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4. Market Gardening: Appropriate Infrastructure

Michelle Lesher Larry Lesher



  • January 17, 2018
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Heavenly Father we thank you for the day again we thank you for the lunch that we just had a pre that as we are digesting we were able to get the nourishment we need and that we would stay awake that it wouldn't put us to sleep although we know that after lunch I have a tendency to get a little. Sleepy so I pray that you just keep us awake and alert that we hear the things you want to hear pray that you would help us to present clearly that you would fill in for our deficiencies or we thank you for the opportunity to share these things. I know that. You may you need your people to hear these things you need us to be about your business and so Father we just pray that this would be a tool to help for those whether here or in already a verse or wherever they hear this that you would be glorified and they could be directed according to your will and purposes we thank you for this you thinking in Jesus' name for his sake we pray Amen. I just wanted to start with mentioning again that as a farmer you do so many things you become a construction worker mechanic all these different things I was so impressed by Larry because. You know before the farm the only thing he really ever built was skateboard ramps. And. He wasn't he didn't get really good grades in school he had a learning disability so they basically told him he didn't know how to learn. And so he decided we were going to build a watch station and he researched it researched it and he built the building by himself essentially which is really awesome I could never do that you tell me what to do and I can do it fine but to actually research something and find out exactly how to do the concreate and put the building up as it's a big endeavor it took us about two seasons on and off on and off two seasons to get it completed so far we know such. An amazing thing it really stretches you in ways that you might not have ever been stretched before because when things need to be done you just have to learn how to do it and he pushes me a lot on the farm because I just want to be told what to do and just follow directions and he says no you know you need to figure out how to do it so I just encourage you along the way to embrace the concept of getting out of your comfort zone and trying new things so this is a picture of our wash house in construction and the very end you can see it complete it. Yeah so we were a little rushed at the end and this is on layouts and systems and and I think. Layouts and systems are quite important. Fundamentally if you come to a piece of property and you start farming right away. And you don't have some sort of idea of what you're going to put there it's so you once you build a building and all this and you realise you need it you're geisha in line to go across a building that's not really practical and so developing a layout in a system before you get into the process is extremely important. So what I do and what I did what I do is what I did. This is my FILDES this is how I laid out my fields and I just went into well numbers. And I used the blocks as a five foot increment and so this is all based on five foot increment we have hundred foot beds there five feet wide because my my tractor has a five foot well base and that's how we always drive on those same tire tracks so everything is a kind of a permanent race but it's not a raised bed a permanent bed system though even though we're using a tractor. So what I did is. This is my washed ation here what you can see on this is this these three plots here. Equal to one of these. And then this is equal to that one and so I have three sections as in my mind I view this as one Section two sections three sections as everybody understand that. Over here I have one two and then three over here on my field so I put my washed ation here so that in any given time I'm relatively in the middle as best as I could place my last ation so you don't want to be walkin way way far away once you harvest something you don't want to walk ten fifteen minutes to get to your washed ation with it or you don't to be driving all of it if you can avoid it and so when you think about these things you want to consider how long it's going to take you get from if you forget your knife in the wash day Sion and you've walked all the way out you know across your field you're just burning up time and time is crucial on the farm and so layout is very important the other thing that I use this for is my rotation plan you can see I have salad mix peas. I don't know if you can read these this is carrots celery turnip radish parsnips or go in here all these little dots on the computer you know when I blow those up that will tell me watermelon must melon head lettuce. Carrots celery so I know which bed is which and so when I move this around every year I have a rotation plan so my rotation plan is very systematic it's very easy to follow. The other thing that doing the layout and having the systems in place is now I can know when I do my irrigation system I'm coming out of my pump house I'm coming out I'm runnin irrigation in ground irrigation through all these places I can get your gate into my greenhouses How am I getting the irrigation to my greenhouses. One of the other things you want to consider is when you walk out in your field if you're seeing puddles don't seem to dissipate very quickly after a big rainstorm whereas the water flow house the water flows through your your garden and these are things you really want to consider before you even move into really trying to grow things because if you have a really bad wet spot you may consider tile during and getting that stuff to drain out faster because it's going to make