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Planning, Record Keeping and "Lean" Systems for Efficiency

John Dysinger


John Dysinger

Bountiful Blessings Farm



  • January 25, 2017
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This is called planning record keeping and lean systems for efficiency. Now I just want to give a disclaimer at the beginning here that we are not the best at record keeping and you know the whole business side is we've I think a number of times that's not our forte. You know we try to focus on service and let the Lord provide us what we need you know it's interesting because every year we set goals for C.S.A. you know how many members we want and all that and every year the Lord gives us what we need. It's usually not quite what we what we set our goals that you know it's somewhere in the season it's like boy I am glad we don't have any more C.S.A. members. Because I'll tell you what August is rough. At least where we are you know it's like people are getting a little bit tired of squash and. So on. So to try to keep the boxes full and variety in August is a challenge. So anyway we. You know come August time the boxes in the spring in the fall are just overflowing. Then of course some of it's because you know in the summer. You've got to made of those words are high value but they don't take a lot of space where is in the spring and fall you have more greens which make the box look very full. Anyway. So again the disclaimer is we're not super good record keepers we continue to strive and we're trying to improve so I'm going to be sharing some from our own experience but largely. Like J.M. and others who are much better at the business side of things than we are so you need to start with an income plan you want to be realistic about this for those of you who are just starting out you know is are you realistically trying to make a living off the farm. Now of course making a living is a very relative term. You know some people think they need a hundred thousand dollars a year to make a living. You know we wouldn't know what to do with one hundred thousand dollars a year we have learned in the Lord taught us a lot in those early hard years we have learned to live on much less than we thought we could live on. And so to me that's part of the package here. You know learn to live with less learn how to can and preserve in you know you know about goodwill great place to shop. You know we get good clothes at Goodwill. So this is all part of the package in our mind you know and we well I was going to say we only have one vehicle that change very recently. I'm just going to throw this out there because to me it fits in with the C.S.A. last week one of our C.S.A. members gave us. The C.R.-V. for a dollar. You know talk about relationships. He came to see as a delivery that one. Pam was and said See that car over there you can have it for a dollar. You know it's it's two thousand and two that it's great condition and. You know he was going to give it to the Kidney Foundation and the Lord put us on his heart. That's amazing. So anyway when it comes to supporting yourself. You know what. What do you need to live. Obviously you know if you have mortgage in on and on and it's going to take more but of course. Hopefully part of the package is getting out of debt and and again this is the whole reason why I'm so excited about the market gardening model because it doesn't take lots and lots of money to get into it. You don't need a lot of land you don't need all these things so I mentioned this earlier but it's amazing how it seems to work across the board pretty much that net income is almost always between forty and fifty percent of gross some farms that you know like the lean farm been Hartman he's I think more like sixty percent. So you know once you really get established and you've got your infrastructure built and all of that your your net income can go up but in the early years. You're reinvesting a lot in the farm. You'll be doing well to to take home forty to fifty percent of gross So again how much can you live on. So we're just going to play around with this a little bit and help you to see you know just basic you know how does this work. So let's say you've learned to scrimp and you don't have a lot of debt. So you can live on a couple thousand dollars a month. I see another farmer back there saying yeah I can do this. You know I realize that by American standards that's pretty low but we can live on that course our children are to the age where they're kind of providing their own income and stuff so we're not we don't have a lot of children were supporting but just just to play with the numbers let's start there. So that means you're going to need to bring in at least fifty thousand makes sense. That's your GROSS So how are you going to do that. You know. So if you've got a good market you can sell lettuce for three dollars a head. You know that's a lot of heads of lettuce fifty thousand dollars so you have to start trying to break this down and say OK we're Is this money going to come from. So you start with. Start with records from somebody who's doing it. Another plug for this book you know he's got some great charts in there in fact I think we've got one right here. So obviously you know don't think that you know we