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Business Management

David Obermiller Brad Johnson

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During this class we will learn about the legal issues that farmers and artisan food producers face. Taxation. Insurance, GAP, and innovative business models. Keeping the books (basic accounting). 

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  • January 27, 2017
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This is business management learn about the legal issues that farmers an artesian food producers face taxation insurance gap and innovative business models. Keeping the books basic Cowing so just mainly Jews going to be she's kind of does a lot of business stuff of what we have on our farm so I'm going to just run through a few things to kind of just give you a little bit of a show look few things about it. Come a smattering of things here to start with and she's going to get a more of the detail of the actual regulation and book stuff so. Our operation is a small family farms you deny or the directors we personally have as we have set up a corporation N L O C N A trust to help us with a lot of realty in-text management. I mean family partnerships and family S corpse as a my own and personally I like being in business as. As myself cooperating with others. Yes but dividing into these and knowing what I'm responsible for in money time equipment and land. I like this website. It's helpful for family business planning ideas. You can see the general idea on the front page but more details as you open it not only one not the not only one only not only the one place but a place to get some education and maybe help. The form you're a legacy project and there's a lot of other a lot of other things out there besides is this is one that I've kind of. I get e-mails to and I get updates from their local their local the person who actually presents things in here is about thirty miles away from my place and. And so you know even though they don't show that here it looks like an international or a national website whatever and it probably is but. Anyway another just a sideline of book that I've kind of enjoyed reading. It's called the ultimate gift. It's a book I found helpful. It's it's presented more in the story form as kind of more of a parable of character development for. For business. And so it's just something I've just sort of know here. So I'm do all or. I think if you google it. The open give you might you have to mix it up with some other other books in there too but it's a story about. A wealthy own landowner who dies and he he gives a structure to his lawyer for his nephew to go through certain steps to inherit anything from him and develop that he goes through over a year's time to do that and what it what it does for him. So in case you're wondering if you know what the content was. So I'm touching on this briefly and if there's more time and you have questions after do you part we can do that. Maybe some more details that you might be interested in terms of how we manage what we do. This is just a very simple scenario. That I think it's you know try to keep it simple. Of course business make money use it wisely. It's you know I can elaborate on that more as a lot more detail of that but just you know sometimes you forget. If you don't keep it simple. So be prepared to handle the business side of things. If you want to be a come a former being well versed in all aspects of business. Balance sheets profit loss payroll bookkeeping marketing production is a good idea to be involved with and know you might have to do it all but at least it's helpful to know what how to read things. If you even if you have an accountant. What do you what are you looking at you know but it's also helpful because it was on a day to day basis we still have to know. Oh what's going on in our business. I generally I'm always considering the cost. Whether it be fertilizer or packaging or whatever looking at the root material and not taking every sales man's opinion about their products. I research them look at alternatives compared to conventional reasons through options and cost and benefit to make decisions. We try to make each vegetable crop profitable and do our best to measure its success. Sometimes on a daily basis. Factoring immediate pricing boxes labor and overhead weather to continue harvest like the old song. You got to know when to hold em know when the fold them know when the walk away and when the run it are vegetable broker has helped us weed out what NOT to grow for fish and seas investable production for example we decided cucumbers where better crop for us to grow them bunch beats. More Labor same price per box for beets and not growing beets or winter crops gives us time to rest a while. Here you just see a table of our bunch bees we've been harvesting all the feel now we're going to start packing in the boxes. We probably just finished washing you know the mud and whatever else all of them and that's just me in the middle in the sure you can't read that it didn't come out of roses beats me on the sure that's why I put that in there and then the cucumbers you know this is this last year we decided to change our production of cucumbers and we actually put them under shade and we trust them and it was a big improvement. Well before we were picking all up off the ground. As a greater fuel cucumber and distillate of that alone was just you know the cucumber crew was not always the you did you know you didn't want always be on the cucumber crew you know if this was all day been over picking up people overs and put them on the belt and. This is made a lot more pleasant you were going to seed in us aside I think but. So in our tree crops. They're not as flexible to modify trees or long