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5. Mining The Manual

Kameron DeVasher


One of the most member-empowering documents in the Seventh-day Adventist Church today is the church manual. This session will explore some of the hidden gems in the SDA Church Manual and encourage attendees not to re-invent the wheel, but to simply learn to drive the car we already have!


Kameron DeVasher

Director of Sabbath School & Personal Ministries, Michigan Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist Church



  • December 30, 2016
    9:15 AM
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This message was presented at the G Y C twenty six hundred conference has been heard in Houston Texas for other resources like this visit us online at W T Y C where messages are going to be recorded. Anyway so we'll pick them up later. There's something special about actually being in the room. So you are the extra credit people you are the you're the high standard the Goldmark we want to reach. Well done again just a reminder the handouts. There are handouts for each of these presentations. I have the physical copy which at this you I see is of a rare find indeed because there are no physical handouts but you do have on the G. Y.C. app on the seminar sessions this one entitled mining the manual and as I look at the crowd apparently I could just as well. Titled it like brussel sprouts and root canals. You know. Something very very appealing you know and I know that there's that. Well we'll get into that a minute but the title of it is mining the manual and launch into why that's important in just a second but the resource that goes along the handout is in the G. Y.C. app so if you go to this seminars and go to total member involvement you scroll down to the session that we're in mining the manual you push on The View seminar resource and it'll pop up the very notes that I have in my hand so they are accessible to you now whether you can like download those or print them off or copy and paste I have no idea what you can do with them. It's a whole new world out there but at least you can follow along in this session if you have a smartphone or any other tablet device thing. All right with those preliminary comments out of the way I was going to dive into a. Our message after a quick word of prayer. I see that we've got a few people as well maybe this way just a second. The door of probation remains open. That's good that's good. The doors closing by an invisible hand it's like we're in the ark. Very nice. All right so for those of you who are running the audio verse whatever this is where we're going to begin a recording so I'd like to say good morning everyone. And before we get started with our heads for where prayer directly Father thank you so much for this new day of life you've given us thank you for the physical food we've had and the spiritual feast we've already had this morning and Lord now as we move into more and more practical applications of this total member involvement concept help us to understand more clearly the part you would have each one of us to play and help us to become a light in our churches as we seek to transform by your grace the often nominal state of our churches or to raise up a generation of Seventh Day Adventists members who are missionaries for you. We ask all of this in Jesus name Amen. All right now the manual that I'm talking about is the Seventh Day Adventist Church manual a new edition has just been put out you know that they revised the seven definite church manual at the General Conference session. So for the longest time most of this presentation was presented based on documentation from the two thousand and ten black edition of the seven demonstrates manual. In two thousand and fifteen. As you do every five years now you have a journal conference session and one of those things is to. Look and revise and make additions amendments or whatever to this data search manual and in two thousand and fifteen. That was done it took quite a long time. I'm not exactly sure why for the two thousand and fifteen edition to actually be launched and put out in publication but now as in just the last couple of months. It is out there and it is read. They change the color because when you have them on the shelves the one before the black was a blue if I think of before the blue was a green and if I remember my history every five years you get a new color on your shelf. But now we've gone from black to red and those additions have been included in the notes that you have so the notes that you have include the freshest hot off the press have an administration manual stuff. But I know that in a crowd of seven devotees particularly faithful conservative seven Ave as which are making the bold assumption everyone in this room intends to be a faithful it is because you're here that even the notion of having a manual at all can be controversy. I get that I've been in those discussions I've had them with myself that you're supposed to have discussions with yourself. But sometimes I do. And I can understand the argumentation from both sides as to whether we should have a manual or not. OK And what I want to do before we even dive into it is I want to address that issue before we dive into what the manual says because you might be thinking Well so what if the manual says it. It's wrong that we should have it. It's an abomination. Literally I know that sounds a little hyperbolic but there are people who have very strong feelings about this. So let me give you a little bit of a history review of where the idea of where this church manual even comes from OK it's not a new thing. It's been around for quite a while in the seventies church and actually you can go and there's Do specific dates about this in eight hundred seventy eight. Now. To very briefly review the history of that never search the first date in administering most everybody knows October twenty two eighteen forty four right. But let me be clear there were no Seventh Day Adventists in eight hundred forty four and there were Advent believers who might have been Methodist or Christian connection or some other Baptists something like that. William Miller was a Baptist you know and I came from the Methodist Church and James was Christian connection there was Joseph Bates and these other individuals who were around that era but there were no seventh Avenue because there's no organized church in fact the doctrines that would later be body to what we now call the seven demonstrate were being formulated and conceived of at that time. Obviously they were formed they were sitting they were being discovered say The Lord is revealing them through a process of time and that was mentioned the other night in our message about the sanctuary for example October twenty three eight hundred forty four they started at the first light on that and it started developing took several years the same thing with the Sabbath understand you might realize that when says are white and James White were introduced to the Sabbath concept they thought it was nice but not important. Later on they started to see the light in it the Lord's revealed more and more over time and then became a pillar of the movement right but it took a while they did say I was wrong. I have said we don't see it yet and it developed over time. But these are the distinctive essence of adding to the Sabbath the same sure the state of the dead the second coming. The the spirit of prophecy itself. These all kind of took a little bit to formulate and come together now so that was then that occurred in the late one nine hundred forty S. after the disappointment eight hundred forty four five six seven eight right around their nine and by the eight hundred fifty S. and sixty's the issue was now that we have this is body a belief then they started talking about what do we do with it. Well we got to present it to people you know and of the era of Church Growth started to happen but it wasn't a church yet you know it was still and a kind of a scattered flock of believers who had these. Divs seem to point to Faith been so that was a real issue for about ten years was the issue of organizing at all. There were some people that said the moment you take a name and become incorporated you have become Babylon we came out of Pavel and not just create a new Babylon to come into it. There was a long time of discussion but of course by the eight hundred sixty the early eighteenth sixties the need for organization for owning properties like say publishing houses and sending out ministers and paying them when they were systematic benevolence which they in the development about call it sister Betsy which is a fun thing to look into. But all of those structural things were in the fifty's early eight hundred sixty S. coming about until eight hundred sixty three. We had the organization and conference. So the movement started one thousand nine hundred one until the mid eight hundred sixty S. that we were organized movement but even then there was no like governing document of how churches are to be run Wimber if you were in our session about it's time to grandpa we looked at the development of hovering pastors kind of thing and where did they get the concept of how many pastors have any church and where they should go. They got to directly from the Bible said that's what we thought the apis to all of us we just kind of follow the Word of God It seems like a pretty straightforward good idea. But by the eighteen seventies the church