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03 Meet the Farmer: Joshua Dysinger, Bountiful Blessings Farm

Joshua Dysinger

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Joshua is 21 and has grown up working on his family's farm. He loves the life, and sees his future in farming. 

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  • January 15, 2021
    9:30 AM
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Welcome everyone it's $930.00 and we'll get started we have a lot to cover today on a topic that. Is maybe probably. A little puzzling to many of us in the room and that is. How do we affect of Lee grow veggies and the winter. And actually make it work and we're very blessed to have Joshua deicing are with us today and I'll introduce Joshua just a little more here in a 2nd but let's start with the word of prayer my. Gracious father once again we're here on Friday morning at Agra and we. Feel blessed to be here and. A lot of information to listen to and soak in and maybe be best supplied back at our own homes. We thank you rush away for Joshua deicing or today as he will help help us better understand the experience he's had in winter production and growing veggies through the winter and how to help us consider that for what we do in our own homes. Thank you for your presence here with us today your Holy Spirit. Which blessing our time together we pray in Jesus' name amen All righty so. I know some of you how many of you were here for the presentation that. Joshua's parents John and Pam Di Sr did yesterday Ok so a number of you weren't here so we're going to just we'll probably go back and just lay a little groundwork you might not have pictures form I have to say in like 4 slides of my How did you this is like an overview of the 4 Ok and I've added like a bunch of Ok For put you know I have to like where we are Ok Perfect Well let's let's you know has up I don't know yeah yeah it seems like. It feels a little iffy doesn't it all do the best we can or not you know so give us a little overview Joshua This is our. Our location we're about an hour south west of Nashville so Nashville and the surrounding. Area is our main market so that's where we are Middle Tennessee. This is our farm. And this picture is a little bit. More topical picture of our farm so it's is a little bit different now than this picture this is probably. 2 years ago but the fields that are for this to the top of the 6 fields there that are past those long greenhouses are no longer there there's actually a big house in that field. This last summer my my mom's mom my grandmother built a house that's there we do just like last month added a force green house the 3 that were a long ways there had a 4th one so that's the main the main. What's changed. From that picture but that's a pretty good overview of the farm tell us a little bit Joshua how how did you personally get involved in market gardening. Amber back that far. Well I mean how I got involved is pretty much born into. My parents were Strawbridge strawberry farming starting in 98. Born in 96 so pretty much is oh is that I can remember did that for like. Maybe 5 or 6 years I believe. And just realize it's too risky and too difficult to have all your eggs in one basket so I think it was 2004 that we did our 1st c.s.a. which was the winter c.s.a.. But that was a little old a little different but. Yes I think 2004 we started winter c.s.a. and it wasn't until May be 2010 that we even did much summer growing so we kind of did a little back hurts for most people would start but yeah so then I was obviously involved on the farm my whole life but. It just. It came came together really well my my dad's brother at one and his wife were also working on the farm with us and we had kind of had the seasons where their family was growing the winter season I would say 2012 we kind of set this you know there's their family was in charge of the winter my family was in charge of the summer because we had a little bit more. Manpower I guess more kids. So because the summer is more demanding is for is just like. It's busier there's a lot more you know the weeds are growing like 10 times as fast in the summer as in the winter and everything grows way faster and just more busy yeah so we were doing the summer my aunt uncle and their family was there in the winter. And in 2015 they were feeling. You know feeling like they maybe wanted to move on into some other. Mission there that they've been doing more overseas stuff and so they weren't sure that it was something all their kids were married and not no longer involved on the farm and so they weren't sure that it was something that the 2 of them wanted to keep up so in 2015 I ran the winter c.s.a. kind of for them. You know they were just going to take a season off see where how they wanted to move forward and then you know decide which direction they wanted to go so in 2015 I did the winters d.s.a. for the 1st time. And they you know decided they wanted to be more free to be involved in in other. Other ventures so it's very very perfectly worked out because it was 2015 I just finished up my high school and I was kind of like. Where to go like how or as my future on the farm because you can only you can only have so many like families running one farm and make an income out of it. So it just worked out really well that I was able to jump into the winter and kind of have my own season that made me feel much more a part of you know I had my own part that I could expand However I wanted and stuff like that so that's overview of how I. You know stayed on the farm how I started farming was just because I was there but how is that how I really decided to stay on the farm and make it a long term I would yeah thank you very much for sharing that I would be curious to know anybody here actually burnt born on a farm I mean where your family was full time farming and you were born and now no I wasn't either I mean most you know most of us here at Agra this is a big learning curve I wonder if you ever felt like if you ever feel like you had a big learning curve or did you feel like it was just you being born into the experience you know I'm saying I remember one time we were out at your farm This was back my son Allan I don't know 8 years ago or so it was an interesting 12 he was an intern at your farm at your farm there for 6 months or so yeah and I remember coming out we came to visit you guys and. I mean you would have been a 2012 what would hell do it you've been then. 1616 Yeah yeah I remember we were down at one of these houses here one of