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6. How to Reach Mormons & Jehovah’s Witness Using Their Literature

Michael Tuazon

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Michael Tuazon

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  • January 3, 2015
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     Let’s begin, I’m juicing and putting a lot of information especially into this last session as we talk about the Jehovah Witness and our good friends the Mormons. Let’s pray.

     Father in Heaven, I want to thank you so much for the opportunity to share some of the things that I’ve learned and the things that I’ve been able to do. I just pray that someone in this room will gain a blessing, that somehow this information will help them when they meet a Jehovah Witness, maybe on the plane tomorrow or a Mormon who will come to their door sometime in 2015. I pray that this information will help us to reach our dear brothers and sisters in Christ, many who are so sincere, many who love you so much, many who are living their faith better than we are. So I pray you will send your Spirit here in Jesus name, amen.

     Let’s get right into it the Jehovah Witness, let’s get into some of the facts. Again, I shared with you all, if you want this information, I’ll be more than happy to give you all of this information, all the power points all the handouts, all the information that I have, it’s yours right? There is no copyright, just right to copy, so it’s all yours  

     Jehovah Witness began in 1872, their founder was Charles Taze Russell.

     Their inspired writings are also known as the New World Translation and the Watchtower.

     We’re going to get into some of their writings later on.

     Their worship centers are called kingdom halls.

     Jehovah Witness as a people, their active members are called publishers.  If you’re a member you’re called a publisher.

     They don’t celebrate holidays, including father’s day and mother’s day. They say that promotes self-confidence. They do not celebrate birthdays.

     And you cannot pray for a Jehovah Witness. So if you knock on someone’s door and they are a Jehovah Witness and you say can I pray for you, that is an insult. No you cannot pray for me. You are in darkness. That is how they view it.

     Prior to 1933 Jehovah Witness used to be called Bible students, that was their religious name, then they changed their names to Jehovah Witness.

     Now here’s something interesting.  How many Jehovah Witness do you think there are today? There are about 17-18 million Seventh-day Adventists, just to give you a perspective.  There are 7.7 million. Isn’t that fascinating that there are roughly 17 million Seventh-day Adventist and there are only 7 million Jehovah Witness, but when you knock on someone’s door, who do they mistake you for? That tells you something about what they’re doing. That tells you something about their faith.

     Now here is something interesting as well. Jehovah Witness, they baptize sometimes the most amount of people per year, but they also have the highest turnover, that’s why they only have about 7.8 million.

     Their biggest holiday is called The Supper of Christ. This if for their inactive Jehovah Witness and people who associate with Jehovah Witness and about 19.5 million attend that. And it’s usually 19.5 million attend that, and what I mean by that is; online you can partake of it or you consider yourself part of Jehovah Witness. If you count the backslidden members or those who associate themselves with Jehovah Witness, there are more like 20 million. But they are so good at kicking you off their books that currently there are only 7.7 million active publishers.

Here are some interesting things Jehovah Witness as a people are forbidden to do:

serve in the military

buy Girl Scout cookies, this is from their website

serve on a jury

speak to former members, someone backslides, you cannot talk to them

purchase Christian products, that’s another reason why it is very difficult to canvas them

read Christian literature

have friends who are not Jehovah Witness, there’s more

salute the flag

stand for the national anthem

own a flag

interpret the Bible without the watchtower explaining it

join any sports team, no varsity teams for you

join school plays

attend a funeral of an ex- Jehovah Witness

     This was taken from online from their website, all the different things that you are forbidden to do.

Jehovah Witness as a people must:

go door to door every week

attend 5 kingdom hall meetings per week. We as Adventist's, it’s hard for us to attend Sabbath School and Divine service. For them, they must attend 5 services a week.

men cannot have beards

must study the watchtower 6 months before baptism

Now let’s get into some of their beliefs.

There is one God, in person. There is no trinity.

The Holy Spirit is a force, who is not alive.

