. Anybody got a couple. Tried it last year and I'm guessing that you felt that it didn't wasn't working too well or. That can happen. That can happen unfortunately carpenter answer can be really bad on it. So. And use you how many how many highs do you have. 35 why are you up here instead of why are you appear instead of me. Ok. Ok. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah I'll tell you. Just recently and I'll talk about a little bit but just recently people were starting to realize that a lot of the chemicals that we're using because you look at the b. decline 1st as when we started using various chemicals in this world. And there was was that you somebody over here had their hand up to that they had high hopes how many of you have. Not now. 7 Ok. All right let me see while they are done because this is now. Oh really. And I'll tell you I can let me let me throw this in here while I'm thinking about it. Let me go to I'm going to shut this down I'm going to pull this out I'm going to go ahead and try to reload. My presentation on here so remember we're at the top bar hive. But. My old timers Alzheimer's or whatever I want to call it is kicking in my old age. I was starting to say something and it lost me. As I was going to I said I was going to throw something in here right now I'm thinking about it. See what happens. No no but that did spark it thank you. One of the things one of the things that tends to happen people are finally starting to realize that. Some of the issues that we're having with hives people have been starting to say Oh well I guess I can understand now why it's happening and I've been saying for a few years now that I think a lot of it has to do with chemicals that we're using and without a doubt. There's a lot of chemicals that we're using that you know they. They are. This colony collapse disorder there's been so many things that people have been using that literally are just killing things off and we're not even realizing it. And just by my own hives in a matter of days dying. So quickly so easily I was pretty convinced then and now I'm finding that a lot of these old time beekeepers or high up the keeping people that have been doing it for years longer than I have and have far more influence than I would ever have before starting to say the same thing and one of them just recently put out a video about it and I made the comment to him I said oh sounds like you were talking to me. Because he's a friend of mine that lives down the road but he's on the national. The association Your be Federation or something like that to take all it. So he has far more influence than I ever would. Ok I think. It's basically just talking about how what we've been doing to the bees is basically causing a lot of the trouble that we're having with bees. At sea Ok. I lost that presentation I didn't lose the presentation I just lost the preview I had but I can at least see what we've got going here so I'm going to get us to the right frame. You must be an Apple guy. Because then we are actually well when we plug it back and it'll probably kick in right. I do not sell hives I have people that I can refer people to but of course this is this is Florida in my area I'd say go to just see them. He came he's actually a guy that I get or hives from. And. There are 1st the 1st hives I don't have to get them from them anymore at least not at this point unless I wanted to have a whole bunch more hives than what I really need but. He will sell you what's called a knock box my suggestion to anybody starting in bees is instead of going out to try to catch a feral colony it specially once you get self of let's say Georgia if you're talking Georgia. And then south you could Ok that's alright it we've got it so once we have the power we're going to be in the right place. There's too much risk I feel for a person to have to deal with what would be considered Africanized bees you don't want to deal with Africanized bees they they will tear you up there's no doubt. I don't think it's as bad as people say but no who wants to get stung I mean you know is anybody going oh please sting me no you know there's it's kind of like with me and needles I will do just about anything to avoid a needle I actually at one point my life had a. Root canal done without novacaine because the needles. I just don't like needles but yet I've gotten stung so many times you would think it wouldn't bother me so much anymore but I still don't like needles like I say you know so your best bet of a bee sting in the box is going to come from having a split from an existing colony that's been kept in a box because when you have a feral hive out in a tree somewhere in a person's house or especially well some of the pictures if we get to there are some of the pictures where they're in a water meter. Things like that once you're talking about maybe well probably about this far down the likelihood of it being an Africa Africanized hive is far greater than 6 feet above and once you get over 10 foot then you pretty much know what's not but keeping them in a box might not work and I will tell you that going out as a person that I have collected tons of feral colonies keeping them in the box afterwards can be a challenge and if you start with some that were raised that way they're not going to be as likely to take off on you. And you know if you're going to invest in all this stuff you may as well invest in it knowing that you're going to have something that's going to stay. That said minus the box a new book which is basically like this bottom box here it's not the box itself but the 5 frames of bees some of it's going to be there's usually one or 2 of honey there's usually 3 of brood you're going to spend depending on where you buy it from anywhere from 152175 ish dollars usually but it's going to be an investment that's going to help you down the line and that's going to be a set that you know if you buy it from somebody reputable You know you're going to be able to take that when it fills out 20 frames you can split it and take 5 frames out of this box put 5 empty frames back in that box and you can have a 2nd hive and that's a way to build up your colonies Yeah. You don't need the queen you know well. There's Yeah yeah it's kind of like and I was going bring this up but we'll talk about it now while we're waiting the queen is technically in a sense the most important be in the colony but it's not is if there's no prude if there's no eggs but if you have eggs or larva that are up to I think it's 3 days old they will make a queen so for example this top frame or I don't know how many of you guys might have been here when I was when I got here but I said this top frame I put in here for a reason I put this one up here to show you what you have to have for a for a new colony to be created Ok in this there's eggs I can't remember if it's this side of this side the cap stuff that's they're not going to make a queen out of that it's already capped that means it's already at about. 