those houses there and of course I was told Lee totally green to any of this stuff I had no I mean. I mean I could say all those are vegetables in the ground I knew that much right and those types of things but I member you putting wiggle wire on a house I guess there are some and some channel Ah components of plastic over and it's like you aren't even thinking about it you are just like talking to me and you're just like we're doing it it's just like it was it's like I was born into you I just remember it's like you know I think I'm like oh how do you put that we go wired on man you make it look so easy I mean it is pretty easy once you get the hang of it but 1st time out things are a lock or you know yeah and so I just think. I wonder being born into something like that. Do you ever feel like there's a big learning curve in certain areas where you fit the sense that. Not not a ton I would say that it's you know it's for sure a blessing and. I mean anybody that's done agriculture to me certain extent realizes you never really feel like you know like that well you know it's very humbling occupy. It's it's it's one of those things that I might like Personally I don't know as I feel like you know any kind of farming genius in that I know like that much but then like to someone that's you know not really done any and just like starting you know they may feel like I know a ton and so it's that thing where you never really feel like you know you have or you know you never know it all. And the other thing with being like born into it and growing and growing up on the farm yeah. That is. You know it's it's great but there is like the slight possibly disadvantage of. Not necessarily knowing all the like wise and you know I know how to grow everything you know. Pretty much but like you I know wat I do like everything you know maybe not as much as I should and so when you when you're starting out you're trying to just learn everything you know all about everything you're learning learning so much and when you just grow up doing it you just learn you know I learned what we do and you can get a little bit stuck in a rut of like just doing it because that's what you've been doing and that's something we've really been trying to work on the farm in the last few years is like looking at our systems and really trying to. Improve things and not just continuing on what we've been doing for the last 10 years and that's good I mean in a way it's kind of like how we maybe learn our native tongue lot of us learn our native tongue and we don't know why we say things in the way we say I'm right or why we use that word there instead of using this word here and proper and somebody learns a language from the ground up they're going well when you went to be more appropriate to say that in this situation or something and you go oh yeah maybe so I don't like that one that just. Learns that almost you feel like knows more because they realize you know why and how is everything yeah but yeah yeah this I mean it's right you can do 1st in faith Yeah well yeah yeah there are some places just like that so tell us a little bit about the farm how much but how much do you actually have in cultivation right now I mean that's about what we're looking at I mean I know it's a little different than this picture but you know right now I what I think my dad had said he his calculation was right out and acre and a half Ok so like these these fields that are between the greenhouses there you know we're not counting the like driving past between all those fields like it's just the plot right we're also not like you know just counting growing space like the rose and everything in the rows in the walkways and so the thing is that way I think that wouldn't count this area but it would account everything yeah you know pathways everything yes in the growing but not like so where the the bigger fields you know that are going this way you have split those up a little bit more so in the picture here they're 40 by a 100 and there's 15 by 5 yeah. Now they're 30 by a 100 and there's 12 like this 6 and 6 so just change the change up a little bit but so now when you're actually in tell us just a little bit about the are you pretty standardized that it looks like maybe these fields here are a little different design than those fields is that would that be true. Yes So that's that's definitely one of the things that we've been trying to focus on is standardizing and that's one of the reasons we changed all the fields instead of 40 by 100. 235800 because that's closer to what all the big houses are that we have learned by a 100 Ok so these tunnels over here are like 30 by a 100 Yeah you can see there's one of the 1st ones like a little bit smaller Yeah the other 2 are pretty much the same design the 3rd and we put up also pretty much the same design at some point we kind of want to redo that smaller one so you've got 4 there that are all the exact same I love my dad talked about like the heating of the new one we put up is going to be like automated heat and stuff and we're the goal is to get all of those like that yeah that's definitely down the road a little bit we also changed on the on the move once of these one these 4 that are lined up this way on the back of your screen they move they have 3 positions so that that house can move from here to here or all the way down up here and they're all for like that up and we move those to the beds go in the opposite direction long wide long way so you can see the beds are going this way yeah I'm in the picture removed and you going this was about 50 feet instead of they were like 30 something feet the other way so so these these beds here instead of going this way now run might get this Ok And there is like there's still like a 6 foot walkway between each like position for the move also it's 50 feet and earlier 48 feet walkway for you so that's not the whole one bed so that makes makes it so the got $100.00 foot beds and 50 foot beds which is pretty easy even though they're not the same it's like you know for any kind of calculation or anything it's just half and then those are also 30 feet wide so like for our tarps and some rope covers but. Mostly like our silent shark all of our tar is 30 by like $52.00 so if it's in the field we're putting 2 talks together if it's and on the move will once it's just one target and so all your targets of the same size and we're not there yet we still have all kind of different sizes but that's like that that's like the go all the new target for getting that we're cutting our all that size of