GYC 2025: Seeing the Invisible

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Answering the Angels

Kameron DeVasher

01 Why Is There Evil in the Universe?

02 How Can an Honest God Defeat a Lying Devil?

03 Why Didn’t Satan Die at Calvary, Too?

04 How Will God Destroy the Wicked Fairly and Finally?

05 Will Heaven Be Safe With Us in It?

This is Answering the Angels, now session 2.

How can an honest God defeat a lying devil?

He was cast the earth that serpent of old called the devil and Satan who deceives the whole world.

But before we do anything, let's start with a word of prayer.

Heavenly Father, again, we thank you so much for the opportunity to be here in Orlando.

Thank you for this great controversy theme that we can dive into and for your word giving us the answers we need.

Bless us now as we seek to understand it and apply it in our lives.

Very brief summary from our last presentation.

How can there be bad in God's good universe, essentially?

And we noticed that God did not create the devil.

And from that then God had to respond somehow.

I mean, he could have just not responded and let the whole thing go crazy, but no, he did respond by casting him out.

The central passage we looked at, by the way, if you ever want to do this Bible study with anyone, it's actually a very simple study.

You start with Matthew 13 and go through the parable.

You got Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28, look behind the scenes.

You can see Revelation chapter 12 verses 7 through 9 where he casts him out of heaven.

And then you go to the, you add some great controversy in there, a little, I mean not great controversy, but just a little bit of spirit prophecy, but really not much.

It's just, I really want people to see that this concept of the great controversy and God's response to it is not like a few words from the Bible and then books and books from Ellen White where she made it.

This is a Biblical concept that simply Ellen White comments on helps clarify, but it's deeply rooted squarely on scripture.

So let's be clear about that Anyway, so our topic now is how can an honest God defeat a lying devil?

Well, let's go back to Ezekiel 28 verse 16 Let me ask this question.

What was the thing that got Satan thrown out?

Did he, I mean, and I've heard people spiritualize, well, in a sense, he broke all the commitments.

Like, okay, okay, but I mean, just logistically, what did he actually do?

We can all have guesses, and they might have some level of veracity to them, but let's see what the text says.

By the abundance of your trading, you became filled with violence within, and you sinned.'" By the abundance of your trading, what did he say?

It's like a commercial term, it's traffic.

In fact, in the King James, you'll see that word, T-R-A-F-F-I-C-K.

It's the only time it's used in the Bible, traffic.

By the abundance of your trading, you became filled with violence within, and you sinned.

Therefore, because of that, I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God.

I destroyed you a covering cherub from the midst of this fiery stone." So the question is, was Lucifer cast out of heaven for selling something?

In Job chapter 1, Job chapter 1, verses 1 through 5, is a great thing for Job.

He's a righteous man, he's got children and a household, he's got wealth and influence, yet it hasn't ruined his character.

I mean, he's just a really good guy, Job.

And it says in verse 5, I'm sorry, verse 3, so this man was the greatest of all the people of the East.

And if Job only was 5 verses long, good for Job.

And if you notice, it's a sharp juxtaposition from down here on earth where Job is living this life, all of a sudden verse 6 comes along, "'Now there was a day when the sons of God "'came to present themselves before the Lord, "'and Satan also came among them.' There was a day.

Now notice it's not, it starts with Job here on earth and where he lives there in the east with his household and his family, but this is completely disconnected from that.

This meeting takes place in the presence of God in heaven, right?

Because notice, they came to present themselves before the Lord.

The Lord is calling people in and He hosts a meeting there.

There was a day when the sons of God, which should put a question in our minds, who are these sons of God?

And we'll come back to that in just a second.

But There was a day when the sons of God, which should put a question in our minds, who are these sons of God?

But there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord.

So apparently a meeting was called and they come from other places to assemble before the Lord.

And it adds, and Satan also came among them.

Now this seems to have a problem with what we had just studied in our first 1.

Didn't Satan used to live in heavenly places right there at the right hand of God?

Yes, but as we saw last time, what has happened?

He was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him.

But now, There was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan also came among them.

There are several questions in this simple sentence, right?

Well, it goes on to say, and the Lord said to Satan, from where do you come?

Which strongly implies, as we just saw in the previous text, everybody at this meeting comes from somewhere else.

The Lord's the 1 who stays still, and everybody comes to Him.

So He calls a meeting, and Everybody shows up who's supposed to be at the meeting, and he's taking roll call and attendance, and all of a sudden, Satan's there, which I'm guessing changes the dynamic of the room.

Right, All the things got tense, things got weird.

Anselm Lorden said, "'From going to and fro on the earth "'and from walking back and forth on it.'" Where does he claim to be from?

In what condition was he in on the earth?

Apparently free to walk around up and down.

He's basically saying, I run that place and I'm here representing it today.

Well, don't we know he was stuck in a tree?

Series

Answering the Angels

02 How Can an Honest God Defeat a Lying Devil?

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