work was expanding rapidly as we mentioned. And it was going outside of the United States at this time and they were saying look we've got a long hard territory we can't just like check in with each other horse and buggy kind of way we need some sort of consistency. And so an eight hundred seventy eight at a gentle conference session discussions regarding the formation of a seven church menu began in earnest. They said you know we're getting so big and so broad that we really should have some sort of unifying. Process for how we operate these low. Churches. You know manual and to help people to feel that they can check in with someone of Laurent long experience what if they just had a handy dandy manual or said here's how you do a nominee Committee has a you do a funeral here then you do whatever it is you do you know that's It was an eight hundred eighty two. They had several years of discussion about this. But at the eight hundred eighty two general comfort session. It was recommended. That a subcommittee be commissioned to write quote a manual of instructions for church officers. So right somebody write down all the stuff we think needs to be written down. Let's bring it back and review it and toss it around a little a three man committee. Prepared documents that were intended to be reviewed at the upcoming general conference session at that point General Conference sessions were every year and you might think. How can you pull off a general conference session every year. How do you get seventy thousand people to it wasn't like that when all right we're talking delegates in the you know dozens forty fifty sixty something like that. Maybe if that in those those years those early years. So getting you know the same fifty people in a room is not that hard every year and you can kind of and they're all close by. I mean it was it was different. Anyway so the purpose was an eighty two. They said all right at the discussion started one hundred seventy eight. They came back for several years of that they said OK fine. Three people put together the documents that should be reviewed for a potential manual and review it next year right. And these documents were then published in a series of thirteen articles in the review and Herald during the summer ahead of the eight hundred eighty three general conference session. So eight hundred eighty two. Let me get the chronology right here the three main committees appointed to start putting together these documents that might be considered at the next session for a potential manual. And head of the eight hundred eighty three session they publish them for wide distribution throughout the membership in the review Herald through it's a transparent process. So the idea of having study committees and publishing it ahead of time before a decision this is a new thing that came up with Tosk by the way this is a long held tradition and so everyone had read these materials. There wasn't anything from I've never found anything that said that anything in them was controversy you'll or heretical or all noteworthy everybody that's a good idea. That's a good one. That's a good one. So they were generally well received. They come to the general conversation there was an air of expectation that we've had our discussions we've had the subcommittee put together the documents the documents been published in reviewed. Now they've come to the G.C. for the old fashioned Go ahead. So at eight hundred eighty three gentle conversation a committee of thirteen which is still thinking why it's up to me will you think of thirteen I think that was a third of the delegates than that I'm a thirteen or twenty five percent of that a committee of thirteen appointed to review the proposed manual. Voted unanimously against it. They had the same people who put together process reviewed all the documents said Good good good good good. They came together the committee of thirteen looked at the whole thing and said all in favor say aye and no one said I opposed every person was opposed. So we went back to the floor of the general conference session and said All right. The discussion is every years the documents you put together the publications that are going out. Thank you for all your hard work you know just like that the man who died. The General Conference president was George Butler at the time and he was commissioned to write an article in the review explaining the committee's thinking because remember these these articles been published to the general membership with the anticipation they would be beautiful comfort session for acceptance or not and he had the task is present. Here's why we didn't except what you've been reading fascinating elder Butler's article by the way was tersely entitled no church manual. He commended the author's work in preparing the proposed manual even stating that it contained quote much excellent matter and gave quote many valuable directions. It was a good job a lot of good information we just decided not to take it. The concern was that that particular manual but it was the bigger question of the notion of having a manual at all. That was what the committee wrestled with. Elder Butler in fact felt so confident in the church's position against having a church manual that his concluding line of the no church manual article was this quote It is probable it will never be brought forward again there are some strong feelings about this. He explained that the G.C. committees reasons for rejecting the manual were what he called of a broader character and if you ever want to study this particular vignette of admin is history more I can recommend to you this book it's called hindsight by day Fiedler I don't know if any of you seen or heard of this book but it's a great one. I got this one. Mark down to two ninety seven. OK so most seventy seven is A.B.C. bookstores will have a copy floating around there somewhere. If not I'm sure you can get one on line I don't know check Amazon or something but there's a little chapter entitled The people of the book and it talks about the coming into existence of the seven it's a fascinating historical read but included in that is the entirety of George Butler's article explaining why the committee rejected the notion of a church manual. Well I will summarize it for you here but if you want to take the full thing again I'd recommend that little. A little book there but basically it kind of broke down into four reasons why the committee rejected having a manual an eight hundred eighty three. Number one use of a manual nightly to way some especially of the younger ministers from seeking guidance directly from Scripture and the leading of the Holy Spirit. There was a fear that though. Whatever was said in here derived directly and accurately from here. There was a fear that people would skip this go to this and become unfamiliar with the Scripture itself. So there was a concern. Not that it was bad or misrepresented scripture they were just a fear that it condenses to sink little bullet pointed version we get people away from the source. So we don't know if and when we see that happening. Number two. Over time a manual could be regarded not merely as a guide book but as a rule book this perception would tend to make men shallow or in their thinking and less original and less self-reliant. So instead when an issue comes up in the local church you don't think anymore what should I do you just look at up and get the answer. So if they were afraid it would have the potential. Of lowering our expectations of thought in troubleshooting and originality and self-reliance right. And you just look for the PAGE ONE A That is just fix it. So number one they were afraid it would get people away from Scripture number two if it would been their thinking they lose the capacity for original and self-reliant but Thirdly since Seventh Day Adventists have no creed but the Bible Amen Amen you could be understood. As the first step away from that simple position and toward a creed like other denominations have which by the way you mean we today think of like you know the twenty seven which they were and the twenty eight fundamental beliefs like they have always been there. Does anybody know when the twenty seven for the beliefs which now are now twenty eight were originally voted by the general conversation. Pretty sure that was nineteen eighty. It's a relatively new thing I was born in an era where we didn't have the fundamental Now the beliefs were of course they are going to them but they weren't codified and Codex like a book. It was because what was the fear because that would be a step towards the creed and if you open up the twenty fundamental belief book the very introduction will say this is not a creed. Don't think for a minute that you get it that this is are you just memorize this rote list of things and your seven there is no we derive it directly from the Word of God and though they represent those teachings the scripture is only the scripture. Amen. Right and the early pioneers remember their experience had come out of Credo highly structured and churches that had kicked them out for their belief in Biblical truth about the second coming of Jesus and there was a big fear a legitimate concern that that could lead us down that creedal sense to institutional just another denominational path. And finally I love this. They put this in there. We've organized the nation we well by God's grace this far without a manual why start now they're basically said we've got all the hard