that everything's going to be the same size you see 2 for the big field and 11 for the smallest So when you when you refer to these carps what be used the targets for one what are the types for are they like that's a like a solid piece of plastic or what is a yes I was tart. You can see on like the bottom left some of the pads have like black like here yeah that's that's a solid start and here maybe as well yeah. So we use that and it's it's not necessarily the goal is not necessarily to use this long term you know. The goal is to be intensive enough that there's always stuff growing you know everywhere Yeah but it makes us of a if we pull if we finish a crop and we don't immediately have another crop that's going to be going in that place you know we'll pull a stylus tarp over it and it will it encourages like worms and stuff to come up also but it will it will kill any kind of. The try to assert any of your left over. Green Leaf from whatever might have been growing there before it will let it make it. Compost like way faster than if it was just sitting out and it keeps keeps weeds from growing up and stuff so you might harvest something and then not be planting another thing there for like a month to pull a tarp over that and then when you're ready to plant you pull the tarp off and it's just like perfect ground planted if you left it without a tarp you have all kind of grass and stuff growing up and you have to like prepare that by you know we'll Harnett raking all the grass off and all this extra work so that's that's all use them for and like I said the the ideal is to be intensive enough that it's not something we're using a lot like it's just. Just sometimes if you have a place that's not immediately going back into a crop perfect sell me a little bit about the difference between the the number of people who work on the farm in the summer as opposed to the number of people who work on the farm in the winter is that different do or do you have the same I'm not sure so in the summer we do an internship from beginning of March to the beginning of September pretty much 6 months. And we've we've had roughly like 4 to 5 in turns. And you know nothing against interns it's it's something that my parents I mean I enjoy doing it but my parents feel you know like it's you know it's a really good opportunity for young people and whoever to just be able to learn stuff like that but you can't necessarily count them as like a full time worker I mean at the end hopefully you know you can tell who's going to his going to make it and farming and who's not dead and if they are they can farm and they're great help by the end but so you know maybe 5 in turns might really come out to be you know 3. Full time workers you know span the season you could say maybe you got 3 you know so it's all about say with that but. I would say in the summer we're running more like you know 5 to 6 full time probably 6 because tails and working a lot more so and then in the winter it's kind of been more just my wife and I but it's been much smaller so the goal is to be able to be run in the winter just the same as the summer so I would say if we're having 6 people you know if we have a 150 member c.s.a. and we've got 6 people doing it and. In the summer we should be able to easily deal with like 4 in the winter so Caleb you know next winter will be a full time employee through the through the winter he'll be done with school have his license he can be doing deliveries for us and stuff like that oh excellent so for sure next year we'll be having 3 full time Kelly and myself and Caleb. How does it work. Walk us through a little bit of the transition that takes place from how you go from summer of you know spring summer production and move into fall winter production I guess would be one it's called or whatever how does that transition I mean for instance if you're growing on an acre and a half in the spring let's back up with in the spring in the summer are all these fields here planted at least and something during that timeframe between March and September generally you have something in all those you have pretty much like you know 3. Fields that are all corn just different successions field of okra 3 fields of strawberries. Maybe a field of watermelon cantaloupe a field of. Potatoes a field of winter squash maybe. So everything Ellie's gets one crop and when you're saying the field you're talking about that 30 foot 513-5800 Ok Right so you have some of those that you're doing like generally a big crop that you use maybe sometimes for storage those are stored at some of those some of those just starting we grow on those as like. Crops that take up more space in crops that are in the ground for a longer period of general time yeah yeah we're not we're not plant like lettuce out there like that right so when you go to make that transition and you're going from from the kind of spring summer to the fall winter do you actually transform that entire acre and a half you have an entire acre and a half Are you growing stuff in the winter and that entire acre and a half as well or how that how does that work now not at the moment I mean ideally we would be doing more than we are right now and you know future future. Times that would be but there's not as much there's not as much of those like big crops that we're doing in the winter so right now like I will plant one of those fields the whole thing of carrots. I'll do one and this this will probably next year will probably jump to 2 cross a cuz so I might have like one whole field that's like. Cabbage and like maybe or you know Brussels sprouts cabbage. Broccoli cauliflower kind of stuff and then another field that's all like you know kale and. Cooking greens and you know just probably split up to do 2 whole fields of bras because. And then a field of sweet potatoes that's kind of more fall. Of field of white potatoes. And that's probably sounds like 5 feels is probably going to be even in our biggest growing you know that's probably going to be all we're getting to in the winter so those things you just mentioned to us are those grown in these open fields are they growing in the tunnels in the open field those are all those Could I just mentioned are all things that I would do a whole field of Ok open field do you cover it at all or is it just totally open range or are you putting any kind of season extension like hoops or tarps or cover anything was so some of the stuff like the carrots you know I still have carrots in the ground those ones I'll put cover over the bras because I'll put cover over