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Discouraging Thorns and Thistles

John Dysinger

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Keeping weeds from taking over your garden is really simple. If you use the strategies we will talk about in this class, you will find the work easier, more enjoyable, and much more efficient. It’s all about the right tools and techniques, and most importantly, timing!

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John Dysinger

Bountiful Blessings Farm

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  • January 17, 2020
    10:45 AM
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Dear Heavenly Father we thank you for this day we think you for the things we're learning we thank you for the things you're teaching us and. That you want to work with us in the garden and Lord as we talk about weeds we know that there's so many lessons to learn there I pray that as I try to teach practical things that you will be teaching spiritual things that we will take the the practical lessons of eradicating we in apply them to our characters these things we pray in Jesus name Amen and. Ok I knew this was going to be a popular class because it's something that's a universal right everybody has to deal with weeds and so I have I think I've got 15. Strategies here that if you read the description I said it's really simple. But I didn't say easy right you understand the difference between simple and easy I know exactly how to keep weeds out of my garden does that mean my garden is always weed free. Unfortunately not that's our goal but we're not there yet so simple does not mean easy and the other key word there is timely you know and that's the challenge with market gardening because you may know I need to be doing something but there's some other things that are pressing and ahead of that So anyway. Because this is a home gardening tract I've tried to I've tried to organize these according to the what I would say should be your priority I've tried to prioritize them for the home gardener. So have you have you ever had a garden that looks like this. You don't have to raise your hand. But. Yeah it's like you go out there and you plant your seeds and you come back 2 weeks later and I know they're in there somewhere I know I planted care it's where are they. And that's very discouraging right and so it's this vicious cycle do you want to spend time out there is that life giving now I mean that just makes you want to go back inside right and say I can face it so we don't want this so how do we keep from that I wanted to share this one quote with you he who tills the soil is to make his work an object lesson of the careful thorough work which must be done in the culture of the soil of the heart. That's reviewing Harold June 27th so I ask you does your is your garden and object lesson of the work that you want God doing on your heart. And do you see how our gardens can become this incredible living parable to share with our neighbors you know when they come over and they say wow. I don't see any we. How did you do this and you can see share spiritual principles here chill truth so it's really it's not just life giving to yourself it can be life giving to others. So let's get started on these and this is this is a new one I if any was anyone was in Portland Or if you listen to the weed seminar on audio verse there is a lot of similarities but I did I did add a few new ones and there was one that I was thinking of this morning I should add. And now it's slipped my mind so if I think of it I will I will I will share it but anyway focus on soil health and tilth or the structure of the soil and you're saying wait a minute this is a weeding class not a. Not a soil class but this is just coming home to me more and more if your soil is in good I like the word tilt but it's not a common word you know if it's that crumbly dark I mean everybody knows what beautiful soil looks like if your soil is like that weeding becomes so much easier. It really really does and so you want to remove all rocks and perennial weeds you know whatever that takes you're out there with you're digging for digging out the dandelions digging up the dock or whatever you have out there the Johnson grass your You're doing the hard work up front you know any rocks I would say bigger than a quarter I mean ideally you even get those rocks out but depending on where you're from some soils have a lot of rocks and those are going to confound you in everything you do in the garden so you want to get them out. And that sounds easy right but every year it seems like the frost brings up more. I don't know how that works but it seems to work increase organic matter levels again it's getting that soil in good shape make sure soil chemistry is balance because if any of you were here on Tuesday or you probably you heard it in Allen's class yesterday getting the chemistry right in the soil will actually loosen it up if you have a hard clay soil. The reason it's hard is because the chemistry is wrong and then you want to keep it loose with a broad fork. We we don't grow in rows we grow and beds and there's a number of reasons for that but one reason I'll just mention here. Is that if you grow in beds you're not compacting you don't walk in your beds you walk in your aisles and so your soil stays looser and it makes it makes cultivating so much easier. Ok so that's number one. These practices should be your 1st line of defense against weeds and the beauty is if you keep that soil loose it helps with everything else as well the roots of the plants are going to go down better they're going to have healthier plants so it's really as as many have said before soil is the key you've got to get your soil right what is the. What is the soil in our spiritual lives the heart it's all a matter of the heart right Ok here's another one that's super easy but you just