stuff already taken care of the doctrinal formation that was years of hard work and study and guidance by the Holy Spirit but we did it by God's grace. And the establishing of organization the naming of the Seventh Heaven as church the the ownership of properties and whatnot and the. The hiring of ministers and the organisation of conferences all of this was done without a manual. So now we've got all the hard work behind us. Why do we have to go and write a report now. So you understand the four concerns is a drift away from Scripture. They were afraid it would make men less thinking less original less self-reliant just go I don't know just what the book says. Also they are afraid of the perception that work headed towards a creed. And finally they said pragmatically we've already done the hard stuff. What can possibly be difficult. Going forward if only they were alive to see. So in eight hundred eighty three. Again it was so roundly rejected. Again not that the manual produced was bad it was the notion of having a manual at all. That was so concerning to that subcommittee of thirteen in one thousand nine hundred three that they unanimously rejected it and the General Conference says it again said quote It is probable it will never be brought forward again in one thousand nine hundred thirty two the first official seven to having a church manual was adopted by the General Conference in session. So for fifty years roughly that statement was accurate but things changed now. The church manual you can find a history in when they first produce that they had a big long section about like we know we rejected Emmanuel and now we have one and it seems a little bit you know at the critical that nice long introduction about why this happened and how over the time over those you know intervening fifty years or so they continue to write policies and procedures and rethink their own conference so they're like well if you are writing them individually why don't we just codified them and put them in the book and call them and you know if we're going to have procedures let's at least put them all down handily and you know there was a. As a legitimate discussion about that. Again I would highly recommend to you that day feel his book hindsight in the little chapter the people of the book is just a very convinced good helpful discussion so what do we do today. Some will look at that history and say the pioneers did not want to mention Sr White can agree with that it was not a good thing to have it was only after her death in one nine hundred fifteen some seventeen years later that they actually adopted having a manual. So what we have now is a non pioneer non prophetically endorsed work of man I can hear that argument. Probably some legitimacy to that on the other hand people could say yeah but the church did keep writing policies and it's not like there was anything wrong with having policies and procedures and why not put them down in a book it's we understand that that's not a creed Now we do have organizational issues that they couldn't have understood at that point. Surely in this day and age you. It sounds good to now I'm not here to be your authority moral or otherwise on whether the church manual is a is a document that we should adhere to. But I will say this here if you have to know this is my recommended approach for dealing with the church manual. Because now the cases come that some see the church manual as v the document to which we must answer in the day of judgment basically and that is not the case but others would say yes just a trash heap of man we should disregard it. Hope that's not the case either. Let me recommend this what I believe to be a balanced approach and if you don't have if you have concerns with my approach please don't email me. I just don't have time to answer everybody's you know nickel and dime questions about the menu but I will put it up this way. There are a variety of views regarding the existence and authority of the seven demonstrates manual this. Presentation is not intended to be an excursion It's on every concern that could be addressed. We can open the floor and talk about the pros and cons ad nauseum is not going to help anybody for our purposes they should suffice the following three points number one the seven habits church manual is not inspired. OK. The Bible is inspired him in this writings of L. and you are inspired him in the church and it was not. Now it's interesting it's informative. It is inspiring and I hope it's going to be useful. As we go forward but it's not an inspired document in the sense that the Bible is very process. Let's be clear about that. So this I'm never sure spaniels not inspired it undergoes regular revisions which we do not do a joke on for sessions we don't say all right what do we think about I say are we still good with fifty eight. We don't do that. But we do have a subcommittee or writing committee and they look at the manual tweak it and change it and you're going to see some significant I believe. This is being recorded interesting edit the new edition has some changes from the twenty fifteen it just hasn't changed in two thousand and ten that if I were on the committee I probably would've spoken a different suggestion. It just reminds me again that this is not an inspired document it regrows under those revision. We understand. OK. Number two the essay church manual does however harmonize with General Conference working policies. And it reflects the best practices current in local church governance and Wilson said it nicely today he said some people are talking about the working policy and the doctrines of the church and saying that work waiting them going to know there's a clear difference that's an absurd equivalence However policies are agreements we come together and say I think we should do. I think we should do it too. All right let's do it now our agreement does that make it therefore thus saith the Lord. But it does make it a good common bond of how we work side by side for the Lord on the earth. OK So there's a church man who does however harmonize with Congress working policies and reflects the best practices current in local church government and finally number three. Thus this is what I hope to take away as the church manual provides sound practical guidance for local church functions to good guidance its purpose is not to add to or replace the inspired source of the Bible the spirit of prophecy or the leading of the Holy Spirit. So yes you have a manual but read your Bible. Yes it gives recommendations what you do but I would ask you to practice this before you just turn to the man you think first pray first study the scripture in the Spirit of Prophecy first. Let those inspired sources do its work on your mind check in with the church manual and you'll see how those recommendations nine times out of ten to harmonize beautifully with what the Scripture has already led to right. Just don't short circuit the thing and become a mindless automaton in the church manual is simply a helpful aid for church members and pastors in the routine functions of local church life. The purpose of the similar session is to look at total member involvement and a lot of members don't know how the local church is supposed to function. So today we're going to be mining the manual. I appreciate those who came out despite the bland title as I mentioned earlier we should just call it you know Brussels sprouts and root canals. I know it's not that exciting to say oh we're going to do a review of a manual ope there's an appendix. I know that's not the most honest by thing but let me tell you. This is where the rubber meets the road of local church operations knowing how stuff works being educated and prepared to be engaged in that process and becoming the leader in those functions. That's what it's about I could tell you some really interesting stories and funny anecdotes but that's not going to help you when the local church. Knowing how the operations are supposed to function. That's a tool you can use does that make sense. That's why we're mining the manual. So with that introduction. Let's take a look at the things. I'm going to do you first in if you have the handouts that we've given here a lot of it is just literally copy and paste reading from a church manual. I have had such an interesting such interesting conversations have come out in these presentations this is not the first time I've done this and different groups especially want to simply some parts of Europe and I literally made the appeal. Please go home and download the church manual and just read it right. If you want to move your church forward read the manual put into practice because what I have discovered is that the well I'll give you a little apparent that a cool aside a little biographical sketch of my experience. I was. I was younger when I began a ministry. Everyone was younger. At some point I had no intention of ever being a pastor I wanted to be like you know the cool youth guy who had dyed hair and you know knew all the kids' music and played basketball in gym will recognize you know that's kind of just a basically a paid kid that's what I wanted to be. And graduated with my degree in wasn't theology was religious education when I got a job at a academy and it came with the church. And I was thinking Oh they'll have chapels on Fridays that kind of thing and Vespers in the evening but it was a legitimate full on sisterhood of churches church with a board and deacons and elders and