20 something days so that's that's just going to be a worker bee but if you look right here you see these cells that are larger You guys can come on up while we're If you want and look around and stuff but those cells that are larger those are the drones that's a bigger be it's not as Biggest a queen but it's a bigger be bigger it's probably is bigger around but it's you know the length of the worker but the eggs they can make a queen out of or a worker out of and it's a matter of what they feed it as to what it will become so your most important thing in the hive is probably more the egg or the larva than it is the queen. So. You know so yes the queen is extremely important you're going to have one in there. Your drone once they're done with their purpose they're gone and you know once they if they have a queen in here that's a good queen and this season the spring time has passed a lot of those are going to get killed. And they'll just take them off and they're gone you know they won't let em back in so on and so on and so on. Because the drones all they're going to do is eat honey it's it's not unusual to see as few as 0 but as many as 4 or 5 drones in a hive when you start getting a lot more than that that's when I start looking even closer because when you start getting to like 20 then you go Ok do I have a laying worker in here in the Queen's dead and I didn't catch it and the easiest way to know that is if you've got multiple eggs in a single cell because a queen is going to lay one egg in the middle of the cell and worker when it starts laying they'll be eggs like all over they might not always be all the way to the bottom of the cell and then everything that comes up is going to be a drone and then you're going to end up having a high of just by default that's going to die off because there's nobody doing any work. You don't want you do not want to work or laying eggs correct because it's been in for a way every time and when that happens it can be a difficult thing to recover from because laying worker is a situation that. When you go to put a new queen in there they'll start to kill or. One thing that you know I'll show you this this is actually what's called a Queen cage. So if you were today if you had a hive or if you were let's say you set up a hive and you ordered a box of bees rather than getting a new box no box is honestly going to be the easiest way to go and the best way to start that's that's going to be 5 frames like this. That are already there are already going they have everything here you've got some that are honey some that are you know some that are just not as full as others. That's going to be your easiest thing to start with but let's say you decide Ok I want to buy I want to have a top bar hive Ok like the picture we were just showing you're not going to get this or not box as a top bar the only way you're going to go into a top bar is buying a box of packaged these and they literally ship them in the mail and then you go to the post office and pick them up because the workers don't want to touch the box. And you bring them home and you turn them loose inside of the inside of the top bar hive and it's like 3 pounds obese and then the queen in a box like this by the time you get those they're going to be acclimated to her if you have if I had a queen that needed to be replaced if your hives becoming very aggressive when you work on them you're going to probably want to be really thinking about replacing your queen unless you want the extra productivity that you sometimes get from that but are willing to tolerate how they might act out you sometimes it's kind of a balance act but let's say you need a new queen the queen is in here she's got a screen across that protects her she's usually got a few workers this is depending on the type a b. you buy or could type a queen you buy you're going to be spending anywhere from $20.00 up to about $7080.00 for the a single Queen normal is around $35.00. You know you would basically put this there's a piece of candy on the end if you might want to take like a drill or toothpick not with power but just with your fingers just put a little bit of a hole in that just be careful make sure the queen is over here when you put a hole in that that will make it so that it'll be easier for them to let her loose they'll chew the candy away you literally just put that in here like this between 2 frames sandwich it in something like that and they will after they decide that they're going to accept her they'll chew away the candy and let her loose if they're sitting there you're when you when she gets 1st in there if if it's Elaine worker scenario if you're dealing with a hive like this I would suggest getting a knock a 2nd knock maybe putting some paper between the 2 sections and putting it on top and waiting until they all locks I mean to each other. Reason being. They could turn around and go right after the queen and killer and then you've lost your queen so sometimes I have seen them where there's trying to sting her initial But then by the next day they've accepted her so it's it's kind of a balancing act and if you talk to a beekeeper and then another beekeeper and another beekeeper Let's say you talk to 5 ohm you're going to get 7 different