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5. Last Generation Theology

David Shin


It’s a term that 21st century Adventists are allergic to. How did we get here? A look at the most influential Adventist theologian that nobody has heard of.


David Shin

Pastor, Hillside O'Malley Seventh-Day Adventist Church in Anchorage, AK



  • December 30, 2016
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This message was presented at the G Y C twenty sixteen conference when all has been heard in Houston Texas for other resources like this visit us online at W T Y C Where All right. Just a few items before you begin in order to facilitate covering all the intended information in the seminar please hold it and write down your questions until the seminar is completed until the seminar is what completed. Otherwise we will dive down and I will never get all right. So if time allows. There will be a segment for question. So at the end if time allows. All right. Information will be given at the end of the seminar of a time and location when further dialogue can take place later this evening. G Y C has opened up a room for speakers to dialogue with individuals and if you like to dialogue some more there will be a time that I will reveal later on at the end of the seminar there will be a link provided at the end for download downloadable seminar notes. I apologize for those that have come to previous seminars. I did not know that the host would charge. I'm not trying to make money on it and so I switched to a different provider and I'll provide those links at the end of the seminar. All right here is the format for this seminar. In the beginning I will attempt to sent this size. Andrea since theological package. Then I'll touch briefly on questions on doctrine. And then we'll talk about happens stalls systematic theology. And then I'll do some personal reflections and if time we will do question. At the end. So let's begin. Emily Andrius and the most influential systematic theologian of the one nine hundred thirty S. and one nine hundred forty S. he's known for his book saying sure we service the most controversial chapter in his book is the last chapter concerning the final generation in which he describes what is called last generation theology. It cannot be overstated the influence and the reaction of M.L. Andrea since theological package. George night in his book search for identity puts it this way. It isn't possible to over estimate the influence of M.L. Andrea's an On twentieth century admin is the ology is the illogical package is so central to modern admin is developing that a person is forced to respond in one way or another to it. Individuals and groups within the church either agree with this the ology or they must react against it. Neutrality is not an option for those who understand his teachings. Emeli Andrius since systematic theology can be sent the sized. Several different ways but this is a way that I have attempted to synthesize his theology. His view of sin is that sin is predicated on the notion of choice and volition. Sin is the transgression of the law by the way when I'm going through this. I'm going to be descriptive. OK descriptive and at the end I will provide some personal reflections on attempting as best as possible to be descriptive. And reasons framework for sin is predicated on the notion of free will and volition. Sin is the transgression of the law it is a choice. Stemming from a sinful nature in Andrea since the illogical framework the sinful nature is the result of sin but it is not sin. All right. We inherit a sinful nature as a result of sin. But that sinful nature is not sin. Andrea sins framework for sin is a categorical rejection of the notion of a sin of being all right. It is a category junction of the Augustinian notion of original sin. So from that framework because sin is coming from a sinful nature but the sinful nature is not sin. Therefore this has implications when it comes to Christ ology. If having a sinful nature does not mean that you are sin as in the city. Sin is a state of being then when you go to Christ ology you can come to the conclusion that Jesus having a sinful nature or the sinful nature of Adam after the fall would not make him a sinner you following me. Because in the end reason framework of systematic theology. Coming from his understanding of sin that sin is predicated on free will and volition not a state of being there for Jesus can have the nature of Adam after the fall. Having the inherited and cultivated tendencies to sin. We will parse that out a little bit later post fall having what Ellen White calls a sinful nature Christ. Ken and in Andrea since paradigm does have the nature of Adam after the fall with the tendencies to sin the inner tendencies because having the inner tendencies does not mean that you are sin or a sinner. All right. That is Andrea since paradigm. Therefore in the package of Andrea Susan Christ can be our example in other words Jesus came all the way down became a man a human being just like us and overcame sin in the flesh and his life is an example for our life a logical implication following his definition of sin the nature of Christ and Christ as our example. This has S. Cata logical implications as well as the Greek word that means the end. All right so you can see that this systematic theology This package has harm Attala G.