a big difference and how fast you can get into the filled that makes sense. And so these things sound extreme to a lot of people who haven't considered it if you'd asked me when I started farming even not many years ago we spent two thousand dollars this year putting one drain one tile drain in that went up into the middle of the spilled cut across and went all the way along this hole filled down here and out our property. We would lose on this field right here we were losing about a quarter of our crops at the end of the field they were sitting in water so much it during so slow with sandy soil it shouldn't but we sit on top of sandstone sandstone isn't porous so the water has to move laterally and it takes a long time to move through the soil and so we were facing really bad water issues I spent two thousand dollars but if I get crop out of a quarter of this whole three hundred what is it three hundred fifty foot. Of bed that's a lot of money that makes two thousand dollars looks like a drop in the bucket and so just things like that that you want to consider when you start to do the layouts of your field you want to be very practical about that. So this gentleman here prompted something I want to share that we don't have on here one of the very very first things we did was we put up a deer fence on the property and that was around the whole sixteen and a half acres which he basically. Pound each post told himself and he lost about ten pounds and had tennis elbow by the time it was done but. We haven't had any deer issues at all and we decided that was a big decision in the beginning because it was a big expense but the farm we were at before at the Black Hills we would have total crops devastated by deer and we figured if we were going to try to do this and make a living at it that we would need to protect the crop so fences are are a big deal can you want to question Tony and then we'll go down write him down but fencing it's kind of a whole other topic but we're happy to answer questions about that too and then we had mentioned before Alan is going to have a very extensive talk on irrigation so that is something you definitely want to think about in your layout. So early starts we have talked about starts earlier we're going to. We're not in our living room anymore technically. So in that washed nation at an extension room and you can see the the insulation on the wall so that is two layers of insulation we have in our twenty on this room and I'll tell you why we did that so this room has because it's going to be a multi-use room I think. Not only in my control in the climate. For having early starts but I'm also putting is a ready here familiar with a cold. A cool but if you're not familiar with the cool bot you need to get familiar with cool bought It's Stuart cold dot com I believe. It's a it's a little computer that doesn't algorithm that you can take a regular window air conditioner unit and you do a small amount of labor you take the front of it off you pull their sensor out and you attach it to the sensor on the cool bot and you take the other sensor on the call but you put it in the fins what it does is it has an algorithm that overrides its refrigeration unit it'll actually heat that bulb up and make it think it's warmer in the room than it really is and it will allow that air conditioner to get you down to I mean I think it will go as low as one thirty two hour thirty eight well thirty four for sure I've gotten thirty four. Well anyway and so you have very inexpensive way to create a refrigeration unit for yourself and it's a really good tool but you want really good insulation or you're just wasting money so what we're doing with this room and you can see that gravel floor that is not the best insulation what we're doing with this room we have a walk in cooler that we call the cool bot at about thirty six degrees but this room is going to be for like tomatoes and things of that nature that you don't really want to refrigerate you know tomatoes when you refrigerator lose flavor they get mealy not a good idea but they don't last that long if you can keep them around fifty five degrees they'll hold much longer and so you can your harvest window changes you can hold and you can harvest throughout a couple of days as opposed to day for day before. So it doubles. Yes it's going to double as our early starts will have heat in there but as soon as we're pulling once the starts can survive the weather and the greenhouse the starts greenhouse which we will talk about in a moment once they move out there then we can turn this thing around take the heat or cut the heater off turn the air conditioner and it becomes now a second refrigeration unit it's also our pump house so our well pump is also in this room so it's protected in the winter months from this room also and so the other thing that I wanted to talk about was. Going to say oh if you didn't want to use it as a cooler one of the things that is really popular right now is micro greens when it gets really hot out they can become you know mold you can have issues with this and also become a controlled environment for them because all the same things you started your start trees on can now become lights for your micro greens So there's there's multiple uses for these rooms and you should always take advantage of everything you build as much as possible all right so from there I'm going to talk about our seedling house so when we start it. Our seedling house was a I had made a. I had made a while Matt actually Matt Dealey gifted me a little quanta. Tunnel that was about this tall. It's always standing there like this water and it's hundred degrees and it would be so high in the bugs were eating you alive and so you know moving to the phase where you have a starts house and you can get automated water and things of that nature you don't need that I mean