the you know super taters and white potatoes I deal or out of ground before especially sweet potatoes white potatoes can you know it's Ok if ideally you get a frost kills your tops and then you start that you know. So definitely some of the stuff yeah has to be Tavern you have any pictures of any that's going to get a little bit I'm not but really when you've got to see orders so this is our seed house yeah. Ok that's Ok you can slow down there there on the left hand side you can see some of the recovery we use we pull it back we're harvesting there so this is another so can you go back just one that right where I'm going. To. Go So that is that one of those tunnels What tunnel is that would that be about 100 ones that was down on the road near the road Yeah Ok Ok so that's that's a 30 by a 130. And how many rows do you typically happen. Do you have. 8. Are these all and 30 and she's been seen. I mean 9 those are all 30 inch space row house so you the row the row format is looking the same regardless of whether you put in summer crops and there are one or crops but all that stays consistent Ok how about irrigation and like during the winter What are you doing do you do you are gay differently in the summer as opposed to in the winter. It should be more different than it is Ok. It should be a lot of drip irrigation or drip irrigation is called and that's why it's and it's really I just don't like gravity it's such a pain so Ok it's explain your player right but did that just time out for say why do you think the drip irrigation is more of a pain while about what about it is that that you don't care for it so it just takes a lot more time to what's on the right so you can see right here and see that you see that piece of plastic that's running right there that has like little teeny slits right that emit little droplets of water like every what 6 inches 12 inches or so I thought like a little pressure kind of valves thing on the end so in the water turns on it goes through pushes that to make it the water not come out the end. And then it just is like a little pressurized hose and it just kind of uses in these little spots drips out water so the reason that it's just a pain is for one it just takes a lot more time to put out. You know for this for this greenhouse one row of sprinklers takes me a minute to put up I just you know for one they're pretty much always there we've got that pipe you can see on the left hand side this one here yet runs down the middle of the hip house. It's got like 4 little grommets we have sprinklers that are on a on a spike you just stick it in the ground stick the hose in there I mean it takes you know seconds for the drip you're talking about putting up 3 you know 3 lines per bed so you're talking about you know $25.00 lines. And it takes out takes just as long to put out one is it does it put a hold on it does the whole thing. And then also if you're cultivating It's like a pain to cultivate around it but the reason that we should be doing it more is just because you know especially for us in such a humid environment you know even the winter it's still very humid. It's. It keeps your plants drier obviously because you're not putting water on the water just kind of using into the ground and so you have much less issue with. Mold kind of stuff which can be a pretty big issue in the winter because when you've got your covers on there you've got this you know she image ground the plants are. Letting off more for whatever and underneath the cover gets very damp and just starts dripping back down and so it's a very humid environment owned under there and so that just would help. On you know not on everything but on a like the Greens and lettuce and stuff so the idea is that even though the drip irrigation is something that's more difficult to work with you feel like it's actually better in regards to most of your plants for the for the winter Yeah yeah yeah it's better for winter growing it just keeps. Keeps you from having more rotten old issues yeah yeah so tell us a little bit about this here what is this white stuff right there that's floating row cover. By that farmer's friend. It's yeah it's kind of like a dryer sheet type of material you can get different weights one thing to note if you're in a environment that's getting you know below 20 in the winter. You know some crops you might need to double cover and it's better to double cover. Then to double thickness of your row cover so. I'm not sure like what they what the term is for the different it's cover. I think it's seems like plastic like right so they don't they have like a lighter weight and more of a medium weight Yeah more of a head yeah there's there's different weights so it's better to double up to lighter weights then to you know do a double but one cover that's double as thick because you've got some air in between there and it's and it's better insulation so yeah that's what that's what we use and go back over to this well you can see in this picture too. We have these metal hoops. Now right or left hand side this is our fennel from this winter. But we have these hoops and that helps a lot with. More eastern stuff and keeping a little bit more. Air rated underneath your covers you know like this Fennel is growing up almost to the hoop so it doesn't really matter too much but like with lettuce and some of your smaller crops you've got a lot more airflow under there which helps it not be as moist and also gives it a lot more protection from the cold because you're covered not sitting straight on the leaves of your crop so you take that white floating row cover and you pull it over those hoops up so that's legs actually Teles flower tunnel right now so there's flowers under that but that gives a picture of the the cover over the hoops Also you can see one of our little wobble or your d.h. and things that's your that's the overhead irrigation that we use so I'm blind I'm missin it where that's like up against the plastic on the right hand side. Oh it's like oh this thing that is right in the middle of the over here way over the way over there or because I got just as we. This is on our on our move pads we run one here geisha one down the middle look at this house. And so like the idea we have one like down the middle of a house instead of on the side but anyway she's has driven here anyways we're not using that but that's just a picture of how many other picture house how many folks here in the room have some of this floating row cover the white sheep raise your hand if you have that Ok so about maybe a 3rd for most people. How