Jehovah’s first creation was his son.

Jesus was raised a spirit.

Jesus was a perfect man, not God in the flesh.

Jesus died on a stake not a cross because a cross is of course a pagan symbol.

     This is again telling you what they believe.

They believe that in 1914 Jesus began his invisible rule on the earth.

     By the way, they really believed that the end of the world would be in 1914, but when it wasn’t the end of the world they kind of changed things up, they said no, no, no what really happened was Jesus began his invisible rule.

     Now some people have the notion that we a Seventh-day Adventist made the same mistake, they say, wait, wait, wait you guys said the end of the world would happen in 1844, that didn’t happen so you make up this investigative judgment thing. What’s the difference? We were not an organized religion. We had the Millerites, right? A bunch of people who believed Jesus would come, but it wasn’t Seventh-day Adventist as a church who had this belief and all the sudden we were wrong, no, no, no that didn’t happen.

Jehovah Witness believe:

In order to be saved you have to become a witness.

Only 144,000 Jehovah Witness will go to heaven. The rest, the great multitude, will live on a restored planet earth.

     You know how we believe that when Jesus comes everyone goes to heaven, then after the 1000 years, where do we all go from there? Planet earth, the New Jerusalem. For them it’s different, the Elites, the Navy Seals of Jehovah Witness’, they get to go to heaven and dwell with God, but if you’re not so good, you’re kind of average Joe Schmoe, and you maybe only went out a couple hours a week, you’re not a part of the 144,000, you’re not good enough, so you get to stay here on earth, that’s what they believe.

Jesus came to earth to share the true name of God, that was his number one purpose, Jehovah.

I’m giving you again their beliefs.

Their most important prophecy is found in Daniel chapter 4. The 2,520 prophecy is what they believe. It deals with 2,520.

The start date is 607bc, Jerusalem was conquered by the Romans and the end date is 1914.

Here is a chart of their beliefs.

     It started in 607bc, 2,520 years you get to 1914 this is when the end of the world would happen. That didn’t happen so that’s when they changed things up and said oh, this is when Jesus would have his invisible rule on the earth.  

Here are some false prophecies by Jehovah Witness.

1914 they thought Armageddon would take place, that didn’t happen

1915 God’s kingdom would be established on earth

1925 God’s kingdom established on earth and Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would be resurrected

     None of those things happened.

Their three main literature of the church. Of course the scripture –

The New World Translation. Many times the word THE LORD has been changed to Jehovah. Then they have

The Watchtower and they also have

The Wake

 

     Now here is something interesting, we as Seventh-day Adventist have an advantage.   If you have been coming to the seminars every single religion whether it is Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam we talked about an advantage we have as Seventh-day Adventists.

Do you know what the advantages are, do you know what we share in common?

We both believe that Michael the Arch Angel is Jesus Christ, we share that in common.

We share the same when it comes to the state of the dead.

We share the same when it comes to hell fire. For them they don’t believe there is a literal place called hell that you go to right now. Most of Christendom believe that, but just like Adventist’s believe that at the very end, what is hell fire? That’s when Jesus comes, at the very last, when he comes and that the wicked  cannot be in the presence of God, and there’s this fire, and it’s not forever and you’re not burring eternally, but it’s really being absent from the presence of God and you burn up.  

They also apply the day for a year principle in prophecy.

NWT: Numbers 14:34 According to the number of the days that you spied out the land, 40 days,+ a day for a year, a day for a year, you will answer for your errors 40 years,+ for you will know what it means to oppose me.*

NWT Ezekiel 4:6 And you must complete them. “Then for a second time you will lie down, on your right side, and you will carry the guilt of the house of Judah+ for 40 days. A day for a year, a day for a year, is what I have given you., they apply that.

They are students of Bible prophecy.

They believe that Catholicism is a false system of worship.

     A lot of similarities with our friends the Jehovah Witness’.

