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Inverse, 3rd Quarter 2021: Sexuality

Justin Kim

Israel Ramos

Jonathan Walter

Callie Williams

01 Counter-Cultural

Sebastien Braxton

Sikhu Daco

02 Naked

03 One of Two Gifts

04 Incredible Sex

05 Marital Sexuality: Oneness

06 Marital Sexuality: Twoness

07 Marital Sexuality: Sameness of Nature

08 Marital Sexuality: Difference

09 Interconnectedness

10 Pre-Marital Sexuality

11 When Things Go Wrong

12 Beyond Sexuality

13 Purity

Not physically naked, but spiritually naked is the topic for this episode of Inverse.

Coming to you from Silver Spring, Maryland, welcome to Inverse, a Bible-based conversation on life principles, contemporary issues, and thought-provoking perspectives.

Now, here's your host, Justin Kim, with Inverse.

My name is Justin Kim and in the studio we have my friends Sebastian, Kelly, and Siku.

And we are talking about the topic of biblical sexuality.

It is a sensitive subject matter so if you have minors in the area we're going to give you a little bit of a heads up and you may want to clear out the room in the car or switch to something else and come back to us later but viewer discretion is advised.

On our episode we're looking at the concept of spiritual nakedness.

So this is our episode's title, Being Naked.

And we are in a arc, 13 week arc, on looking at the topic of biblical sexuality.

So if you're here for some other nefarious purpose, you can switch to another channel.

Heavenly Father, we are so privileged to be able to study your word.

And Lord, this topic is perhaps uncomfortable in ways that it needs to be and in ways maybe that it doesn't.

But Lord, we just pray that the Spirit of God that Jesus promised would guide us into all truth as we converse today is our prayer in Jesus' name, amen.

We're going to go to scripture, but before we actually get there, I'm going to ask Callie if you can kind of, we actually had a great episode last episode, and if you can kind of give us a recap, because a lot of that will impact what we're talking about today.

And if you've been watching, this is your first episode here and you're like, whoa, what are these guys talking about?

The backgrounds, you know, it's got this, you know, pink stuff going on, like this kind of, it is, this is a very risque subject, but we believe it's very important because scripture talks about it.

And what are some highlights that you remember from our last episode?

Yeah, so the first episode we talked about how we're all influenced by scripts.

So this idea that there are explicitly stated but also not so explicitly stated rules of how we talk about certain things, how we hold ourselves, and even about sexuality.

So there are scripts that we're told by social media or by movies or by people we're related to or by our friends, but also there are scripts that are found in scripture.

And ultimately we came to the conclusion that we shouldn't rely on ourselves or even things that we see in the world as our standards of what we should think is the proper script, but instead we should evaluate all of them by the Word of God.

Sexuality is 1 of those topics that once you see in scripture that you see it really everywhere, and that sexuality is a very, it's a sacred topic to talk about.

And so this is the premise that we're coming from.

We don't want to take this topic lightly or frivolously, and we want, there are some real-time applications and lessons that we can come away with.

Siku, I know our verse is Psalms 139, but I'd like to switch gears and go to another verse where we find our episode title coming from.

And I think that would probably be better that that set up our conversation here.

In Genesis chapter 3, verse 6 and 7, and see if you can read for us, and then we'll go to Psalms 139 also.

Verse 6, it says, so when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes and a tree desirable to make 1 wise, she took of its fruit and ate.

She also gave to her husband with her and he ate.

Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they knew that they were naked and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

Okay, so let's talk about this verse a little bit, spend some time here.

I don't know about you guys when but the first time I read this first when I was a little kid I was just like you know, the giggles come out and we're like, and just trying to like, how, how does, what, what?

Like, it's just like, here's a huge disconnect, right?

Yeah, well, I think something that's interesting at the very beginning, in, in verse 7, it doesn't say that their eyes were open and they became naked.

It's that their eyes were open, they realized they were naked.