when we started in Seattle we started our trays we set them on the ground and we took a piece of plastic and put a piece of plastic over it on some cement blocks and put a tube of four on the cement block and over the other one and that's how we enclose them and every day we would come to the farm and open the thing up and let all our ceiling see the sun and we would water them and cover them back up so you don't have to go from nothing Joe wash station that starts from Room starts house that's you know automated an elaborate Don't be thinking this is this is the Near the end of the road this is the beginning of the road let's give a quick testimony so we started out with that gifted Kalak pedal Cata pillar tunnel and. We actually got two of our greenhouses from a Mennonite or Amish auction Mennonite auction we had a very limited amount of funds we were saving in saving we didn't have enough to buy the green house we wanted and Lord providentially worked and we got to have two greenhouses for the amount of money we had that wasn't enough for one. From this auction so that's where our seedling house this really beautiful nice seedling house came from an auction and Larry built the tables they have screens so that when you water the water drips through the bottom and for many many years we have hand watered and it I want to see the one there takes hours depending on how many plants you have in there. It's a big job so we're happy to tell you that we went to automation watering in this house. And it will show you a little video here. Right after this one I just wanted to mention the tables are important too they do protect from pass you know if you get my son in there anything like that having the starts raised protects from animals critters getting them somewhat So here's a video. So now. Now you literally go in there and you flip a switch he bought a timer so you set the timer for fifteen minutes twenty twenty minutes so you can just go in there turn it and then go do something else and I mean we save hours it was hours approximately we were saving four hours a day and watering in the early part of the year and so it didn't mean that we didn't have to haul him water there are definitely you know it's not a perfect system but it certainly gets you walang ways down the road where you come back and fill in some holes. In the back there's our peppers so it's a it's doing door service it's a starts house and we put crops in there as well so. Those green houses the one the big one there you can see I don't know if you can tell but I'm not actually in a lot on a ladder up in the middle of the green house the big one that's open. I don't know what she's taking a picture of but the one on the left is the starts house and we've got that green house and six foot side walls to it because we want to do some particular stuff in there that we wanted a lot of air we're doing tomatoes and we want to keep the heat as high as possible because tomatoes once they reach a certain temperature will start to drop blossoms and so the bigger the greenhouse the more you can kind of control that and it holds more heat in winter time. So that was the start house on the left that's our tomato house in the middle there and on the right is where we do our cucumber and so just a testimony so you heard about the greenhouse is how we got those. When I was building the defense that we were just talking about we work the Black Hills Health and Education Center and our bosses had come to visit and they wanted to help and they had an R.V. and they parked out in front of our farm and I was he was helping me put these post in he would hold the post and I would climb up the ladder and I'd bring the post and so we got it was supposed to be and I had a little level on there so they were straight and he tells me we're not leaving until this defense is done so he stayed with us for a few weeks and in the process they realized that we probably needed a greenhouse and the Lord impressed them. To loan us the money that we still haven't paid. Partially partially paid back and we keep we keep awesome with they said well when we need it you'll get to it don't worry about it don't worry about it and so the Lord the Lord has just constantly provide it when we need it something she said oh you get something in the mail we need to go well we moved here we didn't have a well that was a big concern that city water and I'm like. OK I don't know if there's water down there we're buying this place we had to dig three hundred fifty feet we hit twenty seven gallons a minute of water so I was a take sixty five like Alan got but we only got twenty seven. But that was twelve thousand dollars purchase and we didn't have any money. The Lord provides you step out in faith and the Lord will make a way I didn't ask anybody for any help any money for the Lord I'd go to the Lord and he would say. You're ready for this now here go do this the coolest thing about it too is our family were first generation Adventist and it was his brother's wife that's a schoolteacher they got a big bonus one year she gave us most of her bonus for the well she was just convicted to help us out starting the farm so we've had a lot of people donate in help throughout the year so God is good. OK. So. Some things to consider with when you start. Thinking about it the palace ventilation is really important and when you're buying a greenhouse there's a lot of options for how you're going to ventilate the greenhouse. You roll up sides obviously you have doors on the front there's different sized doors there are spans. If you look at this one in particular you can see it's kind of funny shaped at the top. That's a ridge vent we call that a ridge Mint where I can actually roll that up on the top that flat spot rolls up all the heat you know heat rises so all that heat that's in the top that greenhouse all