regular services and bills and I had no training whatsoever in what to do so I said I don't know what I'm doing. I didn't say that out loud I said to myself you know you have to. And as a good bit. I did notice that and so I got out the church manual and said What do you how do I run a board meeting I don't have one of these every month. I've never been to a board meeting which was one point. So I had there look at them. If you know that figure out how do I make an agenda. What is that we're going to talk oh do you do at a church board meeting decides I guess you know argue I don't know. I don't know. So I went to the church manual and looked it up and made the agenda based on what the church man at the time said right. And it was fascinating to me that in that edition which is this is fifteen years ago now and so we've got several dishes later but in that edition and it hasn't changed. Mind you that finances weren't even in the top five things you're supposed to talk about it was way down the list of the way about it. So I said All right we'll do that. So the first thing we're supposed to do is this the next thing is and it was fascinating. We just started going by the manual and it worked pretty nifty and I want to bring to attention this is I'll start with the two thousand and ten that was the one that we've had in our hands for the last five plus years that just now is changing so even if you went back like three months ago to the A.B.C. you'd still find this one. Only the red one has come out very recently and we'll get to the red one. But I want to show you the one that. Most of this presentation was built on OK two thousand and ten you find this in page one twenty six and one twenty seven the work of the board. Now before we get to that I want you to just keep in mind of the structure of the low. Church. Someone tell me please what is the highest authority in the local church. Somebody said the members. Yet in business session right. So the highest authority in the church is the business session. You're supposed to have one of those at least once a year. Preferably maybe two or three times a year. OK but at least once a year you're supposed to have a church business me and after church business I mean every baptized member of the church is a voting delegate. You hear reports about the finances of the mission and all the different functions and ministries of the church and you can vote on things and you can as the chair allows raise your hand to make a motion and you can do huge things that a church business mean for instance the church business is the only place where you can discipline members where you can receive into membership or cincher or even dispel issue members can only happen there. The board doesn't do it. The pastor certainly doesn't do it the elders don't do it the church body does it together and by the way did you know that every time you meet Sabbath morning for worship you are a potential church business meeting every time I've ever noticed that when a baptism is conducted. They always they always say something like Now we need to do a little church business first right. And they take a vote before the baptism is there anyone here would make a motion that we accept Brother So and so into membership pending baptism can I get and of course the hands go up and this is a first there's a second. There's a third all in favor say a man and everybody says it but you know it sounds funny but they're actually conducting church business. If some were to stand up and say I object never seen it once by the way. Super awkward church service that would be you know right. But it's illegitimate they have to deal with it that take it right and we can get into some interesting maneuvering about quorums and stuff like that if we want to get into the two A one version of this we can talk and hopefully we can open up for questions in. Anyway. But the work of the the highest authority in the local church is not the pastor of the elders or the board. It is the church in business session. What floors me is how few members show up the raw read G Q list power you have in your hands are walking away from it go to your church business meetings not to be in them noxious obstructionist. But just know what's going on and be a voice that gives you credibility to talk if you don't like the carpet color you get to talk about it if you were the business meeting. If not you went there right now the board is simply the executive committee of the church in business session. OK so its job is to do the work of the church every time you want to spend a thousand dollars. You don't need to call a church business by the way money is a good way to look at this. If you want to spend one hundred dollars to even have to call a church board meeting you know department leader if they want to do childrens happens on they said I need one hundred dollars. I don't want to say our good list schedule a meeting right now if you want to spend say a few thousand dollars slow down. Let's get the board together. But if at the board they say you know what we need a new parking lot. It's going to be sixty thousand dollars. You can't take those twelve people say all in favor say you've got to take that to a church but so there's gradations of responsibility right there's a tiered structure departments board and the business or the business session meets only usually just a couple times a year the board meets every month to go over the work of the church. Now again we just talk about finances and we can all sit here and assume that the work of the church is choosing the carpet the paying the bills but friends that's not the work of the church. What is the work and function of the church what does the church exist to do yes. To win souls to evangelize win the World and hasten the coming of Jesus your board meeting should talk about the thing you exist to do that makes sense. This is already written in the manual again from the two thousand version. The Gospel commission of Jesus makes evangelism preach proclaiming he would do the gospel of the primary function of the church. It is therefore also the primary function of the board which serves as the chief Committee of the church so far making sense. Yes. When Now listen to this is already written in the manual. To some of you like how can we get more lay involvement how can you. It's already in the book you're supposed to be following this most people are following it when the board devotes its first interest in the highest energies to not just and Vangelis and by the way every member evangelism. Most problems are alleviated or prevented and a strong positive influence is felt in the spiritual life and growth of members. OK So the opening paragraph before it even says number one it says Remember that the big picture is so winning and that's what the board exists to address. Then it breaks down in order. How you're supposed to do that with the agenda that by the way in the board means that I conduct. I always have a copy and paste of the work of the board on the back of our agenda. So if ever. Why are we always talking about evangelists of flip over to the other side. Please read the document come back you know number one and it lists out six items of agenda. Number one the most important item on the agenda should be the planning should be planning the vandalization of the outreach or mission territory of the church. Now notice this. In addition once each quarter. How many quarters are there in a year for how many months are in a quarter. Three good we can do our math right now listen with that math in Month think of this. In addition besides every meeting having the primary function of evangelism. In addition. Once each quarter an entire meeting should be devoted to plans for evangelism one of your board meetings every quarter should have no other agenda except how are we winning souls. That's in the manual that's a some newfangled idea. That's what we're supposed to be doing. It's go on the board will study conference recommendations for evangelistic programs and methods and how they can be implemented locally. Which kind of assumes your conference is thinking about evangelism. And they're giving you some guidance and you as a local church say look at the conferences recommending how can we make that work here it is assumed the conference is on board. We don't have time to get into that the pastor of the board will initiate and develop plans for public evangelists to campaigns. So I would urge you don't have your and I know that we're not talking message a roomful of pastors but knowing what the pastor should be doing helps the members giving you the tools to evaluate and be involved. OK. Number two coordinating outreach programs of departments was right there. According to this every department should be doing what outreach programs. Why do you have the Department of the church that you do. Why do you have deacons. OK to be to give functional service to those kind of the areas that's true. Why do you have women's ministry or community services or a Pathfinder's all of those should have a function of outreach in their department the church board is responsible for coordinating the work of all church departments each department of L. its plans for outreach when it within its own sphere to avoid conflict in timing and competition and securing volunteers and to achieve maximum beneficial results coordination is essential. When. The things you want to look at is the calendar. If a men's ministry want to do thing in a