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Healthy Profits: Growing Ginger and Turmeric

John Dysinger

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John Dysinger

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  • January 15, 2021
    10:45 AM
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Their Heavenly Father's respect in the next hour together here I pray that it will be an hour well spent. The information that is shared would be helpful and educational Lord we want to be more than that we want your spirit to be here we want your encouragement we want your wisdom and. Blessings in Jesus name we pray. So our talk today is titled healthy profit growing ginger and tumor now for the sake of full disclosure. I have to admit up front here that I have grown ginger and to Merrick semi's successfully one time Ok but apparently that was. 100 percent more times than anyone else had grown and they were trying to teach so I agreed to teach because I knew it would be a good opportunity for me to learn more so I tried to do my homework my research and believe me just like everything else there's tons of information on Ginger and tumor out there on the web and I will give you for resources at the end that I found particularly helpful you can take a picture of those so yeah I'm not a ginger in tumor growing experts but I'm happy to share what I've learned so why grow ginger and tumor again let let me just take a quick poll how many of you here are market gardeners. Ok number. And the rest would be doing this I assume on a on a Holmes you know for home use probably. Well again I'm going to admit right off I have not done a whole lot of well I really haven't done much of any research on the health benefits of ginger and tumor I mean I've I've read some so I'm not totally. Ignorant on it but. There's a lot there kind of. What's the word in vogue right now right in the scientific community and in the world ginger and Schumer of are big so you know again I haven't done my own research but everything I've seen says they're really good for you and I actually do take 2 Merrick pills every day so I hope it's good for me. It's a unique niche market product not available in the stores and when I say that I'm talking about something very different than what is available in the source obviously you can go the store and buy Ginger I don't know how it is by tumor but that's a very different product than what you see here this is actually some of what we grew up on the. The top right is Baby Gender and the top are the bottom left is baby tumor it doesn't look like what you buy in the store now it's very different it's a totally different product it doesn't have the hard shell on it I don't know what else you call it when it when it's mature you don't have to peel it or anything you can just grade it as it is it's just much more tender much more. I don't know I think it's just when people get used to using it they love it the feedback is amazing so it is a very different and unique product if you're interested in growing it her or market it does have significant profit potential and you know the reality is if you if you've been growing a garden or a market garden her very long it's kind of like you like a new challenge something other than the same old same old right so it is kind of a punch challenge to grow it so the 1st thing I want you to remember when you're. When you're thinking of growing ginger into Merrick is you've got to think why. Why is like ginger and Toomer have it Ok that's where we get our seed from that's where it grows abundantly so what you gotta do is turn wherever you live in Hawaii. You have to adjust the environment to make it why and seventy's or low eighty's now you know this is not. The deep tropics we're at 95 degrees and high humidity Gendron Toomer really don't like it's super hot but they like it seventy's eighty's you know year round. You know if you've ever been there it's not too hot is. At least it wasn't when I was there. And especially because of course they're islands so if you're anywhere near the coast you have those green and everything so but it is a humid environment so you want in you Miltie not too much heat How are you going to get that if you live in Michigan or somewhere like that. Again the temperatures in the upper eighty's and ninety's ginger and tumeric don't really appreciate so much so you just have to keep that in your mind all the time if you're thinking of growing this Ok how do I how do I keep my little white here so the 1st thing you want to do is start with a clean See this is a little downside especially the ginger in that is that it's quite susceptible to a number of soil borne disease. So you know a lot of people think well Ok I want to grow Ginger let me go the store and buy a little bit a ginger and also stick it in the ground well that may work but then again you may end up with. Some disease issues. We we have gotten our ginger and every grower I know of. Their ginger from this whole why an organic Ginger dot com link is on the screen there. I know there are other distributors but I know this is this is one of the oldest and best and what they do is they start a new plant every few years with tissue culture and so they're very very careful and they don't actually grow it in the ground they grow it up on benches so they're very careful about keeping it clean keeping it from getting. So it's a good source I will just warn you they run out they actually I think open Well you can you can actually see order to Merrick now I think but the gingers goes on sale February 1 and the reason I didn't grow it last year was because I missed they were sold out I thought they were going to you know notify me when they opened but I missed. So we didn't grow ginger into Merrick last year another thing that they recommended