threw around a lot of numbers this morning. Don't think you're going to make that kind of money right out of the blocks. Although I say that but it's amazing. There's another young farmer up in Upper Michigan. Brian Bateman I think his name is second year one hundred eighty thousand dollars and he's basically doing it singlehandedly his wife has a full time job to farm. So it's incredible what is being done these young guys young young people coming in who. Really business who are techs be they're just kind of blowing things out of the water but most people that's you know I mean that's really amazing acre and a half again. So again I had mentioned this before. It's always better to start small and make small mistakes. But I don't think you're going to be able to see this chart straight out of the market gardener. It's a chart I've spent hours studying it's got a incredible amount of information on it you know first column is vegetables second column total sales some of you may be able to read it better than I thought. Column is the price per unit price per pound so you look up there his his top seller thirty five thousand dollars off of greenhouse tomatoes. You know it's a lot of money off of one greenhouse tomatoes. And his prices to fifty a pound. You know that's in our markets that's that's pretty low. You know so that's not like he's. He's not making the kind of money he's making because he's getting really high prices. He's in Quebec just above the border of Vermont in a small town. So anyway. And then he has a number of beds per season garden space. OK. The new per bed that's an interesting one number of days in the garden again if you remember that C.V.R. we were talking about that's important. Rank as far as sales and then rank. Income per bed and profitability. So there's a tremendous amount of information on that chart that can you know it's kind of a starting point. OK well if he's in again his prices are not really high. So if he can make this much per bed of this crop. You know if we grew this many beds of this crop and this many beds of this crop you see how you can start figuring it out so. So the charts in genomes book. I think are worth the cost of the book. OK so we're going to run a couple of options here. So let's say you want to do a C.S.A. now we just told you that's really not the best place to start but some people do start there. You know the one thing she didn't talk about is the con of a C.S.A. is the sleepless nights when you're starting out with it and you're you know you're supposed to be delivering boxes the next day and it's like man I don't think we have enough stuff to fill those boxes and that that's kind of a panicky feeling but you know all I can say is you plant more than you think you're going to need and the Lord blesses and usually the boxes look amazing. So you just have to over plant. But anyway the C.S.A. sick can be a little stressful especially when you're starting out. So twenty six with. Weeks is a pretty standard C.S.A. length. We're actually cutting back this year to twenty two weeks for our summer C.S.A. we start the beginning of April and we'll go through to Labor Day. So five months thirty dollars a box again you know how big a box. There are some variables there is for as your market what they want I'll tell you this with C.S.A. The statistics are that more people leave C S A's because of too much product rather than not enough. I think there's a term I forget the terms something about guilt. You know they don't they feel bad throwing stuff away but most people don't know how to cook from scratch. So of course that's part of the C.S.A. is training them teaching them giving them recipes and stuff but they eat out a lot and then you know all the stuff rots in their refrigerator and they feel bad and they quit because they don't like to see it go bad. So there's there's a fine line between giving them enough and giving them too much and I'm getting a little off here but these are all things that I think is important to talk about would C.S.A. what we have done that has worked really well for our summer C.S.A. you know we try to have high standards for the C.S.A. So we have a lot of seconds on tomatoes and so on. We just take all the seconds to market wild to C.S.A. delivery and say these are extras that way we don't feel bad about giving them seconds. You know and they don't feel bad because all wow. Well it's got a little. You know a little bird Packer something but I can just cut that out. And so those who would like more can take it you know okra. I mean at the beginning of the season we never have enough and then those of you who grow okra you know you know when it really comes on. There's tons of okra and so basically for the last half of the summer. They can have all the okra they want and you know most of them love it and they they take a lot of okra So that's one way we kind of and you know if they don't want any extra obviously they're not feeling bad because they still get their regular box. So anyway that's that's a trick that's worked well for us. I saw a hand back here. No question is do we charge them for that. No you know that the original philosophy of C.S.A. eighty's. Was that the customers were sharing the risk of farming and so if you had you know a tornado come through or a hail storm and