 

Now let me give you some tips, about what NOT to do when witnessing to them. Ready? Tip number one. Do not, I repeat

1. Do not bring up the trinity. That is the first mistake. You bring that up and game over, game over. If you bring that up, it’s over, that’s like you going to a Seventh-day Adventist and saying, you know, there’s no such thing as the Sabbath. Think about that. If someone went to your door and someone said, hey, I can prove to you that there is no Sabbath. In your head, I’m going to prove this guy wrong, right? I’m going to show him, that’s what I know, that’s what I believe, that’s what I’ve studied. My name says Seventh-day Adventist. For them if you say I’m going to show you there’s a Trinity, it’s over. The other thing,

2. Don’t talk to them about Jesus being Jehovah. If you talk to them about Jesus being Jehovah game over, again they won’t believe it they won’t want anything to do with you because in their mind you are not enlightened.

     We have to go through the back door. How do you witness to a Jehovah’s Witness? I’m going to give you some tips here, and I’ve tried this.

     Three years ago I was on a plane Southwest Airlines flying from Ontario to Tucson Arizona. Sitting by him, we sat down and we started to talk. I found out he was a Jehovah’s Witness and I started to ask him some questions. Here’s one of the questions you can ask him.  You can say, hey, I like the book of Daniel.  I’m scripting you a how to, alright? They’re going to be happy that you like the book of Daniel. Why? Their main prophecy is in the book of Daniel.

  1. I love the book of Daniel.

They perk up. Then you say,

  1. You know what? I’ve actually been looking into some things that Jehovah Witness teach.  

They’re going to perk up again because usually people think that Jehovah Witness are fanatical.

  1. You know what?  Daniel chapter 4 Nebuchadnezzar’s vision, the seven years, that’s interesting how you apply that seven years and you apply the day for the year principle.

They’re like yeah, yeah, we apply it and we go from 607bc to 1914.  Here’s the clincher.

  1. Let me show you a prophecy that is found in Daniel chapter 8.  You go to Daniel 8:14.

NWT Daniel 8:14  So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”

Unto how many days? 2,300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Now this was such an important dream, what happened to Daniel after this dream? He fainted. Then after that he didn’t get the interpretation, so what did he do after that? He pleaded with God. God please show me the interpretation of that dream. You remember the story, right?

Ask your Jehovah Witness friend this,

  1. Why is it you apply the day for a year principle for Daniel chapter 4 but you don’t apply it for Daniel chapter 8?  

Every single time I’ve asked them that, they’re stumped. Well, I’ll be, I don’t know why we do that. That’s usually how they react.

     Let me give you the next step. So my job is not to convert them on the spot. I’m not going to say it’s not going to happen, but the chances are very slim of that happening. But you can make them think and search the scriptures.

6. Now here’s the other way to get them. Now obviously if you talk about Jesus, that Jesus is Jehovah, closed door. But if you take another approach and you talk about the Holy Spirit, that’s your back door. Because they believe the Holy Spirit is a force, he’s not a person. So if you show them

7. Hey you know what? I’ve been studying the Holy Spirit and let me show you some verses, you guys ready? Let me show you some verses, let’s go to

NWT Acts 8:29 So the spirit said to Philip: “Go over and approach this chariot.”   

“Then the Spirit” what’s that next word? Wow, can a force speak? “then the Spirit said”  what did he say? Did he speak gibberish? No it said intelligent words, it says:

Let me give you another one, by the way, I usually like to do this with their Bible, I say let me see your New World Translation. Don’t use your Bible because if you use your Bible it’s going to close the door. So just say, let me use your Bible, and all of this applies.

NWT 1 Corinthians 12.11 But all these operations are performed by the very same spirit, distributing to each one respectively just as it wills.

 the Spirit imparts gifts. The Spirit gives gifts.

NWT John 14:26-27 But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you.  27 I leave you peace; I give you my peace.+ I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear.

