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Logo of InVerse, 1st Quarter 2019: Revelation

08-Satan, a Defeated Enemy

Justin Kim Sikhu Daco Jonathan Walter



  • February 16, 2019
    9:30 AM

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The Bible has a narrative prequel of what happened to the world before the world ever began and God had one primary enemy and this enemy hated this one special group of people who is this group we'll find out on this episode of inverse. Coming to you from Silver Spring Maryland welcome to. The Bible based conversation on life principles contemporary issues and thought provoking. Now here's your host just until within the next day Welcome friends to this special episode of inverse every episode is a special episode of inverse we pray for the Holy Spirit we spend time with you we spend time with each other at least spend time in the word and we're about halfway through the season you guys were about halfway and it's been a great trip so far it's been an exhausting trip because we've gone through heaven and earth and then some and we're going to spend some time in Revelation Chapter 12 so if you ever buy those out there open your Bible says Chapter 12 every time we open Scripture we want to order prayers Jonathan and openness Absolutely let's pray Father you are the Almighty God and in you we have all our hopes and we focus on you as we study the word we asked of you will help us to understand this great controversy that is going on all around us in our lives help us to see Jesus in all of this those who pray in his name Amen Amen Amen Amen so you're going to go to Chapter 12 of Revelation and when reading verses one through Let's see one in history sure this is no agree sign appeared in heaven a woman closed with the sun with the moon under her feet on her head a garment of 12 stars then being with child she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth another sign appeared in heaven behold a great fiery. Dragon having 7 heads and 10 horns and 7 diadems on his. First 42 are there his tail 3rd of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth to devour her child as soon as it was born so she could I mean there's a lot of juice to people before we get to the juice where we've been so far and maybe as people were watching for the 1st time in this episode and there we go right smack in the middle of Revelation can you give us a really really really brief synopsis what are we covered in about 3 words. So we've come from a historical view of what's been happening in the OK So sign from chapter one we talked about. It's up to $2.00 and $3.00 we talked about this in the churches and. Every single time we getting this a reiteration of a historical view of the church is in progress and then you get to chapter 12 and you kind of have this hinge effect where we go from OK this is what's been happening historically and then now I want to zoom out a little bit and give you a kind of a global view of why this all matters what's what's the story behind the story to give context to the story and then it's going to go on to talk about the future of our current story yeah I love the historical view throughout history and I think we look at the same cherry and use that as a model for where we're at you know here Jesus priest this king is high priest as we've talked about in the previous episodes he's in the holy place and there's those 3 items and the holy place you have the candlesticks table showbread and the altar of incense and those are 7777 and I think is very important as with the historical application that these sevens are paralleling each other in time so not exactly where the 1st church is the 1st seal is the 1st trumpet but they're taking place from the end from about the Paul times. The 2nd coming of Jesus somewhere in that time period and there's a lot of people out there some weird people out there that then make them into chronological I mean they play some successively after each other and they get into a weird interpretation and they put you know the president of United States and the pope in and they put you know Africa in there and then they put in some people and it just makes it and this is a nice weird recipe anyway so we were in chapter 12 and then John say why what's going on Chapter 12 here well as it's kind of zooming out giving us a bigger picture and of course for those of you have been with us in the Book of Revelation you know that we are now everything is symbolic So we got to see here we see a woman clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet and then we see this other and she has a child. And then there is this great fiery dragon So this is 2 individuals what do they represent the woman clothed in the sun with the moon under her feet that is a symbol for God's people gone to church God's faithful people and he you know he uses pictures from nature the sun is used often to represent you know the glory of God the glory of Christ the moon the moon reflects the light of the sun you know God's people reflect the glory of God And so here and then this this woman God's people there's a child being born. From this woman and this child is to be understood to be Jesus Christ who came out of the you know out of the line of David the tribe of Judah and was born as a messiah and then we have the fire dragon who later on we are being told this is the devil this is Satan who sin verse 9 Chapter 12 so the great dragon was cast out that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan who sees the whole world he was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him so we're saying this is a story like in the open it's kind of a prequel you know sometimes we're used like Adam and Eve were created and then the story starts there but then we have an insight into the prequel how did Adam Eve get there who is being and then in verse 9 that serpent of that character in the beginning and that tree he's got a history also. And also give us some insights on this prequel story what's going on what happened and casting out what actually happened in the narrative you're talking about looking at verse 7 and onward Yeah yeah well it describes this is war in verse 7 breaking out in heaven Michael is Angel's fighting with the dragon in the dragon fighting in his angels so you have before. I guess I like