that you don't grow it in close rotation with the night shade family because the night family tends to have. To be prone to some of the same disease and that's a bit of a problem because where are most of us in the u.s. Where are we going to need to grow this in order to be a little bit like a white We're going to need to grow it in some kind of how verged sheltered place right. So and that's also where you normally grow your tomatoes and those kind of thing so that could be a bit of an issue if you're trying to use you know of course the solution hopefully would just be to keep your soil in really good shape where organisms aren't thriving there. To be the 2 varieties we've grown and they seem to be the 2 main garage that. Rowers that I know of in the u.s. growing it used Bob Ababa Blue Ginger and red Hawaiian to Merrick those are 2 right is obviously there's many others but those are well proven they work. And then. The tumor I don't know how well you can see these pictures from where you are but the tumor is quite easy to divide so you'll get something that looks like see these are 2 pieces here but they have these fingers off the main mother Ruth and you're going to break those fingers Ah at least the larger ones you notice these 2 they would encourage you to break off the knees jury so you're leaving 2 smaller ones on here or one smaller one on there you don't want to break them all off but you can divide it so they go for that and then here's some pictures and. 2 things. On how to cut Ginger Ginger is a little bit more takes a little bit more knowledge and skill and I just took the slides off the Internet there's some. Spelling mistake there that I take no credit for and also they suggest their allies in your knife with vodka I would probably just say rubbing alcohol and. Don't don't tell anyone that I was encouraging you to go by God. Anyway what you want to do the trick here is they say make sure your cuts are a quarter inch above flush with the other fingers so you've got all these fingers going off you don't want to cut it right at the base you want to cut it up a quarter of an inch or so because that's going to shrink up as it heals and I don't know all the reasons that's what they say but I will say like with a Hawaiian clean seed you can pay is a fairly minimal. And they will cut the ginger for you and that's kind of what they recommend for beginners you know if you haven't done a lot of it so you can have that So here you see it cut into all these pieces they have little I guess you would call them where the sprouts are going to come out oh sorry yeah thank you just help me with. So after their cut you want to leave them on a rock or something with some good airflow for about 5 days to cure it's. Ok so you want to Priest route your ginger into Merrick You have to understand these have a super long. To ring to grow ginger to maturity takes basically a year. And I'm talking about the maturity that what you see in the store Ravi Asli you know for us in a more temperate climate we don't have a year to grow it you know unless you're wanting to add and I don't know if you can justify that. So you want to get it like in in February or early March maybe if you're up further north and you want to get started on the process here so you you want your temperatures to be $72.00 or above but not hotter than the mid eighty's. And that one good thing is that light is not. Essential for routing to initiate routing so I did read about some people just putting him inside you know on a cause that somewhere something well I mean you gotta do it somewhere where. You do have to water them some not a whole lot so you want somewhere where you're going to be able to. To water them but it doesn't have to be like in a greenhouse or something so you want to use a soil less peat or Cormick you know again for those who don't know core is made from sugar shredded coconut house and you know being the whole lion thing they might like or in fact the people from wine cleans the core words better. So I don't know. Then this picture is really not a good picture because I think you can plant them a lot closer than that but normally you would just do them like in a 1020 tray or something cut down a layer of potting mix and then just lay them out in the tray not touching each other but they can be close and then you cover them with with an inch or 2 more of potting mix just so they're barely covered then you want to keep them more but avoid over watering and this is where I think we made our purse mistake with our ginger because we did have some some disease issues with our ginger our ginger yield was not as big as it should have been. I will say tomorrow it seems to be a little. Maybe more hardy and we had lots of tumour and so just make sure so I think our 2 mistakes were number one we didn't have it quite hot enough we were doing it in our greenhouse and I have the thermostat set like it's $65.00 now in the daytime obviously if the sun is out it's going to get at least to 70. But at night you know it probably wasn't warm enough so they definitely like it warm and and again don't keep the soil soggy let it dry out a little between water and obviously don't let it fall on your eye but just cut back on the watering and be patient this is a man I'll tell you the tumour it took her ever I mean I think it was probably 2 months before it routed. You know it's going to be probably at least 4 weeks and that when you're when you're waiting for something to sprout for weeks seems like it's turning right. But you just have to be patient just make sure it's staying the right temperature and the right moisture and then wait the ginger definitely sprouted much earlier than the tumor. But what I started having issues with was sprouts would back down and another problem I had was I didn't have greenhouse base ready to plant them on so that's another thing you got to think about you know soon as they start rounding up you need to put them out in the greenhouse. How much feed do you need so average average expansion rates are between 8 to one and 12 to what. You understand what that means for every pound of you by you're going to get a 12 pounds of your product when it's grown and again these are averages I've heard you know like 4 to one and as high as 16 to one so obviously it depends a lot on your soil and your the care that you put into it so 30 pounds of. Plant 100. Bed in a double row 6 inches apart. 