term sometimes taking seven to fifteen years to be profitable. So you're generally in it for the long haul. You know one time quite a few years ago prune prices have changed now. But. You know years ago they were on the downhill slope for quite a bit and we were trying to say whether we were going to put in. On some lease ground. So I talk to Mike out and then he ran all the numbers and you know just an average of what we were getting at the time what it cost for production and he ran the numbers out based on what I gave him he said looks like that about your fifteen year we break even and so you know those are some of the numbers that we've got with that it just it just varies it's not the only one but it's something to consider when you're going to put a crop in long term. But it's all over the board. I had a perm crop that one orchard I planted when you're seem like it took me ten years before I even got production. We went through we got went through the first few years when you don't have any and then we went through three or four years when the whole industry didn't have any because it was dry during the boom time and we know none of us got a fruit much you know you know and so it just. But then eventually it caught up and we were getting good production. So it did pay off in the long run but it was calm like wow we're going to read anything out of this. So just it just varies but as much as possible. We try to keep our place in order and looking good with a wholesome neat appearance though a challenge sometimes and not always easy to do considering use equipment and so I was materials we use for our operation as you can see on the right. The priority of the media. It is a bit messy at times. But it is always something come back to. I often tell people who come to visit what you see is what you get meaning at any given time of the year depending on what we're doing that is what you get to see. This is just and we've retired this. Whole box on the Right now it's historic. Now we used to be our cooler that's the only cooler we have for quite a while for a produce. And then this and this our cucumber. You see this is we netted this. This is you can see can't see very well but so we ran our cucumbers up this year and this is them when they're young. Just before we started shooting and we just put stakes in and yes you know we we just we trolls are just like we do or tomatoes and we end up spreading the fabric right over the top of them if I if I did it. Better I would have which in the past I've gone to like a recycle place and bought. Plastic bottles that would fit right over the top of the stakes because then they would rub holes in them in the fabric and on the long run bar we better put a hoop piles up or hoop up and put it up. That way but that's just a more a cultural thing in this case we pick with cars. Yeah. Before we're taken with with we so we when we do our tomatoes stick tomatoes on our cucumbers. You know we pick all with carts and then we just shade for the tomatoes we have this year when updating that the carts so that all day long for the workers and for the fruit. So now Diddy's going to take over part of this the legal issues that farmers in produces these gap and some of the story. So the farm farm life which is often more than. Why we got out of it out on all the work women and there are some are in your later. Arms. We want before that we case so I'm I'm just going to kind of I mean very touching the tip of the iceberg here on the business involves the business side and I think that one thing is is you. I put our search up here. Deciding if you want to be organic and I know on small or smaller cells and stuff. Some of your customers don't require your certificate. If you get into the markets or stores or anything like that they're going to require you to have your certificate and I think some some at least out in California. Farmers markets also require that. So we use Quick Books and. The requirements are few years their payroll program. You can use the same year for three years and then you have to upgrade to the latest version. And so I haven't decided if I want to grade the seventeen million or not. But then if you're what I really if you are doing a business you know pretty well I mean a business not just gardening. I would suggest some kind of accounting program. Because it will Paul it will save you a lot of time and I'll do a lot of the work for you people put in when you put your entries in and I'll pull up reports rather than have me and. And look at paperwork all the time and do a lot of calculations. So we have the payroll service on us change assign a second. This is just an example of our invoice seen when we have a sale to a store or a customer and how you would enter that stuff in our in your invoice in the Quick Books and it's it's I trying to see here I guess I have I can't read my screen now. But anyway this is how you enter an invoice. And and here's a payment plan their customer page view. It will have your invoice number there and you'll click that and a little zero it out your charge and your and and then you'll be good there and then you can deposit from there which I didn't put the positive in pictures and here. This is kind of the place as far as Quick Books goes but if you're going to be in any kind of cell and any stores and stuff that's already were required to do. I don't know that you're necessarily required to do this yet but you will be. It's kind of your global number they assign you. So anyone in any store can scan a number and they'll know it's well a farms in our case and that's not a G.I. and number to G T I N number. A G ten numbers what they call it a little mistake on the bottom there. So the next slide shows. Our bill of lading So when a truck comes to pick up our order. This is our