NWT John 16:13 However, when that one* comes, the spirit of the truth,+ he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come

The Spirit will guide, it gives characteristics to the Spirit as if he’s a person, because he is a person, of course.

Let’s go to our next passage of scripture, this is the best one. Romans 8:26-27.   

I was in Lanai Hawaii, is where Bill Gates got married. Larry Oracle just bought it for some ridiculous amount of money.  I was there studying with some Jehovah Witness with my student. When Souls West did an evangelist series there, Romans 8:26-27, we were sitting across from two of the so called top Jehovah Witness’ in the whole island, we shared these verses and they were stumped. This wasn’t just some of their average people, this was some of their top people.  Romans 8:26-27 listen to what the Bible says:

NWT Romans 8:26-27 In like manner, the spirit also joins in with help for our weakness;+ for the problem is that we do not know what we should pray for as we need to, but the spirit itself pleads for us with unuttered* groanings.     27 But the one who searches the hearts+ knows what the meaning of the spirit is, because it is pleading in harmony with God for the holy ones. 

I show them this one and I ask, How can an active force make intercession? That doesn’t make any sense. If here’s God, and here’s me and there’s someone who is interceding, that can’t be an active force. That has to be a whole different person.

And these witnesses understood that. Their answer to me was we don’t know how to answer that, we’ll continue to study. That’s what they said.

Now I’m going to give you the last thing you can share with them. This is in regards to if all your bridges are burned and you have to say that Jesus is Lord, this is how you do it, okay?

  1. Show them Isaiah 43:10-12 and then Acts 4:10-12.

I went online and took screen shots of the Jehovah Witness Bible, so this is their version.

Isaiah 43:10-12 notice this, let’s just go to vs 11 for the sake of time

NWT Isaiah 43:10-12 “You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you.

I am Jehovah besides me there is no Savior.  So according to Isaiah verse 43:11 it says I am Jehovah and besides me there is no [what?] Savior, so who is the one who is going to save you? Jehovah, right this one is pretty easy. Now you go to Acts, now this is their Bible, their own Bible. Now if you go to Acts 4:10-12 and watch this.

NWT Acts 4:10-12  let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·rene′, whom you executed on a stake but whom God raised up from the dead, by means of him this man stands here healthy in front of you. 11 This is ‘the stone that was treated by you builders as of no account that has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.

Did you get it? Major contradiction because is Isaiah 43 there’s no one that’s going to get saved except Jehovah. Acts 4 it says there’s no one that’s going to get saved except through Jesus Christ. So we must conclude then that Jehovah equals Jesus.

     I save this one as the ace in my sleeve, because if you do that one right away and it’s over, so I just wait. I do the Holy Spirit thing, I go through the prophecy thing, and then finally if we’re getting nowhere, then let me just show you this one last one.  It’s like a last punch and then run away, right? If you can get your hands on this book which actually I have in digital format, which I can give to you, there’s this book that’s an excellent book called “Our Friend the Jehovah Witness” by E B Price. He goes through how to witness to Jehovah Witness. He used to be a Witness and is a convert to Adventism. He breaks it down, he’s from Australia, if you can get your hands on this book, it’s the best book on Jehovah Witness. I got a lot of the materials, by the way, the reason why, when you say the word Trinity they don’t think of God the Father, the Holy Spirit or Jesus, they think of this pagan symbol. That’s what they think of when they hear Trinity, so that’s why you don’t want to use the word Trinity, because that’s what they think, they think of this pagan symbol.

All right let’s get to Mormons now, our friends the Mormons.

The official name of Mormons are The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints.

They began in the 1840’s. Their founder is Joseph Smith.

There are 12.2 million Mormons today. Adventism has more than Jehovah Witness and we also have more than The Church of the Latter Day Saints.

They are the largest tithing church in America.

Their inspired writings include:

The King James Version,

by the way if you’re going to witness to them make sure your Bible is the KJV, not the NKJV not the ESV, not the NASB. King James Version is the only Bible version that they accept.