have to plan ahead you stale seabeds So you know most people when they guard they go out you know the guards been sitting fowl all winter with all those. Weed seeds from last year just lying there waiting to spring to life again that they go out there some day you know some warm day in the spring and they get the road kill around and they tell it all up and they seed it and then they get that 1st picture I showed you you know after a couple weeks of this huge mess. Well so do your soil working 2 weeks ahead of time or even further if you can and I don't encourage telling but you know if you do I'm not going to judge you for it. You when I say tilling I mean road till and Ok but just do whatever you do for soil preparation ahead of time and then act like you've planted your garden but you really haven't you know so in other words water it when it's dry and you just let all the weeds germinate. And you deal with them before you ever plant your your crop you're trying to get Does that make sense so there's a couple ways you can do with that do that you know probably the easiest thing will be talking about the colinear hoe here in a minute but just take a very you know a small bladed hoe and just tickle the surface of that soil you're not wanting to dig deeply because you're just going to bring up more weed seeds you're trying to deal with those weeds in the very top couple inches of the soil because those are the only ones that are going to Germany. So if you just kind of stir the soil and so the key is you've got to get the weeds when almost before you actually can see them. You know once they get this big you've lost the war almost I mean anything is possible. Ok So ideally you would do that a couple times let the weeds germinate come up deal with the watered again let the weeds come up deal with them and you will get rid of I say at least 80 percent of all your weed problems before you ever plant your seeds. Simple. But how many of us are on top of it enough to plan 2 weeks ahead. That's the challenge but a really really simple easy strategy that is very very effective. Ok let's go on to number 3 and this is a whole. Whole separate class here but transplant as much as you possibly can you know again if you go out there and so seeds in the ground have you ever noticed that we'd almost always grow faster then than your crop I mean I think the only thing that can keep up with weeds maybe is radishes. But you're you're losing the battle from the 1st because you can't cultivate and tell you know where your plants are and so by the time you can get out there and cultivate the weeds have already got a huge jump start. With transplants you know exactly where your plants are you can be cultivating from the 1st day if you want to so it's a huge huge jump on weeds. Ok. Mediately gives you a 3 to 4 week or more head start on the weeds. Here's another good one an easy one schedule time for cultivating put it on your calendar if you were here for the last class we talked you know we do seeding once a week Monday is seeding day Wednesday is cultivation day so we cultivate once a week if you copes of h. or garden once a week you'll never have a weed problem. Little attentions often repeated right. Is that simple. Little attentions often repeated now you know of course the challenges life is never quite this ideal because what if it's raining on Wednesday you know so you've got to be able to look at the weather and look at the schedule and you've got to have be able to adjust it a little bit but ideally you cultivate in the morning of a dry warm day if you do that those weeds if they're only this big don't have a chance they're done they're history. Dispatch we needs when they're in the white thread stage that means you know the the roots are just a tiny little white thread less than a quarter inch tall and again it's really simple to get weeds when they're that small but if they get a little bigger especially the grasses you know even if they're only this big they'll quickly reroute especially if there's any kind of moisture so it's really really critical to get them at that tiny white threads stage are you plying this to your spiritual lives. To make cultivation as much of a priority as planting or harvesting I just remembered the thing that I was going to add this morning. Don't plant more than you can cultivate Ok so this is your bonus today everybody you know has these grand plans in the spring they go out there and they tell up a quarter of acres. And they plant 100 tomato plants you know what are they going to do with 100 tomato plants it's better to have 5 tomato plants well tended and taken care of than 100 tomato plants that are wild it's. Ok so yeah you know only plant as big an area as you can cultivate. The time spent is an investment that will pay dividends later there's a great quote from $1.00 of Elliot Coleman's books about how and I can't remember exactly how it goes but something about the fact that 7 men you know when you're weeds are 4 inches tall it takes 7 men to accomplish the work of one man when you're weeds are this small you know it is so true it will take you so much effort to redeem your garden you know this is a cool thing I think God gave us gardens and I have to be careful how I say this but. Because he wanted us to enter in a small way to. The work of redemption it's the closest we come to creation. To being creators you hear what I'm saying I'm not trying to say we're gods or anything but He gives us the privilege of creating a garden. And if we don't redeem that garden from sin from the weeds then it's going to be lost Ok That's number 4 number 5 use specialized cultivating tools and I want to just show you a few here so you want to use something that is 100 percent efficient so there's 2 hose that I would highly recommend this is a co-linear hoe it's just got this thin metal blade. That you will easily break if you start chomping