decimate your crops they knew you know well yeah were sharing the lot of us you know we realize the boxes are going to be really thin for a while because we're we're that's part of the agreement but the other side to it is that you also should share in the bounty. Now most C.S. Ses don't necessarily do that you know the C.S.A. model has kind of evolved and go a lot of different directions but the original idea was we're all in this together. We're your farm or we're growing for you. If we have a great crop you're going to benefit you're going to share the balance see if if we have you know the deer get in or whatever then you share the last so no we don't charge for the extras. Now I mean I say that but you know we will have stuff on line but the course that's going to be first. You know for the most part the extras are seconds which what are we going to do with you know. Well we process a lot for ourselves. OK So that was a little bit of a side note but so remember. Remember we're shooting we're trying to earn fifty thousand dollars to get our net twenty four thousand so if if you've got a twenty six week C.S.A. thirty dollars a box then you need sixty five shares to get your fifty thousand that makes sense that simple math there. So you know sixty five shares for somebody just starting out that's kind of a bit of a chunk to bite off our first year with our winter C.S.E. we had twelve members. And then we doubled to twenty four and then thirty six and it kind of went up from there. But I wouldn't recommend anyone start off with sixty five shares and unless they've had some previous experience. That's a bit of a leap. Farmer's Market option here's Nick. My techno buddy. He's even. Circled our stand there again that's when we had to set up in the parking lot but so again most farmers markets. Usually have twenty six week a six month season. It's going to depend on what part of the country you're from. But ours are the beginning of May and go through the end of October. So if if you divide fifty thousand by twenty six weeks you're going to need to make around two thousand a week. That is pretty good. You know there are a lot of farms that make a lot more than that at the farmer's market I can tell you our average sales and actually I don't know from this year so I'm kind of guessing. But I would say our average sales are around fifteen hundred per week at our farmer's market. In the early spring we haven't quite read the last two years we've tried to reach the three thousand mark. And I think we've got twenty eight hundred years. Something is about the most we've ever made at market. But we have a good market. You know I mean again it's all relative. For some people that's not a lot to earn at a market where we're doing to earn two thousand a week and of course this is just one market. But you know there's nothing to say you can. You can do two markets if that's your main main income source so you do two markets at a thousand dollars a market. That's a little more doable but probably more realistically you're going to want to combine some things and so if you if you did like forty C.S.A. shares and. Eight hundred dollars a week at farmer's market then you've made your fifty thousand. So again you know if you're just starting out that this may start feeling like wow that sounds like work. And it is. But you know you want to be realistic enough to kind of crunch the numbers and say OK if we're going to go for it. How's this going to work OK So once you say OK well we're going to shoot for this many see as a members this much at the market. Those are kind of your target goals then you've got to come up with a plan. You know what crops do you want to grow obviously for a C.S.A. you're going to need the variety because that's what keeps your customers happy is the variety. You know you hear horror stories about C S A's where you know all they got was kale for two months. You know that's not going to make for happy C.S.A. customers. So you have to grow crops. You know celery is kind of a classic for celery I just enjoy the challenge celery is a challenge to grow at least in our part of the country and it takes forever. I mean as far as profitability it's way down there but you know farmers need to stay challenge too so we grow celery you know but I would never grow it if I was just focused on high dollar crops. So what are you going to grow and again the vantage of a market is you can narrow that down and just grow. Maybe ten or twelve of the highest value crops. How much of each crop do you. Want to grow so you kind of have to in again this can get complicated quickly because you've got to be thinking about crop rotations and stuff and we're not even talking about that but hopefully you understand some basics of crop rotation there's different families that ideally you want to move around the garden. Because certain families of crops like the China Poti AC a spin engine. Beats those tend to be detrimental to crops that fall they take a lot out of the soil and then you have other families like the lettuce family one of the great things about lettuce. It's not detrimental in fact it really is. Good for the soil lettuce and then of course your classics would be the lagoons which are actually adding nitrogen to the soil. So anyway. You know you kind of have to you can't