The Book of Mormon,

The Pearl of Great Price,

Doctrine and Covenant.

Those four are their inspired writings.

     Their worship centers are called Wards.

  1. They are family oriented.
  2. Monday nights they have what’s called family home evening, or family night. If you like to canvas Mormons like I do, you tell them hey this is a great one for story time, because you can use that for your family night reading on Monday night. They go, wow you know about that? You go, Yeah, Monday night, that’s a great conversation starter. Tell them how much you appreciate their family night, that’s Monday night.
  3. Burning of the bosom, refers to conversion, so if someone says I had a burning of the bosom, that means they got converted.  another term,
  4. Jack Mormon refers to nominal Mormons, like we have nominal Adventists they have nominal Mormons. So if you are not a faithful Mormon they call you jack Mormons.

Bishops are pastors or leaders of the Ward.

Mormons do not drink, smoke, chew tobacco, they wear modest clothing,

They are not allowed to buy and sell on the Sabbath. I don’t know if you knew that one, but their Sabbath of course is Sunday.

They have to serve two years as a missionary.

 They are not allowed in the temple unless you have special privileges. By the way of course, there are the Mormon Wards which are their churches and their temples are the ones that look like millions and millions of dollars, usually all white and have the angel of Maroni that’s all gold on the top, that’s the temple.

Mormons are ignorant regarding most of their teachings as well. So when it comes to their own teachings, they are familiar with the Book of Mormon, they not are familiar with the scriptures, and they don’t know much about The Pearl of Great Price, or Doctrine of Covenants.

Mormon beliefs:

They are monotheistic,

They believe Jesus is a created being and he is brothers with Lucifer.

They believe that the fall of mankind was a planned blessing from God.

They believe in order to be saved you need to be a baptized Mormon. That’s of course why you have, those of you who convert to Mormonism, you have to have baptism of the dead for your family members who didn’t have the blessing of being a Mormon.

Now they have something interesting regarding about the afterlife. If you are Mormon, regarding the afterlife, you believe that your spirit will either be in paradise or a spirit prison. Unbelievers and sinners go into the spirit prison, but you can be bailed out by the merits of the living, and also by good works and repentance.  After the final judgment many will be assigned to one of the three heavens where you must continue to grow for all eternity.

They have the 13 articles of faith which is very similar to our 28 fundamental beliefs.

They believe in prophets, pastors, teachers and evangelists.

They believe in the Bible, and I’m quoting here, this is exactly taken from their articles of faith. They believe in the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. We believe the book of Mormon to be the word of God. That’s what they say, I quoted that one.

     Let me go off on a tangent real quick by saying this. This is why I believe that Seventh-day Adventism has the truth. Yes we have Ellen G White, yes we have the Spirit of Prophecy but our Spirit of Prophecy, Ellen G White writings, what does it do, does it uphold the Bible or does it devalue the Bible? It upholds the Bible. Whereas, if you go to Jehovah Witness, their writings devalue the Bible.  You must read the Watchtower in order for you to understand the scriptures; or you cannot read the Bible unless you have the Book of Mormon helping to illustrate, or watch out for mistranslations.

     Adventism for me, in all my searching is the only religion that has a prophet that upholds the Bible to the highest standards. Because think about it, if you are a prophet do you want people to read your writings, or do you want people to read someone else’s writings? You want people to read your writings. Right? If you’re a so called prophet. So, many people who say they’re prophets they devalue everything that’s out there.

I’m going to spend a little bit of time with the Book of Mormon, then we’re going tell you how to witness to them, then we’re going to close.

Here’s the Book of Mormon timeline.

     Here’s the basic timeline, the red is the Bible and the blue is the Book of Mormon. This is where the overlap is. We start with the creation. Abraham, Moses, birth of Christ, the apostles are martyred. The Bible kind of ends where the apostles are martyred, right?