suggestions. That's just the way it is and it's some of it will be based on the time ear what's going on in your hive what you're dealing with you know what's in the area there are so many factors in the easiest as to bounce it off of somebody that's literally in your local area. One of the things we still look like they're still all over there one of the things that. I said I have set up for anybody that's interested is because of this conference I set up a thing called Sta beekeepers on Facebook. So if you I'm the administrator of it at the moment but if you send a notification that you want to join it just says that let me know what church you belong to and there was one other question I don't remember what it is just to make sure that we're not getting a whole bunch of baloney and there are people trying to attack the 7000 is torch and so on and so forth. But anyway that's something I set up so that we can communicate. And my card is up here too so that we can have information that can go back and forth and around. That will work my suggestion on that would be like I did with the one that was way up in the air I would personally myself cut off the branch and I would put that whole thing in such a way that I can get it away and deal with it because you don't want to leave all of that behind because a couple things are going to happen you're going to have pass that are going to go after you're going to have other bees that are going to go after it and they're going to keep coming back. Even just leaving when I when I do or remove oil out of a tree I strongly suggest to the homeowner if they don't want to if it branches too big or if it's in the middle of a trunk or something like that seal it off because they're going to go back any bees are going to come back for years because the Queen's been there so if the Queen's been there before her scent is left on that branch and in that home and they're going to just keep coming back and there was somebody good. Yes the flow hive The only difference is actually in the top part and in this if we get there I do have a video clip that shows how it works. There's really no difference between a flow hive and a traditional Lange straw hive it's the same box the same thing the same size the same everything the only difference is in the top chambers instead of it being a honey that you need to scrape in and extract it has a chamber that you can stick a rod down and split and it will go like this and it will allow the honey to flow down to the bottom and out the back in a tube that's really the difference. It saves it doesn't it's not a quick process but it's also you don't have to like on the cover of the magazine. You'll see this this is an extractor. Will cover some of this stuff maybe now in that way when we have power if we get to those slides will just scroll through a mold a quicker but this is an extractor if you stick the honeycomb in these things depending on the type. You would. Let me get the right frame here I think it's on the end. You would scrape all this wax capping off. And when you take all this wax capping off of both sides depending on the type that you have you either put it in with the middle of it being here you would put it in like this or like this depending on the type that you've got and then it spins it around really fast so all the honey flies out and hits the sidewalls runs down the side walls across the bottom and altitude in the bottom the whole time it's doing that you're actually oxidizing the honey so by the time you get it out you will have foam that you're dealing with not just a little bit we're talking foam and it's because of all the oxidizing that's going on all the way through. So you'll actually notice if you come by the booth and you want to buy some honey I have some honey from a friend of mine right over down here in Brantford that is across the road from a nursery so it's got a very interesting flavor to it and I think it's because of his perceptions but I could be wrong but. It still has some foam on top of it he spun it Friday and put it in a 5 gallon bucket and I bottled it up. Monday and it still has foam on it the foam is just it's just air bubbles around honey so it's going to pop and it's basically honey but it just doesn't look as good and it's kind of like one of those things where you scrape it off and you do this and you do that but you still have foam in it because of all the extra bubbling that happens. Another route that you can do is you can scrape this off top from both sides you can actually turn your home comb upside down and let it drip out into a container and this is probably the bulk of what I do I personally do with this type of a frame myself I actually do not own an extractor I have enough hives that people would be like why in the world don't you have one of those and I just don't want to do my honey that way myself and so you you can actually turn it upside down it will take a few days to get it all pretty much out but it will go use don't want to warm it that's the main thing. I use Yeah I use a tub similar similar to what I've got over there I've been working on designing something but I just haven't made it yet because I just don't have the equipment to make that stuff yet but I've already got it how I want to do it. Where I can literally just line em up. And let it drip out but yeah. I know the flow hive and I'll show you it running if we can if not I can show you show it to you the power doesn't resolve itself oh are they Ok. But yeah the flow hive eliminates the need for the extractor and it eliminates the need for you know this other type of method but don't get me wrong a lot of people have given flow have a bad rap and a lot of it is because that makes you think people are going to be lazy I can tell you you have to do the same stuff with a flow high that you have to do with any other hive The only difference is how you extract it and extracting it for the person is going to have one or 2 hives and that's all they ever want. It works fantastic I can tell you that and I can tell you I have gotten. My 1st year entering into a honey show I entered 2 days