Bill of Lading that we keep a copy and we stand one with the truck goes to the by the customer and you can see the. Deaton number there. It's our number plus year. You're given the number for each commodity you have so there's a number I added onto our Gita number that's for Roma tomatoes. So when it gets to the store they can just scan that number and they know it's Roma tomatoes from only farms and they. Yes well we arm ourselves market her does this job for us which is nice. They they do a lot for us as far as all the Gap requirements are in food safety and traceability this is a traceability issue here. And so our sales market or he has R G ten number and then his number dollar commodities and so as they're doing the orders they actually do our Bill of Lading So we just turn them around and they're ready to go in as a federal food safety and and just also for traceability on here. I'll explain that the date is done in the Julian calendar so that was the two hundred twentieth day of the year which was August eighth. Of sixteen which you see in the front there and then that for for three is as were keeping track of our lot numbers which is days we've picked and what we had that is our four hundred forty third Palla that we did and that has these numbers on them that will trace back and all kind of go into tracing trace. It's a benefit. Yes actually they like to not have to go and count all their inventory in their. Cooler. And so they can just scan things and when it comes out it scan and it's not there anymore. And so it really is helpful to them to keep track of. OK Here's back to Quick Books how you would enter a bill and that's just kind of what it looks like and that'll keep you can see on the right hand side the bills that have been made to them and paid to them and you can have a quick glance if you're behind a payment or has the dates and stuff you've forgotten or if you've kind of have a mix up you thought you paid some but then looked like you did and maybe you did and they sent you an invoice and you can clear it up pretty fast that way. So now I'm going to move in. Like I said I'm kind of touching the surface. You know if you have any questions feel free to ask about Quick Books or any kind of invoice seen and all that kind of thing. I. There's a way with Quick Books I may be of wait til I get to state so labor requirements. We on Fortunately from ploys have two sides of our time sheet it's pretty detailed and the reason it is is we have a lovely labor commissioner come visit us and he told us that he said I understand what you're doing on the larger one. But the one on the right is what he requires it. When he comes and checks out your your time cards and your hours with your employees. He wants to see time in rest period time out for lunch time and rest period time out at the end of the day if it's regular time or if there's overtime and he wants to just be able to glance outside and know the. That's what easy the the wording on the bottom. They're required to have no work no more than five hours to have a lunch. They're required to have a ten minute break half half of that five hours. Well if they're choosing not to that's basically they're saying I know that I'm required to have this and I chose not to contradict cover a year for you. And so all the time card on the left is more for us to keep the cost accounting and efficiency and all that kind of thing. So from this time card it gets entered into a time sheet which I'll have in Quick Books here coming up. But how many hours and where they worked. So you can see zucchini and sunbursts and cucumber xox cetera. They mark in the day. How many days they worked with that commodity and then we enter that into our payroll she and you can see what what feel like we've got a camel feel to Terry field. Hopkins. So it's where they work. What they did. And then you see those little numbers like that so struck farms and then there's a number and orchard and all that that is state compensation codes for us so we have an audit every year and every six months they want to say What are costs were in each of these they're all different percentages of fees. Could you say half fifty to pay and so. It's so much easier when you have this to. Go by to pull up the reporting to get those numbers for for reports and for audits for them and it really does track everything very nicely and then also from this it's you can see it has what commodity. And so it will pull up reports right here it says reports if you collect that. Then you can go in your payroll employ and you can come up with numbers for the costs that it's cost in new perm Floy for these commodities. Yes. Yeah you put the data in and then a look. It'll show like this on the time she. That can all be created per personally for you. Problem of right. Yeah you can always add or take out or pretty much you can't take out because if you have something in it you can market as an active and then it won't show up in reports anymore if you're not using it but you can't take it out because then if you have to go back and make a report then you won't have it in there it won't let you do that. Even actually make the whole thing you can you can pick a new and you can put you know farming climbing a ladder I mean you can write anything you want in there. Yeah you don't have to like choose from something you can actually make it exactly to what you're doing so the next as an example of the payroll center there is a schedule pair all and unscheduled like if somebody comes in late with extra hours or someone near you don't need them anymore and their limit for the scheduled payroll. Then you can give them a fine. I'll check and unscheduled payroll and basically from that time she then that's where you see these numbers come from from the truck farms as one