just because. Tomatoes are highly profitable You can't just plant all tomatoes because you need to be able to move things around. But this is what your garden plan is all about you're you're laying that out on paper and saying OK we're going to grow this many beds of tomatoes and this many beds of lettuce and so on and then you have to. To do some some working back. OK So we want you now you know are are kind of. I don't know it's not the right term but the holy grail is to try to grow lettuce all summer long. In our climate. It's. I mean we've had sort of success but to grow lettuce in July and August is a challenge. But you know if you're trying to have led us in July. You know you've got to count back and figure out OK. When does that need to be seeded And so this is all part of your garden plan and a crop. I think I have a picture here. Yeah. Again this is from James book but just a simple some simple examples ages for harvest so you're wanting to harvest Spanish. Now we would never be harvesting spinach in June. This because the spinach goes to pot long before that but this is J.M. in Canada. So he's wanting to harvest it in June. So he needs to seed it. Now he's transplanting So he also transplant spin and seeded on April twenty two and then transplanted out on May nine and he's doing two beds of Tyee radishes again. So yeah you start with when you need it and work back from there. When do I need to transplant it when do I need to seed it. So you know in your head your head starts spinning after a while because there's just a lot of you know the. The stereotypical dumb farmer you know the father keeps the son at home who can't make it you know in college and sends the bright ones off to college. But this kind of farming we're talking about you got to use your head you know when there's a lot to it and Mrs White talks about we need a different. How does she say it different. Kind of farm or different breed of farm or something along those lines. You know we can't just be dumb farmers we have to be smart farmers. And we have to really know what we're doing here. So you see how that works. Again it's not rocket science but it's a lot of mental arithmetic mental gymnastics then the next step is laying out your garden and again. In the back of J.M.S. book he's got pages of you know sample garden layouts he has sixteen beds per plot and he has ten plots that he wrote scraps through. So each each plot has you know. So those of the sixteen beds there. So he's going to have three beds of broccoli transplanted Marge fifteen and then bok choy this is a bras a case a plot and some cute curve baby. Kirby. So I don't want to go too fast but I also don't want to belabor understand what's going on here. He's he's laying out his garden. OK This year we're going to grow this here this these beds here and and just laying it out on paper the goal here is that when you get into the season. You don't have time to think you. No you're just flat out trying to stay with your head above water. So you plan it out in the winter time around the wood stove and then when spring comes and things really heat up both literally and figuratively. You're just following the plan that's the ideal. So you don't have to be thinking about it and you know the problem is if you don't have a plan like this what happens in the spring rush comes on and you're not thinking about you know I need to keep seeding here. And so by mid summer all of us. It's like oh I don't have enough stuff and you know it doesn't grow overnight. I mean the fastest thing on the farm is radishes and those are at least three weeks so you've got to be planning. Way ahead. That makes sense. You know most tomatoes in the southeast aren't going to go all summer long. So you do a mid season planting. So when your first crops are on their way out the new crop is on the way in just a little tip on that we've gone to we just take suckers and plant suckers in a pot and put it in the shade for a week or two and you've got ready made new tomato plants really simple that way you don't have to go through all the seeding and and of course it's cheaper because some of the seed the greenhouse tomatoes can be a dollar a seed which sounds really expensive. Until you think about what you can earn on it and then it doesn't sound so bad after all. But anyway it's just a little tip that we've been doing for the last few years for our later plantings of tomatoes just taking those suckers. So where are they going in the garden. How long are they going to stay there. You know some crops are in and now quick and others are in for a while. So you've got to be mapping this you don't want empty beds as we're talking about with Conor Crick more he's got it down to such a science that his beds aren't empty overnight. You know as soon as one empties out. He's got something to put back in it. And that's the idea. You know that's that's what you're shooting for but that takes a tremendous amount of of planning question is do people prefer the heirloom over the hybrid that's kind of a hard question to answer because there's actually quite a few in either camp some There's a lot of people who just want ten adults read tomato you know ten else is about so big you know they don't want to big because it's like what do I do with this and plus when it. You know