rolled up and it just basically dumps right out of the top very rapidly and so that's all a very good tool. You can get temperature sensors that will operate if you see the big louvered system there the big square thing there's a fan on one in and. An opening vent on the other in that will open cut on an open based on the temperature in the greenhouse so that it will just automatically dump heat out of the top. You can do misting systems think a day started shown in those guys there's they had fans on one end and the other in was like a. Curtain that got wet and it would pull air through that that wet fabric it would cool the whole green. House that way. So there's a lot of different ways that you can ventilate but it's something that you really should take into consideration because it can be quite expensive in addition to the purchase of a greenhouse but. It can be the difference between how much money you make in the middle of the summer or shutting down your greenhouse almost in the middle middle of the summer it's a it's a really critical component. I had I have used ridge vent greenhouses quite a bit I think there I like them a lot a lot of times though it's manual and manual stuff while it's great it's but you've got to manage it and so when we go back to the first slide systems you want to think about your systems because you're you know. You just you're at farmer's market it's hard to open up the ribbon on your greenhouse but if it's automate it and automation that they had these days you could open it from your phone you know there's some really technical stuff you can get into and it may sound expensive up front but a lot of these things will pay for themselves in real rapid succession I mean it comes quick because if you're if you're really operating a farm. Plants will make a lot of money for you and so the better your starts are the better chance you have in the field and so you know if you're going to tomatoes tomatoes are a huge cash crop if you can keep them from getting a fungal disease because you've got the humidity out that could be thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars difference. Other other ways that you can cool the greenhouses they have reflective shake laws or shake loss at different weights of shake cloth but you can just literally cover it with and that literally create shade so if you think about when you go out and you put your arm out in the sun and you feel the heat on your body and then when you go stand in the under a tree same temperature but you're not as hot Well your plants have the same problem as you do and so if you put a little shake cloth over. You can literally cool them down that way as well. I did talk about the temperature sensors with the fans but on the roll up on the ridge vents you can get those with automation that have temperature sensors you can get humidity sensors all these different things to help you alleviate some of the task in the pressures on you to remember to do these tasks because it can become daunting you have so many of these little task that they're easy to do but there's just a lot of them to do in managing automation can become a lot more practical. Than just thinking you're going to remember all the history books. All right. So the next thing you want to consider when you start thinking about your green house. Is your irrigation system now there's different aspects to irrigation you want to consider when you think about a greenhouse so if you're doing starts there are some starts a don't want to get wet from the top so you won't want to over water them over the top so you may want to have irrigation systems in there where you can bottom irrigate you do one over the head irrigation for some things or if you're doing tomatoes you wouldn't want overhead irrigation but you would want drip tape irrigation and so thinking about what you're going to do in those things one of the things I didn't talk about that should be mentioned is in your systems when you look at my bed system if you think about it they were ALL hundred foot beds. By five foot That means if I have drip tape cut for this bed it fits in all my bed systems I have two exceptions one greenhouse is one hundred twenty foot and one greenhouse is fifty so we have special stuff that is specifically for those greenhouses we don't use it anywhere else on the farm but in the outdoors everything is is the same stuff it's same stuff same stuff when we decide on our bed systems when I say carrots I'm going to plant carrots on a plant beets I'm going to plant turnips I decide what bed system is going to work best because my irrigation system has to fit into all those patterns so we're going to do four rows or six rows or maybe you have a couple because like salad mix you going to have a whole bed of salad mix so you want to consider systems about fitting these irrigation systems in fitting cultivation systems in cultivating bean weeding systems they're going to be most practical for what you're doing. And so. Automation or greenhouse irrigation I want to finish the irrigation on the greenhouse system on the greenhouse systems so you saw the little sprinklers that I had in the video I showed you for the starts they also make the same thing and you can run one or two rows down depending on the pattern of the particular system you buy but you can do overhead so if you're doing things like head lettuce in there it might be practical to do overhead your addition. In the middle of the day you can cool things down. If you have overhead irrigation you don't have stuff in your rows cultivation becomes easier not to worry about drip to being in the way and so these are just things you can do in your greenhouse things to consider as you're thinking about the systems that you're going to do automation again very very I mean I it is a I'm not a technical person but automation will. It