at we it's not made for chopping it's made for skimming the surface and I can try to demonstrate this. Basically you hold it like you hold a broom you're standing upright and you're just going along your beds like this just stirring the soil does that look hard. This is called the colinear hope this is an elm Elliot Coleman design. It's not backbreaking it's it's fun. And the thing is this only is going to work on your loosened beds you're not trying to to hack through big we needs or hard soil with this because you'll break it it's not designed for that but if you have loose beds you're walking in the pathways and actually you know if you've got your plants well space you can actually just go like this I mean how hard is that you go down that way and back this way. Does that sound or look. Difficult. So this is a great tool it's a perfectly designed to allow I love the handle it's super lightweight just it's a perfect example of a tool that has a special purpose and it fulfills that purpose extremely well and then this is your other tool this is called a stirrup ho you can probably guess why. And this comes the colinear ho comes in 2 sizes like I think it's 3 and a half inch one this wide or a 7 inch one this comes in 3 sizes this is the medium size there's a whiter one and then there are one and this is what you use for your pathways. Or you can use it in your beds but this this works better for bigger we are for harder soil. And I'm going to have to put this down so. So you're just going along any cuts on the push and the pole so you go backwards because you don't want to be stepping on what you've just cultivated or you can maybe reroute those reach weeds so you're just going down the path like this. 100 percent efficient never leaving the ground. So those 2 tools right there can change your life now you know you can find a cheap version of this at the hardware store hula ho. I would encourage you to pay a little more and get these are Swiss made tools and if you take care of them the last a lifetime this this has a replaceable blade and you know the only thing that can happen is the blade wears out or you break this bolt and you can easily buy a new bolt it'll last a life time. Ok. When does this class and. $1145.00 so there's another tool that has just come out in the last year which is kind of a hybrid and it really has I think it's pretty cool. It's called the mutineer and it's got a simple quick release here and you've got all kinds of heads you can put on it you can put a hook colinear whole head on it. Or you can use these wire Weavers which actually are really cool again they only work. In loose soil and on small. So this one you know I can either use it it's I guess it's 4 inches wide and again if if my soil is loose you know I'm just going like this and it's just it's disturbing the soil is all it's really doing but if I'm getting in tight spaces I can turn it this way and use that smaller head. But then they've also got these. Torsion Wieder heads. Which are really kind of nice if you've got a fair bit of garden area and you're. Say you've got a row of carrots that are just coming up this straddles the row. And weeds on either side of the row. So again you're just going along like this. And they they've actually even got. Got a head now that is like this that can fit 3 of these on it. And so if you're if you're really getting into it you want to see there that's going to seed multiple rows at a time because then you have perfect perfectly spaced rows and you can cultivate multiple rows at the same time which really becomes very efficient you know let me just say this the guy well Elliot Coleman and Conor Crick more kind of came up with this tool Conor Crick more has the highest grossing market garden that I know of in the country I mean he's he's grossing over $350000.00 on an acre. And he doesn't even own a tractor. This is how he cultivates hand tools he doesn't even use a B.C.'s So you know people think Connor cricket more never sink farm you can go on You Tube And I mean his farm is amazing best farm we've ever visited. C r i c k m o r e never sink farm but he's he's a master at efficiency and you know people think oh man I don't want to use hand tools I want to use a tractor Well you show me one person using a tractor that's making 350008. And you know I should I should caution you know don't think that you're going to go out and make $350000.00 an acre because Conor Crick more is near New York City has really good markets. And you don't need to make 350000 and you're right. But because we have other priorities right now we want to use the time that we free up from cultivating for ministry. Ok so we've got colinear hose stirrup hose we'll hose let me just show you this so the wheel is the stirrup hoe on steroids. So if you've got a really big home garden you know I would say like. More than a quarter acre I would encourage you to consider investing in one of these again it's the same company it's a Swiss company. That makes these and these can you can have all kinds of different attachments on it but we mainly use it for cultivating our pathways so again if if the soil or if the weeds are small and the soil is dry you know I'm not doing it right because I'm trying to hold this my but you can you can literally run down your pathways using this now if if the weeds are bigger. Or the soil is harder then you have to develop a little bit of a different movement that multiplies the effort of year of your hands you kind of do this. And that movement. Unclog says the stirrup if you've got bigger weeds but it also you know as you're walking you're putting the movement of your body and your arms together so it gives it more force So this is an amazing tool that you know and they've got all kinds of attachments they've got an offset so you can cultivate your beds while walking on your pathways they've got. Well they've got all kinds