-D. the nature of sin Christ ology the nature of Christ and it also has S. Cata logical implications as well. In Andrea's since the illogical framework. It is developed on this notion of harvest the ology that when Christ is coming in the Book of Revelation is holding his hand a signal is coming to reap the earth. The notion is that one hundred forty four thousand are going to mature as Christians developing a reflection of the character of Christ. Now and in the Book of Revelation. And the quotation that has become kind of a synopsis. Of the end. Reus in eschatology is Christ object lesson three zero nine. Here it is. Thank you. It was early when I did this or late whichever you look at it given Bolzan says it's sixty nine. Thank you. Christ is waiting with longing desire for the manifestation of himself in his church when the character of Christ shall be perfectly reproduced in his people. Then he will come to claim them at his as his own. All right so this this is a synopsis summary of what is called last generation theology in the Andresen framework. All right so it starts with the nature of sin nature of Christ implication crisis our example it Anis and ask at a logical perspective as well in terms of the last generation that will perfectly reproduce the character of Christ. Also built into this whole notion when you read the rest of this paragraph and the paragraph afterwards in Christ object lessons. It gives the notion that Christ is waiting for this. In other words Christ is not waiting for the pope or final events or these things he's actually waiting for his church to reproduce the character of Christ in the end. Reus and paradigm. Now. Around the time that Andrea some was retired. There were some developments in the interactions between Adventism and. Evangelicalism. John. A gentleman by the name of T N Rue who was president of the Pennsylvania conference. Wrote to barn house who was the editor of eternity magazine a predominant evangelical magazine and teen. Andrew an Adventist General Conference president wrote to him and affirmed him on his presentation on righteousness by faith farmhouse reacted and said look I didn't believe that you would affirm righteousness by faith because I thought that you believed in righteousness by works. Well anyway this conversation didn't go anywhere. Later on barn house and his associate Martin wanted to start a project dealing with cults and naturally Adventism was put into the mix and Martin wanting to go to the originals individuals. Rather than secondary information reached out to tea Unruh who barn house had had dialogue with and T. Unruh went to the General Conference to the brother in and facilitated a dialogue between Martin and his associates and with representatives from the General Conference. There were three prominent individuals that were in this dialogue. They were W E read R A. Anderson and probably the most notable Leroy Froome. And in this dialogue. There were a number of issues that the evangelicals had with Adventists the ology and I don't want to get lost into this topic. But we need to recognise that the Calvinist mind and the Reform Theology is really coming from a framework of the ology they're coming from a very well developed systematic theology and we discussed a lot of that in our presentation number two. Calvinistic systematic theology is really based in Augustinian theology. It's a framework and so when they're coming from an Augustine Ian Campbell in this Calvinistic framework. They looked at the writings of the pioneers and Ellen White. And they really had some problems with the systematic theology that M.L. Andrea sin was a spouse and one of the key elements that they had a problem with. Was specifically in relationship to the nature of Christ. They had an issue because they looked at Ellen whites writings and she says I'll go to those quotes later where she says that Jesus was born with a sinful nature. And we need to parse that out and see what that means. However from the Evangelical Mind. They could not bring together this notion of having a sinful nature and not being a sinner the two were synonymous. Because in the Calvinistic framework and I want to talk a little bit about the Calvinistic classic Augustinian view. When it comes to their view of sin they believe in original sin. All right. They believe that because of Adam's sin. Every person that is born into this world is a sinner not predicated on the notion of choice or free will or volition. That is sin as well but it's predicated on the fact that our nature. Is sinful and that makes us a sin or it is sin as a state of being. Now we need to also recognize that the Augustinian model as we discussed in our second presentation. Really imported from platonic dualism not only a view of the world but also a view of human nature. The dualistic human nature that was imported and is in all Protestant and some tism today is not the holistic biblical view of human nature but it is really a dualistic view of human nature. I dukkha to me. Between the body and the soul. And in the notion of total depravity total depravity. Not only is the element of the body sinful or sin but the soul. Is sin as well. So even though on the outer element of the body sin can be. Arguably overcome that the essence the soul still remains in a state of sin you following me. This is in line with Platonic dualism which was imported into the Augustinian model of original sin. So this also has Christ the logical implications. What does it do to Augustinian Christ ology if being born with a sinful nature the nature of Adam after the fall makes you categorically a sinner by nature. It implies that Christ could not have a post fall nature everyone following me as the classic Augustinian model. So in the classic Augustinian model. They have a certain view of sin its original sin then it comes to Christ ology Christ cannot have a sinful nature. He must have what we call a sin less nature the nature of Adam before the fall. Now I'm talking about classic Augustinian systematic theology. So when so in that framework. There is a minimization. In terms of Christ as our example and a emphasis of the Atonement made at the cross. All right so there's kind of a minimizing of the example. He's not so much our example as he is our savior. This has as Got a logical implications as well in terms of overcoming sin before Jesus comes because in this framework sin can all timidly be never overcome because our essence is sin until we are really reunited with Christ at the second coming. Art So that's the classic Augustinian view and so from this systematic theology the Calvinists who are having dialogue with administers and up to this time it is well understood that the predominant framework of Christ ology was that Christ had a sinful nature. Now this did not but may imply that adman is believe that Christ was a sinner. It just comes from the systematic theology of Calvinism coming head to head with Adventism. Now when we talk about questions on doctrine. This document was produced in which questions were asked and one of them was on the nature of Christ. Now we can go