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05 Unselfishness and True Development

Israel Ramos Justin Kim Sikhu Daco Callie Williams


What is beyond Calculus?



  • October 26, 2020
    1:15 PM

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In our society there are lines all over there is me and you there is the other and then there's the other author on this a busload of inverse around to look at the point of education and across these lines so stay with us. Coming to you from Silver Spring Maryland welcome to. The Bible based conversation or my. Contemporary issue. Of Ok. Now here's your host just within right. Regardless of culture we call the society or nation that you're in there are lines there are classes there are different peoples and different races and different just different categories that were in how does the topic of education intersect with these kind of societies on the subway so to look at the topic of selflessness and troops service we are in the studio on this episode of inverse we haven't been in the studio for for all that was last quarter and so we're really appreciating the studio we appreciate the air conditioning some of us know all of us and we totally want to welcome the callee who is joining us from afar and we appreciate the time difference and space difference Bush is here with us so you can pray for us you're pretty sure that's play loving Father we thank you for the opportunity to come to Scripture and we pray that you would be our teacher now that we may obtain an education from you that would transform us and make us more like you we pray these things in your name Amen Amen Amen Let's go to our beginning to explain Luke Chapter 10 in Israel if you can read there Luke 1025. It says and behold a certain lawyer stood up and tested him saying Teacher What shall I do to inherit eternal life and he said to him what is written in the law what is your reading of it so he answered and said You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart all your soul with all your strength and with all your mind and your neighbor as yourself and he said unto him you have answered rightly do this and you will live but he wanting the just of his justify himself said to Jesus and who is my neighbor and Jesus answered and said a certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho and fell among thieves who stripped him of his clothing wounded him and departed leaving him half dead now by chance a certain priest came down that road and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. Likewise Levi when he arrived at the place came and looked and passed by on the other side but a certain Samaritan as he journeyed came where he was and when he saw him he had compassion and he went to him and bandaged his wounds pouring on oil and wine and he said I'm on his own animal brought him to in and took care of him on the next day when he departed he took out to dinner nary and gave them to the innkeeper and then to Him take care of them and whatever more you spend when I come again I will repay you so which of these 3 do you think was neighbor to him who fell among thieves and he said he who showed mercy on him then Jesus said to him Go and do likewise Ok thanks was true and that was a long passage and again we're trying to get deeper into Scripture and in the time allotment that we have we choose one passage and we really want to get into this so we want to encourage if you're watching out watching us to get into this text with us so Kelly we we love the way we are so glad you can be part of us well as I said during the break that you are kind of like the bosonic glaze that brings a piece all together at the end and we're so glad your example I mentioned about American custom I want customisable pieces on an inverse but we're going to ask you what are some some thoughts that we've covered in this arc on education that you appreciate and that you remember this. Yeah there's been a common thread that I've really appreciated throughout that's what we've done so far and that is that tragic ation originates with Christ himself I mean with God It's not in a book or a degree or a school or even necessarily some kind of experience but it's really just about that communion with God. That God is our educator he's the one that has the best purposes for us and just it is a crisis in our education itself it is and that's really been just a beautiful thing to discover because that's not really the 1st thing you think of when you think of education I think of like homework or in writing and also a teacher for a long time so it's nice to see that education is really at its best it's Christ centered totally I mean I'm from an Asian background I mean my parents were like you're an Asian you're not a b. and you're not seen and you know that and you get straight A's. And I've never heard that the Titian was over here and spirituality was over here and many ways I mean Sabbath keeping Sabbath and taking a break for education or just throw a wonderful wonderful exercise or wonderful practice I should say and sometimes we do these these 2 are separate and I really appreciate in our conversation that we've brought in creation and redemption and spirituality and just kind of mixing it all we're not really muddying it's actually coming into order pretty pretty nicely we're now we're in a Luke Chapter 10 and so Israel what does Luke Chapter 10 have to do with with education in a broad sense we get deeper into the text so when we when we talked about in the 1st episode we talk about how education in the sense that it's an acquaintance with God. Not just as not just as a an awesome add on but it's necessary why is it is why is it important for us to know God because God is the the beginning of education he is education itself he gives us knowledge and he has a monopoly on knowledge we can find it outside of him and he's also the end goal the whole point of life this. No God for who he is then going for a heart that out because that sounds very very out there so God is the beginning of education he is the source he is the one who who everything that we know is is who he is that's where all sorts starts off with then you said and he is the means so when God created us He created us for the purpose of knowing him right now we have fallen and now the question is in a fallen state how do we live life while God is now the source not only is he the source of education but he's also the medium of education it is God that teaches us you know we talked about the practicality of calculus and all these different things it is God who is the constant stable line that says all right knowledge itself is not