6 inches apart. In a bed. The spacing recommendations vary again with between 4 and 10 inches apart some people call them really close others like to have them a little further apart with a little more air flow in everything and some people do it in a single row down your bed the middle of the bed others do it I think it's more common to do a double row and your beds 42 inches on center you know these actually quite large you know. Haul so you don't want to crowd him in there Ok then you want to plant out into a warm protected environment where most of the us that means a greenhouse or who House soil temperatures when you plant it out ideally should be above 50 degrees so you can buy a very inexpensive soil thermometer and check the temperature of your soil. Now I. One of the resources in the back or at the end of the. Slide show is to a video Curtis Stone videoed a grower up in Canada who was growing it in a greenhouse up there he was getting amazing yields an amazing profit but you know Canada of course. The great white north right so you he was using hoops over his bed and then covering the beds with plastic. To keep it warmer especially in the early spring so again it's all about trying to imitate Hawaii and so in the early spring you may want to add either plastic or if it's not quite that cold a layer of row cover over the ginger into Merrick to keep that temperature in the right range now Ginger and this is another thing we didn't do I didn't do enough research before we grew our as. They say it benefits from being held 2 or 3 times through the season so when you plan to dig a bit of a trench you know plant that fairly I mean just it's very similar to potatoes. So planted in the ditch and then held it up and what they say and again you know you can get into more detail with some of the resources I've given you but when you see the ginger turning pink on top that's when you 1st. The 1st filling. And you may not be able to see that unless you dig away a little bit of the dirt and see where where the foliage meets the right roots and then a couple more times has the ginger like to go up now another thing they say about these crops particularly of ginger is that they need a lot of her Tillett in their high feeders heavy feeders. Here's a picture of ginger and tomorrow you know which is which the ginger is on the left and the 2 Americas on the right very very different leaf structure. But. The recommendations and for home gardeners this this may be a little bit hard to wrap your mind around but I have the equivalent of $15.00 to $20.00 tons of compost per acre so I try to do some math on that and I think it would be roughly $3.00 to $4.00 wheelbarrow loads per 100 foot bed so you could kind of break that down a little further and then is stronger so that's that's a good compost of course is a good general. Hurdle eyes are soil enhancer then they recommend an additional $150.00 pounds per acre of nitrogen and I didn't even try to figure that out because it depends obviously on your nitrogen source you know. Being meal is around 80 percent nitrogen and said their meal was around 13 percent nitrogen alfalfa meal it's usually more like sure 3 percent nitrogen so you have to take the actual I'm trying to think of how to say this quickly and simply but. For every 100 pounds so say we're using soybean meal for every 100 pounds of soybean meal you're getting 8 pounds of nitrogen that makes sense because 80 percent nitrogen. So if you need 150 pounds to the acre. This is where math comes in in the garden right you're going to have to figure that out you know how many square feet there are per acre right and. You break that down to however big your area. This is good math in the garden so the way they recommend doing that is putting on a 100 pounds and again this is not 100 pounds this is 100 pounds per acre and I'm pretty sure you're not going to be growing in a ginger the equivalent of $100.00 pounds per acre of nitrogen at planting and then $225.00 pound applications through the season that makes sense that I lose you on that. And then again you're wanting to be thorough with your water you know why they get a lot of rain right but you know because of the intensity of the sunshine and everything it tends to dry out some between rains so you don't want to keep the soil soggy let it dry out then give it a thorough watering Ok And after that. Comes the harvest. So I would say generally speaking wait as long as possible to harvest the longer you wait the greater your yield is going to be because they're going to just. Multiplying underground there but I would say at least 6 months so we're talking about a long time in the hoop house the only way a market gardeners can justify this is if they're getting a really good price for their. For their ginger and the fact that so many market gardeners are growing it tells me that it's profitable for them so they can stay in the ground even after frost and we did this actually so with our experience with growing ginger it was ready to harvest end of October and we were headed to remain for almost a month the beginning of November so basically we scrambled and harvest a bunch of it well I think we harvested all the gender and then probably half