of things. There's even a little bit of Tennessee dirt on there. And. Ok so that's the we'll hoe. And then we showed you the wire Wieder. Ok so here's another one a simple one number 6 use tight plant spacings to shade out we use the plants themselves to keep the weeds from going. Plant leaves should be touching at 3 quarter meant to her size. So once the lettuce gets up so it's touching each other you don't have to cultivate any more that's going to shade the weeds out now are you going to get a stray weed hear there yes you will but then your cultivation time is just walking through the garden and pulling out the stray we. You know that's not hard. Ok here's another one now no these are starting to get maybe a little more you know a home gardener might be saying wait a minute I don't know that's too much but I'll tell you what Silas tarps have really revolutionized our farm if you're using them aren't you at better together. You know and as I say here in a 2nd it's the closest thing I've found to no work gardening and you know I say close this because there's no such thing as no work gardening but so I was tarps are basically just very heavy duty plastic they're u.v. treated so they won't break down the last for many years especially if you get him out of the sun when you're not using them but basically you know they're developed for the dairy industry for making silent. But they're being used on market gardens. For t. a the market gardener is the one that really introduce this to us and it just blew me away too when we visited his farm and he pulled back that tart and there were worms all over the surface I mean in we're talking big fat worms I couldn't believe it. And so what he does and what we do now is. Well I'm trying to think of when I you know because we use a different ways at different times of the season. If a perfect time that we use it is after our spring crops and the classic example is beets you know beets you can keep cultivated really well for a while but once they start really leafing out it's hard to cultivate them because you just end up breaking all the leaves off when you cultivate them so beets as they're maturing the weeds tend to kind of start growing in there and we know well we're going to be harvesting him soon and it's not worth us going in there and hand weeding them because the weeds aren't going to be going to see before we harvest the beets so as soon as we harvest the beets you know if there's big we need switch you hope there's not but if there is you might want to run over it with a weed eater or something to just kind of knock them down and then you you irrigate make sure the soil is good and moist and then just cover it with that silent hard and put sandbags around the edge like every 5 feet or so depending on how much wind you get and just wait you walk away and you work in the other parts the guard a month later you come back and you pull that tarp off and any any weeds that were there are almost totally. Decomposed. The soil is more ice and loose it's incredible I mean it's unbelievable you're saying wow why didn't I know about this years ago and you literally you know you pull it off and all you have to do is broad fork the soil to loosen it up just a little bit I mean really don't really have to do that and you're ready to transplant boom. Yes So he's sharing that they had Bermuda grass Better Together farms which you know I think of any We I think Bermuda grass is probably the one that scares me the most. Fortunately we haven't had to deal with it much at our place but boy. Yeah so it works in fact you know I recommend to people if you're if you're really planning ahead and you know where your garden is going you want to plant it next year you put it down now and if you leave aside those tart down for a year it will get rid of all your perennial we as and when you go to plant man it's amazing Ok so I know there's more questions but I'm going to try to keep going here though the last ones we're going to go through a little faster kept it's best if it's kept down for 3 or 4 weeks the longer you keep it down the more effective it's going to be although I will tell you this. You don't want to just keep it down all the time we you know we took a sabbatical a couple years ago and there were there was one place where we just put a silent start down for the whole year and now it will get rid of your weeds but it's not doing anything to improve your soil because that makes sense so I found the next year when I planted that soil where that Silas tarp was the crops didn't grow as well so you know it will it will do a lot of good things but it's not improving your soil. Ok you shallow to learn no till you know this is still a little controversy Oh especially in Adventism and I wish I could go more into this but. Of course no till has gotten a bad name because no till is another way of saying spray around you know that's the big conventional farmers do that's a totally different kind of know until we're talking about just not turning the soil over now you know somebody always asks Well what about the quote about plowing deep in and plowing deep and plowing often and you know I have my own interpretation of that and I'm not going to say whether it's right or not you know I think that she was using the terminology of her day and what I think she means is work the soil deeply. And do it often and I do that with my broad fork. So that's my interpretation. But I could be wrong so. But the idea of shallow Tiller no tail we already talked about is not bringing up more weeds you know when you use a rototiller you're bringing up weeds from you know 9 or 10 inches deep and weeds can sit down there at those levels for years and years and tell they get brought up to the light of day and then it's like wow. New life. Ok use plastic or fabric mulch again I am not a big advocate of plastic I don't like to use it but there are