can really assist you in being practical at succeeding at it. It's a really good tool that needs to be considered. So the other thing you want to consider is you don't necessarily have to have a permanent greenhouse like these are permanent greenhouses there are there in the ground there anchored in the ground there every post is two feet or more in the ground and they're not moving so when we are. At a friend who bought one and three quarter acre greenhouse and in that green house I helped him do move around and help them with some stuff it had pipes and he had pipes in the greenhouse and he gave me a bundle of these pipes and so we're going to build greenhouses so we bought a Johnny's hoop bender and we're actually going to binde our own hoops and they're not designed to be a permanent structure it's a structure that I can move around so in the springtime if I want to put my spring brassicas in and Alan was talking about that being able to cover things up but you don't necessarily want you know you can't afford to have fifteen greenhouses with these are very expensive you go to Lowe's and you buy some top rail for chain link fencing you buy two of those and you've been don't you think Jonathan Dyson your Has this caterpillar tunnel is a really excellent price for those already done made you can get stuff like that kits so when you you can build on yourself room together. They get put in the ground for they don't get put in the ground you can do stakes in the ground and they just slide over the stakes and then you strap and you do like grounding curves to hold them down and so you can effectively move what it what did we show when when he was when Alan was talking about the seasonal differences now you're going from six weeks having to plan something out to two weeks planting something out and you can you can get a lot more succession planting then for the year and that's a lot of money. But I just want to mention too that you can do these hoops that you can put the ROE cover over inside of a greenhouse to also add another layer of insulation to the crops that are inside. I just wanted to mention that to you and then this is a picture of our tomato house. And. It's really exciting to have this greenhouse on our farm now. Is a lot of work putting it up but you definitely see improvement just in how the tomatoes grow and he made it quite a bit taller just so really give it a lot of airflow which has really helped with disease pressure and. We're very thankful for the greenhouse. You know. So this is our when we were building our washing you see all the wood and stuff is still kind of bits and pieces laying around from where we're building but this is our walking cooler you can hardly see it it's so dark but it's an eight by twelve foot walking cooler. We have racks inside and you look over here you can see the racks that we put inside so anything. That you can do to keep your so when you come in we were talking about bringing food in from the filled. When you think about a walk in cooler. And this might sound a little bit far out for some some people who haven't necessarily been involved in market farming or market gardening. If you can think about making a door or getting a door for your walking cooler is big enough for you to move a pallet in and out of. When you get cover crop seat on hand loading this have a door that's a you know just like a door you'd walk into your house I mean it's insulated orbits that size. I mean every time I get a pallet of cover crop seed or fertilizer that I want to have in refrigeration I have to hand move every single bag you know fifty pound bags forty bags for time you know forty five whatever it is. That's a lot that's a lot of movement if it's there's no reason to do that if you just. If you can invest the money it's worth it to consider a door that you can get a Paladin with a pallet jack or something like that. Yeah and if not obviously you do the best you can for what you guys just want to share for the first two seasons we used our personal refrigerator we had two of them one that was like what I would buy bulk and that became the farm refrigerator and then we would literally harvest as soon to going to market as possible because we didn't have a cooler but having a cooler is really a game changer because you can you know it just takes a lot of pressure off of you when she harvested the food if you can cool it properly and then it will make it have a longer shelf life and be a better quality at the market so just to give you an example. There's a misnomer about getting the freshest food you can. People will harvest sell it next morning of and bring it to market and think they're giving people the freshest salads mix they can get the best it's going to last a long as it was just was cut moments ago hours ago. And they're selling X. does not last and the reason it doesn't last is because if you would harvest it the day before twenty four hour difference and I bring it in and I hydrated I spin it dry I put it in a box I put in a cooler it will outlast their cell and next every time if they do the hydro cool it they put it in and they take it straight without putting it in the cooler. In the summer time condition it will hold like the stuff that's had time to to chill in a refrigeration unit all your greens will fall affectively function this way. And so it's amazing what hydration will do when you take something in your hydrated. And it brings out moisture and you basically crisp it you lock that plant down when you put it in the refrigeration it will hold that moisture way longer and that's what wilting is and you get like we will have let it kill that we take the market and we put it on the table and it's beautiful wonderful kill in about three or four hours it looks like a pile of green mush and we will throw it in our box you know when we come back to the farm and I'll