important is that for winter growing I mean if you're growing somewhere that it gets below $25.00 it's crucial that you kind of have to you have to protect a plant so now does that it does this floating row cover does that still work effectively even if if if the what you're growing isn't in one of these larger. Yeah for sure I mean it's a it gives the same kind of protection it's just you. You know like for lettuce or something if I have it in a hip house I've got the hip house and then I've got a row of floating recover it's 2 layers Yeah I've got it outside I might just have 2 layers of flooding cover so it's yeah how can tell us a little bit about how often you take this on and off in and during the winter time as often as possible you take it off it can be a little difficult difficult and kind of a pain because you know you just always pull on and on and off but. I don't always go on cover everything just on one day that's going to be above freezing. Which I mean most of our day we don't have that many actual one days that get above freezing in our area it's mostly just the nights it's freezing. So if I have like one or especially 2 nights that it's going to be above freezing so I can pull off and it's going to be off for like 2 or 3 days then I'll go pull everything off. Because it just helps and helps the plans to breathe and dry out a little bit and not a problem get more sunshine Yeah yeah definitely better Sun time growth so let's say you have a day thrown out scenario you have days that are going to be 50 degrees in the day and $25.00 degrees a night and you're Did you see that for a whole week yeah tell me what there sunny there sunny days one would think Walk us through how you would deal with a modem or there or something like that in the winter a lot of our I mean almost every day or harvesting so. If I'm harvesting something I don't cover it obviously harvest and I leave it uncovered and I do my harvesting for you know whatever I'm harvesting. And leave everything uncovered and then at the end of the day I go back and cover up everything that I've uncovered and then the next day out chances are me barbs and different stuff that other stuff that I'm uncovering So it is just a day that's going to be above freezing it's me freezing again at night I'm not going around uncovering everything I'm just if I uncover something I'll leave it uncovered and then you know 30 minutes before sundown I'll quickly go around and cover everything back up that's been uncovered and that kind of you know everything gets you know it all comes out to a similar amount of or one of the exposure Yeah one of the things that the one of the things that I mean you know we have a small farm much smaller than yours but. It's a commitment isn't it yeah it's it's quite you know I want to saw out there. At least like right now I don't have a ton of stuff. I can probably cover everything in 130 especially 2 people it's one of those jobs that's 5 times faster one person has just as is way way better people right so it probably probably only takes me if everything's uncovered it probably takes me about 30 minutes ago rock cover you know when you're when you're starting it all up it's a big you know your 1st freeze it's it's a day you know if you're trying to cover everything in October you got a lot on the ground and it's it's a full day just pulling stuff out but no sandbags it's a lot of work but once it's all Al it's. That's very good what do you have next on the next picture for us to see how this is this was along with my with my favorite crop. Ok that's Ok tell us about I would say lettuce is my favorite crop just because it's it's just so pretty and this isn't all of this you know like some dandelion greens and some chicory stuff there on the right but the left hand side I think is pretty much all lettuce and I just love like a clean house of lettuce it's just like you know you've got your different stages different succession planting green is just really pretty that's a that's yeah do you mind going back to that other pictures of her so that house over there that looks like one of your movable houses so is there a point where that house is there anything planted in that house right now. I don't know when this picture is Ok as from a year or 2 ago it doesn't look what that house move in the wintertime would you actually move that house over something in the winter or not not so much potentially so are. Our movable houses we have had the greatest system and I wish I had pictures I mean it's not really the focus of this but. We just did. A renovation on one of them that it's just huge. So this one you can see right. So we have like little castor wheels that this sit in those pipes that hides that are sticking up are you talking about along the edge here like here these piles out right there got to go all along the edge same thing on the other edge you have these little castor wheels that that stick in and it's like a little ball bearing thing on top the bottom of the greenhouse is on a angle iron and rolls on that and it's extremely hard to push I mean like 8 or 10 people to push it. And it takes you know it took us. You know a good 3 or 4 hours because we have to pull out our. T. stakes we put into stakes around the around the hoop Palace use like pipe clamps clamp it down to hold it down get up and do all those we have to put like some straps hold together so it wouldn't spoil how it was just a big process we modified one of them to have a little concrete track and a pipe that's on the concrete track and wheels that are like inverted kind of wheels that roll on the on the concrete track we have a little eyebolts in the concrete and little turn buckles that attach there so you just loosen those up you can push it would 2 people tighten it back up I would say it'll take us about 15 minutes so that's going to make it where we move them multiple times a season. Wow Right now they've they're not used very well and we move them like in the spring because we're like rotating you know tomatoes or cucumbers stuff they're grown that would move them in the spring and a lot of times you just move them once a year in the spring for the new crop in the knowledge and use it there in the winter so that's going to be that's going to be a huge game changer to be able to move them super easily throughout the season. That sounds like a huge improvement that sounds like a huge improvement and a great Joshua let's go back just saying you know the changing pictures but I want to talk a little bit about the seating the winter plan for the seating