some crops that we do use it on we use it on our strawberries there are certain crops we just can't make economical without it but fabric mulch is a little better because it can be really used for multiple years it's a woven black fabric that you can burn holes or cut holes in. It is very effective. I think you can also make lazy gardeners which I don't like to do we don't want to become lazy but so we feel we recommend the 60 day rule if something's going to be in your garden for over 60 days it might be worth putting it in fabric so you don't have to continually be cultivating it if it's a short season crop. You know. It's it may not be worth using it and then of course you can use organic mulch is which you know the great thing about organic mulch is as you're adding organic matter to the soil you're improving your soil but it comes at a price it can keep the soil too cool in the spring it can keep it too moist if there's too much moisture and it can also harbor. Pests and diseases you know things like the squash bugs love organic mulch to hide in so you have to weigh the costs and decide is that something I want to use. Ok this is an important one never let we go to seed. We better say that together right now Bert led we go to see you do whatever you have to do you know if you've gone on vacation and you come back in the weeds have taken over get out the weed eater get out the mower it's not worth letting the weeds go to see you know chop it all down cover it with a silent start. You've got another chance next year. There's a saying that will strike fear in your heart one years seeding is 7 years we. So you let those especially something like pigweed you let that go to seed you're going to deal with it for you know your grandchildren will probably be dealing with it. Ok So again these are this is the 4 roast cedar we use. And again this might not be so applicable for home gardeners but by using a multiple multireligious cedar you can cultivate much faster and easier. And here's flame weeding and you know you're not going to go out and buy one of these in less year a market gardener but you can go to the hardware store and buy a single burner model for just it doesn't cost much and it's very effective but you have to understand you're not trying to incinerate the weeds you don't have to do that all you're trying to do is burst those cells and it only takes a 2nd or 2 and if if you you know the weeds will kind of just bend over a little bit they don't look dead they just look like they're taking a nap but if you come back in a couple hours then you'll be able to tell they're like out flat Ok so you just have to go over it quickly and lightly but again they need to be small they need to be it can be combined really well with the stale seed beds just go over you're still seed beds with that. You can buy cheap ones and so I was going to say something else and. I will. Use clear plastic for solarization I've been reading more on this I've actually never done this because it's a little bit more work. But it works really well from what I'm reading and from I'm talking to farmers that have used it so I must be more ice temperatures must be hot and ideally the edges should be sealed That's the part that's more work and so because farmers are always trying they've got more work than they have time you can't offer in a forward the time to do it but I've heard really good things about how well it works. It kills not only the weed seeds but actually disease organisms in the top inch or 2 of the soil so basically sterilizes the top inch or 2 of soil which organic farmers are saying whoa I don't want to sterilize my soil but again you're talking about the top insured too so all those good organisms that are down deeper will come back and recolonize the soil very quickly from what I've read the last one here use some other crops. Oh wow we're in good shape we'll have time for questions use some other crops to outcompete we need. So again this is not something you're doing in season usually but there are a lot of crops or there are some crops that will grow faster than we do you know what this says here Buckwheat Buckwheat grows very fast you sow Buckwheat 6 Lee in the summertime. And it will smother out the weeds the weeds will germinate but the Buckwheat is growing faster than them and it also is a very fast crop it will start flowering in 30 days or so in the middle of summer it's great the bees love it the beneficial insects love it you don't want to let it go to sea because it will become a weed on its own but it's super easy to pull out you know Buckwheat is super easy to pull out so that's one there is in the summer you can use but soybeans cowpies or sorghum savanna grass I would caution you against sorghum so then grass if you're a home grower because that is so. Bulky that. It's very hard to get rid of and it creates so much organic matter that you don't know what to do with it all. Winter wheat thrive Vetch in Crimson and Clover can all be used to smother out your weeds. So 15 strategies Ed I would encourage you to seed thicker than the normal rates that they will tell you because you want a really thick crop So in closing I would save you these tips as tools in your tool chest all may not be relevant for your situation but the more strategies you use the better the chances of keeping the weeds from winning. Keep in mind that it is very short sighted to allow others farming or gardening activities to take priority over fault of eating I mean it just doesn't pay when you're out there trying to sort your lettuce mix sort out the weeds from your lettuce mix you're losing your profits if you're having to hand. Your carrots you're losing your profit now I'm talking the market gardeners again if your home gardener you want to go out there and hand weed your carrots because it's character building. It's. All financially profitable farms that I know of have