the word prequel right because this is the story before the story so this is the back story of where sin came about. And jumping back before that what is the verse for his tale drawing a 3rd of the stars in heaven all of this language takes us back to the book of Isaiah Chapter 14 the book of easy CULE Chapter 28 where you have this juror of sin kind of arising in this glorious Angel's heart and then he goes to make war with God and eventually to make war with those whom God has created and now we go into the background of this this prequel meaning so you talk a germ of sin she had this perfect creature. We know the name was Lucifer and changed to Satan who is the devil became the serpent same character same same evil and tag and us throughout the story and why doesn't God just eliminate this Darth Vader character from the beginning no permission to go to a mission to go to I think there are some granted that let's go to. This is just so reading it from the word chapter 14 as a 14 and verse 12 verse 12. And says how you are fallen from heaven or Lucifer son of the morning with mention his name how you were cut down to the ground you who weaken the nations for you have said in your heart this is what happened was something that was not visible to everyone but God reads the heart God is able to see what's happening in the heart of the angels who are serving him and so Lucifer starts saying something in his heart that the other can see says I will ascend into heaven I will exult my throne above the stars of God and he continues with this I language we talked about in previous episodes specifically in Revelation Chapter 45 when when the angels in heaven the scene of the throne room of God when worship is happening it's all about God You know it's you are were the you you created and it's you you've redeemed but then here you have this. In Congress and dissonant sentiment and if you specially contrast that with the image that we had of what worship looked like in heaven to have a Being there who instead of praising God is saying I instead of saying all while you you are seated high and mighty he says I want to be seated higher and this see that develops in his heart is what the world says it happened in his heart nobody else could see that was happening so now you imagine God saying all. I see something happening in Lucifer's heart. Be gone. And then this was gone he had every right to do it I mean God had every right to destroy her he is God He has created all things he is all powerful but God is also love and love requires freedom freedom of choice and so if God would have destroyed Lucifer because the other angels could not see into the heart of Satan they would have destroyed him these other beings they would have not worship God based on love but based on fear because like oh maybe the lies or new things that Lucifer was saying were true because he is going to understand these angels these other beings have never heard a lie in their life before everything is always truthful suddenly there's this guy lying and saying things about God and exalting self. And so if God were to destroy them you know them would have been doubt in their hearts and their worship and their obedience and their their you know their focus on God would have been based on fear and not on love and heaven is divided into 2 not 5050 but 2 thirds and one 3rd to 2 this one 3rd follows this I germ as you go smashing smashing here in terms here and what happens after that. What happens after that in the narrative after so they're cast so the heavens are divided and then Yet Heaven is divided. There cast out these these are cast out well I will says a. Revelation that supports what verse 4 OK I'm going a Job Chapter one here oh I'm going to show chapter one so let's go to church after one and. They're what's happening Oh I see what you're doing now chapter one there is a there's this this is almost like a heavenly council or Congress in the talks about God's sons his children and we assume you know that they're coming from perhaps different places in the universe right they're gathering themselves together in verse 6 it says there's a day when the sons of God came together to present themselves before the Lord see also comes among them and he comes from the earth and he essentially says in verse 7. I'm coming representing the earth I walk up and down the earth belongs to me so I'm coming representing the earth in this in this Congress meeting So it's he's cast out as are cast out indeed the earth in the deception of Adam and Eve He's now claiming it is his possession so it's interesting they've been cast out of heaven. But Lucifer seems to have access back and forth like this this freedom element that you guys were talking about does kind of preoccupied thinking about in my mind. It persisted to the point where Lucifer was able to go back and at least represent himself for God Perhaps I have exchanges with the other angels and things like that but eventually comes to so I mean any of the 8 that Apple has and. Or durian what. They're getting this thing and then this was this wasn't a matter of a petty rule that God was mad that you disobeyed me so be gone they actually voted to have Satan be their representative this is this is political science going on the changing sides languages in the book of Genesis that God gave mankind Dominion he gave them rulership they were to be in charge of the earth what essentially they did is they said well we want to serve this guy we're going to obey him all the thought of who would come back when to see what their what their argumentation is to get to the other side will be back after the break. Has impressed been a blessing to you Do you have questions comments or feedback you'd like to leave us find us on social media by searching. On Facebook Twitter Instagram for you to while there join us like us comes up next our handle again is in 1st Bible no spaces now back to the discussion. They were in Revelation 12 and we're looking at the main and tagging nest in this great met a narrative of this cosmic conflict that being Satan Lucifer for the devil there's many names for him but this is a character that actually exists yes and he's got a particularly set of arguments to jurors talking about yeah well I was just saying that he claims ownership of this earth but actually Jesus