How does that work I mean if you want to harvest you know something in January when you see that I mean obviously it probably depends on what word what kind of crop or talking about but mature talk I mean are you seeding all the way through the winter every week or how does that work No I mean so what and one other thing quick just on the spot compared to the spring summer or do you see it every week in the spring as somebody seeding something every week in the spring summer rotation I mean is it pretty much is that like pretty much every week you're seeing something pretty much so how does that change or how do you have to think about seeding when you thought wanting to do winter production Well I mean the main key is you got to think about it before the winter you know. Majority of our seeding is August September I mean the large majority of it. And that's 1st thing you're going to be harvesting in November December January yeah yeah so so just one more thing on the back of the seat you know how they say like oh this is $35.00 days to charity or 40 you know I'm talking about 45 days which are that's probably not based on seating. Maybe in September compared to maybe seeding and March yeah for sure. And so the reason is why is that why is that why is the change such so devil with the with the both temperature you know getting colder but more so your sunlight your days getting shorter slows down your growth a lot and so that's one of the things that I can't necessarily give you like there's not there's not necessarily a. Like a math calculation kind of thing you can do like Ok well see dialogue says this and I'm doing it in the fall so at this amount of days like doesn't really work like that I would say you know especially just because we don't have time to get everything you know what Eliot Coleman's 4 season harvest that's a book yes is a great book if you're or well I'm thinking of that so he's got multiple books for season Harvest is a great book for. You know starting starting growing but he's got a book called The winter harvest handbook and that's focused just on winter and that's a great a great book for. Some of those kind of questions and he's got like crafts in the book that are like you know your months days to maturity kind of graphs. In a hoop in a cold frame out of a cold frame you know in a heated greenhouse is very thorough and so you can look at that and also different zones and stuff and get a lot better idea than I could tell you on on plant and on the main thing that I can just say is that. You got to think about it early and then you're planting. Real close together so sometimes in the winter or in the fall. I may be planting lettuce like almost every other day like twice a week so you know it might plant on like Monday and then maybe Thursday Monday Thursday. But that lettuce even though it's planted 2 days 3 days apart. It's maturity maybe. 10 days apart just because in the winter like every day. On the back and it is adding a lot yeah so it's a it's a huge deal and we're still pretty not work doing that quite well we've tried to do a little bit of winter growing this year down some Yeah but black tell you if you miss that window you almost like Ok well you see that in October it'll be ready in March I mean on certain crops Yeah right I mean it's that it's that slow of a process yeah like you know radishes in the summer you know $21.00 days to maturity 3 weeks yeah it's just no time in the winter you know you might be looking at 8 or 9 weeks. I mean it's right 3 times the amount yeah yeah double or 3 times you know it depends on if you're talking outside or in a. In a cold frame right so in a cold frame would be like yeah like I'm heated. House right as are any of the houses I know you said your new house is going to be heated but new house your timing or any needs other houses are they needed now so they only are heated by whatever the sun actually is drastic if you have a sunny day I mean it gets hot in there. So what would be the difference if a plant since outside with no end no kind of structure like that let's say it's 40 degrees and sunny that outside plant maybe 40 degrees but inside plant would be what I mean you better vent your your hip house in the morning because if you have a hip house and it's sunny it almost doesn't matter what the temperature is outside like to a certain extent it does but if it's 40 degrees outside you'll get 90 degrees in your house if there's no venting so you've got I mean even in the winter you've got to be thinking about opening opening doors opening that's honestly. You can see on this hoop house like at the top there's the darker boards out the vent that is swung up yeah we no longer do vents there it's just open. And we never close it even if it's 15 degrees. So yeah that's it's it's a little heat of course you get to experience a greenhouse effect every day yeah yeah it's. It's I mean it's great except sometimes you get work in there at like break a sweat and then you get outside and chill Yeah exactly exactly Ok what are you what you want you got next on the slide anything. Ok so this is I've got multiple slides of our let's talk about so you you harvest one thing I want to ask you regard to irrigation in the winter what what what to rule of thumb in regards to. Do you wait to the temperature gets above a certain degree before you decide to irrigate the plants or does it not really matter. It. Doesn't I mean definitely you don't want to water. And like so if you water in the evening and it's going to be freezing at night you know that's a bad especially if it's drip it's not as big of a deal but if you're overhead water on your plants built there much more you know they've got that water on the freeze and it can cause more damage so if it's a sunny day you know and it's going to be freezing at night you just want to get your watering done relatively early in the morning obviously don't want to water if it's below freezing but. You know I was long as it's 40 degrees or something if it's just a cloudy day and it's going to freeze at night like you may you know look at your your weather for the rescue week and try and pick a better day to be watering. You know you keep a pretty close pulse on the weather yeah yeah I mean it's you know everybody I'm sure as I heard about the you know are around Christmas time the whole camper thing and in Nashville the camper bomb that took out the 18 hour of the on not was that not enough news that everybody heard about it I guess not so it was we had no. We had no cell service for like only like 2 days but