person work five hours and in the truck an orchard twenty seven and the other Archer they work sixty two and so they work ninety four Hours in a two week period we do appear on a two week period payroll fees are different. They're coded differently for state compensation basically. There are different rates different percentage raids. So so we tracked this in our Quick Books and then we can just pull up report and just fill out the numbers for each of those and they have the numbers if I am. There's like a truck form then I have an zero zero seven five or something like that. So you know you have to initially put that in but then. You know it keeps track of everything for you. And then here's the pay liabilities window. So you know we depend on you or your payroll amount annually is what they'll assign to you how often you have to do your payroll taxes if it's very low. Sometimes you can get by with quarterly. For us we have to do a monthly if you really have a high payroll they'll make you do it weekly actually. But we have to pare disability unemployment taxes and all that we have to do that monthly and this is the window that I'll calculate that off for you from all the time sheets and payrolls that you. I've done during that month. We used to do it every week. But that's a lot of time it takes my daughter and I literally when we have a for like thirty employees at all. Take a sixteen hours to do the entries. Just because we're so detailed with our commodities and everything and sort of do that every week or. Yeah. So we. I was kind of I don't really want to do that to them but they're making twice I mean you know they're getting twice the amount in two weeks so it's the same amount of money. So it's worked a lot better doing every two weeks for us. You know. Or as far as what they do they have all that fitted in and they give you updates all the time of any changes they've made and anything like that and anything even so a lot of the food safety stuff the quire ments and the labor requirements that are with your State or Federal they will do updates and I will be included in your program. Yes they have they have all kinds of things you can choose from to have a questionnaire when you began and all animal say you know are you an accountant then you would go business accounting or agriculture around chain or whatever and there's a lot of accounts in there that will be out of call applicable to you and then you'll have to add some of your own and you can add your own accounts also I'm using the premier because I'm pretty detailed. Depending on how much you're doing you know you might not need the premier. No we don't. That's Paul. No no we are we had the choice if we want to be on we're comp and employees and we chose not to we have our own insurance and now they've made a new rule in California and I'm still trying to understand if we have to or not but there's like if you have some initial like were incorporated so we have so many shares of it and they're requiring us to have state and I'm trying to figure out a four in there we do baguettes quick does. I mean Brad I don't get it and Brad Brad gets paid as that as a contract labor as an independent contractor. That's how we've got it set up. It's just a matter of preference you can be employees with no problem and go through the state comp and everything. Yes I do. I just have a chart of accounts that contract labor. So then these are just an example and you can pull these up at the end of the year when you have your annual report you need to turn and these are all in your Quick Books for you and if you've done all your work with your your payroll and your payroll taxes and everything then you just click a button and that comes up and all your numbers are in there and you can send a man. So I guess I'm accounting program it doesn't have to be Quick Books necessarily but it will save you a lot of a lot of work right. Yes Quicken for a while when he was doing. Bob we were married for. Most of it. For more think the premier one here runs about four hundred. If you've got the payroll service. Where that peach tree one was like two thousand or something like that around. Or. So the Quick Books like for your payroll will have a questionnaire when you start and you put in your rates like what is your employment rate you know that they're requiring of you and all that kind of stuff to do right calculations and you always want to make sure that you've got those incorrectly. And pads correctly not in. So what starts we do have quite a few employees the labor commissioner. I mean they mean business. If they come to check you out so we like to make sure that we've got everything. And we have an employee that everything that we've gone through everything that we need to go through with them. So we've made an employee checklist and these are things on the checklist that we want to. Sure that we've covered with with our employees and we feel good about let them go out to the field and if we get chaffed and while I was going to kind of go over some of those layered application application is not necessarily mandatory at this point but you can have an application and I'll show you a picture of that later and then you want your W. four absolutely needed for and I nine. Notice of employer for us is stay calm. Notification And P.M.. Our notifications that that comp requires us to give employees. All of your claim and development issues here that we are required to give them. Of course you need a picture ID to see you don't have to keep one. If they're under eighteen. You need a work permit. And safety training time card all these things you need to show him where the labor laws are that you have. Stapled or pasted or somehow on a wall or there they can see I'm all those things and this is just for us this is something