the tumor but. The harvesting and particularly cleaning the washing is you know just look at that and imagine trying to wash that you know there's so many crevices and places for dirt to hang out that the washing and cleaning is actually a huge job and so we washed and cleaned Josh rent took at the market man it sold like hotcakes I mean it was unbelievable people just were almost fighting for it. But then we had to go to to Romania and they had you know a lot of their own stuff they were trying to do the farm going and so we put whatever didn't sell in the cooler and we'll have to wait till we come back well that was a big win. Because by the time we got back most of it was more. So it was a learning experience and. We know what not to do next. But the point is so some of the tumor stayed in the greenhouse and between when we left and came back from Romania the frost the time we did cover it with rogue cover but still the tops were largely still back but you can still keep it there at least this is what I read in the remarks period as long as there is at least an inch of green hill left above the rhizome. You know the dead the foliage will die back and eventually it will go down in the roots it's kind of like that sweet potatoes. And if it comes down in the root then it's going to compromise the root so you just have to be monitoring that and you know the good thing and what we would like to do this year is just you know we start harvesting earlier because our markets and the end of October so I mean I think they had it for just one market but if we started just harvesting a little bit at a time like you know least the beginning of October at least for me to have 4 markets sell it. And then even after the frost comes we can still keep some in the ground and just harvest rather than trying to harvest it all at once and wash it all at once. So you just dig it up gently with a digging fork obviously you want to be careful that you're not stabbing it and then cleaning it which. Is a big job so then what do you do with it so you've got a product that is much more perishable then mature or ginger and tumor it can only. It can only last for a couple of weeks. Story They say above 55 degrees and again I think this is a mistake we made as our cooler was cooler than 55 degrees but it doesn't usually get cooler than 55 degrees in Hawaii so yeah another lesson learned so you can keep it for a couple weeks for a fresh market but after that what are you going to do with it well there's 2 main things that I know of well probably I mean there's. Too you can dry it just life it up into thin slices and lay it out your de hydrate or and dry it and then you can just store it that way grind it up. I don't think that's probably a very profitable way to sell it because you know they do that on such a big scale elsewhere I think if you're trying to make money with it you gotta keep it in that fresh they so this is the way you do that you get a vacuum sealer some of you probably have one if you don't they're not that expensive you get a vacuum sealer and you just heard it I don't remember the weight you know Announcer 2 of ginger or tumor in a vacuum bag and vacuum you know all the air out of it and then stick it in the freezer and it will indefinitely we experimented with that and I think we still have our ginger in the freezers the looking fresh and baby like. You know then over a year later. And so then this just takes a little education with your customers because they're not use the baby Ginger unless it's a big city where they're somebody else the supplying them so you just tell him Ok you can buy it buy it now because it may be gone next time put it in your freezer and you know you sell it to them vacuum packed intro's so they just need to take it home put it back in the freezer then whenever they need a little ginger or tomorrow they take it out grade it and then stick it back in the freezer before it thaws out so that's a great way to turn a very perishable product into something that will last indefinitely if you're really entrepreneurial. You can you know you cut off the the foliage Usually you want to leave an inch or 2 and then I'm kind of talking the market gardens here but you know leaving an end should 2 kind of shows everyone this is fresh This is not the ginger you're used thing in the stores but all this whole edge I mean you've got huge amounts of foliage there you can if you can like a save the entrepreneur if you can sell that I've heard of people selling it to restaurants and other places they make a t.v. out of it. And you can actually especially we found with the tumor egg take the mother roots what you planted in the spring when you dig it up that thing doesn't look much different than you plant to that you can still use that for a tease or something they don't recommend replanting it I did read about people who tried to do that and the 2nd year the vigor was never as good as the person. So don't try to replant it but you can certainly use it for your own purposes dry it out or whatever. Yeah what time do we stop here. I think it's 1145 is that right. We're good I'm almost here so would just a little education that sells well and you can get a premium price the University of Kentucky has a good hand out on it and it's in my resources here that suggests the cost of growing ginger which of course would be the cost of the seed plus the labor of growing it down a cost $3.00 to $5.00 a pound just in your your cost so obviously you need to sell it for a lot more than $5.00 a pound in order to make a profit at it but I've. Heard anything from $10.00 to $20.00 plus dollars a pound per selling fresh ginger again you're differentiating your customers this is not ginger from the store this is a totally unique unique. Thing I think that's as far as what I have and here's the