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Master Guide Skills Development - Part 1




  • June 16, 2019
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Our Father we thank you so much for the blessings that you've given to us for a chance to be here at this Michigan camp meeting and to get to know you better while we're here now we ask in a special way that you send your holy spirit here so the people don't hear the words that I say but they hear what you have for them ask the chair as we prepare to work with youth that we will see them through your eyes and see what we can do to help them grow to love and serve you we ask this in one name Amen so I hope you're here for master guide stuff because that's what we're working on where we're today we're going to be starting out on the leadership skills and of things and. As soon as I said when I saw this on on the inner webs I said to myself Self I like this picture she says I'm not bossy I have skills leadership skills understand. Hopefully that's not quite how you do it but. So let's look a little bit at some of the objectives of leadership leaders cannot be leaders without other people therefore we're going to explore the roles of leaders within groups and we're going to look at some of the tasks for leaders this is one of the primary tasks for for the eaters' shooting down other idea. Where among the things we're going to look at is modeling attitudes and values the values denote beliefs purposes and attitudes that are chosen hopefully thoughtfully and acted upon welcome. Welcome take a seat and hopefully there's going to be some some binders coming. To pass out to people. Society is changing rapidly and so we're going to be looking at. Valuing rather than values the following are some ways that have been advocated for helping young people to develop. Modeling setting an example by the way adults behave or pointing to good models in the past many of you have heard this the story of George Washington in the cherry tree that's one example on another one. Was Penelope who is the young beautiful wealthy wife of of a deceased is the aam and. Decease he's off on this long voyages Odyssey and he was gone for years and there are all the suitors that were after her because she was so beautiful and she just said No no I will wait I will wait I will wait so these are examples of modeling. Now there are I'm just going to throw out a little idea that as in that one is a small example of things that we can do to model things to our kids our kids see us. Hopefully more than just at our meetings. And just I'm just should make around a quick poll how many of you are on the adventurer side of things Ok we've got 3 m. now on the Pathfinder side of things Ok. The idea I'm going to hopefully they see us outside of meetings and. When I. You know I have a day job I my day job is I repair band instruments like trumpets and trombones and French horns and stuff like tubas this kind of stuff. And I'm very blessed because I get paid to do it and periodic Lee. I get this paycheck and so then when I go to the bank I'd cipher out you know. How much of my depositing how much my getting for 4 tithes and offerings and all this kind of stuff when I fill out my ties on will I stick it in my shirt pocket and because that will for one thing that way I hopefully will remember when the Deacon comes around and it's and it's ready to do. But I also think it's important for kids to see that some of us do that that's not a big thing you know I think it's an important thing but I'm not doing it as a look at me it's just part of what I do like I carry a Bible you see what I'm saying. So. That's a little bit on modeling. Something else that people sometimes try and do is persuading and convincing you know give reasons for this and that and we need to be careful that we've got good logic behind what we're doing for instance like here is to is a number one is a number there for 2 and one or equal right. No no they're not that's that's their goal probably that reasoning they're sometimes welcome there's handouts in the back. Sometimes we will give children choices among values that we accept such as How do you what do you want to do you want to help wash the dishes or help clean the floor. And as a parent I've done that one on a whole bunch of times you know. Anybody else you give kids choices like that yeah. Now sometimes people come up with really strange ideas choices like are you going to always tell the truth or never speak to anyone again will that's not a logical way to instruct. Them you know when you give them. If we give this advance properly another thing that is done is to is by a dramatic or emotional pleas for a certain value is often accompanied by models associated with it another thing is rules and regulations that are intended to contain in mold behavior as sometimes we give people rewards here we've got a lot of dogs it's getting a reward What are some of the rewards that are sometimes given to kids. What Candy any other ones. Money what other kind of rewards are given to kids. That's getting to do special things like what Reagan the feeling. Like a day alone with mommy Ok Or if you. My all in this room are to you not insulting you telling us you know I work I saw it so it's not. Ok so. Ok you know what. Yeah Ok What is that what is their currency is if they do thus and such do they get some laps around the house on the 4 wheeler or get the plates and certain amount of time with games on the phone Ok Ok what other things can be used as a reward for kids outings to go sledding Ok. Pardon go to your friend's house Ok Anything else long ago far away I can remember my piano teacher when I would. Play a piece well she put a little gold star sticker on that