into the Atonement. But you'll have to save that for another another seminar Perhaps some day I don't want to get lost into that but this is how the doc the book questions on doctrine emerged as a result of this dialogue. There were questions asked. From the evangelicals and the Adventists. Responded to this in this book now. M.L. Andresen was left out of the conversation. All right. And this led to a huge division within the Seventh Day Adventist Church that we are still living to this day are the fall out of questions on doctrine believe it or not which was published in one thousand fifty seven. We are living the results of what happened in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven. Emeli Andrius and wrote multiple letters to the church and later on they were published openly called Letters to the churches in which he contended that the brother at the General Conference had sold out the admin as identity to the evangelicals. It really caused a few. Within the Seventh Day Adventist Church. George night in commenting on this actually says that. Questions on doctrine and the controversy could have been avoided if Andrea sin was included in the conversation. George Knight's perspective is that things could have been framed and refined quite a bit in that conversation in this is a lesson from history that we can all learn. Questions on doctrine according to George not easily qualifies as the most divisive book in Seventh Day Adventists history a book published to help bring peace between Adventism and conservative Protestantism evangelicalism. Its release brought prolonged alienation and separation to add been as factual as that grew up around it as a whole dissertation in the Ender's university library which thesis is just focusing on the reactions to questions on doctrine. Are there were multiple reactions on different fronts. Now there isn't a part. There is a part of questions on doctrine specifically in regards to the question of the nature of Christ. Now the heading for this section afterwards gives Ellen White statements but the heading for this section. According to George night in his analysis and I agree with this analysis by George night he says that that heading. Was at the best misleading because the heading said that Christ had a sin less nature. When Ellen White's comment specifically say that he had a sin full nature. Now this is in the footnotes in that section I want to read this very quickly. This is from George and I in his analysis of that heading in questions on doctrine heading number two in Quito D. on the nature of Christ has been seen as problematic because in implies that all men white believe that Christ took sinless human nature when in fact she claimed the opposite. For example in one thousand nine hundred six she wrote that Christ took upon him. Our sinful nature. Again in one thousand nine hundred she penned that he took upon himself fallen sinful human nature degraded and defiled by sin now we need to parse that out. Thus questions on Dr not only supplied a misleading heading. But it also neglected to present the evidence that would have contradicted the heading. The result has been that questions on doctrine has been vilified by many Adventists and has probably done more to create theological division in the Adventist church than any other document and its more than one hundred fifty year old history. Now I want to point out that Emily Andrius and in his letters says that there is much good in the book questions on doctrine. Makes a firm stand on the pillars of our faith such as the Sabbath state of the dead aspects of our eschatology. This aspect of the nature of Christ really became a lightning rod in the conversation on Christ ology. George night goes on in his commentary in the annotated questions on doctrine which was published by Andrews University and he says this whether Froome and his colleagues were willing to admit it or not the view of Christ human nature that they had set forth was a genuine revision of the position held by the majority of the nomination before the publication of questions on doctrine. This is not debated in the scholarly community in Adventism whether you are on one side of Christ ology or the other Everyone is in agreement that there is a definite marker between the Christ ology held by the majority prior to questions on doctrine and the Christ ology that developed after now what that means we will have to reflect on some more but this is a definite marker. There is a book by searcher which illustrates this. You have before questions on doctrine and after questions on doctrine. Touched with our firm a nice infirmities touch with our feelings. Thank you thank you for sitting up here Kevin they really help me out. Our touch with our feelings touch with our feelings by searcher provides a historical perspective on this. All right so notice what he says it was a genuine revision of the position held by the majority of the denomination before the publication of questions on doctrine. Now after questions on doctrine. Edward happen stall. A systematic theologian at the seminary developed a systematic theology that responded to. M L. Andrea. This is the systematic theologians I would say arguably very few young people have heard of all right. But I believe that he is the most influential systematic theologian in Adventism of our generation. I want to read this from George Knight who agrees with this the most influential scholar to come out against Andrea since final generation theology was Edward happened stall All right. George night goes on in a search for identity while happened falls writings were influential his teaching career was much more so he influenced a generation of preachers and religion teachers through his College and Seminary lectures themes highlighted by Happens to all would echo in other classrooms through such teachers as hands Lauren Del Rao dead or in and in the pulpit through Morris Vanden grout the one nine hundred seventy S. and one nine hundred eighty S.. All right. I'm just reading. OK this is George Knight the admin is his story and giving an analysis of the influence of happens to all. So you get and reason questions on doctrine. And then you have. The response to Andrea's and systematic