going to give you what you need in life knowledge is limited knowledge is not going to give you peace knowledge is not going to bring society to where it needs to be I need to be the center of that and so God is not just the beginning of education but he's also the source of education he is the medium of education and he and his and goal you're in the end goal if it's all this properly takes place that is what the results will be we will be like God Yeah Ok I think that's that's pretty profound point that thing absolute solid education and that's the whole purpose of education now is why why is it important for us so so we talk about equating ourselves knowing God this is important not just to know of him but to know him when we talk about the knowledge of God 2 things emerge one of them is the God as our Creator we need to know God as the creator of the world so we studied the topic of creation not only God as a creator but also God as our redeemer Why is that important to what surfaces from that was surfaces from a knowledge of God from these 2 components is the fact that God is love creation is motivated by love redemption is motivated by love and so here when we're reaching Luke Chapter 10 we're talking about. About you know that question What must I do to be saved the answer is you need to love God but you also need to love your fellow being human being and so this is now we've looked at in acquaintance with God and we're now transitioning over to what it means to love our fellow human beings and love for others will ultimately be demonstrated in genuine unselfishness and if there's any story in scripture that demonstrates what genuine unselfishness looks like it's the story of the Good Samaritan before we go into the text Luke I was just thinking when it comes to atheistic and atheism and secularism and and then we talk about Intelligent Design and talk about theism and trying to bring theism onto the academic table there are those who are intellectually honest and they say you know that until intelligent design could make sense we we can see design but when it comes to the idea that behind that intelligence is a person or a personality of which we have a relationship with this is where they get this is just to inform tile this is too ridiculous this is this is not academic this you've crossed the line years and then they actually become intellectually dishonest and he said we can't get into that level of creativity but this is where God is actually saying we need to enter into that relationship there is a person a a with thoughts independent emotions and and a beginning and an end and I mean it's a relationship and that which is ridiculed is that which what it says embrace by Scripture and the crazy thing about that is that and what God tells us is look not only do I exist but it is your privilege to find that I exist in so many ways that you don't even know him and so everywhere wherever we look outside of the blood of sin this knowledge of who God is and of his characters revealed I mean the character of God is revealed in all of in all of creation is revealed in all of redemption and as we study the. Things we learn more and more valuable things of who God is what does that do it creates in me a desire to be like him and to then exercise love to my fellow human being and you will realize will realize that the whole point of that is this is what makes a society would make society good is not understanding calculus in and of itself but that would make society good is my wrestling with calculus to see how am I going to make this a blessing to my fellow imagine a society not with Sadako degrees in calculus but imagine a society full of good Samaritan. Samaritans out under that have a Ph d. in calculus Oh yeah you know we don't have to put down but you know we don't have to put down calculus but but but we have to we have to reach beyond. Getting a degree and that's the whole point of education is not the pursue all of a certain course of study but it has to do with the whole being and what the hope of existence against Chris was going to taxi to want is this selflessness and where maybe there are some people who don't know the story the good Samaritan we just read it as we're just read it but he says it is report out this selfless and where is that highlighted in a text you see if I can backtrack in the text like that the story comes about because a lawyer is asking Jesus a question so this is an educated individual and Jesus throws back the question at him and to mine what knowledge do you have already in you to answer this question that you're asking but this is this is kind of like you know an instructional. What do you call it Socrates method that is so tragic you know type situation yeah like. He is going to a Christian man Christian he goes and that's that of answering the question. But you have this interchange that's happening it's kind of an educational moment right and this lawyer who is an educated man asked Jesus who is considered a rabbi at this question and just I get back at him and in the answer that he gives there is he he. He's got a question again which is really the real question he was asking who is my neighbor which was a question that was being debated all the time in their schools was like so where do you draw the line for who I'm supposed to love because I should love my neighbor and where those lines drawn and then Jesus answers with this parable and so it's as one to place it in the context of this was actually an academic debate that with current in the time like with my neighbor and so on come back after the break we'll see how Sikh who deals with her neighbors in a very Christ like or Socratic way Stay with us. Has impressed been a blessing to you Do you have questions comments or feedback you'd like to leave us find us on social media by searching interest by on Facebook Twitter Instagram for you to while you join us like us card us thumbs up next our handle again is inversed Bible no spaces now back to the discussion. As I said in top of the show I there are a lot of lines in society different categories and sometimes we take the Bible we take Christianity we take Church and we impose that to even redefine and reestablish these lines and this sex in Luke Chapter 10 the story of the Good Samaritan goes against seeker you were saying how we treat our neighbor. If they want to say it was that they had when in the onset of ho I'm supposed to be saved. And so was the love of God and you love your neighbor but the question was Who is my neighbor who am I required to love so you have here that they had accepted at least this lawyer had accepted that you must love your