throw it in and you think this is just complet I mean normal person looking at it would be like that's useless we bring it back we thought in the water and about we leave it in there for two hours three hours come back it looks like we just harvested it it's all hydration what you're fighting is hydration and dehydration. And so lastly we're going to go it Allan and I were going to come up now we just want to show you. This is the last day extension that we put on there. The blue thing there is the pump to our well and then that became our starts house to get him out of our living room and then that's the washed ation there so we will have time for questions so write them down as they transition into the presentation now. OK so we're going to be talking about two things will probably be touching a little bit possibly of the same information that Larry Michel did but maybe hopefully mentioned some new things here as well we're going to be covering. The watch house a little bit more in-depth here with some pictures. And we're going to be covering kind of the overall specs for an irrigation system. And I'll get into that when we go so. Take on more of washouts So first question when it comes to the washhouse Can you guess what it is. Should it be and I might only suggest that Planet Earth is a good location for a washhouse I actually have Amazon Prime and. I do have Amazon Prime and they have like three different like movies T.V. shows whatever while there is one on NASA which is the and it's like a six hour documentary on the history of NASA from humans first interest in flight to. The end of the space shuttle. ERA anyways so they're talking about the moon and Mars and. I just don't get why the interest like like yes someday we will live on Mars and I'm looking at just like that just doesn't seem like a good idea I just can't imagine a washed ation on Mars so I humbly recommend planet Earth. Prefer to be your farm that's also easier our humble recommendation is that if at all possible have the washed ation in the middle of your farm this is an Auto CAD image of our farm layout part of which exists part of which does not exist we'll get into that a little bit later there is however. An exception and or general rule of thumb when it comes to having your wash house in the center of your farm and what's that oh well if you live in a place like this. You've got a the general rule of thumb the general rule of thumb is go up empty come down fall OK you want to work with gravity and I know some people they purchase a farm and it's like I don't know what the deal is but it's like oh I want to farm let me put my house on top of the. Hill And I'm like. You're going against gravity people now there are times when you can't put things at the lowest point because that's where all your water goes so there's a balance here but the idea is that if you live on sloped ground have your fields above your washout So you go up empty and you come down full and you're working with gravity it makes a big difference so that would be the only exception to the rule and of course I just love that picture it's just like so freaky. But anyways. So some people hypothesize. How the civilization of macho Picchu failed and I have a hypothesis as well there washhouse was probably up there and as you can see it didn't work out so well so. I let you know OK Moving on now so next point. Let your wash house grow with your farm I think we shall grieve we touched on you know like your first walking cooler was your fridge reader right so we just wanted to take you on a brief flashback on better together so that you can see our first what our first washhouse these are what you would call our baby pictures. So here's our. Little was being called that is a semen mixing barrel bit like you know thing that you get. Yeah so about a large don't mind the cat food sitting right behind it these are baby pictures minute you gotta start like you guys are wash sink this is our mud room sink. Here's our way our way station ya my mom never got that bread scale back yeah we just donated it to the plant had shovel with walking kitchen utensils and we won't talk about that. And here's our working cooler No that's or looks like a refrigerator door is that liquid I mean you say Yes So anyways so that was our first wash house then our second washouts we upgraded we actually moved outside we found this large three big stainless steel commercial sink at. Auction a silent auction and these are great places to pick up fairly expensive fairly expensive pieces of equipment this sink it's an amazing sink we'll have pictures of it later to your kind of see it but that was well that was two hundred one dollars that we got for that stainless steel sink it's a really nice sink so never never try to buy or wash stuff like brand new if you can help it try to get something that's been used and you're going to save a lot of money. Right and even though this was really nice and under the tree it's probably not quite up to code when it comes to flying creatures that my like to we had a we actually raised baby blue jay and she took baths in the sink but we won't talk about that either OK. Yet and this is our third washhouse which it was our last washhouse before we relocated so our current washouts under it's under construction but this is our most recent operational washhouse you see my dad is here in the foreground and my grandparents and my mom and I are in the back so to give you kind of a bird's eye view of what our floor plan looked like this was the idea we had our walk in cooler on the top well on the top of the screen are three basic work tables here a wash table down here in the south. Harvest spends on that impact table so when we are designing this we try our best to keep the flow in wonder. Action so that you never had dirty backwash in essence so that dirty to clean yet dirty to