women's men's we want to do one thing they want the same Sunday bring it to the board. So you don't have conflict right there. The department also report to the board of the progress or results of their outreach programs we should have accountability from the departments. Hey you did a thing you did a Health Expo how many people came. Did we spend money. Well should we do something better should we do it again. Should we boost it up or kill it off some accountability. But most of the time we just do a thing somebody thinks that up. They do it. There's no accountability on how much money they spent and it's just a nebulous black hole of good intentions. And should be structured. OK The board may suggest how Department programs can contribute to the preparation and conduct and follow up of a public evangelist a campaign. Number three encouraging the personal ministries Department to enlist all members and children in some form of personal outreach or missionary service were on the agenda item number three and we're all talking about outreach and evangelism training classes should be conducted in various lines of outreach ministry. So personal ministries. Have you gotten every member of the church doing something if not why not. What are you doing to train that what are you doing to equip them how are we giving them resources. That's the work of the board check on a number for encouraging the interest coordinator and some of your saying the what I noticed the personal ministries and interest coordinator have been mentioned before deacons elders anybody else. Now the deacons and elders are in the room for the conversation but the work of the church people in encouraging the interest coordinator to ensure that every interest that is Bible study interest potential candidate for church membership is personally and properly followed up by and it does not say the pastor or the elder or the deacon It simply says by an assigned lay person. So you. You have a report just like a financial report if you're bored every month you should have an interest report we have generated you know that outreach thing we just talked about an item number two it generated twelve new interests here are their names here are the people who are following up with them. Here's the result of their work this month. This in assumes that the church understands it's about mission the departments are running outreach is and there's follow up with the interest that have been brought in by the laity number four a member five my already on five out of six. We're almost done with our meeting. Number five encouraging each department to report at least quarterly to the board and to members at business meetings or in Sabbath meetings. So every department now we've heard the good news here in the board but US thirteen people hearing about it is not the same thing as a whole church. How are you going to let people know you're doing a Sabbath morning that's good or going to do it a business being that's good. How are we going to disseminate has got to be e-mail got to be of something and finally the last item number six receiving regular reports. The board should consider details of church business and receive regular reports of the treasure of the church's finances. Now does the very last thing you're supposed to talk about is the church's finances by the way if you make the mission first and foremost is foremost finances tend to take care of themselves. Didn't Jesus say something along the lines of Seek ye first the kingdom and then all these things will be added unto you. I promise you if you have a depart. If you have a church board that's focused on a banjo in every department is looking for ways to work together and work for the saving of souls every member is trained equipped to do the work of God They're probably going to be faithful type and offering givers to there's a purpose is a function and by the way. How's the money doing or good cool the spare has for prayer. That's the board should study the membership record and inquire into the. Ritual standing of all members and provide visits to sick discouraging backslidden members of the church that I mentioned this before the church I'm currently pastor has three hundred seventy seven members on the books. Has about one hundred sixty in the pews on Sabbath and I've started asking that you know there was a time in the seven demonstrates when accountability was more the norm. You would go to Sabbath school and you would sign in they would have like how much literature did you give away this week. You know. Those were countability things personally I'd like to see that come back a little bit. So every week in the church bulletin now we say last week's search attendance was this last week Sabbath school attendance was this and we've recently added last week's prayer meeting attendance was this and it goes triple digit double digit single digit but it's a standing rebuke what I'd like to do is put out another one of the top membership on the books. So in our current church we'd say three seventy seven one sixty ninety twelve. I'd also like to add a number of people attending the last church business meeting. Let me just give you a little history on this one we had a quorum you had to set a quorum you know decorum is right the threshold at which you can actually call it a meeting of them that you're just hanging out it was forty people which was roughly ten percent of the church membership they said or at least ten percent of people who show up in order to conduct the business of the church sounds reasonable. When I arrived at the church. One two three four business is meetings in a row. They failed to meet quorum could not conduct the business of the church because not enough people showed up to the meeting to make it a actual meeting. So we. I do think we need to lower the Koran. But how do you lower the quorum if there's not enough core in there to vote on the lowering of Corum. What do you do we got creative. OK We can either call a church business meeting or every Sabbath morning is a church business meeting but we don't want to go through the dirty laundry of you aren't showing up to business meetings so if you don't want that. So what we did was just like you do nominating committee report you submit the recommendation for a first reading just you notice in your bulletin it says this today. Please review that if you have any questions please talk to the elder pastor and we'll be taking a second reading on it in a vote next hour. So that the vote has no discussion. You've already had a week to look at it you know and we just had a line and we'd like to rule over the corn from forty to twenty five and the following Sabbath. We took a vote and you go because we had two consecutive business meetings called church services. That's right but you had to get creative right and praise the Lord you haven't missed a quorum yet we have had a meeting of twenty six. But it counts. You know but I'm telling you there is those people who show up to stuff are the ones that move the church. We're going to get into this in the second in the second session. Not today but tomorrow. OK but the number one thing you can start doing to move the ship of your church in the correct direction is show up to stuff coming to see is great but going to prayer meeting is better for the Sabbath school. It's in worship service on time. Well dressed in prepared if you go to a function with food say a potluck by all means bring a dish. You know you're a good one. Thank you. Not that thing you like oh that's a potluck food no no no you bring the best you know have a wedding it came the type of experience you know that was the two thousand. In addition of the manual. Gives you the preface there what the church board exist to do. And the six agenda items are something. Now let's move into the future or the present as a church menu two thousand and fifteen. I don't know if you notice this but in the two thousand fifteen general conversation not only to vote on women's ordination but there was a change to the purpose of the church. Yep you got to pay attention meetings matter. And listen to this. There's a new statement in the seven church manual of twenty two fifteen it was not in two thousand and ten. It says this The purpose of the church as the Body of Christ is to intentionally disciple members. So that they can continue in active in faithful relationship with Jesus with Christ and His Church. No that's I'm not going to I'm not going to take up my harangue about language that disciple isn't a word it's not a verb at least it's a noun that comes from the process of discipline but OK. But notice the language is the purpose of the Church of the Body of Christ is to intentionally disciple members. It could be very easily construed to say that the church now exists to build up its own members. Instead of creating new and through eventually. Because that could be a misconception. I have added a footnote in these notes. OK It comes from Christian service page sixty nine. Because if the purpose of the church is to grow the spirituality of its members which of course you want to have growth of spiritual You must remember. But if that's the purpose of the church. Let me add this little some thought in here Christian service page sixty nine. Let members let ministers teach church members that in order to grow in spirituality. They must carry the burden that the Lord has laid upon them. The burden of leading souls into the truth. So you could say Oh we used to be