we do so that we know that we've covered everything you can look them up on line you can look labor laws up on line you can look. And I'm going to go through some of that here what you were where you can look at what you need to look how to to run a business. So here is an example of your eyeline form and I do want to say that again if they check these they're very picky on how they're filled out I don't know how many of you have done this or not. But you see on the right you have a B. and C. or B. and C. that or is very important to them don't fill out a B. and C. or they will not like that they'll find you five hundred dollars. It's a. A or B. and C. and you don't do a few deviancy. Here's an example of. Acceptable documents. For your I nine if you're hiring somebody. You know they're regular employees because we're not doing state compensation and everything we're just been independently working for farm. OK So we also have a handbook. Again I don't know depending on maybe the size size you are but there's a lot of the labor laws out there about no favorites no you know treat man one way and run the other and harassment and you know there's just a lot of things that you need to be aware of and so you know where you want to get yourself on the fairway. You know somebody is on their cell phone half a day or whatever you know all that kind of stuff and kind of clothes that are required for their safety. All that kind of stuff we make a handbook so that everybody's on the same page and then we have something that we can go by we need to fix something because it's not even just our personal preference of efficiency but it's also the labor laws higher up than us that are requiring or food safety or the OSHA. All of those have requirements idea of. I do and I'll get to just in this next slide. So we belong to Fell's which is farm employment labor service. There's an annual fee. This one's for California but farm is food through Farm Bureau and I believe they have one for all of your states and they anytime you have a question or anything. And this is actually a book and I'm going to show you our labor laws in California. This is the pages that we have to abide by and somewhat know what they are so. And this is the notebook. My daughter tried to take pictures for me of the tabs here. I can't really read it from here pesticides anything that has to do with with employees and here's something so. So you can call them any time with any question. They'll come out to you if in they'll teach you all these they'll go through all that with you. You have if you got into some kind of trouble with a disgruntled employee or whatever you have so much legal hours of legal annually it's been about a little over two hundred dollars now it's worth it. Yeah yeah that you can put up and. Yes they will now fells will come out and get you all educated if you so choose. Or if you're a member. You can have your own username and password and you go and all this is available. They'll go to you online. I use them a lot you know now we have in California the paid leave thing now and I would. It's really confusing how the rules they've made for that. So I call Mall time get clarified. So they're they're very helpful. So OSHA is another thing you need to consider when you have employees. That's for as you see Occupational Safety and Health Administration and. This is just one little example about heat safety but there's all kinds of things you know their clothes their their water all kinds that you need to consider in your operation if you have a choice. Here's your state. And. Obviously that's required if you're going to have a choice. And if you're having employees than you have an eye and number which is employment identification number. Now and this is a federal number and that is for your federal payroll taxes. Here is the state employment number for your violent development department your state taxes. Or is this is just yeah if their payroll Yeah I should do that. Yeah of now if you're doing pair of these are required. Yeah but there's a whole set of rules for that. So now your rules for your stay. To be. Yeah you really are. You know if you're not only in them for a short time and one or two you know you may want to. Look at Apprentice seen that years they will allow things like education all that. Yeah yeah it's it's really good and crazy. Even I don't even like to do piecework. You know employ more of an incentive to work faster to get paid by a piece you know like how many boxes they take rather than ours. You know but they've got real strict in California piece work hours and the lady actually did ours inspection organic inspection this year has been fined sixteen thousand dollars. She has a very small farm because of issues with her piecework so it's not that it can't be done is really understand what the laws are when you when you've implemented here. Well I'm my. My feeling is that I'll get easier with the new administration. I think is trying to I think our new administration from what I understand is trying to make it easier for businesses to function. Yeah maybe. Now we've done that. I mean I've done that you know you have to calculate when you what they make with their piece work it has to meet minimum wage requirements but California is really strict they've got all kinds of things power. And there and it's yeah we find it's I find it's easier. I find the labor commissioner in California very brutal. So anyway but now I'm going on to food safety and I am presenting this and I present some of the art Now if you saw this last year. I'm just going to go through it. Real quickly but this first lady. Kathy Carlson she does consulting for food safety and we nothing about what anything was when we were acquired to do this so we had her and she was very thorough