acknowledges that multiple times in the book of John working 1st to him as being the prince of this world right so he deceived Adam and Eve God gave me a need to minion he comes along and deceives them essentially Cleave dominion of this earth he is in charge. And I want to speak to Jesus acknowledging the Devils existence I think I mean today even in Christian circles there are some people who doubt that an actual being who is the devil. But that what the Bible is saying is that the devil actually exists as a being who was created and fell from the glory that God has created him in Jesus says I saw Satan cast down from heaven he's referencing A Well John I guess the nation tall 7 is referencing Jesus just Michael and his angels watch and the dragon and if the angels fought they didn't prevail their place was then found and the dragon was cast out so when Jesus is saying that he is talking about. What is a historical event for him because he was there when it happened he was there like in that fight that was happening and I saw the Devil being cast out from heaven and so the doubt that exists in in the world and scarily nothing Christianity that the devil exists actually it does a disservice to the Word of God and He puts us in a dangerous position because if he is out to get God's people but we don't even believe he exists then how are we going to be prepared to meet the challenges that he's going to bring this enemy has I mean this is this is a unique enemy it can play on God's field and it can play on a field that the universe has never seen or I remember one time like you know and this is how scary that human nature can be like I remember I was I was with some with both our youth group and I was the new youth leader and they're going to throw me into the lake to inaugurate me. To baptize me it was not real baptism but it's you know whatever and so here they are and I am a scrawny shrimp be you know Asian guy and in these days or Jonathan Wall turret you know muscular more muscular to him Come come come one on each limb and at that point I was like look I have no power within me right I can't do I am and I totally surrendered to this fact but there was all these people on the beach watching me and my pride was hurt I mean I'm confessing my sins you so this is how evil human nature is like look I'm not going down I'm going down but I don't want to go down by myself and I want to go down with someone with me so my pride all was well got focused on my hand right this hand got to supernatural strength and and I held on to the T. shirt of the kid next to me you know so as with the momentum of stringing me into the water my all my dignity all my pride in the cities and myself and I'm bringing this poor kid who's just wanting to. Say hello to me and I pull this kid down into the water with me and I made sure that he goes into the water 1st and then I on the water so here we are we come out of the water we give each other a baptism service you know it's all going right but that just shows that human beings are that evil and look at their judgment because I don't know if we all have. Ever done but. How much more Satan and Satan as especially when he knows he's going to lose he can't get a Jesus Jesus is all powerful I mean he's but who wears his wrath you noticed you know and that is really interesting because right there in Genesis you know God says I will put enmity between you and him there will be a distinction here and so Satan is angry he knows he has lost I mean at the cross it was crystal clear there was no return for him there's no no coming back this is it and so he is now a defeated enemy and as he said he's going to take down as many as possible with him and so his his fury now is not just against Christ but he wants to hurt God by hurting God's people and so says you know he's trying to of course destroy Christ and then his wrath goes towards God's people and you see that in. Verse 13 that's when the dragon saw that he'd been cast of the earth he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child so that his wrath against God's people is to bring verse 14 the woman is given 2 wings of a great eagle fly fly into the wilderness to her place where she is nursed for a time times and a half a time from the presence of a serpent that's prophetic language 1260 years verse 15 so the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman that he may cause her to be carried away by the flood but the earth helped the woman and the earth opened its mouth swallowed up the flood which the mount with the dragon had spewed out of the out of his mouth and the dragon was enraged and that's what this wrath and talking about he went. To make war with the rest of her offspring who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus so his special enemy is this remnant group who has always existed in earth's history not always a particularly denominations sometimes a denomination but they have these 2 characteristics of 1st 17 they keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus can you explain what these 2 call for patients are and give us some clues on this remnant sure yet if I could just say beforehand those are like thinking in terms of what a remnant is I believe or not I have a sewing machine OK I do make some of my own life backpacking here and some of that stuff just so sometimes like it mind in the midst of Iraq the fight of what you actually lose are so innocent I don't know I don't make dresses and this is you know I've actually taken my homemade gear and hung down into subzero temperatures in hammocks with goose down anyway whatever. I see I save scraps of fabric because you never know you might need to make a little stuff or something like that or fix a piece of gear so you can go to the fabric store and you can get remnants and I'll buy a big piece of fabric and I'll save my own little remnants a ribbon it is a little piece of the much bigger original piece and so when Revelation is talking about the remnant it's calling you back to essentially faithful people throughout time throughout all the Old Testament when Israel was in apostasy God refers to a rim that would remain faithful group of people they were worshipping idols they were holding fast to truth even though it came at an immense cost and persecution even from their fellow countrymen so when we're