resources. These are just for like I say there's a lot out there but I found these 4 particularly helpful ones from the University of Kentucky one's from Rodale one's from growing for market for any of you market gardeners I highly recommend growing for market magazine and then the last one is a You Tube video with her it is known in this grower in. Canada so with that I can't say much more because that's about all I know about growing ginger and tumeric So we'll open it up for questions and I guess they would like you to come up to the mike so it's recorded Well hello thanks so much. I have a question about the. Ginger are too right compared to what you call mature Do you know the difference and benefit the differences like nutritionally and stuff is that what you're asking. Honestly I can't say much about nutritional differences I do know that it's more tender you know the feedback I've gotten from people rowing is that they really enjoy cooking with stuff it's just very nice to work with like I say you don't have to peel it or any of that so that I guess about all I can say on that as far as the baby Ginger I might have been out when you had talked about it but your saying that you can harvest Ginger very very innate. Is that. They need ginger that you're harvesting Yeah that's a good question At what point does it turn from baby to mature and that obviously it's a gradual process so the longer it's in the ground the helper the skin's going to be it starts losing that. I don't know how to go back to the very beginning but that pink you know that is beautiful you know because you've got the Greens them and then the pink in the white it's just really pretty. As it matures it's going to lose that pink glow and start looking more brown like like regular Ginger Yeah or so but again let me just say it takes a leaven months or so to get totally to maturity so the only way you're going to be able to do that is either if you live in south Florida or else your you have it in the. House at least so I had purchased Ginger and I had planted it and so you're saying that I would have had to have waited until this year. It's basically a year pretty much a whole year Ok yeah I think and can you do them and Pat Yes I mean I I'd never recommend growing and I just to me it is much harder than in the soil but there are many people that do it in pots and I should say you know that's all you've got if you're still in the city and you're growing in pots and good for you. Good on you as they say in Australia but in my mind growing in pots is much more difficult than growing in the ground. If you want to use the boat if you want to go see or. For this because you know the baby wanting. Or not the one to they must show for you to grow them again but you know I think everything. I believe and again I'm not an expert on this but I believe you would need to get mature ginger to plant. I mean I don't I think if you tried to replant the babies. Would not work well but that's a good question perhaps I'm a little confused because you're growing all the way through winter through who houses so your There's going to be susceptible to the process well we're not trying to grow it true the winter we're just trying to extend we're trying to get it started as soon as we can in the spring so we turned the heat on in our seed starting green out the beginning of February so you know that we want to get it sometime in February get it routing and then we planned it out know who to house and. Pretty much all are who How are unneeded and so you know it's going to go to usually beginning of November or something before you know 3 and so from November because that will you have to wait a little longer so we're getting baby we're harvesting baby Ginger We're not trying to get it to maturity Ok so in November you're harvesting the. So it's a long it's a long season and you're saying you don't know if you could plant that change or I don't think you could I never read anything that suggested you could but I'm not positive because when you're talking about in the beginning you had the cut where you're supposed to cut the point and I thought it was to replant gold or no that's not I know that when you buy the cd Either you have them cut it or it's going to come to you or like and then you need to I mean you don't have to you can plant the whole thing but it's not going to go as far. Yes you buy the mature Ginger prefer bleed from somebody who knows what they're doing and you know has cleaned the car what happens if it's not clean I mean what happened well when I say clean I'm talking about clean from the not clean and dirty Yes if it's not going then you're going to have disease issues and we had some and you know the ginger rots so it's very evident Yeah yeah you will definitely know if you're ginger or not. Any other questions yes thank you for the chorus. We've got plenty of zines so. We run out of ginger questions we can ask another question. Just a quick question when you say mature to fat mean it has reached the flowering stage or. Or how do you know how do you know when it's mature I guess easiest way I would say is it's going to look like what you buy in the grocery store you have to dig it up just as as compared to what I showed you the pink white. Well I was this one did years flower at all or no I know long it takes to reach that to reach the flowering No I I think that the flowering is kind of hit or miss I don't think and I could be wrong on this but I don't think it always flowers Well I've been to Hawaii and I lived in Okinawa for a while and we see them in the flowers and I've wondered where that came and yeah I think that's pretty close to maturity. Yeah I mean I've never read of them flowering you know in the babies. How do. They grow into the ground well I guess with with Ginger it's going to be helpful to