theology found in Edward happens to all happen stall is the most influential theologians of our generation Woodrow Wilson makes the same commentary. Edward happens to all is the most influential theologians of this generation yet. Very few people have heard of him but the ideas of happen stall are very pervasive it was a response to Andrea's sins last generation theology. Now I want to give quotes from Happens to all starting with his understanding of sin and go on and then afterwards I would try to synthesize them as a package I'm just going to read through these quotes from Happens to all just to give you a picture of where he's coming from as a system a Titian. Now when we talk about systematic theology we're talking about a system where one person takes a concept or theme and systematize as it works its way through harm Attala G. the nature of sin works its way through the nature of price and works his way through eschatology there's a lot of work in systematic theology you impact one you impact the other it is a package a theological system. So this is happened stalls theological system and again I want to remind you. I'm being descriptive I will provide my personal reflections at the end. Art. Here's a quote from Edward happened. Here's his view of sin. All men are born in a state of separation from God This is the original sin a state into which all of us enter the world our notice the language. All right a state in which we enter the world happens to all is in the framework of a sin of being all right. Edward happens to all says where man is separated from the presence and reality of God is in any way and to the slighted. Degree their sin exists in some form all sin springs from separation from God. Now I want I want to to just process. The notion of sin it happens stalls systematic theological framework. And reasons framework would say that separation from God is the result of sin. You see that's Andrea sins framework and happens stalls framework separation from God is sin you following me. There's It seems like just semantics but there is a fundamental distinction between the two are right. And reasons framework separation from God is the result of sin happens talls framework separation from God is sin. All right there is that nuance in there and you'll see as we progress through happens to all systematic theology. He uses this frame of separation from God being the definition of sin and process it processes it through his eschatology. All right here is Christ ology and this is Dennis Fortan He's professor of theology specializing in the clear at Andrew's Theological Seminary in his commentary on this this framework of Christ ology So we just have seen EPP installs view of sin. We now come to Christ ology a third group of theologians and church members emphasize that although Christ's nature was fully human. And that he could yield to temptation Christ did not inherit our inner inclinations and predispositions to sin. He could sin and was tempted to sin but all his temptations came from outside as was the case with Adam and Eve before the fall. This position is held by the following theologians and the first one that he lists is happens to all. All right now I just want to just kind of. Well a little bit on this notion. Now in Andrea since Christ ology that framework believes that Christ was born with the inherited tendencies to sin in this Christ ology he was not. Now let's move on. Christ as our example there is no salvation in the life example of Christ the carpenter of now is or is if that is all there is now we need to parse this out a little bit but at the very least you can see that the emphasis of happens stall. Focuses more on the Atonement at the cross and kind of. It just says makes a statement about the example of the life of Christ in this framework now this needs to be parsed out so more I this is not saying that he did not believe that the example of Christ did not have belated easy. All right. But the emphasis in his systematic theology is is more in the cross then on the example. Here's the eschatology of happens to all the Christian believes that there still remains in regenerate man a fountain of evil that sin always exists in the Saints till they are divested of their mortal bodies. This original sin remains in Christians and non Christians until they die or are translated. I see what's happening. This is a systematic theology predicated on the notion that sin is separation from God He brings it to eschatology. And he says Look sin is separation from God which means that as long as we are even physically separated from God We are still in a state of sin which means that until we are physically really united with God we were. Continue to stay in that state of sin. Everyone following his eschatology. This is a very logical framework to follow based on the premise of sin. All right. This is happened stalls on words. All right now we come to the reflections but before that let's just go through happen stalls theology his systematic theology predicated on the notion of sin sin as a state of being he does not deny that it is actions thoughts and motives but he says it goes beyond that it has to do with the essence of the person. It is a state of being separation from God Sin is separation from God in the Adria sin model. Sin is or the result of sin is separation from God or that's the fundamental difference. It goes to Christ ology in happens dolls' Christ ology Christ was not born with the tendency to sin in Andrea's sins Christ ology Christ was. In end reasons the ology the implications is a strong emphasis of Christ as our example in happens to all theology. It's not so much an emphasis on example as the Atonement made on the cross. When it comes to eschatology. Andrea says that there will be a generation that reflect the character of Christ and overcome sin before Jesus comes because sin is not a state of being but it's a choice an action predicated on free will and happens to all systematic theology when it comes to eschatology. We will continue in a state of sin because we are separated physically from God and until we are reunited. We will continue in that state of sin. All right. That is the two frameworks and these two are co-existing in Adventism today. All