about soul winning but now we're about building me up for fun but if you want to be built up the only way to do it is to go in a sole right. She can use those who are not to filling their responsibility that is of the church membership should be visited prayed with labored for do not leave people depend up on you as ministers teach them rather they are to use their talents and giving the truth to those around them in the US working they will have the cooperation of heavenly angels and live tain an experience that will increase their faith and give them a strong hold on God if you want a strong hold got increase your faith and have a richer experience be about evangelism and you will grow as a result. Fair enough. So I agree with this statement as long as it's correctly understood from the inspired Council. OK. Discipleship it continues to explain is based on an ongoing lifelong relationship with Jesus the believer commits to abiding in Christ to being trained for faithful discipleship by sharing Jesus with others here we go as well as to lead as to leading other members to also be faithful disciples the church individually and collectively shares responsibility for ensuring that every church member remains part of the Body of Christ. So there's that new a new purpose of the church that was just voted in twenty fifteen. Now the work of the reboot of the board has been altered to accommodate the new understanding of what the church exists to do. Are we still on the same page right now that hold the Gospel Commission making evangelism proclaiming the good news is the primary function the church this primary function board all that is gone now. Now when you go to the section it says the work of the board. It simply says the board is responsible too and it lifts off now not six things but ten things. Now I want to be clear those six we just covered before are still in there but they start at number four and go to number nine four five six seven eight nine yeah my math is right but there's a new one to three and a new ten. OK. So I'm not going to go over the same six we just covered but I will introduce you to the new number one two and three and also the additional ten. Are we making sense. All right here we go. The new number one for the church board is this ensure that there's an active ongoing discipleship plan in place which includes both spiritual nurture and Outreach Ministries. OK so it's still there and principal. This is the most important item for the churches attention for the board's attention. Number two study membership lists and initiate plans for reconnecting the reclaiming members who have separated from the church that was one of the last things an item number six. Now it's number two. OK Now again some of people say that's a great thing. Some people say out of Regardless we should be caring for those I as a pastor should help with along with the elders audit the membership books to see who's really actually coming to church and work for those who aren't and make an honest reckoning of who is a member of the church right. That should be a thing to have accurate book you wouldn't do that with the finances to have ten thousand dollars in bank I think about five but whatever. If you did that with money you'd be out but we do it. People all the time we should keep accurate records of people to OK. Number three train local church leadership in how to encourage intentional spiritual growth in themselves and others. I'm trying to get out of my vocabulary phrases like I'll be honest with you now because it implies that I have been dishonest with you. Up until that point but in all candor. I'm not sure. I understand that since I've read it over and over and over and I'm not sure I understand I'll read it to you again and tell me if you can understand it. Train local church leadership. So the past the do boards job is to train the local leadership in how to encourage intentional spiritual growth in themselves train the leaders on how to grow themselves. I think that's what it means and others. So I'm not saying I don't understand it at all but it definitely is about. Intentionally raising the spiritual quality of the experience of the leadership and through them. The membership. I would again urge the best way to reduce your spiritual life is to breathe spiritual life into someone else and. My fear is that it can become self focused. OK. Either way. And by the way the new number ten. So only three words promote Adventist what you think the next word is education. OK. Thankfully one of about to read has not been changed at all. Both the two thousand and the two thousand and fifteen has the following statement at the conclusion of the work of the board section and it is this. The board should permit no other business to interfere with planning for evangelism should other business be too time consuming the board should appoint committees to care for specific areas of church business such as finance or church building projects such committees but then make recommendations to the board. So as soon as you get say fifteen minutes into that conversation about the budget or the building project you say wait a minute too much time is being taken at the board for something that should be subcommittee doubt appoint a subcommittee of three or four are right. Building a property finance committee you're going to look at this treasury you're going to look at this. We're going to keep our eye on the ball up here a discipline board will continue to look at all. The thing. Now I'm saying. This to you because I'm assuming that all of you either are or some day maybe even soon will be in a position of leadership in a local church. This is what your board is supposed to do. Let's go on it. Mention personal ministries way up there right. What is the person ministries department a church. Well the person ministries if you are arse third session was that ministry that has died and somehow nobody noticed it used to be used to be proof use it used to be replete the church was just filled it was the life blood it was the heartbeat of the church and now it has become a literature rack right somehow to everybody is kind of lost sight of it. The personal ministries according to the even the current church manual is supposed to be the heartbeat of the church breathed life into it and the manual says this the twenty fifteen version from pages one hundred one hundred one quote personal ministries provides resources and trains members to unite their efforts with those of the pastor and officers and soul winning service. It also has primary sponsibility for programs assisting those in need. OK but notice the first one provides resources. Thus the literature right. But also trains the members and how to work. Most are doing well to provide the literature at all much less the training the supposed to go along with it. That's the person ministry spokesman job. It describes the Council of person ministries department is this the person ministries Council guides the outreach efforts of the church and works under the direction of the board the council should meet at least once each month. How often does the board meet once each month. So there's two meetings every month and should consist of the pastor and Elder the treasures and leaders of other departments that sounds strikingly like the board. It's kind of a miniature It's an executive committee of the board which is itself an executive in it the whole church is the prime. Every subcommittee of the board if you will. That's the pastor the Treasurer an elder and other department leaders and what's the purpose of person ministries to get every member involved in Angelus and we used to call it lame ministry by the way I think the reason was that they didn't want to continue disconnect between clergy and laity So he's called it personal. Ministries. Also I think that people are making fun of it and saying go home and sat back into my lane ministries and take a nap. But if the person ministry is now the council should meet once let month. Anyway the person ministries Council may assign subcommittees for a specialized task also subcommittees report to Mercer ministries Council the person as you Council and leader are responsible for organizing small group ministries so small groups it's not something that you have like a new workshop that comes in like it's an outside thing we're going to try. It's written into the manual already the person ministry leader trains and directs members an outreach service and chairs the person ministry Council the leader reports Now notice I want you to check catch this it might fly by the leader the person ministry leader reports in The Monthly church outreach Sabbath service the what the monthly church outreach Sabbath service. Apparently And we'll get into this a little bit later on. Once every month you should have an outreach mission Sabbath with the whole purpose of that is to hear reports about what's been going on in exciting testimonies for those who have been reached by our outreach projects. I guarantee you there are many many churches who would have a hard time doing that service once a year much less every third Sabbath or every third Sabbath of the month. You know the thing is our outreach Sabbath. Let's get testimonies we got have that many testimonies every Yep. What does that imply that there's something going on to talk about right. The leader reports in The Monthly church outreach or mission Sabbath service and business meetings about local church local about