dig a bit of a trench 6 inches or so the plant. With the tumour they say there's no real advantage to planting the so just put it in and you know cover an inch or 2 and I have one other question you send the ginger still between 10 to 20 dollars a pound is that the same for the team right there is a difference you know it's hard to say because the prices all depends on your your market in the demand you know so like how much did you jealous your gender people know. How to deal with ginger more than they do to murder so your tumor is going to need more education you know tumor acute use largely I think in Asian cuisine right I mean I don't know I'm not a cook but yeah so they're the ones that know how to use tumour and you know most American. Customers aren't going to be cooking with it probably although the more educated ones you know are going to have been reading about the health benefits and they're going to be interested and one more question and in July June July and know how hot it gets where you're at do you have a cooling wall the have something to keep the cool air or just fan pressure and we do not have a cooling wall because in our part of the country the humidity is so high that evaporative cooling doesn't work well if you're out west that's a wonderful tool that you have but it doesn't work well. You know the best we can do is cover the hoop house which they want which definitely helps. Is that what it looks like when you take it to the market Oh hey how did that get back up. Thank you yeah yeah that's exactly what it looks like now I wanted I'm glad this is back up there because I wanted to show you I don't know if you can see right there it's kind of black. That was some disease on there that you know we tried to kind of head off but yeah that that shows you a bit of what can happen just kind of starts rotting there but yeah this is. This is what what we would take to Mark and how do you rush. How do you wash it just painstakingly you know with a spray or just trying to you know and people have to understand you may not get every speck of dirt out of it but just bring it from all different angles Ok you don't go at it with a brush or anything because that would know right no I would not recommend the brush because the skin is very soft and even not a real high pressures gray or just normal pressure and you can't even put it depicts and make it go around in the right of because that was all her problem her. Yeah if you're rolling it with a bunch of other ginger that robbery would be good but now I will say we did break it apart you know because what you're seeing here you know the actual quote may have been sure it's 3 times that big so it's almost impossible to get it really clean so we would break it up because the other thing is most people aren't going to buy big clumps of. When you're selling it. Are you from passing the foil at all or does the prefer fluffier and more expensive Yeah I never and again we didn't until ours so we haven't I haven't had experience with that but I never read anything that suggests that you should compact. And then him a disco no Mark. Chmura can. Make sure to America after our. Own recall so part of the medicinal Martin Yeah that's a good question that I don't really have the answer to as far as just no benefits a baby to America versus adult I would think my God would be that it would be just beneficial just like baby greens have higher actually nutrient value my greens you know for example have a higher than more mature so that would be my gut feeling but I don't know for sure but again I would never encourage any of you to try to sell your product. Explicitly for medicinal purposes because there's no way you're going to be able to compete. On price with you know the big growers that are growing acres and acres and some tropical. Laws again calling it medicinal yeah course you always have to be careful any time you're dealing with these kind of natural things don't make big claims. But you can share your personal experience. My question is can I grow it in a tunnel on heat it has to be heated yes no that most people grow them in unheated. Again at the very beginning of the season you may want some additional coverage like Rogan have or something. But yeah you can I mean we grew ours in an unheated. Again the priest routing it in that priest routing needs to be done in a heated way because you're doing it in February and March and it's you're not it's not going to be warm enough in an unheated but that doesn't require light use it so for example of basement with the right temperature Yeah. Thank you. Lotsa good questions I just want to make sure I'm clear on that if I get a cluster with the fingers on it and not cut the moth. I don't use a finger Ok to plant and I can just use but there's no way your cooking wives know. Incorrect. Right to make that clear when when you get the original ginger or a tumor or planting your planting everything. But what I was saying is when you dig that up when when you're harvesting it. In I honestly I don't remember with the January how it was with the tumor I know the original seed. Was still looking in very good shape you could always tell the original because it was a darker color you know it wasn't the bright orange it was more brown and so that's what I'm saying you don't want to replant Well I I don't recommend replanting any of this I'm not sure it would work but that is you can still use it it's not like it's bad like you need to throw it away or anything. That answer your question yeah plant everything but don't give them too small and with a tumour they say you want to leave at least one finger on the main land take them all. So I've been messing around with the ginger to Merrick the language and. Cardamom for quite a few years not necessarily for the market just because I think