it's not the end of the world that yeah. I mean it didn't feel like the end of the world for most reason but like literally the biggest issue is like I don't know what the weather is going to be. And yeah I mean I'm every day multiple times I'll be like looking at the forecast for the rest of the week and whatever so it's you stay on top of the weather do you ever have any issues with any kind of pipes freezing or connections busting or anything because it gets in my house. We. Tried to like insulate with straw or drain our drain our lines and that's I mean that's another reason that watering can be a pain in the in the winter is just because it's not it's not as easy as in the summer you can just go flip on a valve and have water. So yeah we we have. Water lines pretty much going to all of our individual plots and a valve box at each pause of the underground stuff we don't have to worry about. All those turn the water off at the valve box. If it's going to be like really colds or go stuff at all costs but hey. Boy it's it's not something that we I mean that the biggest pain that I have with freezing is just. For washing produce like you know every every other day I've got to be I've got to step outside the I need the spring off carrots you know be any kind of recross rash or whatever and the hoses are always you know always frozen but we do have one thing that's. Great blessings we have outdoor faucet hot water and salt I was up to that turn it on and leave it for you know 30 minutes and come back in the following so that's that's actually if you live in a cold place that's not a bad idea to have one of your outside thoughts it's that water tears that helps a lot because otherwise it's hard thought the gold hose that you know so as far as what you're a Geisha and stuff you know you've got to think about it you have to make sure that you can join your system enough to not be having those issues but yeah so you have a picture here of a c.s.a. drop by to a parent Yeah this one for c.s.a. drops How does your c.s.a. I mean in regards to production of produce what what can you what could some by the to anticipate in regards to how much produce are going to be harvesting and selling in the winter as compared to harvesting and selling in the summer is a pretty dramatic drop off as far as just the amount of I mean because things are growing so slow or here you have you have your pick have you planted so intensively that you still have like I mean your c.s.a. is big in the winter as it is in the summer has been going on as they like we've got 4 more weeks and we're going to struggle. We're running out of predators. But so you just have to you have to plant a lot more in the fall so you know in the in the summer you may have like 2 beds of a regular you know and you harvest 11 week and then you harvest the next one the next week and then you can go back to the one you harvested you know 2 weeks ago and it's ready to go again and you can kind of you know you can get cuttings you can do off those and then jump to a new one or what. But stuff just doesn't grow nearly as fast in the winter so you're you're noticing that a lot of like recruits and stuff you know tail. One of $100.00 foot bed of kale and in. Summer you know you can harvest it almost every week you know 2 or 3 weeks off each plant every week almost it's running so fast in the winter you might have to have a 100 foot beds because you harvest it and then it just takes a while before you go back to harvesting it again so. Definitely you have to you have to think about. Think about that have more stuff. Growing and then there's Because I should have this year but our c.s.a. also expanded a lot this year we went from you know previously doing like 55 to 60 members to this you're doing like over 90 now so it's a little bit of a learning for you just sent her off now and also. Our farm is in a bit of disrepair at the moment and we had a bit of a rough summer with with the weather and stuff so I really you know in that picture looks like we have a lot of who insists it's not as ideal as that looks I I have. I mean really just to that I'm growing in that are in in good condition like those those long ones down by the road there's 3 of them yeah 2 of them are good that I'm growing and one of them doesn't have and walls. The movable hoop houses 2 of them don't have any plastic 2 of them pretty much got destroyed in the summer we've rebuilt bad storm or what have we had we had a real bad storm like twice in a row or tomato house in April you know she'd have tomatoes cover we had them in a in one of the big house at the plastic blew off of it we could actually reorder the plastic put it on and the next week it blew off a good one so. Yeah we does that mean I don't know if we've never really struggled with that we had some really strong storms I mean just like when was it but like straight line winds one tunnel just one of our movable tunnels is kind of like collapsed another one just bowed out some of the bows broke a little bit so we've just found out we have a lot of red hair to do and we're working on that stuff and we're also on some of our movable tunnels especially when they were built we put wooden and walls that kind of rotted out we're transitioning them to metal and walls 2 of the hoop Houser done to him still need to be worked on so we just are not in the greatest place right now for this winter season for me to have good growing space next year is going to be much better. So that also it was an effect because the stuff that's grown in here houses just is doing tremendously better than the stuff out so yeah that's that's part of our struggle this year but how does a see it tells him a bit about how the c.s.a. works I mean you're there do people just drive up pick up their crate or what have you asked our r.c.s. a method. Is. If we look at year round and come for our farm it's definitely our number one in the winter it's extremely high Our number one in the summer it's. Almost 5050 with farmer's market but it is higher especially since there are only doing one farmer's market now yeah but it is it's for sure our number one so it's a it's a subscription thing for the whole season someone signed up they get a box every week or every other week depending on what subscription they sign up for and yeah I'm just here for one hour and I got like you know maybe. 