and very nice and I quickly run through this because I am wanting to show you what they're expecting and this is a Federal this isn't just a state thing this is federal. So good. Our cultural practices. These are guidelines and they go through quickly if I'm going to quit for you. Let me know. But they're concerned about not only what you can see but we cannot see as micro as microorganisms and food borne illnesses. They're trying to of course make it so people don't get sick when you buy food and they're concerned about eco lie some analysis and Listeria. They are and this is a slide that she's put together that shows how fast they multiply salmonella. These are symptoms of salmonella and the duration. This is equal. I have a real bad case of course these hit young children babies and older people easier. Because. I mean systems but they can actually cause kidney. List areas same thing. Or you know you know people we've never had trouble with our farm and all of the issues it's never really gone back to the farm. I mean that we've seen. But more like me one hundred sixty. They want you to do what you say and say what you do and they want you to document everything. So they can be contamination because by hand shaking with their hands walking through water puddles and family. Yeah because if an animal has been through. Yeah maybe. Well if you walk. Yeah whizzes Yeah we're actually set a box down where you walked you know it's all that you have access. So how do we reduce the. Risks. They they are wanting us to look at our soil our water hygiene surfaces and while the domestic animals are always present in the soil. They want to look at your land history was there like it was a dump. Before you bought it or did you raise cows on it before you bought it an adjacent deal of downstream or downhill from a dairy where there's contamination runoff all that kind of stuff there. Want to look at all those things manure composting these are there rules for that rom a new application if you have a orchard. You're not allowed to fly any ninety days before harvest if it's any kind of vegetable or anything that touches the ground. Not to apply a hundred twenty days before harvest. So here's the land history they want to know if any of this you know is that or Ghana before was it not what had you have any flooding events that would have brought in contamination and the animals and the industries that were closer around where you are where you're farming this kind of explains the same adjacent to you Do you have any of that going on close to you that could affect your farm. Well. Well it could be it just is there what is adjacent like that could affect your farm like like I was saying that example say you're lower than a cattle farm. You know and and there's runoff of of you know if there was a lot of rain and runoff from the cattle manure and to where you're growing near your product that kind of thing is what they're worried about basically they're going to say don't pass for your product for face safety. So here is a good point you have to pass with eighty percent. With U.S.D.A. some are higher. There's there's us days not the only one that and inspect you here you can see our animal Horn This is an example of you don't want stuff like that that can cause terminations in your well water. You would use to water you're here or wash them a lot of. Yeah there's some flexibility there there's there's there's like an income range. Like are you a very small farm. Are you a small farm of when you need to be compliant with this. You know if your buyers aren't required you know it's just for you for you to understand to be safe and that you know that you're given a product that can count be contaminated. Well are I was going to I'm going to go through that in a little bit. OK so I'll go through this quickly do I have to what ten thirty or what do I have. You know. OK I'm better. I'm better kind of hurry here. So they're requiring that no eating where you can where you grow anything you come out you eat you wash your hands they have a rule sing Happy Birthday two times to yourself that you're washing your hands for the length that you need to wash your hands and yours sanitizers don't count. You have to are from a soap and water and they want you to use non perfumed so in case someone has allergies. There's three water sources a well your city water and surface water such as pond streams and rivers and they require different testing Oh well at those prying as once a year. They're thinking of changing that. But I just checked again a twenty year your city. Why are you just get a copy of their water tests and then your surface water you need a T. test Weekly. I don't know if you would test the water. I mean you have to. Yeah I don't know I mean what would you think if it's just an uncontaminated. I don't know if you would have every. But make sure containers not contaminated right so here's just an example of a well upon for a water test in the you need to walk test the water and this is what they're testing for your quantified generic equalise and total coliform. And this is the requirements for you are. OK So then you have hiding for yourself and your employees and here like I said hand sanitizer not a replacement for. For your washing your hands here need to have clean code in shoes and your bathrooms need to be well stocked with. Paper towels. You can't use cough towels or anything like that that bacteria. We have you have to have a sign in sheet anyone that comes that they understand your hygiene rules about not eating in the field and washing their hands and what to do when they go the bathroom eaters or car or everywhere you have a bathroom station you need to have a hand washing set up. I can do that. Yeah yeah like I said this cat this first part of this Kathy put