page unfortunately I didn't stay with the piano why as much as I showed up but anyway those are some of the things. Sometimes they'll be cultural or religious dogma that's presented as unquestioned wisdom such as saying things should be believed because our people have always done it this way. You know like and sometimes we need to be careful about doing some of this because you don't know what a dogma looks like somebody has proposed it that's a dogma it's a cross between the Lama on a dog anyway. Moralizing telling the way it ought to be is a nice easy method. Use the appeals to conscience the still small voice and know that this kind of thing could be helping somebody with a guilt trip so here we have the guilt clinic right next to the junk food sale. And anyway moving on. On the valuing process helped me him to figure out things on their own. Sometimes we have to you know we wanted them to make choices and to make them freely. Help them to discover new the alternatives that are available and help them Ok if we've got this and if we if you do this what will happen if you do this what will happen and how them play through it and outs in the back on the table if you're interested. Ok. So if you do if you take this what happens and have them explain what happens and if they don't know we'll help them learn and what happens if you do this and help kids to learn what it is that they prize and cherry skills sometimes they don't know and sometimes we have to help them figure it out we also need to give them opportunities to make public affirmations of their choices one example of that is an induction ceremony that's were people they have a chance to get up in front of who everybody that shows up and say yup if they aren't physically saying yes I want to join but they have to light their own candle or whatever it is that they do to say yes I want to be a part of that another example of a public affirmation is baptism Yes that's so we want to give people give them a chance to do these things and help them examine repeated behavior patterns in their lives so when you do this and this and this these are things that are like with did we have a good outcome and if yes the a for our teens and if not so what happened. Do we want to keep doing this or not da Do you like it when when you get a time out do you enjoy just having time out or whatever it is and help them to discover or do we want to keep repeating this pattern and there are some patterns we'd like to see repeated and there's some that we don't there's all sorts of books and things out that can help people that want to spend more time on this valuing thing remember this leadership is not about advancing yourself it's about advancing your teen I remember there was a. An activity a few years ago at I don't remember a thing was that one of the Pathfinder can freeze and the objective they had. On the grass somebody had drawn some lines and and they were told that between those lines was a river and they had to help get their club across the river and people were given a paper plate and you could only stand on the paper plate you could put a paper plate anywhere on the river but to keep it from floating away you had to put your foot on it and so how do you advance like that well it's to be where you need some teamwork and so you see somebody puts of a plate down and gets their foot on it and then they get both their feet on it and somebody hands them another plate and they get that down with the foot on it and then somebody puts their foot on this other one. And you keep working your way across and people have to keep handing plates up and and but you have to get the whole team across and there were some clubs where some of the older and and I will just report what I saw it was some of the teen guys who were accustomed to. Competitive sports and they wanted they got themselves across they got to where they could leap and then their plate just kind of floated away and the next person couldn't come. Up with what we're doing if you're good leadership will be advancing your team not just yourself look a little bit group process for a group to be effective the members have to be able to exchange ideas freely and clearly. They also need to feel involved in the process by and by groups is very important if they don't feel like they're a part of it they're not going to be getting involved oh by the way I never have to apologize I neglected to do something that I try to do whenever I start we need some basic ground rules here and here's why here here is one of them Dave is not a professional presenter Ok I learned some time ago I make my living water on my feet and I'm moving all the time because and so I have learned that when I get into this position frequently. I move to this position and so it is fair to get up and walk. Anytime you need to if you just need to stretch or whatever if you need to do jumping jacks whatever do them quietly if you think I'm jesting about my problem this true story just of just a few months ago I came home from work it was a Monday and. I said to my wife says it's we've got to get my hair cut we've been talking about it for a while and but there's always stuff going on but but I could see she didn't have anything going on so I went and got the stuff and it says now you have a cup my Ok Ok you know and so take off my glasses and she goes to work and I don't want I don't like hair in my eyes so I close my eyes and after a little bit she shakes my shoulder and she says you're done now. You can get up I says Well yeah but you have to have a trim my beard yet says yes I did and your eyebrows. I said I just so one of the ground rules is if you want to get up and move you can do that Ok if you want to insult me that won't do