clean so we gather harvest bins and go out to harvest and then we'd come in on the west side of the screen to these work tables which we call their dirty tables and that's where we. Put our stuff sorry sorry I didn't mean to take that I just mind I didn't mean to take it but anyways I just wanted to mention here real quick is that the door where we brought stuff in was west facing and that's really important because you usually do the most of your harvest in the morning and so it actually shades that your building actually will shade that part and so you can put your bins outside there and the sun will hit and so why they're waiting to go in to be washed they don't get scorched and so that's a really practical tips when you're designing I would do it you know I would go from west to east as far as you're concerned could take advantage of the morning sun not being there in the winter time go from. The other way and our current and our current wash house is also a west facing part OK. Not consciously OK so come in on the dirty side and then the product would come in after we got excess dirt off of it and it would go to one of three areas depending on the product if it was like our lettuce mix or spend it or other such things we don't come in the three Bay sink because that went through three three washes. And then if it was roots and stuff we do it on our wash table the hydro cooling tub is where we'd cool our head lettuces are killer charges are we put but let us mix it really depended on what was in the tanks and the three basics of the three basic was full the hydro coolant tank would be R R R overflow where we. Put things into hold and then we would scoop it out of there and do two washes since it darted gotten its initial dunk. Then it would go from the washing area to the PAC area worst this is still a process of refinement do not by any means look at the Slike the ultimate it was not I mean there was plenty of times where like we could do this so much better but just kind of showing you where we got to yeah general flow then packed tables and then once the process of packing was done take it to the walking cooler and then out to our van to delivery So one important thing to note about this is that it's an open structure which is really really nice because you can be flexible with how you have things arranged because you're not dealing with walls and or columns and or permanent structures if you had a house like in here with these posts right down the middle I would want this a completely free span because I don't want to try have to work around post in order to move tables it just keeps the whole system really open and you can manipulate it for different processing that you need to do. So just a couple pictures to show you what this floor plan looks like and roll life heroes are washed table that I told you about for roots and stuff this was actually a we used to squat and or sit on the base of that cement. And after about a season of that and Lake we've got to change our strategy so ound built us this wash table which was inspired by a farm that we went and visited and it was an absolute lifesaver So here's where we're still working on figuring out how to work the hose situations at the hose comes from above and then we're working on figuring all that out but it's a step in the right direction. It's a nice beats That's our three Bay wash sink. And just move our spinach in there it's our hydro cooling tub. Which was. A used to be a contrast that we had at the place for my folks worked and when they closed it my mom got it for a really good deal planning to do hydrotherapy so the plants are getting high just therapy right now until she has a real place she can put it it works really nice for doing a hydro cooling there's a little contention on who owns it I said the farmers that she says they own it will see who wins in the end we're taking good care of it though just in case we ever need to do real hydrotherapy treatments on it right right yeah OK there's are packed full. Scale with skills yes. I don't know if you mention this but you want to buy good quality scale some of these cheaper scales just like break so easily and then you're stuck so I would definitely I probably wouldn't spend less than one hundred fifty dollars on a scale if it's under that it's probably a piece of junk and only lasted for a few months. I was going to say wait the woman. Was the limit of the way. Oh yeah they're regulated certified so we have a guy that comes and checks the skills and the design has to be certain and that. And that to. So there are people that sell scales that aren't necessarily built up to specifications that it needs to be to be able to consider them legitimate scales that you can weigh and do selling with so you want to make sure that they're certifiable and then also for me is it Torode You Know It's True Tori Yeah that's what we use it's the really great brand Yeah if you want to connect with me afterwards I'm happy to share with you the Amazon link that we got ours from. OK so here's a just little picture of our box a we'll share with you briefly a little bit later in another presentation about how we actually do our product distribution because it's a little bit unique and then here is our boxes in our walking to her. Glass getting to a glass part of the section multi-use infrastructure we are big fans of structures. Because they're dynamic they're inexpensive they're a free span structure so you're not going to have center supports in him so they're very dynamic as far as inside is concerned as far as you know moving stuff in a now and around and these particular ones are actually built on built on two by two skids like galvanized square tubing and we welded an inch and seven eighths thick I don't know if it was twelve gauge I want to say fourteen or twelve gauge pipe on top of that about six inches