     If you look at the Book of Mormon there’s an overlap with the Bible. Lehi’s family depart Jerusalem for the America’s right before the birth of Christ. The resurrected Christ visits the Americas and the Book of Mormon is compiled in about 385 and then Joseph Smith finds it and translates it in 1829, so that’s the Book of Mormon.

     Let me give you a summary, the Book of Mormon is a historical record of Gods dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas starting in 608bc and goes to about 400ad. The story of the Book of Mormon begins with a man named Lehi, a Hebrew prophet who fled Jerusalem with his family and several others at the instruction of the Lord. Lehi and his sons built a ship and sailed from the Arabian to the peninsula to the Americas in approximately 600bc. Lehi’s family grew after they arrived in America. His family eventually split into two groups known as the Neophytes and the Laminites. The Lord continued to call prophets in America and they recorded their teaching on metal sheets or plates and passed them on from generation to generation. Then comes the climax, the crowning event of the Book of Mormon comes when the savior Jesus Christ visited these ancient inhabitants in the Americas in the year 34ad. So understand Jesus rose from the grave, and then what did he do? He came to America. That’s what happened. After his resurrection and ascension, he taught the same gospel he preached in ancient Jerusalem. He healed the sick the lame, the blind and all who were afflicted. The effect of his visit was so profound that for the next 200 years the people lived in peace.

     About 322ad a prophet named Mormon compiled a history from many ancient records written by prophets into one set of golden plates, the faithful Christians among them eventually died out but not before the record was safely hidden away and God guided Joseph Smith to these plates in 1827. All of these pictures and everything that you see right there is all taken from the official Mormon website. So this is not something that has been conjured up, it is their official statement, what they say is their official history.

     Now let me give you some problems with the Book of Mormon. I wish I had time to go through all of them, but we’d be here for another session of GYC for another 5 days, so let’s go through a few of them.

1 Nephi 2:5-6   5 And he came down by the borders near the shore of the aRed Sea; and he traveled in the wilderness in the borders which are nearer the Red Sea; and he did travel in the wilderness with his family, which consisted of my mother, Sariah, and my elder brothers, who were Laman, Lemuel, and Sam.   6 And it came to pass that when he had traveled three days in the wilderness, he pitched his tent in a avalley by the side of a briver of water.

 It’s funny because it says there’s a river that goes to the Red Sea.

That’s not true if you look at the geographical record, there is no river that goes to the Red Sea.

1 Nephi 4:9   9 And I beheld his asword, and I drew it forth from the sheath thereof; and the hilt thereof was of pure gold, and the workmanship thereof was exceedingly fine, and I saw that the blade thereof was of the most precious steel.

 it talks about steel.

Now the problem with that is steel did not exist yet. But this passage according to the Book of Mormon is taking place about 900bc.

     Then you have Ether 9:19 talks about elephants and horses in Americas.

Ether 9:19   19 And they also had ahorses, and asses, and there were elephants and cureloms and cumoms; all of which were useful unto man, and more especially the elephants and cureloms and cumoms.

That’s not true, does anyone know when horses came to America?  The Spanish, introduced horses to the Americas in the 1800’s, I believe.

     Now here’s probably the grossest of all errors it’s found in 2 Nephi 2:21-22 and goes thru 2:25. Basically it talks about the fall of mankind being a planned blessing, that God wanted it to happen. It goes on verse 23 and it says, and they would have had no children.

2 Nephi 2:21-22    21 And the days of the children of amen were prolonged, according to the bwill of God, that they might crepent while in the flesh; wherefore, their state became a state of dprobation, and their time was lengthened, according to the commandments which the Lord God gave unto the children of men. For he gave commandment that all men must repent; for he showed unto all men that they were elost, because of the transgression of their parents.   22 And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end.  23 And they would have had no achildren; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no bjoy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no csin.   24 But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who aknoweth all things.   25 aAdam bfell that men might be; and men care, that they might have djoy.