it you'll have to find another way so feel Feel free to get up and move Ok. So and at any time if anybody's got a question please ask it because in my and my wife will vouch for this I do not read minds I really not good at that So Ok back to this group process just because because all the members of a group are capable individuals doesn't mean they're going to effectively function as a group I'm a transplant to Michigan we moved here 23 years ago from Minnesota. I was able to grow up in the only county in Minnesota that does not have a lake there's only one and that's the one I grew up in but while I was there. I and personally I've always been very athletically declined so I had don't keep up with all of the sports stuff but I do to him I have been exposed to the radio and I know I heard on the radio that some members of the Minnesota gophers basketball team had done something I don't know what they did but the star players several of them got themselves kicked off the team. Early on in the season very early in the season and so now all of a sudden the coach doesn't have enough players to function as a team he didn't have enough and but they're supposed to but they've got all these games scheduled and he recruited some football players now there are similarities between basketball and football but there's a whole bunch of differences they have the shape of the ball and and the goals look different and you know all of this stuff but all of these football players had probably played basketball in high school at least to some degree so they knew how they knew how it's done but they also knew that they were football players that was their main sport and all the guys that had left were the big stars and so they knew that if they were going to win anything they had to play as a team and so that's what they did and all of the sudden the team started winning more games. With the football players than they had with the hot shot basketball players because they were playing as a teen just you know and that's an example here they had these very capable individuals but they didn't work well as a group hopefully you can get your clubs to work effectively as groups and your staff a group process can help a group wrote a maturity and we can often channel them into effective work and sometimes the internal conflicts can be broken down because we're working toward a common goal and the group can benefit from a skilled and dedicated leader but an effective group leader must understand that each member is responsible for contributing to the total task of leadership everybody has to take responsibility for what's happening long ago far away I had some boys that I thought needed a Pathfinder club. And our church didn't have one and so I volunteered to start one I didn't know a lot about Pathfinder I mean what we I had been in up a Pathfinder club as a kid but we we weren't doing the full program we we worked on honors and when there was a Pathfinder fair camper e we went and did whatever happened there but I didn't fully understand that the total process but I had some ideas and so I was almost article and there were other families that were interested in having their kids in a club but there were 2 mothers that came to me and said if you're going to be marching in drilling my club my kids are not going to be in the club and. I guess I didn't know a lot of about pathfinding but I knew that marching drill was not the central focus. And I said don't worry about that don't worry about that that's not going to be a problem and so we formed a club and we started having meetings and I remembered as when I was a kid seeing all these pictures in the junior guide of kids who had finished their 50 mile bike ride working on the bicycling honor and a bunch of them had the kind of bikes I was accustomed to at the coaster brake you know the old one speed cruisers but some of them had those fancy 3 speed English Racer. But these kids were these pictures show these kids finishing their 50 mile ride in their uniform Ok this is before the days of the class b. field uniform day so there though they didn't have the set that the honor session but they were riding in their dress uniform because that's that was their uniform and I always thought that was cool so I. When we're starting up I thought how this is my chance to get the bicycling honor. I just of the this is inside one of the advantages to leading one of these groups is you get to relive party are you Kate you don't have to grow up friend of mine back home told me says Did you know that if you get to 50 if you haven't grown up yet how. So I'll give some of you something to look forward to. Anyway I wanted to do the bicycling honor and so we got together for our meetings and we had a devotional and then we started working out some of the different components of the bicycling honor and ferry for I was blessed with my staff I didn't have a lot but I didn't I had enough I had the girls counsellor in a guy's counselor and Jonathan said to me you know you've got these 310 mile rides they have to do and the 50 we ought to tell them that you have to have gone on at least 2 of the 10 miles before you can do the 50 there was good counsel you know so so we said that you know and so we worked on learning the bicycle anatomy in and and all of this stuff and patching tires and we went on some rides and stuff and we did our 50 mile bike ride and we actually joined forces with another club in the area so our kids could work together in all you have fun anyway somewhere along the line somebody in the conference office told the guy who was head of Pathfinders for the Minnesota time friends yet about 4 other hats for the war but they include him in that hey there's a guy down in this little