right that I've just given best as possible a synthesis of these two the ologies are right. Now here are. Some of my personal reflections. We're going to drink water and we all love each other right. You know I'm convinced that in theological discussions. The way we dialogue is as important as the content. That we dialogue about. You know I've been in the illogical discussions where oh wow. It was anything but Christ like. And we need to seek understanding together and look there are going to be people in heaven. That don't have their theology all put together nicely. Ellen White says that there's going to be people in heaven that do not perfectly understand the plan of salvation. All right. But you know there's going to be No one in heaven. That is not willing to be made like Jesus not as I said willing to be made like Jesus. All right. So character is important in theological discussions. All right. It's just strange and ironic that sometimes in theological discussions when we're talking about God we can be ungodly. Ones will talk about something else. All right. So this is just a reflection of my journey and look don't take my word for anything study it for yourself. I'm just giving my my reflections on this. All right. Look I could be a heretic don't take my word for it. OK study it for yourself. All right now I have been on both sides of this. And I want to share some theological reflections and some Prince. Bulls as we begin. Let's talk about this whole notion of sin. All right. I believe that promote framework of admin is the ology our understanding of sin. Must be consistent with the sanctuary service and the blotting out of sin. All right. This is a principle whatever our definition of sin is in needs to be compatible with the sanctuary service. All right. It needs to be compatible with the whole notion of the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary and the implications of what that means. Also our understanding of sin must come from a biblical understanding of human nature. Meaning that he as Seventh-Day Adventists do not subscribe to a dualistic view of human nature of the dichotomy between the body and the soul. We do not believe in the timeless tonics soul. We need to understand that all of evangelicalism and Catholicism is based in and out Augustine ie an understanding of human nature. There harm Attala G.-D. which means their understanding of sin comes from that understanding. All right. And the thing that we need to be careful of is we cannot import an understanding of sin from the evangelical frame without also understanding that it's coming from a certain understanding of human nature. If we are going to develop a notion of sin. It has to come from a biblical perspective. Of human nature holistic and in a time space continuum of historicity the Augustinian is in a Platonic view of a dualism not only of human nature but of a timeless reality of God and a time bound reality of man that. Is the framework that there in God acts in an instant in the timelessness that interacts with our soul. I don't care if you're talking about Catholic theology or Protestant theology that is the framework in which their theological system is built. So we need to develop and more work needs to be done along these lines. We need to develop a understanding of sin that comes from a biblical understanding of human nature. Because what the Augustinian frame espouses when it talks about sin a being it's talking about the sin of total depravity in the soul you understand. So it doesn't matter what you're doing on the outside in the body the soul is still sin. All right. That is the framework so we need to develop more on this as as the church our understanding of sin must be compatible with our eschatology. All right. The close a probation and living without a mediator now we need more development in these lines as well. But whatever our definition of sin is it has to be compatible with our eschatology meaning that at one point. Jesus will cease his mid ministration in the most holy place indicating a close up probation and there will be a time period between the ceasing of that ministration and the second coming in which a people will be living without a mediator I mean what does that mean. All right we need to have a definition of sin that is compatible with that reality. All right. We need to work from these frameworks and the Achilles Heel of systematic theology is if we develop with a notion and we develop it out and we change ask a college. Stemming from this. All right so we need to be conscious of what we're doing in our systematic theology. There are individuals that categorically reject this notion of living without a mediator. All right. Because it is incompatible with other aspects of their systematic theology. All right so this is a very important point. Now I want to point out that living without a mediator does not mean that we no longer need Christ are that we're now on our own right. You made it up to this point you're on your own that's not what it's implicating All right. What what I believe it's stating is that there is going to be people that are so dependent on Christ told dependence upon Him and His righteousness. All right that they would rather die than sin. All right now. Now this needs to be parsed out some more in these lines but these are some principles that we need to work with. All right understanding of sin must be compatible with the sanctuary understanding of sin must come from a biblical understanding of human nature understanding of sin must be compatible there eschatology close a probation and living without a mediator aren't yours and Ellen White quotes on what she says is the definition of sin sin is the transgression of the law. This is the only definition of sin. Without the law there can be no transgression by the law is the knowledge of sin the standard of righteousness is exceeding broad prohibiting every evil thing. Now. Ellen might just go on and say that all sin is selfishness. All right now I want to point out that when you look at the definition of sin throughout the writings of Ellen wind and the quote that she didn't first John. Sin goes beyond the ex turn all actions remember in the Sermon on the Mount Jesus expands the fairest