tall and that's what we slid our hoops into and the idea is that it's not bolted into the ground and because where we first started farming we knew we weren't going to be there long term it just wasn't that well talk about why it wasn't and in our last lecture but it just wasn't. We wasn't where we knew we were going to be long term so we wanted to have something we could take with us and so making sure that your infrastructure is not only. And light needs to be very mobile and that's why we like the hoop house so we're just going to show you kind of how this has gone through many renditions first where you want to go through the Sure so this was Allen's first two palace he got it back in two thousand twelve. Yes spring of February of two thousand and twelve and it was his first to the house so he had tomatoes in it and then it became our first seed house and then it became our first wash house and now it's our first pump palace and shop. So yeah different location it's moved every single time as it's been repurposed a mobile structure yeah. So Al and I were thinking we'd go ahead and get the name pioneer who knows maybe it might be my first house I mean you know you never know. History and it's moving up in the world Yeah sure OK So one other thing to consider with washouts is. You can be using a lot of possible water so need to make sure that your floors drain while he don't want to be in assuming I just want to mention one thing about the hoop houses if you're in a super cold climate unless you're going to heat that who pass it's. There's just there are just physical limitations to who houses as well and I'm not sure if I would use it as a watch house if I was let's say above zone six unless it was heated because I know Coleman uses that as a wash house. But you have to rethink your whole design especially when you're going farther north and try to to add heat in and stuff like that to really make it but then when you're out here. Yes you just need just just take that as a kind of think OK if I'm going to be using this and I'm going to think about using it when it might be freezing outside this is who houses like this are really only for spring summer fall. All production if you're ever going to try to go through a winter with the who pass it has to be heated you know put a double layer make it into a greenhouse basically it's Monday it's got it so I have. A thought here we have three minutes left but we have the commune presentation we can probably put your. Section in with the next presentation so we can finish the washouts and have a long OK so that's what we're going to do we're going to finish this washouts bit and then we'll save the irrigation layout for the next presentation will bundle it with efficiency so make sure floors drain well so we'll talk about let's talk just briefly about wash floors there's three kind of large generic types. Dirt gravel landscape fabric and cement. So pros and cons to these different types of floors dirt is well dirt so it's super economical like it doesn't cost you anything because it's already there. But it's really hard to clean it gets really money we are taking as assumption that your farms do have dirt on them we don't want to you know you might be like true that this might not be the case you know you never know just want to make sure that more than likely more than likely that your it's already there OK So dirt but it's just a lot of weight is not a good idea if you're just starting out though and you're trying to experiment might not. Might not be a bad idea gravel is what we have used primarily in our and it's been it's been pretty good the Go down side in my mind is well especially if you get the finer gravel because you get the larger gravel and standing in there for several hours during the day it really starts to hurt your feet and your legs and cause you know you're constantly walking on this very uncomfortable on level surface but if you get the finer gravel that not the dusty kind What's that called was. Wash gravel Yeah it's not all that bad the downside is when you get like. Like your will to veggies and stuff on the ground it's hard to clean up and you can't you know solar is downsides but it is economical and it's not permanent so if you have your washouts in one area and you decide you want to in another area later it's very easy to move. Sorry Harley behind. Winds keep fabric now that's what we have in this current one which is. Where you said that they use in Seattle right and he said it was a mud mess Yes so are lika but it is economical our base soil on our farm is a sandy loam so it drains pretty well so I don't know if I don't know we'll see I don't know if we'll have the same issue that Larry did I think yours is probably a denser soil possibly. Seattle next to a slower sounds dense So anyways just just that it might work well see this will be an experience next year come back and. Tell you where you learned and then cement which is kind of like our alternate the cement like. Cement floors because it was meant it's really easy to spring off. You can roll things wheels and save your back which sounds like a really nice idea. Really easy to clean I think I said that already put in a poxy and make it whatever color you want Yeah the. Cement is but it is permanent and it is very expensive so it's kind of something that we don't want to do until we're certain hey this is our forever home and then put it down and so those are the four general types of that we're going to go ahead and stop take a break and then we'll jump and small farmers. This media was brought to you by audio from a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free service. Audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio verse if you would like to listen to more servant leader Visit W W W audio verse or.


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