town that strike thinks he's running a Pathfinder club and he doesn't have a clue what he's doing and so the good brother he came down and he gave me the 2 hour version of the basic staff training courses normally 10 hours or more. And so I learned a lot and all the sudden now we learn we were working on what then was the. A Why. Requirements today is investiture achievement which is clarified and simplified some stuff anyway so we were start working on math and the time comes for the Pathfinder fair and we get a list of these various events to the fire building and this and that and then there was a March and drill thing and I thought Ok I don't have to worry about margin drill because we don't March and drill and so we're working on all these other events and. The week before the Pathfinder fair weekend I'm in church and on I found out the week the the Wednesday before at our meeting that. 2 of the kids. Were not going to be going to the fair from this one family. This is one of the families that wasn't going to March and drill so in Sabbath the other mother came to me and reversed her position and said it's Ok if they do some marching and drilling Ok Well we've got one meeting on Sunday before the fair this is our chance to learn to March and drill and so we had our worship and then we were started working on the stationary commands and it was a disaster we worked on it for about 15 minutes 1015 minutes and then we went and worked on one of the events that they've been working on and they'd all they've been working on that they knew what to do and that went really well and then we went back to working on margin on the stationery commands and and it was it was really pretty grim and. But we are other 10 minutes on this and. Making a little bit of progress but really not a lot and then we work on another one of the events that we've prepared for and we've been working on that and it worked great and and and so I think you know the kids they enjoy those because they knew what they were doing went back to March and drill no stationary commands are a little bit coming together but then I started throwing in the moving command and all it was terrible and another that was about 1015 minutes and we broke and worked on the other one and that one worked great to do that because they've been practicing it after we got through it that I we said squat to the parking lot and we want to try marching hand drill again we got a lot more space and now. They're starting to get some of it figured out and it would put. Their kids and you know are one of the reasons adventurous don't March and drill is because neurologically they're not ready for it do they know right and left a few of them do but there's Pathfinders that have trouble with that there's adults that have trouble with that so you know we don't March and drill adventurers. But we all the so you know what these kids knew that were going to be at the fair and were having trouble figuring out right and left what we had a crush truck parking lot was as Ok everybody reached down which is your right hand which is your right hand Ok reach down with the right hand and grab a rock you have a rock in your right hand so when I say or write face you can think rock so that way they knew it was which way to go and so we started working on and that seemed to help some of them. But we I knew that we needed to do it together and so all of a sudden I'm I'm pushing them and saying you know right face and I said it with a rhythm right face boem boem that's what I wanted them to do. And. I noticed some of them were doing it and I would just keep going right face until we've got everybody going in the correct direction and then but then we needed to get it all at the same time and that was almost together again right face almost together just a couple of you aren't aren't with it right face again and all as I'm doing this all of the sudden they figured out that they how well they did in fact of the whole rest of the group that what they did were actually did affect everybody else and they needed to get it right and all of a sudden in less than 5 minutes I saw this go from 6 kids to one teen something happened and marching drill was never the big thing in our club in any of the clubs I've had it's never been the big thing but it is a tool that we use because it can help them become a club together yes. Why Harry. I did not ask the mother why but I knew because of previous small church book membership ballpark a 100 actual attendance membership 50 ish and om. I knew that one of them. Her husband had been before my kids were old enough to be in Pathfinder her husband had been the drill instructor for the Pathfinder club and he'd been a Marine and he was trying to make all the kids Marines. And the other mother they were really close friends that the families were close so that's that's the background beyond that but. We weren't trying to we're not trying to make Marines out of our kids we're not trying to make soldiers out of our kids you know yes we do sing the song we're soldiers in the Army. Yeah and we and we are in a war yes but we are not you know what I'm saying. Hiya. You know. The. Job is. Already. You know that was. The way they. Write their solution yes. So that part of the training in last in the. Revolt again I was there you know. Or like the. Plague. Yeah or. Everyone. Right. There Well you know. There are. You know. Yeah yeah yeah a big part of it is learning to work together as a group and another part of it is the ability esprit de corps the the group. We are a group together. Idea and it also just functionally is can be a way to gain order when when you're together and you know. I've run I ran 3 small clubs and then I ended up with a bigger one and