their weeds under control you just can't. You can't crush it in market gardening with weed problems and this is the real key here a weed free garden will be a much more enjoyable place to spend. When your garden is a beautiful place to be you will love to be there. And if it's a mess you don't like to be there. And we want to be there because God says they're right and he wants to walk with us there so this is really important you know this is important for our characters in its It's important for our guardians so with that we'll take some questions yes right here and then in the back suggestions for eliminating devils claw Well I'm afraid I don't because I don't even know what devil's climb is are you from Florida. Yeah I'm sorry I don't even know what devils claw is. Shows. A vine with fish hooks well so I can't give you specific. Suggestions but what I can say is if you use these strategies consistently over time you can get I believe you can get rid of any We you know one of the worst besides Bermuda grass is Johnson grass because it's got these big underground things that. But you can get rid of Johnson grass it's called little attentions often repeated every time it sprouts up you're out there with your for digging it up getting as much of the root as you can the root can survive long term without photosynthesis so as if you keep knocking it back never give it a chance to catch its breath it's going to die. Sooner or later Ok back there. Ok so he's just saying it's not just don't let it go to sea but don't let it mature at all and I would agree with that again you know your goal is to get it when it's almost before you know it so if you if you sense your time for cultivating and you go out there and psycho Manders No we don't need to cultivate this week cultivate anyway because there are weeds there and you're getting em before you can even see them. Ok there. Let's come here there's 2 here and then want to over there. See. Ok good question how do you balance closing up your spacing with risking lowering your yields or you know it could build disease pressure as you get tighter spacing so you know I guess I would say the simple answer there is I look to those who've gone before for suggestions look to successful growers and what spacing they're using So that's a short and simple answer. Yes. Ok. Ok So she's suggesting leaves as a mulch to help with squash bugs Yeah you know I think is that because the ph and stuff is that way they say not I know I allot of this ph stuff. Is why tails in my opinion Ok. So she's saying you can use like contractor trash bags instead of silence type I don't know if they're u.v. treated so I don't know how long they'd laugh. Asked their heavy duty for sure. The site was tarps are fairly expensive farmers friend who has a booth here sells them. But you know it's the kind of things you can go in with others they're 100 feet long or 105 feet I think actually and then they're different widths from 24 up to 50 feet why you don't want to try to get a 50 by a 100 foot because you can't even move that thing takes. Ok. Yeah I was going to say that is an option if you have a source for old billboards that works. The only thing I would say to that is if they're not really dark I'm convinced the black does something you know if it kills weeds faster if so if it's a light color it may not work as well there was a one over here and then I see a hand back there. Ok good question if you're doing still stale seed bedding does it matter whether you amend before or after. You know I think it would depend on what you're trying to add if you're if you're putting on a nitrogen source you might not want to add it too far ahead of time because it might depending on what it is it might already be leached out of the soil to some degree but I would say anything that you're trying to work into the soil you definitely want to do beforehand because the whole idea is to not disturb the soil after. Ok back here Ok So she's wanting to know about cover crops Yeah again that's a whole whole separate session but I would say the general rule for cover crops is you turn it in. I'm trying to remember what percent of flour this is can somebody help me here 20 percent. 10 to 20 percent flowering so you want to wait to tell it's starting to flower because that's when it's got the most bulk and it's got the best carbon to nitrogen ratio and that's when it's best to turn it in if you wait too long then it could be setting seeds again and you don't really want that probably. And also it's beginning going to become much more carbonaceous which may be a good thing or a bad thing it depends on how quickly you're needing to get in there again yeah yeah Ok so he's asking remind me if I'm not teaching the questions but he's asking could you put down straw and have a under a silent start. Yes you could but straw is you know very high carbon So it's going to break down fairly slowly so you're going to need quite a bit of time to break that down. Hey there's not as much you know you've got to be careful with hey you got to know the source and you know it can have a lot of weed see yeah you've got to be careful bringing stuff from off your farm because you know a lot of compost and hay and stuff has been sprayed with things that can get you in trouble way in the back yeah yeah cardboard works if you have a good source of it so yeah that's doing double double duty Why don't we just have a word of prayer. There Lord we thank you for being here with us and for teaching us and I pray Lord that we would apply these lessons in our gardens and more importantly in our hearts may we learn of you each day we pray Jesus' name. This media was brought to you by audio proves a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio version or if you would like to listen to more sermon leave it to w.w.w. dot audio Verse dot org.

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