one tomato costs four dollars. It's it's like wow that's a lot of money. So I would say the majority are just looking for a good read hybrid slicer. But having said that in July. There's you know about three tons of red hybrids slicers at the market. You know so heirlooms can kind of sit. It's a need that you can try to capitalize on but heirloom tomatoes are not as predictable and you know. So we do both. You know we do heirlooms and hybrids. You know and we're not even going down that road. Hopefully all of you understand hybrids hybrids and G M O's are two different things. Hybrids. We're all hybrids right. Cross between our mom and dad. So there's nothing evil about hybrids. But there is the downside that you can't save and when you can't buy or sell what are you going to do so. Byron Smith who was at the conference last year. Said that most of the hybrid greenhouse tomatoes have been stabilized and that you can save seeds from them. He does that regularly which is I guess probably I don't know how legal that is but it certainly saves a lot of money. So just because it's a hybrid doesn't mean you can't save the seed from it. Some hybrids are much more stable than others. Anyway we're getting off topic here. How does it fit into your crop rotation now ways to collect your data. You know there's a lot of record keeping that needs to go on and certainly I would say the majority of farmers I read about are just using spreadsheets to collect their data you know this was the yield this was you know how much we planted. And you know all this kind of information. Then you have a fair number that are just using paper field notebooks clipboards whatever but most of those who are doing it that way at some point are putting it on the computer because it's easier to kind of crunch numbers and figure things out on the computer. This was this is another option. AG squared. I think that they still have an offer on there where you can sign up for free and experiment with it. I think there's a certain number of crops you can put in. So I would encourage you to to fool around with it but it's it's a it's a program that is designed it's Internet based so you know it's keeping your records online of course you can print out hard copies of things but it is something that multiple users can use and actually just last year they came out with a app Ags squared app so for harvest and tasks you know you can assign your workers tasks you can keep track of all your harvests on your app in it updates your you know your computer. So you know at the end of the year you're going to have all your harvest your yield data and all of that it's quite powerful and I faithfully. Work in. In the spring of every year and some How about midsummer it's like. You know I'm just trying to survive here. So I so I have used it quite a bit and you know it's it's again it can be incredibly powerful tool because every day I can go in in look OK this is what I need to be planting today. This is the seeding I need to do and so play around with it. Again I think you can you can experiment with it for free. But it has a lot of potential. And you know this is coming from somebody who's not techie at all but to me it just makes it much more efficient than putting it on paper or you know you don't have your computer out in the field. Using your spreadsheet so how are you going to collect the information to then put on your spreadsheets. But then again the other powerful thing that Nikken Pearson talked about is this AG squared. You know there is so much. I'm not. Yeah sorry not X. squared square square is the cash register app but it's got so much more you know we can go in there and tell you exactly how many dollars we made on cherry tomatoes last year and it can graph it by by week. You know by market. I mean it can do amazing things. So it can show us all our total sales on all the individual vegetables. And so it's incredible information that is collected there that really helps you making. Decisions. You know OK so we can go back to last year's records. It's all online and we know exactly how many bunches of carrots We sold on May twenty five. So we know last year we sold this many bunches and what it doesn't necessarily tell you. Well no it does tell you this. It'll tell you the time of day so we can see. OK We ran out of carrots at four thirty. So we need you know we can kind of estimate we need this many more bunches of carrots at this time of year to meet demand so it's incredibly powerful. For record keeping. Again that's totally free amazing you know it's amazing how you think you're going to remember stuff. And there's no way I'll forget this you know. But come next season. It was like OK now what did we do. So it's really important to keep track of planting dates and you know the better you are at this. The faster you'll find two in your systems. And you know you don't want to be over planting. And so you know. OK Last year we came home with lettuce this market. You know we took this many heads and we came home with it. Well that's you know that's wasted time in harvesting and washing and everything. So you can really start fine tuning it to the time of year and to the crops in the quantities and try to really dial in his. Ideally you want to come home from market with nothing. You know with an empty