lo and behold there are differences between running a big club and a small club and fortunately my deputy director was able to to give me some really good counsel and one of the she had been the director of the year before and she used to whistle and she she had one on one blast man and just stop what you're doing where you are and listen. And there was one and I don't remember what all the other ones were but there was one for then you blew it 3 times yours posts everybody supposed to fall in and I don't remember what 2 was that at any rate. And that worked well and I had an outside whistle and I had an inside whistle. The outside one was a lot louder and it worked well now when I. Would we would start meetings with the pledge in law. And then go to sing the song. I.e. How do you sing the song without a starting point and along the line I ended up acquiring what's called a pocket trumpet it's the tubing is just as long as a normal trumpet but is wound up more and so I do it play. The Pathfinders introduction to the Pathfinder song on that and then all of a sudden it dawned on me I can use this and use this go dump that I'm thought of Dom does call the kids and they like that better than the whistle Now I recognize all of you're going to play trumpet or or the bugle but But what I am saying is look for different ways. To get your kids different tools that we can use but anyway that's a story of how I used marching drill to help them learn how that what they did affects the rest of the group. In you know this when this live come that's when I usually tell the basketball story but you got it early. Working on the group process as people in the group work together to accomplish a task they're doing something to and with the other members of the group and you know they talk over here about a network of changing relationships between individuals. We my wife and I have 4 kids and when they were young we noticed that you pull out any one of them they go to grandma's house and it changed the total dynamic of the group. One of the clubs with the last club that I had in Minnesota. Heidi was the spark plug and I remember one meeting when Heidi wasn't there and everybody was kind of sitting around. They were sort of there are blogs. No bloody 6. Any. Heidi was a sparkle. And as long as she was on my side things went well and. But if I you know another side of that story is that there were several meetings there were a whole bunch of meetings that afterwards I went home and evaluated am I going to keep doing this Pathfinder thing with all the grief that she gives. It well the you see where I am so he's So I think you've got the answer to the question yes and. Heidi was in one of those transitions stages as a kid and all the sudden as after she got through that all this boom the Heidi we had known before was back but better. So. Pastor Craig did you have any extra binders here. Let's find out how many how many of you need are starting out and don't have one of the Pathfinder are one of the master guide binders how many of you need 12345. The master guide binder has really clear I'm I'm just really really really happy about our conference using those because it's clarified so much what the requirements are. Before. We have these cards in and I remember I would spend up spending 1520 minutes just explaining the card so people understood what they had to do to become a master guide whereas now that we have these binders it really clarifies a lot so welcome. Leaders in the group have to help the group have to help everybody recognize these different functions and help them to work together Om just like if you have a team of oxen or horses they both need to learn to work together and I can remember a guy in one of the churches the 1st church I had the my 1st club in he had he actually farmed with horses. And he talked I remember hearing him talk about how they have to learn to work together. And. Guess what our kids are the same way they have to learn to work together some and some both take to it easier than others here's a. Here is an interesting cartoon and word that one guy says someone should take care of the problem you could take care of it only if you do everything you don't do anything not a single thing it's my job to angrily identify problems why all Amy that's not your job. Everything is so ambiguous here someone should take care of that problem is it just me or is this meeting taking forever how many of you have met this person. So there are some specific leadership methods that can help group achieve an accomplish some of these things. And there's people in every group that use different methods and we're going to be looking at some of those one of the leadership functions the initiator contributor one that gets things started this is a really good picture of a starting pistol. The the. Shutter was open at just the right time to see the explosion. Another leadership function is the information seekers someone who asks questions we also have information givers the people that give less answers we have the coordinators these are the ones that help to keep things rolling the orienteers who want to point to the group toward its goal of keep it moving in the right direction and. Frequently the in a group that's easy to get discussion can get off on side tracks and they can help bring things back on line the summariser the one that will pull together related ideas and they can restate highlights of the discussion the consensus Tester the one that says that trial balloon see are we near a conclusion how much agreement have received here so. Some of a we're going to look at some of the different roles here the courage or one that gives support to others in the group to keep them functioning together