after I harvested my honey it's like unheard of because I mean you're old you know how many air bubbles you expect to have in that stuff right and it wasn't because of air bubbles I was in 1st place and there were 2 other people entered into the competition and they were trying to decide which one it would end up being so they had to find an imperfection in one versus another to decide who was going to have the best in show and who was going to 1st place. One of the people that were helping in the show that year. Took the bottles. And there you had to have 31 pound bottles and they said oh here and all of the honey went up and touch the lid you know allowed to have any honey on the lid. So that year I went from 1st place. The 3rd. But the guy that was helping the judge that got 1st place and best of show was like I had there was no competition you had that he said he said your honey he says when I looked at it it was so clean and so clear there was no way that I would have one and it was only because that had happened the next year I got 2nd because I missed a piece of dust on one jar. So this last year I was super super careful but I also gave it about 3 weeks to settle before taking it in and I ended up with Best of Show. Best in class and black to our 1st place which black jar with a l. is purely all by taste. But it was actually a Welsh honey judge that was judging these these 3 events and you know I'm like Ok so at least I know I can do it but it was with honey that I was doing either with the flow hive that 1st year or by and the 2nd year or by doing just this where I scraped it and let it drip so yeah. Yes Yes because I'm going to turn the hive upside down but I will not do it if it's not completely kept I just won't even consider doing it yeah. Uh huh. You actually there's people that have been having problems getting their bees to start in them. Over the last few years that's been a common thing but I found when I'm using them they're using them and they're filling in the Right now it takes a little bit longer for them to get started in it but once they start in it it's I mean they fill mine filled up mine the 1st year I had bees mind filled up mine and I harvested. That I went back and had to harvest them again 2 weeks later and had to harvest them again 2 weeks after that the 1st year here and that's unusual but it also was. Hundreds and thousands of acres of peanuts around me to. So yeah. Some of it would be based on your climate. Up north there is bees that are better suited for colder climates. There's a Russian b.. That's supposed to be really good for cold climates down here we often go with an Italian b. that tends to be a more consistent laying be so just as you go along it's just going to constantly be going and producing. I know that's Ok. That's fine I'm wondering if we should go ahead and take a let everybody go outside for a little bit and I don't know if I'd say it's cool we're out there or not it might be Ok so why don't we go ahead and and go out and cool off if we need to for a little bit. Yes an RB club we have a the youngest member is 8 years old and he's been a member for one or 2 years. So yeah. Yeah. No no he has he has like he does not boxes so that it's easier for him to move but yeah his he has his mom help him sometimes with some of they have a couple of large arrives but yeah I mean they can do it and you know you'll see they at the dent this company they even have little teeny tiny piece suits you know I've never bought one but. I haven't had a need to I don't have any little grandkids so yes. Yes yes and no Usually the spring. Depending on your climate sometimes in the fall as well like here we usually early in the spring maybe about another month and then again probably around October isn't a pretty normal occurrence for here. Either way it won't as long as you leave egg behind in and you have eggs in both hives you'll be fine and what will happen is you know yes these bees will naturally say oh this is my hive I'm going to go in here and you'll have foragers that are out Ok those forgers are going to come back and they're going to likely go into whatever hive is still sitting where it was because it will still have that Queen scent in both hives so you might have some that may go into the wrong one but they all balance will end up balancing out and you'll end up with the 2 hives and they'll make a new queen or you could get a new queen but leave it for probably 24 ish hours before putting a queen in it new queen in it if you're going to do that. So that they can be used to the fact and go oh we don't have a queen need we need to make one before you put one in. Correct correct and what I'll usually do like sometimes you'll find a swarm cell down at the bottom and if it's that if you're seeing a swarm cell that's telling you they're getting ready to split on their own so I cut out that swarm cell and I'll usually just kind of like take my lighter and heat far enough away from it that it won't cook or anything and I'll get it hot and melt it onto the top. Because if I were to melt it. And attach it up here. Then there think it's a superseding queen instead of a swarming queen a swarming queen will build down here a super seedings queen will build up here or in the middle so if I attach it up here then that's going to go oh we're making a queen I mean it's just kind of little tricks that you that you do in work with the way they are it's they're incredible little creatures they really are you know. And it isn't just you know honey is not be poop people do call it that it is be spit technically it's not even that but. Technically that's what it you know they pass it back and forth and that's how they thin it out before they put it into the cells and then they use their wings basically and just dry it out to rust away so you know. In the book there wasn't measurements Ok if you go online and look up the term for b boxes you'll find it because there's a lot yeah there's a lot of people that make their own yeah so far I haven't bothered to make my own. But this is the way I usually get them and this is why the you know you can buy them