delivery vehicle that's usually pretty unrealistic as as Pam said in the spring in the early spring because we have so much more than others who don't have as many who pals and stuff. It's pretty common for us to come home with an empty. Which is really nice. So again the more you can dial in on this. Again I mentioned this morning that. J.M. does all his major minutes on one hundred foot beds yield per hundred foot bed plants per hundred foot bed. It's a really nice way to standardize your major mit. You know I know I need. Three hundred plants to go in one hundred foot bed. So you want to have to try to standardize your record keeping as much as possible. And for most market gardeners it's better to do something like that than even per thousand square feet because you may not be growing even a thousand square feet of of whatever at one time you know one hundred foot bed is two hundred fifty square feet. So you'd have to have four beds of something in order to make thousands with no concerning variables to performance and cetera you know. Again the more detailed you can be with your record keeping the quicker you can. Fine tune things and dial it in now a little bit about metrics for tracking profitability there are whole books on this. So you know I'm not going to try to say much but you need to have some kind of quick ways that you can kind of say OK this crop is really earning me money. And one and this is one that BEN HARTMAN has is figures out they have a standard harvesting container and they figured out you know how many pounds of peppers. Are on average fit in their harvesting container and they know that they can make this much per harvest container of peppers and so they they do all their crops based on you know how many bunches of radishes are going to fit in the harvest container and so that helps them to make decisions on what crops to grow and one thing he's also looking at is weight. You know peppers are light. Potatoes are heavy you know which is going to be easier on the farmer you know having been of peppers at this much. And again. His book has a lot of this information in it and we don't have time to go into that but that's one that's one way to do it another way. Is looking at yield per square foot. You know a classic example of this is lettuce you know a nice head of lettuce takes about a square foot. If you know if big big nice heads we can sell for three dollars a head. So just one crop of lettuce is earning us three dollars a square foot and lettuce is only in the garden because you know half its life is a transplant. You know in the greenhouse and then the other half of its life is in the garden so it may only be in the garden for just over a month and three dollars a square foot in a month. You know that's that's good. Money. So that's another way to just start figuring your profitability is and I say here twenty thousand dollars an acre minimum. You know we're talking this morning about one hundred thousand dollars and they are more. So this is really minimum you know we talked about the example of corn. I know from looking at the average eels that corn yields on average twelve hundred dozen years per acre twelve hundred thousand. So how much can you get per does in the years of corn. What five dollars or so. So that's six thousand dollars an acre. That doesn't meet our minimum here so let's say we you know I told you we can get a dollar a year for early core in that's another thing we've gone to transplanting all our corn. It's great we use a three inch soil block for seeds per block and do it. Thirty inches apart in the row two rows. Two rows per bed staggered. And we get this solid crowd. You know the crows are picking out. It's great you know direct seeding especially in the early spring corn can be very spotty. But so by transplanting it. We can have us solid Pav it's really how do you keep the worms out. We don't. But but planning it earlier you know you're later crops are where you really start having worm problems. So we focus. You know we plant our corn the first of April in soil blocks and then put it out ten days two weeks later. So a dollar an ear. So that's twelve thousand dollars an acre right. It's still not a lot of money and then we talked a little bit about this another way is you know because a lot of your time especially once you get into the season much of your time is in that harvest washing packing. You know and well there's so much more we could say but I've always heard you know you've heard the number thirty dollars an hour if you're not making at least thirty dollars an hour in the harvesting then it's not a crop worth fooling with again with the C.S.A. that changes things a little. It. You know another classic example of a low yielding crop is broccoli. Farmers joke about broccoli because it takes up so much space and you get one head. Plus maybe a few side shoots and broccoli doesn't bring a lot of money. You know broccoli is so cheap in the store. So you run the numbers on it and you won't grow a lot of broccoli probably because it's just a money maker. So yeah you know that brings up the point that your markets different parts of the country. You know are going to like different things and they're going to support higher prices. So you know there's not one formula that's going to work for everybody. So