sometimes people just need a little encouragement and some people who get it are more easily discouraged than others we all have different life experiences and something that's a really big challenge for somebody is nothing for somebody else because of their skills abilities life experiences whatever and so. Sometimes the people for whom something is a really big challenge just need to be encouraged a little bit the harmonizer how many of you have ever seen. A sheepdog working it out it's amazing to see how some of them can work I've seen some cool Youtube's of some of them at night with lights and it's really cool to see how well we can move the herd around walk around we have also have gatekeepers that's going to say Ok this is what we're supposed to be talk not all that other stuff Let's let let's try and work on this one and make sure that everybody's on this task and not on the others and let's get everybody involved now we have the standard setters and this is what we want to achieve. We can't do everything but let's this is the standard that we should be working toward. Sometimes though you're going to find the blockers they're going to just have they are what they are they're going to be go they go off on tangents they overreact negatively to most anything then we have the non-participants they're in different passive to anything that comes along. And they're going to withdraw from other groups now. This because somebody is doing I have learned doesn't mean that they're not with you I remember doing one of these seminars up a campus obl No it was a number of years ago and there was a girl in the back that was drawing in and but we went ahead and covered the material come to find out later. What she should that is a part of our her she is wired is she needs to be drawing stuff and she was drawing my Portree Who'd a thunk it but. She was participating in her own way. Another And we have another personality that works against group cohesion the fighter. One sometimes they'll be working for status by blaming others they'll be inflate the egos of others will hold grudges then there's always the clowns they're going to fool around mimic and. Anybody ever go to school and have a class clown you know. We have the Dominators there dogmatic and rigid and they're there trying to assist authority and they're going to interrupt other because they are superior just ask them. Using sometimes will also have cliques and I remember when I was an academy there was one group of girls that even have their name for themselves. And then there's those that just don't pay any attention to what's going on the guide says I'm not convinced that's the best rather Gee then again I wasn't listening some other things that can cause a lack of group cohesion is hyperactivity poorer organisation. Earlier ship now got a little exercise for all of you that everybody got to hand out of k. So we're going to you're going to do the exercise and then we will talk about it it is Operation art beat. I don't remember how much time it says you've got you don't have that much time but there aren't this isn't a huge group so I'm going to give you 4 minutes to do that so go. So as you were doing this now I don't care if you pick somebody or if you did who you big. That's isn't what this is about from my perspective what this is about is for you now to look back at the last 4 and a half minutes did you see remember all those different characteristics that we saw you know the big sumo wrestler you know the clown list the you know and all of these things. Don't name names did you see any of those people in here. What does it so that were there people hear the words that were keeping everybody and that were made sure you're on task. So did in the discussion did it sort of a leader or several leaders show up that sort of lead the discussion. Oh. No where are you. Ok. Every group is different. And because of the time frame you guys didn't have a lot of time to work on it and sometimes one group in a group one person will become a leader for a while and then somebody else will become a leader and and some and like you and this is a fairly small group but sometimes you can see 3 or 4 of those different. Things that's what that was as what this is about we're not going to save a life with this heart but hopefully you will develop leadership skills so that you can save some kids hearts for the Lord. Because those are the hearts that are most important. I know you know I'm glad that I've got this one in here that and that it's working well. And that I don't need a cardiologist I'm I'm I'm very blessed but. The important heart thing is that we get our kids. There to give their heart to the Lord and help and they're going to need help doing and and and that's that's why you're here I hope. And and you made a wonderful point that different people in our staff will reach different kids that is so very very true. But I want you to know it is fair I don't care if you're under an adventure club or a Pathfinder club or in a white club or a Sabbath school class any of those kids that are currently in your class or were in it or are going to be in it you can pray for any of them they're all fair game. So and there's times you need to tell him that our Father we thank you for the blessings that you've given to us thank you for the opportunities that we have to minister to your kids help us to find ways to help them you know we did this exercise was looking at who's a good candidate for one heart transplant but the way you've worked it out you can give everybody a new heart and help us to learn. To help them to want that new heart into learn how to feed it where and study you share. This money. 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