say a definition of sin from just an action he says look if you look at a woman to lust. After her you have committed adultery with her in your heart. So Jesus expanded definition the definition of sin in the fair cicle model from just actions that are X. turn on but also to the thoughts. All right. And when you talk about selfishness selfishness can be said to be the motivations behind our actions and thoughts. All right. The motivation so in the frame of sin in my personal reflections that sin is not only actions sots and the selfish motivations. Now the opposite of love is selfishness love at its core is self less nervous. All right. So this is some things that we can glean from our understanding of scent Now let's talk a little bit about Christ ology. Now here is this wonderful tension when it comes to Christ ology yesterday we talked about the ellipse of Truth that. You have heresy. When you focus on one aspect to the rejection of the other we talk yesterday about Dasa tism how it focuses on the divinity to the rejection of the humanity of cries da citizen believes that Christ was divine and he just appeared to be human. All right. Then you have the other emphasis on the humanity of Christ during the Enlightenment period where individuals believe that Christ was just a good man. The Jesus of faith and the Jesus of history are two separate individuals. All right so you have this whole thing and and our debate is not along those lines but it does have to do with the humanity in in dealing with exactly how did Jesus come into this world specifically in the conversation of admin is Christ ology has to do with this notion of ten. Didn't see or propensity. Now there's a whole host of Ellen White quotes. All right. And I want to encourage you to do some research on this and I'm just want to give you a sampling of this and I will attempt a very humble attempt to synthesize this at the end. When it comes to Christ nature what was he born with let me give you some on my quotes very quickly your desire of age is page forty nine. It would have been almost infinite humiliation for the Son of God to take man's nature. Notice that the language year when Adam stood in his innocence in Eden. But Jesus accepted. It just started all the sudden. Are there we go there we go. Sorry about that. But Jesus accepted humanity when the race had been weakened by four thousand years of sin. Like every child of Adam he accepted the results of the working of the great law of heredity. What these results were shown is in the history of his earthly ancestors. He came with such a heredity to share our sorrows and temptations and to give us the example of a sinless life. Now just from a casual observation of this very clearly own white is supporting the notion that Christ was born with the nature of Adam after the fall. And we need to parse out some more what that indicates and this was helpful to me and he rich were seventeen and eighteen. Therefore in all things he was made to be like his brethren all right that he might be a merciful and High Priest in all things pertaining to God to make appropriate T.A. Sion for the sins of the people for in that. He himself has suffered being tempted. He is able to aid those who are tempted notice that it says that he's made lying. His brother in Jesus was made like the brother and now who are the brother in the same chapter. Paul elaborates. But for both he who sanctifies. And those who are being sanctified all are one for which reason he is not ashamed to call them brother. Now let us put this together. Elmwood So he was born with the nature of Adam after the fall and we see that in the book of Hebrews that he was born sanctified All right. He's made like his brother and but he was born sanctified All right now let's parse a little bit more what that means what does a sanctified nature look like this is in the book steps of Christ ninety three ninety four. Our Savior identified himself with our names and weaknesses. In that he became a suppliant a petition or seeking from his father fresh supplies of strength that he might come forth brace for duty and trial. He's our example in all things he is a brother in our first infirmities in all points tempted like we are but as the sinless won his nature recall you old from evil. He endured struggles and torture of soul in a world of sin. His nature recoiled from evil. This is what he sanctified nature looks like now I want to read another statement as to what sanctification does in our lives our look at this does. Page sixty eight all true obedience comes from the heart. It was heart work with Christ and if we consent. He will so identify himself with our thoughts and names so blend our hearts and minds into conformity to his will that when obeying him. We will be but carrying out our own what our own impulses. The will refined and there is the word sanctified All right. Will find its highest delight in doing his service when we know God as it is our privilege to know him. Our life will be a life of continual obedience through and appreciation of the character of Christ through Communion with God Sin will become hateful to us. This is the full potential of sanctification sin will become hateful to us. Christ was born sanctified his nature recoiled from evil. Here we have the potential of human sanctification where we hate sin. All right let's go on and when one person like the messages page two fifty two the majesty of heaven undertook the cause of man and I've kept this for emphasis and with the same faculties that men may up Tain. In other words we don't have it but we can obtain it. All right. Jesus undertook the cause of band with the same faculties that man may obtain withstood the temptations of Satan as a man must withstand them. This was the only way in which fallen man could become a partaker of the divine nature. Now I want to be very clear that when we're talking about the nature of Christ we need to be very careful that we're not speculating beyond revelation the nature of Christ. I believe it's probably going to be an eternal mystery. All right so we need to as own light says take our shoes off our feet recognizing that we are on a holy conversation on the nature of Christ. All right. Jesus are here is my humble