together for me but I called her to make sure she said this time that I could I could put this up for everybody. Then you have a bathroom cleaning log. I wish you could see if anyone. We when we have our port a potties they come in and clean them out but then we take the responsibility and our safety operating practices of if there's a spill and then we maintain you cannot have a you know they will and a hose out and everything and you've got this pile of water you got cleaned out at the camp and the standing water in there. You can't have a toilet paper roll on laying on the floor of the back or anything. It has to be like we have been that we keep extra Twyla paper outside paper towels outside in a closed bin that's marked clearly that what that is so some respects we do but we don't pump them out and clean log every day that we cleaned it and we market you have to document you can't just tell them. Yeah but I clean it every day. I mean it has to be documented or it's as if it wasn't done to them. So for their bathrooms they want toilet paper one time use paper towels and sun and so liquid possible water which is drinking water. You know it's good to drink for handwashing that were tested. For bacteria and you want appropriate covered trash cans hands free. You know on the touch in the trash cans and weekly maintenance is the minimum. So then your services of any of your harvest equipment containers transport and transport bins knives all that needs to be cleaned everything doesn't need to be cleaned daily like utensils they've got to be designated between dirty have your clean ones and clean when you're. In a dirty container. Washed appropriately. So animals. There are requirements on animals says they don't want any hoof. Anywhere in your growing area. No coals in your growing area. So not only do we have to pick our produce but then we have to put on the ground every day and make sure it's not in our growing area. The reason for that is they feel that that wall is something that could draw the animals and we're growing areas which contaminated. If you do find something and you have your you make your procedures. How you would pick that. Gloved hands past to put in the dumpster. If if there is like a bird perched on a plant the new tape off like a three foot area around so that nobody's going to pick any food off of that plant or touch that until that's taken care. So we have daily check fields which we check the temperature and this is this is included in your food safety rules but it's also OSHA your temperature your heat there's laws for different. Temperatures if you're over eighty degrees you're required to have shade and your water has to be like under seventy degrees drinking water for them if it's over ninety five degrees and you add extra break times and you have to have shade and and water available at all times and so we had a checklist for them for watering cups and water always has to be available if you're going to replace the water. You can't take your job thought up and bring it back. You have to have that one there bring another man and then remove the old one so they can drink a while see they don't quite know all that but anyway. Then you have to allow them to drink so like they're not drinking in where they're picking but we have picking wagons out and we have a job there was water with with paper cups and then they can throw those away and go back to work so accessible. No. And you have to have cups away for them to drink right. So it's so then anything that you use for your farming such as box or a irrigation pipe or anything like that it needs to be off the ground and can have like. On a pallet you know years. A little logs or something that your irrigation pipes are on stage so they're not on the ground and they're the reason for that is that a squirrel or a rabbit might go in your pipes and can tell you that your pipes in the first water that comes out on your vegetables. You know there might be contamination. They're more likely to go under the pipes if they're off the ground than in them or boxes or whatever everything needs to be off the ground to do a checklist. Every week. Daily we did it daily. Go through your growing area and there's questions they have a questionnaire. You know did you find who would you do you know this. Or whatever you find in your place you can answer no. Or did you see any tracks. Did you have any flooding. Did you last you all those questions. So it's very important that there's a corrective log action long so. Like we forgot to document for a week that we clean the bathroom daily because we have to start the port a potties we have bathrooms are packed. And so we just wrote in our corrective walk the day. The location and then we put we've cleaned the bathrooms daily forgot to document and undocumented from now on and then you just go on and take that and sign it and that's good for them. OK here before last we actually hired somebody and that was a drone to maintain the food safety check in the fields check in the employees that they had their gloves on all of their food their safety. The temperature where they were eating where the trash was. All of that we actually hired somebody to do that. No we cut back a little bit of the year before last we did we still running our passion and there's this year we actually went to all field packing and partly was your. There's different sections of food safety. It's the we're good at that you get out of it you know and approved for inspected on. Your pack shed as a whole nother area and a whole other set of procedures and. And the one we did for and we are not ready to go there yet. So down actually are brought to you by a website dedicated to Word and much more if you would like to know about.

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