neighbor but now it was like How far do I have to go you know like how deep is this loving my neighbor thing and how much is required it's almost like sometimes I come to God it's like what's the minimum I can do this in order to be saved and he was kind of happy and got us a kind of asking Jesus that was the minimum that we have to do in order to be considered as loving our neighbors and then I'm so that Jesus gives is not a minimum answer is actually yes it's a maximum. And that's that's where the power vocals and I fish is going to yeah man Ok. So into the sciences he he gives these these 3 individuals that passed by a man who has fallen on difficult on a difficult situation and so you have the priest passes by him the Levite passes by him and then finally you have the Good Samaritan and the 1st 2 who passed by would be considered upstanding individuals in society and actually you'd anticipate that their response to seeing someone in that situation would be appropriate but the way that Jesus tells a parable is that even though they are educated they're upstanding even though they're considered you know in terms of social class they're up there but the way that they respond is actually not appropriate for someone who is a keeper of the law but the individual who you would not anticipate. That kind of response for from is the one who actually responds in the right way so as far as you know understanding what the law requires this lawyer maybe has an understanding of you're supposed to love God and love your neighbor boating comes to applying the law in your life apparently just by virtue of asking that question he is deficient in the character that it takes to love someone who with other someone who is different and then this person was considered other Consider a different maybe an educated in matters of the law he's the one who actually in his life has a and Demick understanding of what is required and who will not think in verse 33 a certain Samaritan these 3 groups I mean you have to who are privileged to operate class true who have not been socially wrong it's the Samaritan who's been has gone through the suffering who's been persecuted who's been if you know the history has been mixed by the Assyrian Syrians and they're the ones who have been wronged and here he's kind of the hero of the story something. To bring out Kelly Yeah I want to keep going around along those lines of just you know Jesus was very good with details one of the millions of reasons why I love him and he kind of just said a man came by but he specifically says a priest which you know as as we know like this is a person as opposed to something right and I think if you missed a Levites who is from a tribe who was selected by God to represent him and to to minister to other people on his behalf and like Levi to know who they are from being a Levite is not a job you choose when you're 12 like it's who you are and that person failed to and then to put it out of Samaritan and Samaritans I mean I would say it's probably like you the Samaritan had a personal bad experience with Jews and this is this shows me like Matthew 5 right were talks about how we should minister to people and we should bless people and pray for those people who are mean to us and Iran kind and says America was like Man I hate Jews because I mean to me. I'm not going to minister to him but the Samaritan shows Christ like unselfishness because the Samaritan sacrifices his his own things for someone who probably was mean to him and that's exactly what Jesus did for us right Jesus sacrificed himself for people who were completely against him in their identity and in our nature and usually I'm going to lay all that out so the Samaritan as you're saying is he's doing the maximum he is being Christ like level unselfish and so I love that too in response to verse 29 because the person isn't asking about this to know more you know to grow as a person he's asking to justify himself like give me where I can exclude And so you just like all right you want to do that let me show you what the true level is here and you know going back to what you talked about before this isn't this isn't achievable in our own strength or by gritted teeth but it's a by surrendering to Christ so I love just that balance of how Jesus shows us things he's like here's the standard are like that's way too high and he was like yeah I know so let me like work in you so you can get up there you're talking just in the North American context you know we're living in we're we are times and just you know whether you have a mag a hat or you have a b.l.m. t. shirt I mean both sides in Jesus talking to both sides to cross the line and rather you whatever whatever clothes you're wearing we've got to put on Jesus 1st to be willing to be a Good Samaritan and go beyond whatever classes whatever wrong has been done or whatever whatever has not happened to you these are these are things that are that I'm urging in my mind right now I don't plan for that but Kelly Yeah I just is a tag line that I just try to keep in mind I'm out of sight on a previous episode but there is never a time not to be Christ like there's never a context never an opportunity never an interaction and we can always be Christ like I'm always expected to be that way I love what a seeker mention is about the maximum and here Kelly what you're saying is not even for that day I love how the. The text continues on verse $35.00 the next day he departed he took out 2 dinar and given to the innkeeper and said to him Take care of and what more whatever more you spend then I will come in and repay you so you not me thinking for that day like checkbox I did my good Samaritan deed a used as an investment for the future not just be Christ like today I got to be Christ like for tomorrow any more preparing for that and then as a sacrifice I think he takes the hit for for the future which is. Something that back there and I just love that mentality though because he's not yet just not a checkbox mentality and it's not like are people watching like he's on a deserted road and he found a guy who was hurt so there's no glory there's no look at me and he's not thinking about it just like man this person needs help and so I think that's one thing also that I want to harp on for a 2nd is how simple the Christian life is it's not easy but it's simple right he's not like calculating tallying points with his French or weaknesses or is good pointers bad points just like someone needs help I will help them Nelson is not complicated. Of a save that I thought of the thing you're talking about he takes something from him it takes it takes something out of him in order to