total outreach activities of the congregation assistants may be assigned to coordinate the Bible correspondence school that every church is supposed to have the Bible correspondence school for giving Bible studies every church should have a school for giving Bible studies. It just assumes it bible evangelism literature distribution in gathering or equivalent appeals small group ministries member training and other so winning programs. So notice that and I'm trying to make this is clear as I can the whole purpose of the church is to win souls in the highest authority of the church and business session the board has its primary goal of winning souls and the site pulling. Members. The primary subcommittee of the board is the personal ministries Council and its job is to train and equip every member for missionary service and to make sure that every six months we have a report on it in the church service from the top all the way down to the from the biggest collaborative to the lowest individual every part of the church is built on outreach and so when the church does not exist for you to hear a good sermon every Sabbath. Now is go by the bible school thing. The Bible school coordinator anybody and here the Bible School for the local church. Yes. One two and a half to two to four to three full to people. All right good from the manual page one the bible school coordinator organizes and coordinates the churches Bible school outreach ministry to the community. The coordinator should work closely with the pastor the interest coordinator and the personal ministries leader. There's that term. Again the interest coordinator is their job to coordinate things to make them more interesting know would be great if you had an interesting corner and interesting coordinator. But you leave churches like that wasn't very interesting. Let's go talk to the coordinator want to put together some interesting foursome now it's not our interest in the church service it's their interest in Jesus Christ right. And they're supposed to coordinate those who are interested in learning more about the truth of the Word of God. Now here's their job description still in this current manual. So I'm raising it high and interest coordinator should be elected to make sure that interests develop through the churches outreach mission activities are cared for promptly. Let's walk through again the church exists to win souls the board exists to execute that mission. And it is a collaborative of all the leaders and department heads in each of their departments there to do outreach programs. Yes And through those programs they receive interests. Why do you do a Health Expo. Yes it's to check blood pressures and to get interests. Why do we have vacation bible school to get interests. The whole purpose of anything we doing is that make people interested in Jesus and the truth of His Word. So as those outreach programs go on. Let's say that you had a Health Expo and that from that you had say eight interests come in. Would you say I preceded Here's your real health age here's your cholesterol whatever it is you do. And by the way would you be interested in Bible studies because you know the one who made this body created you in this image and wants you know just give me a quick little one sentence spiel would you like it would you be interested in. I'm is going to say you know I probably not only should I stop eating. You know obviously I need to lose a little weight and I could probably get back to God it would be the worst day and they're just casually Sure I might be interested but there's something in there so you got to a stack of cards with names addresses phone numbers e-mails. What happens with those cards they go to the careful now the interest coordinator now is the interest coordinators job to carefully and reverently bring those to the pastor. I want to read this verbatim. Listen to this again an interest coordinator should be elected to make sure that interest of Elop to the church is missionary outreach are cared for promptly this person is a member of the board in the personal ministries Council and works directly with a pastor in chairman of that council duties of this office including There's only three number one. Keeping an organized list of all interest received by the church. So you should have an interest coordinator at all and their primary job is to list out all the current interests. If I were to ask you how many Bible studies are going on at your church right now would you be able to answer. Are there five are there fifty how far along in the process they just getting started. Are they on lesson twelve what resources are they using what member is working with them. What what's the status. We should hear about it every month just like we hear about the finances we should hear about the interests because that's our purpose as a church. Number two assisting the pastor in chairperson of the person ministries Council and enlisting and recruiting qualified members for follow up service. So not only is this if they have a list of interests they should also have a list of people who would follow up with those interests and those people are members not pastors not Bible workers. Not employees. They're just members who are willing if an interest comes up to follow up with them and give them the Bible study. So the interest coordinators job. I know the sounds look technical is to coordinate the work with those interests. Here's the interests and here's sister Sally over here who needs a Bible study putting together a sister. Sally don't wait a month we want it done in two days. If someone by the way if someone comes their health checks but on a Sunday. It's my personal philosophy this is not in the manual so you can disregard it. But I think the church should respond faster than Amazon Prime. We should act like this stuff is important because it is right they should get a knock on the door. Hi I'm with and here's a great thing. Don't just say I'm from the whatever countersue seven church say I'm with Bible study offer dot com or I'm with John can we say it is written. Are we allowed to invoke that term or he's good with it. All right. I'm affiliated with it is written and I see that you asked for a some Bible study guides. I'm here to give them to you open to them. Would you like me to study with you if not that's OK but I'll come back next week at this time is a good time to follow up. I just want to make sure you got us for. We're so excited. You came to the health or have a great day. You don't have to be of noxious. But be diligent write the interest or number three. I love this got to hear it. Presenting to the board a monthly report on the number of interest received and followed up final sentence is the real kicker. When an interest is sufficiently developed it should be shared with the pastor. Who's doing all that development of the interest before the pastor even. Church members. So they're the ones doing outreach they're the ones gaining interest they're the ones following up they're the ones giving a Bible study and when they're sufficiently developed like this one could be ready for the kingdom pastor I'd like to introduce you to the person I've been working with. So the pastor should walk around so you have a multi church by the way if a church was run like this with a pastor have to be stuck at one church. The you know there are parts of the world where the pastor just kind of goes around to multi I'm not talking two or three districts up in the U.P.C. for anybody who knows Michigan you know I'm talking about I'm time of those places where there's ten twenty thirty or more churches for one pastor and you know they spend their entirety doing their entire life doing. Holding evangelism campaigns checking in the churches already established and baptizing the new members organizing them for service and then moving on into a new again. This is why in that earlier presentation I said that the places in the world with the church is growing fast as are the places where the few is pastors. It is not because the pastors here are doing a bad job if they're just doing the wrong job they're doing your job and me church members aren't doing any job. And I want to be clear when I say doing a job. I don't mean holding an office. I don't care if an ordained elder or deacon or if you have a title or if you're on the board every member should be studying with someone to bring them into the faith. Every member. That's the interest. Most people and I will give this presentation. Not only don't have an issue. They've never even heard of the concept. That's why I say the most radical lay driven document we have in the seventies church is the one we vote on as a world church every five years. Just nobody ever reads the thing. It's for free by the way not the hard copy to have to pay for that one but just download it. Do a little google search S.T.H. manual P.D.F. download make a little link right there on the cover of your Read it. Open it up and i Books you can flip through it. Don't have to lose your page. It's just sitting there anyway when it's gone out reach services we talked about that monthly outreach service continues when you say church man or page one twenty two the first Sabbath of each month is does not say should be or could be it says is. The church outreach or missionary Sabbath. This worship service focuses on Lay evangelism. What kind of evangelism lay evangelism. And may feature plans and activities of various departments. So would it be great if