synthesis here. All right. Jesus was born in the nature of Adam after the fall. However in the full potential of human sanctification with sanctified tendencies. All right. That is my attempt at what we have just seen aren't Jesus was born in the nature of Adam after the fall. However in the full potential of human sanctification with sanctified tendencies Now I want to parse this out a little more when we talk about Jesus as our example. All right. The Bible is very clear that Jesus is our example in first. Peter chapter two verse twenty one to this you were called because Christ suffered for you leaving you an example that you should follow in his steps. Now we need to be very careful we talk about crisis our example. Christ as our example is tied to his humanity. But we need to be very careful that when we're focusing on crisis our example the fundamental ground of Christ as our example is predicated on how he lived his life here on Earth. Now I want to parse that out a little bit more it is focused on the notion of Christ decision to not use his divinity. But depend upon the Father. All right. That is the ground of Christ being our example we need to be very careful that we are not using Christ says our example by saying you know what in everything he was just like me. Therefore he is my example. Now there is a subtle to be to it but but. Look. Jesus is not exactly just like you. All right. He he's our Savior. OK now. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say here I'm not saying that he was not human or all these other things but it's kind of like saying you know what someone else is my height. They can dunk. I can dunk. They're just like me their age and I'm asian right. I mean this is the kind of thing that we can get into and we need to be careful in Christ ology that we're not saying you know what Jesus did it you know and you just put my boot strap in I can do it too you know it becomes like this. Anthropocentric focus you following me are Jesus that I can do it are the posture of Jesus was was this posture is the posture of his decision to totally depend on the father. This is where he is our example of this. Then he answered. Jesus and said to them Verily verily I say to you. The son can knew nothing of himself. But what he see it. The father do for Whatsoever things he do it. These also do it. The son. Likewise and John Chapter five or thirty by myself I can do nothing. All right. So Jesus lived as our example by totally depending on the father and in the same way we are to totally depend on Jesus you following me that is our framework the framework is not performance center its dependence centered. Remember the analogy that Jesus used. I'm the vine you are the branches and if you abide in me me and I abide in you code total dependence. You will bear much fruit he didn't say focus on the fruit. He said focus on the dependance the fruit will take care of itself. It's not performance oriented so. Example of Jesus is grounded in the reality that in the same way that he depended on the father total dependence. We are to totally depend on Jesus is the frame of total dependence desire of ages sixty four Jesus revealed no qualities exercise no powers that men may not have through faith in Him His perfect humanity is all his followers may possess. If they will be in subjection to God as he was. Total dependence. If they will depend on the father. If they will depend on Jesus as Jesus dependent on the father. So this is the framework notice. Jesus revealed no qualities exercised no powers predicated on this notion of total dependence are not total dependence implies look I can do nothing. God must work. I that that's the framework that we are in. Now when we talk about the last generation. I want to be very clear here that I have been in different discussions and in dialogue on and in communities that espouse. Last Generation theology. And sometimes individuals that have interacted in communities where last generation theology is the predominant theology. There has been observations that the. Conversations held by the individuals have not been held in a Christ like manner. All right. Now I want to be very clear. You never judge something by its abuse. OK. You can abuse water waterboarding. Depends on anyways. You can drink too much water you can die. Art but also we need to recognise that in last generation theology. If it is developed in a way that is anthropocentric meaning man centered. And performance driven it can become a sanctification lifestyle checklist. He said I'm saying that it's very performance driven in other words you're on this path toward a performance driven theology theological framework that becomes like a checklist you know vegan check dress reform check. You know I appreciate Adventists lifestyle art but but we do not believe in righteousness by the going is I'm all right we do not. I mean I uphold the health message please don't misunderstand me but it is not a meritorious element. All right. And what happens in some in last generation theology is that the focus can become on performance and the perspective of our unworthiness is lost sight of and so it becomes a relative perfection in other words you look around you say oh he's he's not being and I am in modest modest you know I'm saying right. And and then there is kind of this undercurrent there's this edge that comes in and you look at somebody and they don't meet the criteria of lifestyle sanctification and so they're like oh you're like. Someday you will be like me you know it it's subtle. OK it's sort of so this is the framework that that is can be a fall out of a performance driven be a logical framework. And I'm convinced that the focus of God's people. Needs to be total dependence. That's the focus. God will take care of the fruit. God will take care of the vindication. Our focus is to be on dependence. All right. And there is this dichotomy almost because I believe that in our own self awareness. Even in the last generation. All right our self-awareness even in the last generation that we will never feel all perfect. All right we're talking about the existential reality. All right. God can look down and see imputed imparted. Perfect like he did in the Bible talking about individual but we're