pretty easily. When I get them this is how they come. And you know and truthfully you can also buy them with all the frames on Amazon or Tractor Supply for about the same prices it's going to take you to buy a home like this put in to gather and. And buys a the frames the frames are about $3.60 apiece and this is about this one is the commercial one so it's only about $17.00. You know and you kind of go Well you know is it worth it for $17.00 to make it or just buy it like this and I kind of go on and. So so far I just haven't bothered to take the time to make any. Because I figured you know I can get on like that the ones that you buy from Amazon and Tractor Supply often you can get them with a primer coat already on it. You don't want to paint the inside only the outside you know you want to leave the inside natural wood. My 1st actual flow high that I put together I made the mistake of. Boiling the inside and the outside and they forgave me and they built anyway. But you probably want to avoid real dark colors just because it all heated up. You know I mean granted if you're in Alaska. You know hey you might want to go with a little bit darker color than you do down here I have a couple b. boxes that my daughters painted wear and she used like. A dark pink almost reddish and purple and I'm like oh no I can't put out a number out in the middle of the feel old why do you use those colors but I thought you know what I know I can resolve this because they painted all the way around so I just took and spun it around and put it where that side was next to another hive the same height so. Then she sees her color out there. Yeah. No no I mean it is it is quite a bit of work and there's some people to do the the actual butterfly joints and but yeah. Yes. It's. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah so you kind of have to balance balance it all out I mean you can and you can buy an entire hive kit for as little was like $200.00 It's got everything in it you need. And you can't make it for that and then you spend about another $150.00 on the bees so in the range of $350.00 you could get started with a standard hive and that's not bad now the flow of system you're looking at probably just right around 7. But. You know yeah yeah so I mean it's. Yeah. So you know that there's areas Geez kind of have to balance it out as you know but definitely if you're going to get into it go with the hive that's an existing and gets to get started after you've been doing it a while then maybe think about oh this person has these Let me see if I can help them but you don't want to make that your main hives. So. Yes it's you still have to inspect it you still have to pick the combs up the still have to check to make sure those diseases. You know. It's all the same work. You know. One of the concepts everybody had and I actually did a program about that type of the flow hives at my home for the bee Society years ago or not years ago but last year and. People had a lot of misunderstandings in assumptions about this stuff and then they realized when it actually came down to it what it involved in they're like oh well this makes sense now because all they went by was what they heard from everyone else no one had ever touched one of them and here I had 3 of them sitting right there in front of them for them to look at to look at the competitor version that was so much heavier to look at this look at that and I could show them the benefits of one versus the other and then they were like oh this makes a lot more sense now and I it's not that a particular thing is not something that's going to take over commercial beekeeping I don't see that happening I see it just heard like a person that might want to add a hive or 2 and don't want to invest in a bunch of other stuff with it but even that. Dollar for dollar you can go with a standard hive Yeah. Well out of 2 hives alone. 3 years ago I had probably. Somewhere around 7 or 8 gallons. Roughly. Yeah in that year but those were the bees that went and forged in the guys field and killed in 5 days so they were gone yeah. Uh huh. It's it's on the backside of the hive. You know all of the bees are all in the front and this is sealed off and you're in you're working in the back and they actually don't know what's happening until it's happened. It's. It might be the 20 minutes a frame roughly to empty it out and you can do more than one at a time. But again my personal opinion is I will never take more than 50 percent regardless that's just that's just the way I do it because I figure there has to be a line where you go because I'm doing this more for my bees to be able to pollinate and take care of my orchard then I'm doing it to get honey I just look at it and say Ok occasionally I'm going to get some honey as a benefit. You can you can drain out the whole frame you can drain out a small portion a whole center. But. If I usually if I do 6 frames if I have 6 frames and we're in flow season I might harvest 3. And leave the other 3 but if we've got you know 6 frames and we're going into winter then maybe I'll harvest one. But I will never do more than 50 percent and a lot of it will depend on what the situation in the scenario is currently Ok so we've got that. Part in. Yes because their competitor which was called tapped home. I was showing the people that came over is the difference in the weight of these things the tap comb system is built rugged and wall separate is easy as a flow $500.00 but it is probably 3 times the weight just for the unit itself so when you fill that with honey and you go to move that to go check your your brood box you're talking a 2 man job. Just because they're using a plastic wood you know I have a that is and they're using a lot of metal in there as well like stainless steel plating and stuff like that which is good because it keeps it together but bad because it makes it much much heavier. This media was brought to you by audio from a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse if you would like to listen to more sermon please visit w w w dot audio for.


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