talking about a remnant we're looking at the original piece or the faithful people who have it here it is you said to God's Commandments and the faith of Jesus throughout time. Yeah well you know. See here they keep from God They have a testimony of Jesus as He said they're faithful and this is not just individuals who are like all right I'm going to keep all the commandments this is not the legalism going on here and in fact when you look at verse 11 it says these individuals they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb by the word of their testimony and they did not love their lives to death only to point out I think a legal list will not love God to his death and if you have a you know if you have experience with God that you know you have a testimony you can overcome any any attack of the devil knowing that you have a relationship with God and that becomes your testimony as you overcome and even if you have defeated you know with your 1st death brings us back again to Revelation you know the 7 churches where Jesus saying you know you might be persecuted you might die it's OK it's just 1st death is asleep you wake up again at the resurrection and I decided to he brought up this relationship thing and. I want to hunt back to what John said Actually prior to verse 17. It's that these people have a relationship with Jesus and so they're willing to give their lives to remain faithful to him. But the point that I just wanted to emphasize I guess is it's not just that they have a relationship with God But God has a relationship with and these are his special people and so you know when we see injustice when we see you know sometimes like why do righteous people suffer you know why is it that you know people who are trying to live right in to the right thing who go to a job story you know didn't do anything wrong why have they got Why do they get caught up in all of this mess in the back story is that not just do they have a relationship with God and they want to be faithful to him but because God has a relationship with them the devil knows the way that he can hurt is to hurt his people you know and as a mother if when when my child is sick you know just the other day my son was throwing up and just went all over my clothes and all over the floor and the 1st. The 1st thought that came to my mind wasn't. The 1st thought that came to my mind was My poor child you know and for God when He sees us suffering he's not he's he's not he's a his primary concern is his people you know his children and the devil knows that that's how he can get to God and so he takes out his wrath against these people who are faithful to God because of the relationship that they have with God and the love that God has with them Johnson who who is this remnant I mean how how can we find out more about this well it says here then to those who keep the commandments of God and they're the testament of Jesus Christ later on Revelation 19 returned in search of the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy so this is a group of people that live in the last days and we believe we are living the last days and these individuals are characterized by keeping the commandments not all of the Commandments that's not just won or 5 or 9 that's all of it it's a complete surrender of my life to God I love God I want to be for. Fal in harmony with him and these individuals these group of people there's also a manifestation of the gift of prophecy so if you look at you know the churches around the world today Christians around the world there are many sincere Christians everywhere but God is calling up a special group of people to be his faithful witness to to do something we're going to study in Revelation Chapter 14 going to go into detail if they are but they have they're identified here with these characteristics they are faithful to God by keeping all of course God's commandments including the Sabbath commandment and the spirit of prophecy there is a revelation of the prophetic gift amongst these people and for me I have looked to and fro and I've only found one group of people and one movement of Christians and that is the 7th Day Adventist Church. So there are other nominations out there and maybe even the Jewish people who keep all the 10 Commandments but they may not have the Spirit of Prophecy and there's other denominations out there who may have some semblance of a prophetic element to them but they don't keep all the 10 Commandments so it's the this this is a kind of a 2 anchors kind of define who the remnant is yeah I think it's an important distinction to make just like God called Israel the book of Deuteronomy he said I didn't call you because you were so great I didn't call you because you were so awesome and they haven't always been that obedient you can look at their history but he called them essentially to receive him to surrender to him so that through them he might be a light to the world so we're talking about remnant we're not talking about a status of. A Marine we're not going to read any of those things it's a position of privilege and if anything people who are identified is this kind of bastion of of hopefully fidelity and surrender to God there's a higher standard that they're held to so they have a special call a special responsibility in these last days with the keeping of the 10 Commandments and with the gift of prophecy to proclaim. To the whole world and so Satan has a special special hatred for this group and the question is this I mean yes we have God on our side and what we have Satan who's against us and what us what is one key weapon that Scripture gives us how do we fight against this entity and we find this verse this is the special weapon and verse 11 they overcame by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of his testimony and so I want to praise you guys all out there that if you please find it in your in your spiritual walk find that group of people who keep the 10 Commandments and who have the gift of prophecy and with their mouths have a testimony of the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ That's our prayer as we try every day to to be like Jesus by God's grace hopefully us your prayers Well God bless you we'll see you next week here in a verse. You've been listening to N.P.R. 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