you need to kind of test your markets. Ideally go to Farmer's Market see what people are selling see the prices they're getting. If you can make money on broccoli great you know we grow broccoli because we know the C.S.A. Once it. We do not do much at all with cauliflower. Because cauliflower is even worse than broccoli. It's harder to get nice heads. We've done well in the fall. Actually with cauliflower but spring forget it. And cauliflower doesn't have any side shoots. So it's really. Don't grow cauliflower So Conor Crick Moore has has really upped it by saying he doesn't grow anything that he can't make a hundred dollars an hour harvesting So as I told you this morning he has an even grow. He doesn't even pick his raspberries anymore because they won't make him one hundred dollars an hour. OK We're about out of time this book I highly recommend Well all these books I recommend and I did print out the resource sheets I'll give you. Next meeting. But this book. How many of you are familiar with lean manufacturing there's actually a lot online about lean manufacturing My son Jonathan was doing a lot of research on that I'm trying to remember the company had a lot on line Washington State. It was anyway. It was popularized by Toyota. As a way to to be become much more efficient in the process is of producing something. And so what BEN HARTMAN is done is taken those lean principles and applied them to the farm and it's really fascinating in this book has taken the small farm world by storm. He's actually writing a sequel to it that gives more specific examples from his farm because that was kind of a complaint I had here you know he he lays out these principles. But you know I'm the kind that I just ONE know OK tell me this is the spacing you planted that. And this is how much you grow and you know. So his next book is going to be more like that but this is about this is not going to tell you how to grow stuff but this is going to tell you how to do it efficiently. And so we don't have time to look at all of these but this is just one of the things that lean as they do these five S's. Sort get rid of stuff on your farm. You know all the the tools you bought that you thought were going to change your farm and they didn't. Don't just leave them back. Get rid of them set in order. You know know think where things are Shine standardise that's a big one. We've been working on and sustain. Which is another way to say little attentions often repeated. I'll just say this about our farm as of probably three years ago. We stopped doing farm work on Friday Friday is dedicated to Sabbath preparation. And our farm has never looked better. So now for us in the summertime. I can tell you it takes pretty much all day on Friday to mow when we you know that's part of our sabots preparation. It's a lot of work but you know we're doing things like. Washing bins getting him put away. You know all these things that if you don't set aside time for they just pile up and so it's made a huge difference in our farm so we're basically working on the working on the farm five days a week Sunday to Thursday Friday is Sabbath preparations so that of course is in the home but then on the farm as well getting everything cleaned up and ready and you know the Lord has blessed and again our farm is a much better place because of it. So these were a few other things he talked to. Well there's a lot more in the book but I don't know if I can't remember what book he quotes that talks about the ten thousand hour mastery or any of you familiar with that book. It's you know it's like a business principle book but the idea that it takes about ten thousand hours to master something you know one thing I like to point out on a farm. You know we've been doing is eighteen years and people think well that's a long time. But that means we've had eighteen Springs. You know how many how many times does it take to master a piece on the piano. I think probably a lot more than eighteen times right. So we've had eighteen springs in eighteen summers and eighteen falls. It takes a lot of time to gain mastery on a farm in fact I don't know if anybody's ever gain mastery. Eliot Coleman I like to quote him he he when he was young he was into adventure sports. And he said when he found gardening organic gardening he found the ultimate adventures. Because it is the mountain. You never summits and you can imagine how tantalizing that is to somebody who's into conquering every year on the farm you say this is the year we're going to summit and every year you have a whole new set of challenges in quite reached the top and that keeps you going. You know it's like man next year we're going to do this differently. We're going to do this and it's the ultimate adventures for you never quite master. So we don't have time to talk more about that. I think that was the end. But again you know you can get the book or talk to me afterwards. As so I hope that was helpful. Again we're scratching the surface here but hopefully it helps you to wrap your mind a little bit around the process of planning record this media was brought to you by audio first a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio. If you would like to listen to more sermon leave to visit W W W dot org.


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