it's unique and it's interesting to grow. I live up in Washington State. And I'm not really dividing up a lot but. I grow things in a big pot just because it's cold and. But for me I'll grow it it will grow up nice and thick and fall and then it'll go dormant in the winter and it looks like it's dead permanently but it comes back up every year in the pond so. As far as the dividing what I've found is kind of like potatoes. Let it go to maturity divide it let it dry out and go dormant as a rhizome. And then you can cut it. You know say that right let it go to maturity whole it apart let it go dormant just sitting on the in a box there shelf to it dries out that cut like you would do for seed potatoes you don't dig your potatoes up and then replant them you dig them up you let them hard not go dormant get the skin on it and then in the spring later on you cut it up you let that cut dry and then put it back in the ground. Now to maybe kind of add to what you're saying I have found as a grower have done a lot of greenhouse stuff for quite a few years the people who are telling you No no moderate what I'm saying here but I have found the people who are telling you to get new every year are the suppliers. And I could hardly. Get it's like you have a motive for telling me this. But if if you see disease coming in well yeah you know you need some fresh stock every year but if what you're harvesting is clean and it's nice and you see no signs of you know play around it yeah you know I think that's a good point and go ahead you know. Maybe you should go up to the mike. Pence and when you say you'll harvest when you harvest the stock you Harvick them also you have it at that stage and then your net debt to you at that if there's and then you use it in revenge you know are you saving them the fact the model when I when I pull it out or ground it it's a lot more but sure look in or out of the pot again I'm not doing this at scale I'm just doing it for kicks it's not tender like this I'm leaving it until it goes dormant and then a hole in it up and I'll break those fingers off and rather than sticking that fresh break. Back into a pot and watering it because you've got that fresh wound that you just made break it apart and let it dry out. On a fan. And then after it's dried out and it just kind of hardened off then. Ok thank you so well we can kind of and with a point I'll just. Take from what he's saying and I think it's a very good point obviously you know. Suppliers are are going to if anything the spirit you at least the suppliers are going to discourage you from from saving your own seat because that's bad for their business. This is my take on some of these things you know especially like with potatoes I mean we've tried to save our city and in our climate we've definitely had more these issues if you try to save it especially for multiple years. So the way I look at it is we know because we have a prophetic message we know that the time is coming when we're not going to be able to vice right and we need to be preparing for that time I thought it might have been here last spring right when you can see the inning were they were sold out. So my thought is that as long as I can keep buying it I'm going to buy my. But as soon as I can buy it. I'm going to replant it because I believe in what. Makes sense kind of the pragmatic approach you know as long as I can buy it I'm going to buy it but you always want to keep in in the back of your mind or maybe more in the forefront of your mind that. I don't know I mean I've already heard you know the sea company this year are being bombed with orders Ok I guess we have one more question. I actually just have a comment. As far as the temperature. Are growing at. I live about an hour her hair and in the summer it's in the ninety's it's still possible to grow and I have not personally done it I have several friends in my community who grow Ginger every year so it is possible good thank you. And yeah so that's a good comment and just just remember that there's a difference between air temperature in oil temperature and soil temperature can be moderated by moisture and by shaving and so as the ginger grows up and the tumor. To be a pretty big plant so that is going to be moderating the the temperature of the soil so even though it may be $95100.00 air temperature Your be interesting to check the soil temperature but it shouldn't be that. So good point and yeah I'll just say one other thing there we talked about growing in the hoop house. But if you live in the southern half of the us I would say that the other 3rd maybe of the us you probably can't get by without having a hoop house I think it would still be advantageous to start it early in a heated area but then when the temperatures outside are pretty stable you can plant it outside I know plenty of people in Florida planted out. It is a perennial Ok yeah so. In the right environment it is a perennial very good well thank you for your time if you have any other additional questions I'll try to answer them but let's just close with a word of prayer their Lord thank you for the time we've had here thank you for helping as through the material ward I pray if there's anything I said that is not correct you would give people the sermon to figure that out. To do better. Just west of the Lord we know we're living in very uncertain times and we know that as we get closer to the end the time agriculture is going to become more and more important to give us strength and with the being. Jesus. This medium was brought to you by audio from a website dedicated to spreading God's word through free sermon audio and much more if you would like to know more about audio or if you would like to listen to more sermon please visit w w w dot audio person dot org.

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