be a blessing to this forum to this person with other than him right the Samaritan. It takes something out of him because of the experiences that he has had in his past with Jewish people the way that his people maybe even if it wasn't a personal experience but the way that his people were treated by Jewish people and so there are these lines that society has drawn that would it take something out of you to cross that line right and then like you are pointing out that I will repay you that it takes even a financial investment out of him so when when answering the question what does it really mean to love loving requires giving obvious out and giving all of. Of yourself in terms of emotional investment it takes giving of yourself even like a financial like material investment there's no way that you can actually show love without giving and so this good Samaritan demonstrates that in the way that he responds to the need that he sees before him and sometimes we want to love without giving without giving of ourselves without divesting Yeah without taking a hit to our finances without taking a hit to our emotional you know stability is like Amen I'm just I just I just can't with you right now and that's it like we're done but loving means that I'm going to invest it's going to take something out of me and so what the Good Samaritan shows us in response to the that who is my neighbor it's who is my neighbor it's that to love someone it takes something out of you and more so take something out of you for someone that you maybe typically wouldn't because society would actually be like well we get it understand why you didn't stop and add to that sometimes and then when you're describing him many many ways but it's not within me I cannot do it I cannot love that person and I think that we need to ever need to come to that point because that is real it's not within me and so there is a supernatural link that that we come to the point that it failure within me it is not within me that is a 1st realization because current education says no your it is possible for you you can overcome try harder didn't I but we rely on a supernatural extra no outside what they call an alien righteousness and rely on that. Second is Ok. You know I mean you could do a 2nd well. I forgot to reply Ok because I think maybe. Just I was thinking about you know tying it back to what we say in the beginning with Israel's comments right at the beginning of this episode about love being at the core of you know like knowing God and knowing his character and his character is one of love that when it says you know all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and if the glory of God is a character that are on display and that character is one of love then really we've fallen from being able to demonstrate love like to truly love we're incapable of doing that and for God to restore us to his image like just as a baseline forget knowing you know understanding the complexities of science or you know like the you know nuances of whatever forget that stuff like even just as a base being able to love and I'm a mother and what what this is telling me is that I don't even know how to love my own children truly you know and we've fallen from that like the most basic of interactions you know that humans have and in that wall like God is just trying to bring us up to like let me show you how to love and we can even do that of ourselves and so that this process of education is trying to bring us to a place where we can love even just as a basic human I mean a man or a county and Israel. Yeah I just want to harp on that point I think both you and speak of just sad about you know this it's really taking us outside of our own national capabilities gritted teeth or otherwise and as someone who likes to be able to see what she is doing in my life I think this is a good indicator of when we look back on our life I'm like man I did not accomplish that by myself it is evidence of the Holy Spirit is moving in your life and is educating you in this Christ like education that we're talking about so that gives me encourage me to is when we have to hit that wall in order to you know reach out to God and to have him take us past it so the wall should just be an indication that we need more surrendered cries I mean taking your comment and seekers coming together the question is is where has our current education has it taught us to be selfless has it taught us to love and it's not and so the question is Where do we learn to to in a sense where do we learn how to be human in a van in the best sense possible and there is no source outside of outside of the obvious is what what what is crazy about the story of the Good Samaritan the reason why it illustrates so perfectly what we're trying to communicate is the fact that in the story it is full with it is it is full with in the windows of education and of politics and of religion right I mean this is there's a political divide between this America there's an educational divide between the Samaritan and the 2 other people and there's a religious divide and what's amazing about this whole thing is a God says you know what I'm going to show you very very easily how simple religion is by how you act and the Samaritan ignores religion politics and education and he essentially goes to the craziest extent to show what love is he doesn't ask if I was in this situation what would he do he doesn't ask is my own life at risk these are all questions that education has trained us to ask right you're stupid if you don't. Take into consideration the fact that you're going to bring in a person that's going to hurt you you're not smart and so in this in this story God you're the Samaritan ignores these things and asks a very basic question does this person need my help can I help them if the answer is yes to that they're not Moblin gated to do whatever it takes to help and in so doing I become like Jesus which is the source of truth and knowledge and about you guys about how we have been inspired by this episode or be rebuked by this episode or maybe a little bit of both we need more and more of the education of the Lord Jesus Christ in our lives we're encouraged to go to N.P.R.'s Bible dot org where you can see more of our education and Bible studies and previous quarters n.p. inspired to take the Bible seriously for your life and take education from a different worldview perspective altogether you can also go to our social media outlets and go to Twitter and Facebook and continue the conversation we'd love to hear from you thanks so much for joining us next week here on hers. 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