So there was something, it wasn't something that physically happened of their nakedness.

It was something that was fine became not fine.

And so the idea of nakedness too is just like, it's okay to be open even, and just using the word nakedness loosely to talk about like, you know, sharing vulnerability and things like that.

It's okay to be that way unless you want to hide something for whatever reason, a good reason, bad reason, whatever.

And so for them, it's like they were open and it was fine, but they realized that to them, it was no longer fine because of what happened in this experience.

Just to buttress Callie's point in chapter 2, verse 25, I mean, it's stated explicitly, Genesis 2, 25, it says, and they were both naked, the man and his wife, but then it says, and were not ashamed.

So it wasn't the physical reality of being naked because it already said that they were naked, But what happened in verse 7 of chapter 3 was not at a physical level per se, but it was as a result of what happened in the previous verses.

They had this realization that, you know, they had an encounter that led them to a different metaphysical experience.

So on a very literal level, we find in other passages that they were clothed with glory and what that looks like.

But on a spiritual level, this is, this is just, this, this transcends just a, they're not wearing clothes, right?

I think that's the point we're trying to get to.

When the Bible says at the very beginning of the verse, it says then the eyes of both of them were opened, right?

So this is not suggesting that they were blind, right?

So there's a recognition that the author is trying to communicate to us that there was a revelation that just took place as a result of this sin.

And so, this nakedness as a revelation wasn't so much that they realized that they were naked as much as it's contrasting that verse 25 that Sikhu was talking about.

So, the eyes being opened, it's like, well, they knew that they were naked, but then they went to sow fig leaves.

So, you see the contrast between being naked and not ashamed, being naked, knowing you're naked, and being like, well, we need to sow coverings.

So, there's obviously a feeling of, you know, as Callie used the word, exposure that has come from the result of sin in the human experience.

It's completely changed our relationship with vulnerability.

It's completely changed our relationship with being exposed.

Let me ask you, because these concepts of shame is emerging from this conversation, right?

And how does that differ from, I'm sure that The Bible doesn't talk about it, but you see evidence of it.

We have some of the concepts of secrecy, and it's a very comical passage in a sense, like God who knows everything, who sees everything, and then he's hiding in a bush, you know, some boxwood bush and then he's like here and he's hiding and God's like, where are you?

And he answers like, I'm just like, this is not making sense on any rational level.

So this is not, this has nothing to do with the physical world.

This isn't hide and go seek, but there is a, there's a lot of spiritual firsts that are coming out, spiritual problems, there's a diagnosis of shame, of guilt, of secrecy, of privacy.

So tell me more about this, Callie, and then Sebastian.

So shame and guilt are sometimes used interchangeably, but they're not the same thing.

Guilt is focused more outward, like I did something bad and this action or this experience hurt someone or things like that.

And it's kind of like, this is something I did, but it's not who I am.

So I did something, now I am a terrible person and I feel very terrible inwardly.

1 is more ontological and 1 is more existential.

And when you're, when you're looking at this, the very idea that they were covering themselves, right?

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09 Interconnectedness

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Inverse, 3rd Quarter 2021: Sexuality

03 One of Two Gifts

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Inverse, 3rd Quarter 2021: Sexuality

12 Beyond Sexuality

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Inverse, 3rd Quarter 2021: Sexuality

01 Counter-Cultural

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Inverse, 3rd Quarter 2021: Sexuality

13 Purity

27m

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07 Marital Sexuality: Sameness of Nature

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Inverse, 3rd Quarter 2021: Sexuality

08 Marital Sexuality: Difference

27m

InVerse 3rd Quarter 2023: Leviticus

12 Purity

29m

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07-Process of Discipleship - Plant

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InVerse, 4th Quarter 2020: Education

05 Unselfishness and True Development

28m

InVerse, 2nd Quarter 2019: Family Seasons

02-The Choices We Make

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InVerse 3rd Quarter 2024: Stories that Transform

04 Caught in the Crossfire

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