302530 boxes right there you know people come up unload their box. And bags and it's going to go so do you have multiple drops in a day or do you typically have a different drops on different days. In the winter we have it all on different days and that's another thing that will be changing next year will be keeping the same schedule as the summer which will help his cable be able to be doing deliveries and stuff. So in the winter it's every Tuesday and every Thursday and it's the same in the summer but in the summer so in the winter. We have 2 locations on Thursday and we do every other Thursday so each location is picking up every other week I see understand that yeah they're giving is only you know the full share people get like a. $66.00 box and a half for people get a $33.00 box in the summer or do it were during delivery at each location every week and the full share of people are picking up their box every week and a half for people are picking up their box every other week and those 2 thirds they locations are at the same time 2 different places so we have to be split up there. So that's that's a that's a goal moving on in the. In next year to be keeping it the same do you run 2 different drivers or the same driver on the same day they just go to different drivers because they're that it's exact same time Ok so you have 2 vans are also Yeah so this year we switched our to use this is our Tuesday location and it's our only location on Tuesday so last year we still were doing every other week and then just. Every other week we weren't having any delivery on Tuesday which was nice but this this year we we switched this location to our ideal schedule and that's taking it being there every week false you're getting it every week after getting every other week next year will change the Thursday location issue that so we'll have one delivery on Tuesday 2 deliveries on Thursday bring up that to drive what do you got what do we got next appear and that's is the c.s.a. box for modern us from a few years ago looks like it's actually kind of like a maybe a transition box from the summer because there's some through the years and stuff that's our farmer's market. Which is a little bit part of my season not as much. You know technically my season kind of starts in. September I guess and our c.s.a. and the end of October so we've got like a few months that we're doing that I mean Kelly and I actually do it all year but Right right yeah there's some are some farmer's market pictures I guess that's all I have so well let's take 5 minutes or so we're about almost out of time but let's see if there's any questions anybody might like Ok we've got a couple here I'll come around and over here I hope we put the mask on got to be got to be kosher right. All right. She's with things like you're being frank so you know me. More problems with yeah go that well actually I think the recording was horrible because I didn't realize they're recording I did a class on that yesterday and it's going to go back and listen to it but probably down. His deer fencing. A flex plastic deer fencing you can buy it on at Home Depot online it's actually pretty common online so you just want to get a. A There is like a proper name for it or whatever at Home Depot they just call it flex plastic your fencing but you just want one that's pretty tough but that's what we use it's like 6 feet tall and it's got I don't know it's because it's not like a big permanent fence it kind of seems like mess with the dear little bit like they're not hump they can't tell visually like where it is and they're just not hopeful jumping over it like we have other fences they're permanent they'll jump over them like into pastures doesn't matter but something about the fence it's kind of wave you know it's loose a little bit and it works great we don't have really any issue if we put a fence around something sure profit margins or you verses say spring summer also seeds so you buy your own or do you prepare yours from your own harvest and then the temperature difference or if you have a who or who House and the sheep dry are. Covered on that recover Roco thing. So the income question so currently. I mean. The smites winter season still running from the same the same farm you know infrastructure and everything in this both in the summer and in the winter. 50 percent of the income goes straight back into the farm. At some point hopefully that number will be able to drop a little bit or still I mean you know we've been farming for a while or stop an ally into the farm. So 50 percent of the. Gross income I guess go straight back. Straight back into the farm both in the winter and summer. And then the rest is less and then I think you asked something about seeds you're asking do they they but I magine. We do not so my dad did do something this year that is good and he bought So if you're saving seeds you have to have open Paul unaided seeds. And a lot of the crops that we grow that are. You know more resistant to different. Pasts and stuff are hybrid seeds and you can't save seeds from them so my dad went through and purchased at the crop that we grow pretty much an open pollinated seed and we have a stock in our freezer so if you know anything goes crazy and we can't be buying seeds we've got a stock of all these seeds to start and then be able to be saving we don't find the saving seeds is efficient on a market gardening scale but we do you know understanding the times that we know are coming and not going be able to buy and stuff like that we do feel like it's important to be able to do that and seeds last in the freezer indefinitely so that's that's where we're at right now are purchasing in the freezer. I don't know negative 2 or I think that's like this yeah I don't know Ok one more question in the walk. It does not clear in a couple of things. You you have you have a weekly pick ups for full share customers in the winter. So that's what I was saying on our on our location. Our Tuesday location we do have weekly pick up for our full share our Thursday location this year is still every other week as we have 2 locations and we're not capable of doing them at the same time next year we will be switching so that we'll be doing both Thursdays every week and our c.s.a. members will still be picking up every week so right now if you're a Thursday full share you're getting a double box every other week if you're a Tuesday full share you're getting your regular box that makes sense Ok that makes sense Ok. Very good Hey thank you so much Joshua deicing or. This media was brought to you by audio 1st a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse if you would like to listen to more sermons leave a visit w w w audio verse or.

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