GYC Conference 2023: But If Not

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Generation. Youth. Christ. (GYC)

I Know Something You Don't Know

Cody Francis

29 Failed Predictions from Adventists in 2008

Joe Reeves

Adventism According to CNN and Bill Maher

Sunday Law Rumor and Reality

Evil Surmising and Suspicion in the Church

Peter Chung

Mark Howard

Amy Ratsara

The Lure of Conspiracies Q&A Panel

Welcome to, if you're looking to learn something you don't know, I think you're in the right place, or at least I hope you're in the right place, hoping we can all learn together.

So this seminar is I Know Something You Don't Know, and then our subtitle or our sub point is the lure of conspiracies.

And so we're going to try to untangle a very tangled subject.

And we're going to try to untangle it from the Bible and the spirit of prophecy.

And we're looking at this meeting at 29 failed predictions from 2008, what it meant then, what it means today.

And then our next presentations, the Adventism according to CNN and Bill Mather.

Joe Reeves and I will be going back and forth.

Then we have Sunday Law Rumors and Reality.

And then we're looking at what's your, evil surmising and suspicion in the church.

And then on Friday morning, the fifth seminar, we're going to be having a Q&A session.

And so this is a slide, if you have questions, you can text your questions to that number and we will be getting them and looking them over and seeing what we'll be able to answer.

So we would love to get your feedback and get your questions there so that we have something to talk about on Friday morning.

So we hope that you will participate in that.

My name is Cody Francis and I serve as the Ministerial Director in Michigan Conference.

I'll just put in a plug right now that in the Adventist Church, particularly in the North American division, God is calling young people to serve him in ministry.

And we are always looking for those that God is calling to serve in ministry.

If you have a call to ministry or you're sensing a call, please come and talk to me.

I'd love to talk to you about it during 1 of the breaks.

But I want to go ahead as we dive into our subject, I want to go ahead and want to begin with prayer.

Father in heaven, we're grateful for the privilege that we have to come together to learn.

We thank you for the blessings we've already received as we've listened to the messages and been challenged.

And we pray that you'll be with us as we study and learn together and as we look at this challenging subject.

So I want to introduce you as we begin to some people that have interacted with recently.

So a couple months ago, I did an evangelistic series in 1 of our churches in Michigan, and we had people coming, of course, and as we had people coming and we had time to interact after the meetings were over and different times, they started to share different things with me.

Now I want you to recognize these are people that are searching, they're coming to a, I think ours was, I don't know, 20 meetings or something like that of Bible prophecy.

And so these were people that were taking time out of their schedule to come and study Bible prophecy.

And as we're visiting after 1 of the meetings, 1 of the ladies begins talking to me and she says, oh, have you been listening to so and so?

And I don't remember the name, or I give the name on YouTube.

And there's this big, and she started describing this big elaborate scheme.

And I don't even remember all of the details of the scheme.

We had just probably presented something like, I don't know what it was, but could have been the 2300 days, could have been the mark of the beast or something like that.

And what she's thinking about is this massive, what she described was terrible, of a child trafficking ring along the border and various things of this nature.

It was hard for me to be able to discuss the present, the biblical truth that we had just covered because her mind was all on this other area.

I was covering the Sabbath, this same seminar, and 1 of the things I do sometimes when we're covering the Sabbath is I give a little illustration.

I talk about how when Galileo was studying he came to the surprising conclusion that the earth went around the sun instead of the Sun going around the earth.

Now this is like 1 minute, I give this illustration 1 minute before I introduce and say and I end with the point and I want us to understand that the truth is still the truth whether you believe it or whether I believe it or whether anybody believes it, let's see if there's anything in the Bible that could differentiate those that receive the seal of God and the mark of the beast and I go right into the fourth commandment right there.

As I was going over this illustration and talking about how Galileo and I, someone calls out from the audience, it's not so.

And I was just like wait a minute here, what I can't quite get distracted because I'm about ready to cover the Sabbath right here.

And so afterward he comes up to me and he says, the earth is not round.

And I said, well that's interesting, What makes you think this?

And so he said, well, you see, and he starts going over, and I have to admit I wasn't very well versed on this idea.

And so he said, I said, well, let me give you a couple reasons.

I said, 1 reason is the Bible talks about the circle of the earth.

And so in his theory, whoops, missed that 1.

In his idea, this is the flat earth theory and you come, he says, planes never fly over Antarctica.

Well, I'd never flown over Antarctica so I couldn't say anything to that.

He said, you just run into a wall of ice.

So it's like this Frisbee with this wall of ice all around on the sides.

And I said, well, we've just been talking about the Bible, haven't we?

And I didn't want to get into a flat earth with him right then, because we just covered the Sabbath or something like that.

I said, don't you think this is what's more important?

And we talked about it a little bit more.

But these are real events that happened to me just within the last 2 months.

Another lady came to another seminar, this was a couple years ago, and she came all the way through a series of meetings.

She was in follow-up meetings, and she starts talking to me.

I don't remember what it was that made this as a catalyst, what this catalyst was, But she says, well you know the Denver airports?

She says, well there's these massive tunnels that connect Washington DC and the Denver Airport and there's these trucks that go back and forth underneath these tunnels and I'm just, my mind is spinning.

I'm thinking of the logistics of what this would take to actually do this and to remove all the exhaust and to have somebody drive 1, 500 miles, these big semi trucks.

And there was proof, there was evidence of it as well, in her mind at least.

And so there are more ideas out there that we can begin than to uncover.

You know, when they talk about, they classify different ages.

And I remember in school, I believe that they said we were in the information age.

Sometimes I wonder if we've moved from the information age to the disinformation age, because you can find anything out there.

Now, I wanna begin with a biblical story and think about a little bit.

It's a story that I believe sets the stage for some of what we're going to be visiting about today.

And in Absalom's rebellion, they had gone out to battle.

The king, David, was going to go out and they say, no, you stay back in the city.

Stay back in the city because you're worth more than 10, 000 of us and so David admonishes his generals, spare my son and So the battle takes place and Joab binds him and Joab puts an end to Absalom and then it's time to send a messenger back to David.

Now I want you to think, here is David waiting back at the city.

His kingdom is splitting apart, his son is leading it, and you can imagine he is extremely anxious to know what the outcome is going to be.

And so we pick up the story in 2 Samuel 18 and there was a watchman, or not a watchman, but a runner that wanted to run.

Now Ahimaz had done excellent service for David.

Ahimaz had given the message from the messengers in Jerusalem.

He'd hidden in the well, made it to David.

He was a runner, but Joab had said, you're a good man, I don't want you to take the message today." Ahiyamaz says, I really want to go.

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