     So if there had been no fall there would have been no children. Wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence with no joy. So what they are saying is that having no sin, brought no joy. Pretty bad if you think about it. For they knew no misery, doing no good because they knew no sin. So behold all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knows all things. So again it talks about the blessing of sin, that’s what the Book of Mormon says.  On this PowerPoint I also have a bunch of doctrinal contradictions with the Book of Mormon.  Their other one such as The Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine of Covenants, we don’t have time to get to all of those things.

     Now let’s get into how to witness to them. Let me first give you the Adventist advantage.  What kind of advantage do we have as Adventists?

1.        we both believe in prophets

2.        we both keep the Sabbath

3.        we believe in the importance of modesty

4.        we believe that the body is the temple of God

5.        the importance of the family

     So we as Seventh-day Adventist have so much in common.  

Many times when I go to the door and someone is a Mormon, I say,

Oh you are a Mormon? That’s awesome. You know, let me tell you something,

I really respect how you believe in family values,

I respect that you keep the Sabbath

I respect that you believe the body is the temple of God and you don’t drink

     I share these things to them, and they say, wow, you know about those things.  I say yes, and I believe those things as well. By the way if you canvas on a Sunday in Salt Lake City everyone is Mormon and they aren’t allowed to buy, so you tell them, these books we leave as a love offering, that’s what we tell them, and we can usually get a lot of books out that way.  By the way we do send out canvassing teams to Salt Lake City every summer. That’s a beautiful thing, we send out teams to them.  

Here are some tips:

Do not argue with them,

Do not ask them about their holy underwear. Yes, it’s true, but I really don’t have time to get into that, but don’t ask them about that, it’s an insult.

Don’t talk about the masonic symbols in their temples. I’ve actually had a chance to go through a temple. If you have a chance to go through a Mormon temple, do so, it’s amazing. What happens is every time they open a brand new temple, they open it up to the public for the first month, and so if you know they’re building one, get in line. Make sure you can get a chance to go through those temples.  

Don’t discuss their past like racism, polygamy, all the controversial things.

Here’s how you can witness to them. The first one is interesting and I have this directly from their website:

     Talk to the about the Sabbath. This is from their website, they have in their manual an entire section on keeping the Sabbath. So if you just talk to them about what you already know about the Sabbath then you will have an opportunity to share with them about something that you already do. Now here is something interesting. It says before the time of Christ the Sabbath was observed on the 7th day of the week. But following Christ’s resurrection, most Christians have observed the Sabbath on the 1st day of the week. Now here’s the other interesting thing they believe that many of these Christian churches were an apostasy, so they’re kind of picking and choosing. They like, well, we don’t really want to believe that Christians in so many of the other things, but they adopted Sunday worship.

     So if you let them know, say hey, just so you know you’re following something that is pagan. This Sunday worship thing, there is no Biblical proof for that.  I know a lot of people who’ve had success in talking to them about the Sabbath and Sunday.

     Let me give you what I’ve been able to do, and I’ll give you the story about this. My friend, the best man at my wedding, his name is Shane.  He went to Mission Hills, he went to Amazing Facts, he went to a number of Bible Colleges. He served as a Bible worker and he was thinking, how can I witness to these Mormons? He came up with an idea, and I’m going to share it with you, I’ve tried it. This plan is bullet proof, I’ve tried this. He basically executed this plan to perfection and he executed it so well that the two guys he was witnessing to, they had to send one of them back to Salt Lake for reprogramming, because of how well this next study tip that I’m going to share with you.  So here’s how you do it.

     A Mormon knocks on your door. You open it up and say: Hi, how’s it going? Conversation, be polite to them. Then you say,

     You know, I’m only interested in talking to you if you believe in prophets after the Bible. Guess what they’re going to do? They’re going to get really excited, because how many Christians believe in prophets after the Bible? After the cannon, hardly any right? Then you let them know if you believe in prophets after the Bible we can study.