you know. A name a department a church a one Sabbath School thank you. One of Sabbath school is responsible for this when you have a few personal testimonies and samples will get up and says here's what we've been doing is our department and here's the plans for the future. Here's how we need your help. Thank you so much as our heads for what a prayer and there's a church service is testimonies and plans watching the Lord leading get making an appeal for everyone to be involved and head in the potluck once a month. Page one eighty two it revisits this concept in order to strengthen and develop the outreach missionary spirit among our church members auxiliary personal ministries meetings might be conducted in one or more of the following ways you might want to add in addition to all of those things you're already doing. You might think that's not quite enough. So why don't you add this a. The ten minute weekly personal ministries meeting held each Sabbath usually following the close of the Sabbath school and proceeding the church preaching service. So in between Sabbath school and church the old intermission time. If you've got a ten minute block. Why don't you do every week more testimonies or highlight this week we want to talk about this Glo tractor this Bible study guide or the sharing booklet or this D.V.D. that we have the website highlight some way either they can be trained for effective service or reports on the services are going on but every week ten minutes. In addition to the full service you do every month be a mid-week meeting combined with the weekly prayer meeting. On this occasion the first part of the service may be given to a devotional message followed by a season of prayer remembering that worship isn't vital in spiritual growth in preparation for service right. It's not to take the place a prayer but don't just pray and leave pray and think and work. The remainder of the time may be devoted to training for Lay evangelist ex-urban. Instruction in sewing methods is presented and the members are given opportunity to present and discuss problems they have had met in lay evangelism by the way when you meet and encounter some problems and problem people. Yes it is the time to discuss those pains in your side the Sabbath morning service and no but it might be a good thing to have a format where people can get together say yes we've had these successes but I also run into this guy who's always doing this and there is one sister who keeps canceling What should I do and you kind of troubleshoot and learn from others and sharpen as iron sharpens iron you know your work you should have a format for that every week where all those people doing the work come together and talk about the work and glean from each other's strength right now what about number care and I have no idea no clue what time it is when does the stop fifteen minutes ago. Are you serious. I am so sorry. All right. You see the manuals interesting other people said amen Muslims. Yeah remember camera crew member pastors and elders what is it who's going to care for the all the members. If everybody all the members of can for other people of the manual just as that to you think all the pastors visitation the pastor does some visitation. Let me explain the difference been a pastor an elder and a deacon as it's already written in the books in the conference committee. If I love this language. If the conference committee. I forgive you. If the conference committee assigns a pastor or pastors to the congregation notice that and if if you happen to have an assigned pastor from the conference is not an expectation but if you do. The pastor or senior pastor if more than one should be considered the ranking officer in the local elders as assistant so they are the assistant pastor function. Right. Since their work is closely related they should work together harmoniously the pastor should not assume all lines of responsibility but should share these with the elders and other officers now knows this the past or all work of the church should be shared by the pastor in the elders in council with the pastor the elder should visit members. Ministers of sick Foster prayer ministries arrange or lead out in anointing Services and Child educations encourage the disheartened and assistant other Pastore responsibilities. So they counsel with the pastor and the pastor of course can do his part. But he is just one elder among others. Right and responsibility shared among them all. OK Because now listen to this because the pastor is appointed to the business of the church by the Conference the pastor serves the church as a conference employee is responsible to the conference committee and maintains a sympathetic and cooperative relation to and works with in harmony with all the plans and policies of a local church the primary responsibility of the past. It is not to the local congregation it's the conference. And I know that sounds like heresy. He's our Pastor Wright who are the people who are there on the ground to have the spiritual nurture and care of the church over the long term of the elder That's why Paul left Titus in Crete to organize a set in order the things that are lacking to a point elders in every church. Right. It's a biblical concept. Elders who are elected by the church are responsible to that body and its board says in the manual. From the elders Handbook by the way as I'm almost on a promise planning for home visitation should be a regular part of the elders meeting visitation to be assigned to local to leading church members gifted and trained in that particular ministry such programs are often called a parish or under Shepherd plan where membership is usually divided into geographic zones and elder of assisted by Deacon or deaconesses could be in charge of a parish zone. The pastor and elders lead out in the visitation plan and other programs that build spiritual strength and church by and by the way you can get this on the document it also includes deacons deaconesses And finally every church member. So the pastor helps organize with the elders and they divvy it up into parish zones they get deacons and deaconesses involved and Deacon the deacon this is pull in other members. So who's caring for the members. The members. By the way who fed the five thousand. Right. It wasn't just Jesus and it wasn't just his disciples. Why were they organized in ranks. So they could feed each other. Why do we organize as a church at all to build up our own spiritual walk in the best way to do that is work together for the winning of souls. Finally I'm going to close with this inspired Council. You can find this one person search Christian Service pages sixty six sixty nine I would encourage you just go ahead. Read the whole book. Preaching is a small part of the work to be done for the salvation of souls. God's Spirit convicts sinners of the truth and he play. This is them in the arms of the church the ministers may do their part but they can never perform the work that the church should do. Ministers may preach pleasing in forcible discourse as in much labor may be put forth to build up and make the church prosperous but unless its individual members shall act their part as servants of Jesus Christ the church will never will ever be in darkness and without strength. The minister should not feel that it is duty to do all the talking and all the laboring and all the praying he should educate helpers in every church let different ones take turns in leading the meetings and in giving Bible readings and in so doing they will be calling in to use the talents which God has given them and at the same time be receiving the training as workers. And finally this one the best help ministers can give the members of our church is not sermonizing. But planning work for them. Give each one something to do for others help all to see that his receivers of the grace of Christ. They are under obligation to work for him and let all be taught how to work especially should those who are newly come to the faith be educated to become laborers together with God. Let me ask you a question I know it's not the typical lecture seminar thing but did today's presentation at least make sense. Was it clear the seventh Avenue the church was built to be a lay driven organization and it still is. It's not some historical relic that we dust off and look in a museum. Hot off the presses still says all those things. So when you go back to your local church my appeal to use number one read the manual. I'm not saying it's inspired you get what I'm saying. But it's a great guy to how the church should run based on biblical principles and start putting And whatever your corner of the shop is start moving the ship and that's the title of our next or how sermon presentation how to start moving the ship of the local church in that direction but perhaps gently Father thank you so much for this day. Thank you that you give us the privilege of cooperation with you in this grand work of salvation these for. Of us will be a fallen short story indeed. Let every member of your movement be a missionary for you were great and she just this message was presented at the G Y C twenty sixteen conference when all has been heard in Houston Texas a supporting Ministry of the Seventh Day Adventist Church seeks to inspire young people to be bible based Christ centered and so winning Christians for other resources like this visit us online at W.W.W. dot G Y C Web dot org.


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