never going to say you know what I'm perfect. I have arrived in our consciousness. All right. That is dog's declaration not our self awareness. If we ever come to the place where we say we've arrived and we're perfect. We need to experience Isaiah Chapter six. What was me are so I'm not saying that we need to focus on our imperfection. But that is the byproduct of when we keep our eyes on Jesus. There will be a byproduct a consciousness of our unworthy ness. So that needs to be our frame I'm not saying focus on our imperfections. But but that. Consciousness I believe will never be there even in this notion of the last generation now I believe there is going to be a last generation meaning. Look there's going to be a group of people that are alive when Jesus comes and translated without seeing death are and we need to parse what that indicates are and so in Revelation Chapter seven you have the four angels holding the four winds back another angel comes and says hold the four winds now in the context of Revelation it implies that when the four winds are let go you know she is in the final events that brings about the culmination in the second coming. The angels are holding back the four winds until the servants of God are sealed we're on their foreheads aren't known as one hundred forty four thousand. Now we need to recognize that this is talking about character are sealed in their foreheads Sabbath is a sign of that seal God creates the earth in six days he signs it with the Sabbath is equal Chapter twenty God recreates in us the image of God when we keep the Sabbath. It's a signature of salvation that signature is signed but notice the Sabbath is not us working. It is God we're working through us we're to rest in the assurance of God's re creation. All right. Now in this framework we need to look at this concept of the sealing notice it is about character or the character of God. The character of God is love. It is self less miss sometimes. Christ object lessons and this notion of character restoration has been refrain from the reproduction of Christ's love in us to a reproduction of a certain lifestyle in standards. Please don't misunderstand me I believe in standards and lifestyle but that is not to be equated as the. Mission of character restoration you following me. You can be a lifestyle person and be very nasty and on Christ like. All right so. So we're talking about this whole concept of the character of God His love being reproduced in us as a work of grace and the byproduct of our dependence on him. All right. That is the framework that we're talking about. Now notice this concept of character transformation takes place in the sanctuary framework the character transformation takes place in the holy place the penalty of sin. In the courtyard transformation character transformation in the holy place. Now I want to read a statement from Ellen White that talks about this nature. This is the nature of character transformation. This is from administration page sixteen Jesus does not change the character and is Cami the work of transformation must be done now. All right. When Christ shall come our Vile Bodies are to be changed and make made like his glorious body but the vile character will not be made whole leave then the transformation of character must take place before his coming. All right. It must take place before his coming now we're talking about the character. All right now I want to. There's a lot more that can be parsed out in this but I just want to close with these few quotations from Ellen White about human merit this notion of sanctification does not mean our works are meritorious to be very clear. You know if we are being sanctified it does not hold merit with God be very clear that's Catholic theology. Catholic theology believes in meritorious thing to vacation. All right. Which Protestantism rejected all right but look at this from the Ellen White writings from a pen. The closer you come to Christ. The more faulty you will appear in your own eyes for your vision will be clear and your imperfections will be seen in distinct contrast with his perfect character be not discouraged. This is an evidence that Satan solutions are losing their power. And any works that man can render to God will be far less then what nothingness. My requests are made acceptable only because they are laid upon Christ's righteousness the last generation living without a mediator. Is still are still going to need the righteousness of Christ. Exactly. Righteousness my faith also is imputed and imparted All right so all only that all me see that everything in obedience in penitence in praise in Thanksgiving must be placed upon the glowing fire of the righteousness of Christ. I was so here is that wonderful tension in scripture that we talked about our God works in us but our works are not meritorious. They need the righteousness of Christ. Aren't we are justified and being sanctified. All right we are out of time I think I'm over. I'm way over I am so sorry. They are going to not be happy. Are we need to go to outreach but look at this. All right for further dialogue and questions between eight thirty and ten P.M. tonight in room three twenty eight B.C. it's in your program there. If you want to dialogue further. Perhaps you don't but if you do I will be there. We can dialogue further. Our next seminar is the Omega apostasy tomorrow you can see that in your program and also here's a link to download all the notes. This is a Dropbox link that you can look at. What's our heads for a prayer and then I will let you go with parents Father in heaven. We thank you so much for the opportunity that we have to just engage in this topic and Lord we just pray for your spirit to prevail in us pray that we would have the spirit as well as the heart seeking for truth before hearing answerable to Jesus' name and this message was presented at the G. Y.C. two thousand and sixteen conference when all has been heard in Houston Texas. I see a supporting Ministry of the Seventh Day Adventist Church seeks to inspire young people to be bible based Christ centered and soul winning Christians for other resources like this visit us online at W W W G Y C Web dot org.


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