     Then you sit down with them, and talk with them. Does anyone know what the most important Bible study is that they have with you? They establish the spirit of prophecy. They establish prophets and then they introduce you to the Book of Mormon. They say this is better than the Bible. So when they say that they believe there are prophets outside of the Bible, you say, perfect I believe that too.

Then you listen to them a little bit, then you say,

Can I share with you just a couple of things,

This is what I’ve been learning and I just want to show it to you. You ready,

let go to Amos 3:7 take them to Amos 3:7. The Bible says: Surely the Jehovah will do [how much?] this is important,

NWT Amos 3:7  For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.

     So you establish with your new friends, you say God will do nothing unless he reveals it first to his prophets.  Then you say, I’ve been studying and in the Bible there is something called predict and fulfill. So for example,

     The flood, who were the prophets who predicted the flood?  Enoch and Methuselah. Enoch and Methuselah predicted it, Noah fulfilled it. Let me give you another one, every single time there is an event there is a prophet that predicts, there’s a prophet that fulfils.

     The exodus who predicated the exodus? Abraham, remember the 400 years, the 430. So Abraham predicts the exodus, who is the one who fulfills it? Moses. Let’s go to the next one.  

     What about Jesus, coming the first time who predicts it? Plenty of people, Isaiah, Micah, minor prophets, we have a lot of people, who is the one who fulfills? John the Baptist, so there is a prophet every single time, predicts and fulfills.

     Now you know the beautiful thing about Seventh-day Adventist, all we have to do is live up to our message. Guess where we’re going to go. Dan 8:14, again.if we can just stick to our message we’ll reach so many people.  

NWT Daniel 8:14  So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”

     Dan 8.14 you show them the 2,300 days started in 457bc.

We’re all Adventists, we know how to break down the 2300 days prophecy, amen? You break that down to them.

     Daniel was the prophet that predicted it, it starts in 457 and goes all the way to 1844, who is the prophet that’s going to fulfill it.  This is when they get excited. Why? Guess who died in 1844?  Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith died in 1844.  At this moment, my friend who told me when he was studying with these two Mormon missionaries, the guy who was looking at this was like, it’s Joseph Smith, it’s Joseph Smith.

     My best friend Shane said to him, hey, I’ll tell you what, lets study next week, because I know you guys have another study for me, if you can show me anywhere in all your writings, in Joseph Smith’s writings, that he  fulfilled and talked about the investigative judgment, I will be a Mormon. They came back the next week and what do you think happened? Empty handed. And my friend said I’m sorry, looks like he’s not the prophet. Someone has to be the prophet right? And he pulls out the Great Controversy, shows how a woman can be a prophet. Anna is a prophet in Luke 2. Goes through and says, as you can see right here, here’s the chart, here’s Ellen White, she also called out the religions at that time that were in apostasy, she called those things out. By the way that’s the main belief in the book of Mormon. That’s the main reason for Mormonism is that they were to call out the religions that were in apostasy. You can say this book calls out the religions in apostasy and shows what is the true church. That guy at this moment said, she’s a prophet, she’s a prophet. This Mormon was saying Ellen White’s a prophet. Of course they have the elder and you have the junior elder, that’s how they send them out, you know, two by twos. They had to grab that guy and take him back to Salt Lake City for reprogramming.

     I hope you guys learned something during this time. It’s been a pleasure to be able to share with you. Let’s go ahead and pray as we close.

     Father in Heaven, thank you for the things that we can learn I pray that this seminar, short as it was helped to create a burden in our hearts for your friends, the children, the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons. I pray that somehow someone in this room can reach them.  I pray that there will be millions that will be saved into your kingdom, I pray that you will save us most importantly, in Jesus name, amen.

     This message was recorded at the GYC 2014 conference, At the Cross. In Phoenix AZ. GYC a supporting ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist church, seeks to inspire young people to be Bible based, Christ centered and soul winning Christians. To download and purchase other resources like this, visit us online at www.GYCweb.ORG.

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